Re: [Mikrotik] Regarding cookies not working (Was RB433AH 3.31)

2010-05-23 Thread Stuart Pierce 

This is a new RB, so I uploaded a backup and restored like I always do and 
fixed the ip's and interfaces. What I didn't do was set the time, so I am 
thinking that is what is causing my cookies to be lost.

Time will tell..

-- Original Message --
From: Josh Luthman 
Reply-To: Mikrotik discussions 
Date:  Thu, 20 May 2010 13:17:40 -0400

>Every product is like that.  It's made by humans.  It doesn't get fixed by
>just yelling at the Routerboard - it gets fixed by contacting
>supp...@mikrotik.com.
>
>Mikrotik is especially worse, I'll admit.  Anyone else beta test the 3.22
>that locked up your x86 machines?!  No way did they test that "stable"
>version at the least bit.
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>On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Ralph  wrote:
>
>> Yeah, that's right Josh.
>> Something simple that is now mysteriously broken.
>> I forgot that we can't expect things that work, to continue to and we are
>> the beta testers.
>>
>> Stuart-  I found one system still out there on 3.30 but it has no users. We
>> enhanced another tower nearby with UBNT access points and the users appear
>> to have switched to that one.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com
>> [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 12:45 AM
>> To: Mikrotik discussions
>> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Regarding cookies not working (Was RB433AH 3.31)
>>
>> The two of you experiencing this problem haven't sent in a report to
>> Mikrotik and you're complaining it isn't fixed?
>>
>> I helped Mikrotik with an Xbox upnp bug..they had it fixed in days.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
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>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
>> that counts."
>> --- Winston Churchill
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Ralph  wrote:
>>
>> > YES YES YES.
>> >
>> > I thought it was just us.
>> > We are 100% Hotspot driven in all our marinas and Muni wireless systems
>> and
>> > the cookies have not worked properly for a long time.
>> > Most of them are now on 4.x, but I may not have remembered seeing them
>> work
>> > since 2.x something or other.
>> > The cookies get generated but logins don't seem to happen by them.
>> > It has been frustrating for all.
>> >
>> > If you turn something up, please let us know.
>> > I should also submit a bug report, I guess.
>> > I'm also going to see if we have a pre 3.31 system still around.
>> >
>> > Ralph
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com
>> > [mailto:mikrotik-boun...@mail.butchevans.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Pierce
>> > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 12:41 PM
>> > To: Mikrotik discussions
>> > Subject: [Mikrotik] RB433AH 3.31
>> >
>> > Has anyone noticed cookies being removed for some unknown reason in
>> hotspot
>> > operation ? This is the only one I have in 3.31, so maybe 3.31 is the
>> > problem.
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Re: [Mikrotik] Bandwidth shaping an unknown/variable amount of bandwidth

2010-05-23 Thread Robert Andrews 
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So far I haven't been able to find out the turbine maker, but there are
wind turbines on the South polar ice cap, so there should be a way to
power the repeaters.So I would think it's now more about the locations.

On 05/23/2010 10:39 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
> That's an understatement.  With solar down here in North California, the
> maximum time we have "no sun" is measured in a few dozen hours.
> 
> Up there, it would be measured in months.  It's not at the arctic
> circle, but it's darn close.
> 
> So you have a couple of extremes: several months with no sun, and cold
> that is almost impossible to describe.  I know that Fairbanks, just a
> couple hundred miles north has had lows in the territory of -75F.
> 
> That is daunting.
> 
> bp
> 
> 
> On 5/23/2010 9:13 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>> Solar is going to require batteries due to the extreme nights, too.
>>
>> On 5/23/10, Robert Andrews  wrote:
>>   
> Can you keep a wind generator working in that environment?
> 
> On 05/23/2010 08:51 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
> 
> There really aren't "trees" that you would worry about in that part of
> the world.  Permafrost prevents most conventional trees from growing at
> all.
>
> The biggest problem might just be the extreme cold.
>
> bp
>
>
> On 5/22/2010 11:41 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
>   
>> tower tall enough to get over the trees
>>  
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Re: [Mikrotik] Bandwidth shaping an unknown/variable amount of bandwidth

2010-05-23 Thread Robert Andrews 
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I'm thinking that part of the power of a wind generator/ battery would
go back to keeping parts above the bottom temp of the circuitry...

