Re: [Mikrotik Users] Two routers without double nat

[David Milholen via Mikrotik-users]

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On 2/11/2017 5:01 PM, OWS Optimum Wireless via Mikrotik-users wrote:

Thanks for replying.

I did just that, moved the queue to the inside router and currently 
testing if any improvement.


The problem happens at around 8pm, so lets see how it goes.

Thanks.

On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Scott Reed 
mailto:sc...@sbrconsulting-llc.com>> wrote:


50% isn't bad.  I would think filling up queues or something
similar is a likely cause.

To answer your questions you shouldn't have to do anything other
than move the queues, etc. to the inside router.  Give it an
address out of a /30 and the edge router the other address from
the /30 and just let them route.  No NAT needed on the inside unit.

You might also consider moving the DNS to a real DNS server.  You
may be running low on memory because of he DNS cache.

If you need help with the router configurations, hit me off-list.


On 2/10/2017 9:01 PM, OWS Optimum Wireless via Mikrotik-users wrote:

Hello.

I'm trying to improve performance on our network, I have a RB3011
with about 370 clients doing queue, balancing two 100M lines,
NAT, DNS, among other things. At around 8pm to 10:30pm I've had
customer complaining about "slow internet". CPU on this device
has gone up to a little over 50% and I think is time to do
something before is too late.

I have another RB3011 which I would like to use to help out the
other. I want to leave in the current unit balancing the internet
and have the new one do queue, firewall, and other stuff.

Now, I don't want to double nat. How can I do it? or can you
please guide me to where I can have an idea on how to do it.

This is basically what I'm trying to accomplish:

WAN ---> RB3011 (172.16.0.1, balancer) > RB3011 (queue and
stuff) > LAN (172.16.0.0/16 )

Thanks in advanced for your time and help.




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Re: [Mikrotik Users] Two routers without double nat

[OWS Optimum Wireless via Mikrotik-users]

Thanks for replying.

I did just that, moved the queue to the inside router and currently testing
if any improvement.

The problem happens at around 8pm, so lets see how it goes.

Thanks.

On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Scott Reed 
wrote:

> 50% isn't bad.  I would think filling up queues or something similar is a
> likely cause.
>
> To answer your questions you shouldn't have to do anything other than move
> the queues, etc. to the inside router.  Give it an address out of a /30 and
> the edge router the other address from the /30 and just let them route.  No
> NAT needed on the inside unit.
>
> You might also consider moving the DNS to a real DNS server.  You may be
> running low on memory because of he DNS cache.
>
> If you need help with the router configurations, hit me off-list.
>
> On 2/10/2017 9:01 PM, OWS Optimum Wireless via Mikrotik-users wrote:
>
> Hello.
>
> I'm trying to improve performance on our network, I have a RB3011 with
> about 370 clients doing queue, balancing two 100M lines, NAT, DNS, among
> other things. At around 8pm to 10:30pm I've had customer complaining about
> "slow internet". CPU on this device has gone up to a little over 50% and I
> think is time to do something before is too late.
>
> I have another RB3011 which I would like to use to help out the other. I
> want to leave in the current unit balancing the internet and have the new
> one do queue, firewall, and other stuff.
>
> Now, I don't want to double nat. How can I do it? or can you please guide
> me to where I can have an idea on how to do it.
>
> This is basically what I'm trying to accomplish:
>
> WAN ---> RB3011 (172.16.0.1, balancer) > RB3011 (queue and stuff)
> > LAN (172.16.0.0/16)
>
> Thanks in advanced for your time and help.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Mikrotik Users] Two routers without double nat

[Scott Reed via Mikrotik-users]

50% isn't bad.  I would think filling up queues or something similar is 
a likely cause.


To answer your questions you shouldn't have to do anything other than 
move the queues, etc. to the inside router.  Give it an address out of a 
/30 and the edge router the other address from the /30 and just let them 
route.  No NAT needed on the inside unit.


You might also consider moving the DNS to a real DNS server.  You may be 
running low on memory because of he DNS cache.


If you need help with the router configurations, hit me off-list.


On 2/10/2017 9:01 PM, OWS Optimum Wireless via Mikrotik-users wrote:

Hello.

I'm trying to improve performance on our network, I have a RB3011 with 
about 370 clients doing queue, balancing two 100M lines, NAT, DNS, 
among other things. At around 8pm to 10:30pm I've had customer 
complaining about "slow internet". CPU on this device has gone up to a 
little over 50% and I think is time to do something before is too late.


I have another RB3011 which I would like to use to help out the other. 
I want to leave in the current unit balancing the internet and have 
the new one do queue, firewall, and other stuff.


Now, I don't want to double nat. How can I do it? or can you please 
guide me to where I can have an idea on how to do it.


This is basically what I'm trying to accomplish:

WAN ---> RB3011 (172.16.0.1, balancer) > RB3011 (queue and stuff) 
> LAN (172.16.0.0/16 )


Thanks in advanced for your time and help.




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Re: [Mikrotik Users] Two routers without double nat

[Mike Francis via Mikrotik-users]

You definitely do not need to double nat, just do straight routing. It sounds 
to me like things are not optimized and you're chewing up a lot of CPU for 
little to no reward. Are you using fastrack? Is your network just a giant 
bridge? There are several ways to improve things probably dramatically, we just 
need a little more info.

Thank you,
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On February 10, 2017 8:01:07 PM CST, OWS Optimum Wireless via Mikrotik-users 
 wrote:
>Hello.
>
>I'm trying to improve performance on our network, I have a RB3011 with
>about 370 clients doing queue, balancing two 100M lines, NAT, DNS,
>among
>other things. At around 8pm to 10:30pm I've had customer complaining
>about
>"slow internet". CPU on this device has gone up to a little over 50%
>and I
>think is time to do something before is too late.
>
>I have another RB3011 which I would like to use to help out the other.
>I
>want to leave in the current unit balancing the internet and have the
>new
>one do queue, firewall, and other stuff.
>
>Now, I don't want to double nat. How can I do it? or can you please
>guide
>me to where I can have an idea on how to do it.
>
>This is basically what I'm trying to accomplish:
>
>WAN ---> RB3011 (172.16.0.1, balancer) > RB3011 (queue and stuff)
>>
>LAN (172.16.0.0/16)
>
>Thanks in advanced for your time and help.
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[Mikrotik Users] Two routers without double nat

[OWS Optimum Wireless via Mikrotik-users]

Hello.

I'm trying to improve performance on our network, I have a RB3011 with
about 370 clients doing queue, balancing two 100M lines, NAT, DNS, among
other things. At around 8pm to 10:30pm I've had customer complaining about
"slow internet". CPU on this device has gone up to a little over 50% and I
think is time to do something before is too late.

I have another RB3011 which I would like to use to help out the other. I
want to leave in the current unit balancing the internet and have the new
one do queue, firewall, and other stuff.

Now, I don't want to double nat. How can I do it? or can you please guide
me to where I can have an idea on how to do it.

This is basically what I'm trying to accomplish:

WAN ---> RB3011 (172.16.0.1, balancer) > RB3011 (queue and stuff) >
LAN (172.16.0.0/16)

Thanks in advanced for your time and help.
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