Re: [Mimedefang] About to give up on mimedefang under RedhatLinux 9

2004-03-12 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
Here's the note I've posted and developed from numerous sources:

RedHat 8 and 9 Users Perl Requirement:
  With the recent patches to Perl 5.8.0, RH8 users are now having some of
the same Perl development issues that RH9 users have been having. Due to
this, please realize that most of these issues do have a work around. First,
UTF-8 support seems to cause most of the issues so if at all possible,
change the file /etc/sysconfig/i18n to LANG=en_US.
  Additionally, reports of using 'export LANG=en_US' or 'export LANG=C'
right before doing the 'perl Makefile.PL' have been reported to work. This
problem is well documented (for example, see
http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=87682).



  Regards,

  KAM

- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Pfister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> I seem to have UTF-8... here's my /etc/sysconfig/i18n:
>
> LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
> SUPPORTED="en_US.UTF-8:en_US:en"
> SYSFONT="latarcyrheb-sun16"
>
> What should I change it to?

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RE: [Mimedefang] About to give up on mimedefang under RedhatLinux 9

2004-03-12 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, Steve Pfister wrote:

> I seem to have UTF-8... here's my /etc/sysconfig/i18n:
>
> LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
> SUPPORTED="en_US.UTF-8:en_US:en"
> SYSFONT="latarcyrheb-sun16"
>
> What should I change it to?

LANG="C" will work.

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RE: [Mimedefang] About to give up on mimedefang under RedhatLinux 9

2004-03-12 Thread Steve Pfister
I seem to have UTF-8... here's my /etc/sysconfig/i18n:

LANG="en_US.UTF-8"
SUPPORTED="en_US.UTF-8:en_US:en"
SYSFONT="latarcyrheb-sun16"

What should I change it to?

Thanks,

--Steve

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Am Mi, den 10.03.2004 schrieb Jim Crippen um 21:48:
> Steve,
> 
> I haven't gone back through all the responses but I'd try to re-install perl
> from www.perl.org.  I have not had good luck with Redhat's base version of
> perl under 9.  I am running MD 2.39 just fine but I did install perl 5.8.2.
> 
> Jim Crippen

The Perl that comes with Redhat 9 and MimeDefang are running fine - as
long as you do not use UTF-8 locale.

So Steve, if you have in /etc/sysconfig/i18n UTF-8 locale settings
change to an ISO code.

Alexander


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Re: [Mimedefang] Estimate of maximum messages via MD

2004-03-12 Thread David F. Skoll
On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, G. Roderick Singleton wrote:

> I am involved with an OSS project that is in desperate need of a tool
> like MD. Traffic is heavy, say in the order of 100k messages per day.
> Does any one use MD to handle this load and what configuration is
> needed?

MD plus SpamAssassin on a dual-XEON 2.4GHz box with 2GB of memory can
handle around 250-300K messages/day.  We've actually benchmarked this
configuration at 25 messages/second (which works out to around 2 million/day),
but that was under "ideal lab conditions".

Regards,

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[Mimedefang] how to do perform spamassassin check for specific recipients

2004-03-12 Thread Martin J. Dellwo
I'm running MIMEDefang 2.40 and SpamAssassin 2.63.  For reasons I'd just 
as soon not waste bandwidth explaining, I'd like to perform SpamAssassin 
checks on mail containing two specific users as recipients (if others 
happen to be on the recipient list, it's ok).  Presumably I would modify 
 filter_end where SpamAssassin is already used in the example filter. 
How would I do this?  Presumably it involves the Recipients array... I'm 
guessing instead of
if ($Features{"SpamAssassin"}) {
I would have
if ($Features{"SpamAssassin"} &&  ) {

perhaps this works?

$doSA = 0
foreach $chkrecip (@Recipients) {
  if ( $chkrecip =~ /^?$/i ) {
 $doSA = 1
 last
   }
}
return if !($doSA)  # $doSA = 0, skip the rest of filter_end
if ($Features{"SpamAssassin"}) {
etc...
While I'm at it, I'd like to redirect mail to a single box if the SA 
score is above a certain level (I was thinking 12) so the user doesn't 
see it; also if the Recipients list contains certain blocked addresses, 
I'd like to add 1 to the score (but I already reject them in 
filter_recipient, so  are they gone from Recipients in filter_end??)
Perhaps something like this:

  foreach $chkrecip (@Recipients) {
++$hits if ( $chkrecip =~ /^?$/i
  }
This could be done after I've already done spam_assassin_check() and 
determined that $hits is not already > 12 or whatever my cutoff is for 
redirecting.

To redirect for $hits > some cutoff, would I do 
resend_message("highscoreuser");
but then what??  or would I replace all of @Recipients (how?)...

I'm not a real perl programmer, if that's not obvious from the above! ;)
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[Mimedefang] Estimate of maximum messages via MD

2004-03-12 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
I am involved with an OSS project that is in desperate need of a tool
like MD. Traffic is heavy, say in the order of 100k messages per day.
Does any one use MD to handle this load and what configuration is
needed?

Please reply directly and I will summarize to the list.

