Re: [Mikrotik] Laptop - Printer Issue
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008, Mike Hammett wrote: To further explain the picture. There is an wifi AP in the MT CPE at the house. There is a High Gain CPE on their shed, cable inside to a standard wifi AP. There's no need to further explain. I've already told you the problem is the bridge. So I'd have to setup the MT AP to do WDS and then put the High Gain CPE into WDS mode? If you want to bridge, the bridge must be a true bridge. You cannot build a bridge with standard 802.11x. That is what WDS is. WDS, unlike 802.11x, is not a standard, therefore, the WDS implementation in the high gain may or may not be compatible with Mikrotik's implementation. I can't tell you exactly how to fix it...just where the problem lies. -- *Butch Evans*Professional Network Consultation * *Network Engineering*MikroTik RouterOS * *573-276-2879 *ImageStream * *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE * *http://blog.butchevans.com/*Wired or wireless Networks* *Mikrotik Certified Consultant *Professional Technical Trainer*
Re: [Mikrotik] Laptop - Printer Issue
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008, Mike Hammett wrote: I will certainly try that, but since the Mikrotik AP can ping everyone and the laptop can ping everyone BUT the printer, including other things behind the High Gain CPE... This is the way 802.11 bridges work (or don't work). If you could cause the printer to send traffic beyond the bridge, it, too, would work for some time. -- *Butch Evans*Professional Network Consultation * *Network Engineering*MikroTik RouterOS * *573-276-2879 *ImageStream * *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE * *http://blog.butchevans.com/*Wired or wireless Networks* *Mikrotik Certified Consultant *Professional Technical Trainer*
Re: [Mikrotik] Laptop - Printer Issue
I will certainly try that, but since the Mikrotik AP can ping everyone and the laptop can ping everyone BUT the printer, including other things behind the High Gain CPE... Will report back. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Josh Luthman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 4:36 PM To: "Mikrotik discussions" Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Laptop - Printer Issue Then as Butch said it is not in WDS or bridge mode. I would suggest doing this to make your life easier! On 9/24/08, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sorry, mistake in there... early in the morning. It had the same MAC address as the wireless device above it. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 6:35 AM To: "Mikrotik discussions" Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Laptop - Printer Issue I can't reconfirm that now because the printer is off, but it was showing up in the MT's arp table yesterday. It had the same MAC address as the wireless CPE over there. The laptop could print to that printer before. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Josh Luthman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:38 PM To: "Mikrotik discussions" Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Laptop - Printer Issue Firewall on the printer? Can you see arp for the device? /ip arp pr On 9/23/08, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't know the degree of the problem before, but I had to replace a customer's CPE today. This CPE also has a wireless AP in it. It has 3.14 loaded. The printer was wirelessly connected to the CPE (comm tower in the drawing). It had poor signal, so I moved it to the SSID of the AP in the shed. The tower has a bridge with eth0 (nothing connected) and the wireless AP. The tower can ping everybody. The laptop can ping everybody but the printer itself. Ideas? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20080923/fbfa86f2/attachment.html -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: laptop - printer issue.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 23715 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20080923/fbfa86f2/attachment.pdf ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik
Re: [Mikrotik] Laptop - Printer Issue
Then as Butch said it is not in WDS or bridge mode. I would suggest doing this to make your life easier! On 9/24/08, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry, mistake in there... early in the morning. It had the same MAC > address as the wireless device above it. > > > -- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -- > From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 6:35 AM > To: "Mikrotik discussions" > Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Laptop - Printer Issue > >> I can't reconfirm that now because the printer is off, but it was showing >> up >> in the MT's arp table yesterday. It had the same MAC address as the >> wireless CPE over there. >> >> The laptop could print to that printer before. >> >> >> -- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> ------------------ >> From: "Josh Luthman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:38 PM >> To: "Mikrotik discussions" >> Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Laptop - Printer Issue >> >>> Firewall on the printer? >>> >>> Can you see arp for the device? >>> >>> /ip arp pr >>> >>> >>> >>> On 9/23/08, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> I don't know the degree of the problem before, but I had to replace a >>>> customer's CPE today. This CPE also has a wireless AP in it. It has >>>> 3.14 >>>> loaded. >>>> >>>> The