Robert

On 05/23/2010 10:39 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
> That's an understatement.  With solar down here in North California, the
> maximum time we have "no sun" is measured in a few dozen hours.
> 
> Up there, it would be measured in months.  It's not at the arctic
> circle, but it's darn close.
> 
> So you have a couple of extremes: several months with no sun, and cold
> that is almost impossible to describe.  I know that Fairbanks, just a
> couple hundred miles north has had lows in the territory of -75F.
> 
> That is daunting.
> 
> bp
> 
> 
> On 5/23/2010 9:13 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>> Solar is going to require batteries due to the extreme nights, too.
>>
>> On 5/23/10, Robert Andrews  wrote:
>>   
> Can you keep a wind generator working in that environment?
> 
> On 05/23/2010 08:51 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
> 
> There really aren't "trees" that you would worry about in that part of
> the world.  Permafrost prevents most conventional trees from growing at
> all.
>
> The biggest problem might just be the extreme cold.
>
> bp
>
>
> On 5/22/2010 11:41 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
>   
>> tower tall enough to get over the trees
>>  
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Re: [Mikrotik] Bandwidth shaping an unknown/variable amount of bandwidth

2010-05-23 Thread Bill Prince 
That's an understatement.  With solar down here in North California, the 
maximum time we have "no sun" is measured in a few dozen hours.


Up there, it would be measured in months.  It's not at the arctic 
circle, but it's darn close.


So you have a couple of extremes: several months with no sun, and cold 
that is almost impossible to describe.  I know that Fairbanks, just a 
couple hundred miles north has had lows in the territory of -75F.


That is daunting.

bp


On 5/23/2010 9:13 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Solar is going to require batteries due to the extreme nights, too.

On 5/23/10, Robert Andrews  wrote:
   

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Can you keep a wind generator working in that environment?

On 05/23/2010 08:51 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
 

There really aren't "trees" that you would worry about in that part of
the world.  Permafrost prevents most conventional trees from growing at
all.

The biggest problem might just be the extreme cold.

bp


On 5/22/2010 11:41 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
   

tower tall enough to get over the trees
 

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Re: [Mikrotik] Bandwidth shaping an unknown/variable amount of bandwidth

2010-05-23 Thread Bill Prince 

That's a darn good question.  I'm thinking it would be very "challenging"..

bp


On 5/23/2010 9:06 AM, Robert Andrews wrote:

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Can you keep a wind generator working in that environment?

On 05/23/2010 08:51 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
   

There really aren't "trees" that you would worry about in that part of
the world.  Permafrost prevents most conventional trees from growing at
all.

The biggest problem might just be the extreme cold.

bp


On 5/22/2010 11:41 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
 

tower tall enough to get over the trees
   

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Re: [Mikrotik] Bandwidth shaping an unknown/variable amount of bandwidth

2010-05-23 Thread Robert Andrews 
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I figured that you couldn't do solar, due to the low sun angle for 1-2
months.   That's a LOT of battery.   Am I mistaken?

I'm noodling on the idea of a building or other smallish structure with
a integral wind turbine to reduce the likelihood of damage...


On 05/23/2010 09:13 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> Solar is going to require batteries due to the extreme nights, too.
> 
> On 5/23/10, Robert Andrews  wrote:
> Can you keep a wind generator working in that environment?
> 
> On 05/23/2010 08:51 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
 There really aren't "trees" that you would worry about in that part of
 the world.  Permafrost prevents most conventional trees from growing at
 all.

 The biggest problem might just be the extreme cold.

 bp


 On 5/22/2010 11:41 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
> tower tall enough to get over the trees
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Re: [Mikrotik] Bandwidth shaping an unknown/variable amount of bandwidth

2010-05-23 Thread Josh Luthman 
Solar is going to require batteries due to the extreme nights, too.

On 5/23/10, Robert Andrews  wrote:
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> Can you keep a wind generator working in that environment?
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> On 05/23/2010 08:51 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>> There really aren't "trees" that you would worry about in that part of
>> the world.  Permafrost prevents most conventional trees from growing at
>> all.
>>
>> The biggest problem might just be the extreme cold.
>>
>> bp
>>
>>
>> On 5/22/2010 11:41 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
>>> tower tall enough to get over the trees
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Re: [Mikrotik] Bandwidth shaping an unknown/variable amount of bandwidth

2010-05-23 Thread Robert Andrews 
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Can you keep a wind generator working in that environment?

On 05/23/2010 08:51 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
> There really aren't "trees" that you would worry about in that part of
> the world.  Permafrost prevents most conventional trees from growing at
> all.
> 
> The biggest problem might just be the extreme cold.
> 
> bp
> 
> 
> On 5/22/2010 11:41 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
>> tower tall enough to get over the trees
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Re: [Mikrotik] Bandwidth shaping an unknown/variable amount of bandwidth

2010-05-23 Thread Bill Prince 
There really aren't "trees" that you would worry about in that part of 
the world.  Permafrost prevents most conventional trees from growing at all.


The biggest problem might just be the extreme cold.

bp


On 5/22/2010 11:41 PM, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:

tower tall enough to get over the trees

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