printer was wirelessly connected to the CPE (comm tower in the >>>> drawing). >>>> It had poor signal, so I moved it to the SSID of the AP in the shed. >>>> The >>>> tower has a bridge with eth0 (nothing connected) and the wireless AP. >>>> >>>> The tower can ping everybody. The laptop can ping everybody but the >>>> printer >>>> itself. >>>> >>>> Ideas? >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>> >>>> -- next part -- >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>> URL: >>>> http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20080923/fbfa86f2/attachment.html >>>> -- next part -- >>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>>> Name: laptop - printer issue.pdf >>>> Type: application/pdf >>>> Size: 23715 bytes >>>> Desc: not available >>>> Url : >>>> http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20080923/fbfa86f2/attachment.pdf >>>> ___ >>>> Mikrotik mailing list >>>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. >>> --- Henry Spencer >>> ___ >>> Mikrotik mailing list >>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>> >> ___ >> Mikrotik mailing list >> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >> > ___ > Mikrotik mailing list > Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer
Re: [Mikrotik] Laptop - Printer Issue
To further explain the picture. There is an wifi AP in the MT CPE at the house. There is a High Gain CPE on their shed, cable inside to a standard wifi AP. So I'd have to setup the MT AP to do WDS and then put the High Gain CPE into WDS mode? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Butch Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:40 AM To: "Mikrotik discussions" Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Laptop - Printer Issue On Wed, 24 Sep 2008, Mike Hammett wrote: I can't reconfirm that now because the printer is off, but it was showing up in the MT's arp table yesterday. It had the same MAC address as the wireless CPE over there. Having the same MAC as the cpe means the cpe is not a true bridge. If you want a bridge, you have to have a true bridge. Use WDS or other bridging technology besides a "pseudo bridge" and it will work. -- *Butch Evans *Professional Network Consultation * *Network Engineering *MikroTik RouterOS* *573-276-2879 *ImageStream * *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE * *http://blog.butchevans.com/*Wired or wireless Networks* *Mikrotik Certified Consultant *Professional Technical Trainer* ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik
Re: [Mikrotik] Laptop - Printer Issue
Sorry, mistake in there... early in the morning. It had the same MAC address as the wireless device above it. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 6:35 AM To: "Mikrotik discussions" Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Laptop - Printer Issue I can't reconfirm that now because the printer is off, but it was showing up in the MT's arp table yesterday. It had the same MAC address as the wireless CPE over there. The laptop could print to that printer before. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Josh Luthman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:38 PM To: "Mikrotik discussions" Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Laptop - Printer Issue Firewall on the printer? Can you see arp for the device? /ip arp pr On 9/23/08, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't know the degree of the problem before, but I had to replace a customer's CPE today. This CPE also has a wireless AP in it. It has 3.14 loaded. The printer was wirelessly connected to the CPE (comm tower in the drawing). It had poor signal, so I moved it to the SSID of the AP in the shed. The tower has a bridge with eth0 (nothing connected) and the wireless AP. The tower can ping everybody. The laptop can ping everybody but the printer itself. Ideas? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20080923/fbfa86f2/attachment.html -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: laptop - printer issue.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 23715 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20080923/fbfa86f2/attachment.pdf ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik
Re: [Mikrotik] Laptop - Printer Issue
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008, Mike Hammett wrote: I can't reconfirm that now because the printer is off, but it was showing up in the MT's arp table yesterday. It had the same MAC address as the wireless CPE over there. Having the same MAC as the cpe means the cpe is not a true bridge. If you want a bridge, you have to have a true bridge. Use WDS or other bridging technology besides a "pseudo bridge" and it will work. -- *Butch Evans*Professional Network Consultation * *Network Engineering*MikroTik RouterOS * *573-276-2879 *ImageStream * *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE * *http://blog.butchevans.com/*Wired or wireless Networks* *Mikrotik Certified Consultant *Professional Technical Trainer*
Re: [Mikrotik] Laptop - Printer Issue
Well as it is wireless you could look at the reg table to see if it connected and arp or DHCP to verify it is connected. Once the printer and laptop are on see if the laptop gets arp from the printer. I am assuming they're on the same collison domain/network. On 9/24/08, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can't reconfirm that now because the printer is off, but it was showing up > in the MT's arp table yesterday. It had the same MAC address as the > wireless CPE over there. > > The laptop could print to that printer before. > > > -- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -- > From: "Josh Luthman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:38 PM > To: "Mikrotik discussions" > Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Laptop - Printer Issue > >> Firewall on the printer? >> >> Can you see arp for the device? >> >> /ip arp pr >> >> >> >> On 9/23/08, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I don't know the degree of the problem before, but I had to replace a >>> customer's CPE today. This CPE also has a wireless AP in it. It has >>> 3.14 >>> loaded. >>> >>> The printer was wirelessly connected to the CPE (comm tower in the >>> drawing). >>> It had poor signal, so I moved it to the SSID of the AP in the shed. >>> The >>> tower has a bridge with eth0 (nothing connected) and the wireless AP. >>> >>> The tower can ping everybody. The laptop can ping everybody but the >>> printer >>> itself. >>> >>> Ideas? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> -- next part -- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: >>> http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20080923/fbfa86f2/attachment.html >>> -- next part -- >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>> Name: laptop - printer issue.pdf >>> Type: application/pdf >>> Size: 23715 bytes >>> Desc: not available >>> Url : >>> http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20080923/fbfa86f2/attachment.pdf >>> ___ >>> Mikrotik mailing list >>> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >>> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >>> >> >> >> -- >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. >> --- Henry Spencer >> ___ >> Mikrotik mailing list >> Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com >> http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik >> > ___ > Mikrotik mailing list > Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer
Re: [Mikrotik] Laptop - Printer Issue
I can't reconfirm that now because the printer is off, but it was showing up in the MT's arp table yesterday. It had the same MAC address as the wireless CPE over there. The laptop could print to that printer before. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: "Josh Luthman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 8:38 PM To: "Mikrotik discussions" Subject: Re: [Mikrotik] Laptop - Printer Issue Firewall on the printer? Can you see arp for the device? /ip arp pr On 9/23/08, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't know the degree of the problem before, but I had to replace a customer's CPE today. This CPE also has a wireless AP in it. It has 3.14 loaded. The printer was wirelessly connected to the CPE (comm tower in the drawing). It had poor signal, so I moved it to the SSID of the AP in the shed. The tower has a bridge with eth0 (nothing connected) and the wireless AP. The tower can ping everybody. The laptop can ping everybody but the printer itself. Ideas? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20080923/fbfa86f2/attachment.html -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: laptop - printer issue.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 23715 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20080923/fbfa86f2/attachment.pdf ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer ___ Mikrotik mailing list Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik
Re: [Mikrotik] Laptop - Printer Issue
Firewall on the printer? Can you see arp for the device? /ip arp pr On 9/23/08, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know the degree of the problem before, but I had to replace a > customer's CPE today. This CPE also has a wireless AP in it. It has 3.14 > loaded. > > The printer was wirelessly connected to the CPE (comm tower in the drawing). > It had poor signal, so I moved it to the SSID of the AP in the shed. The > tower has a bridge with eth0 (nothing connected) and the wireless AP. > > The tower can ping everybody. The laptop can ping everybody but the printer > itself. > > Ideas? > > > -- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20080923/fbfa86f2/attachment.html > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: laptop - printer issue.pdf > Type: application/pdf > Size: 23715 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : > http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20080923/fbfa86f2/attachment.pdf > ___ > Mikrotik mailing list > Mikrotik@mail.butchevans.com > http://www.butchevans.com/mailman/listinfo/mikrotik > -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer
[Mikrotik] Laptop - Printer Issue
I don't know the degree of the problem before, but I had to replace a customer's CPE today. This CPE also has a wireless AP in it. It has 3.14 loaded. The printer was wirelessly connected to the CPE (comm tower in the drawing). It had poor signal, so I moved it to the SSID of the AP in the shed. The tower has a bridge with eth0 (nothing connected) and the wireless AP. The tower can ping everybody. The laptop can ping everybody but the printer itself. Ideas? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20080923/fbfa86f2/attachment.html -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: laptop - printer issue.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 23715 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.butchevans.com/pipermail/mikrotik/attachments/20080923/fbfa86f2/attachment.pdf