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often do; they may deprive of your liberty; but the CANNOT take from you
the privilege of using your imagination. In your imagination YOU ALWAYS
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Re: [Mimedefang] clamscan missing some virus's

2004-03-12 Thread Lucas Albers
Dirk Mueller said:
> Hmm, thats fairly old.
Then what is new? That is the latest debian release,
and latest production is .67.
>> clamscan --mbox --no-summary --infected ./
>
> can you try ENTIRE_MESSAGE only?
>
> is it possible that by the time the mail was scanned first time, your
> clamav
> signature database wasn't up to date? Or rather, by the time you manually
> check, that there was an update inbetween?
I considered that.
I can save the output from the previous virus scans to the msg.0 if it is
detected as a virus by fprot or mcafee.
This will give me more information for troubleshooting.

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Re: [Mimedefang] foreign characters in message body causing bizarre behavior

2004-03-12 Thread Thomas B. Butler
On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, David F. Skoll wrote:

> On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, Thomas B. Butler wrote:
>
> > We're testing MIMEDefang 2.40 with SpamAssassin 2.63 on Perl 5.8.1 on
> > Solaris 8.
>
> Perl's UTF-8 handling leaves much to be desired.  Make sure that
> mimedefang and mimedefang-multiplexor run in the "C" locale, and
> that should avoid the problem.
>

Ok, thanks for the tip.  We'll try that and see if it happens again.

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Re: [Mimedefang] foreign characters in message body causing bizarre behavior

2004-03-12 Thread Thomas B. Butler
On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, Jon R. Kibler wrote:

> "Thomas B. Butler" wrote:
> >
> > Solaris 8.
>
> > Sometimes (but not always) when we receive SPAM in foreign character sets
> > (maybe just Russian and Chinese?), the message contents get mixed in with
> > other lines from other messages.
>
> We have seen problems on older versions of Solaris where a spammer forges
> the Content-Length: header and this causes 2 mail messages to get intermingled
> when they are retrieved by some MUAs(mail, mailx, pine) and some POP versions.
> Don't recall having seen it on Solaris 8 and I know we haven't seen it on
> Solaris 9.
>
> Don't know if this could be related.

I am using Pine as my MUA.  I'll ask my coworker who's using exmh if he's
seeing the same problem.

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Re: [Mimedefang] MIMEDefang and AntiVirus Milter - Checked by Vexira DEMO version -

2004-03-12 Thread Kris Deugau
Chris Cameron wrote:
> Performance wise, would I be better off to run my AntiVirus through
> MIMEDefang, or to just use two milters?

That depends on how MD is able to call your antivirus program- it seems
that most can only be called as a command-line program, so running the
provided milter will probably speed things up a little.

However, by using the AV package's milter, you may not be able to
configure things as completely as you would with AV calls via
MIMEDefang.

-kgd
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Re: [Mimedefang] foreign characters in message body causing bizarre behavior

2004-03-12 Thread Jon R. Kibler
"Thomas B. Butler" wrote:
> 
> Solaris 8.  

> Sometimes (but not always) when we receive SPAM in foreign character sets
> (maybe just Russian and Chinese?), the message contents get mixed in with
> other lines from other messages.  

We have seen problems on older versions of Solaris where a spammer forges
the Content-Length: header and this causes 2 mail messages to get intermingled
when they are retrieved by some MUAs(mail, mailx, pine) and some POP versions. 
Don't recall having seen it on Solaris 8 and I know we haven't seen it on 
Solaris 9.

Don't know if this could be related.

Jon
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Re: [Mimedefang] foreign characters in message body causing bizarre behavior

2004-03-12 Thread David F. Skoll
On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, Thomas B. Butler wrote:

> We're testing MIMEDefang 2.40 with SpamAssassin 2.63 on Perl 5.8.1 on
> Solaris 8.

Perl's UTF-8 handling leaves much to be desired.  Make sure that
mimedefang and mimedefang-multiplexor run in the "C" locale, and
that should avoid the problem.

Regards,

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Re: [Mimedefang] Authentication warnings and "cannot write" errors

2004-03-12 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
> Your response makes the most sense.  I've added defang as a trusted user,
> restored group membership back to the way it was for user "defang", double
> checked the queue dirs, and reread sendmail.cf with a "killall -1
sendmail".
>
> I'll monitor this and see what happens.

You should also be able to enable this in sendmail with a line in your
sendmail.mc.

define(`confTRUSTED_USERS', `defang')dnl

Regards,
KAM

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[Mimedefang] foreign characters in message body causing bizarre behavior

2004-03-12 Thread Thomas B. Butler

Maybe someone on the list has some ideas because there is nothing in the
FAQs or the archives, as far as I can tell...

We're testing MIMEDefang 2.40 with SpamAssassin 2.63 on Perl 5.8.1 on
Solaris 8.  All of the other Perl dependencies are up to date, as far as I
know, including the special patched version of MIME::tools that the MD
folks recommend.  We're intending to put this into production next month,
if all testing goes well.  Problem is, we're running into a bit of a
show-stopper here:

Sometimes (but not always) when we receive SPAM in foreign character sets
(maybe just Russian and Chinese?), the message contents get mixed in with
other lines from other messages.  In other words, I'll receive a Chinese
spam that contains lines from other messages that were destined to
different email addresses than my own.  As you can imagine, this would be
a serious problem if it happened on our production mailserver.

We can't just block foreign character sets because we have lots of foreign
students.

Sorry I don't have any log output or any more detailed info.  I'll try to
dig something up the next time it happens.  Has anyone seen this, ever?

Thanks!
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Re: [Mimedefang] Authentication warnings and "cannot write" errors

2004-03-12 Thread Paul Whittney
I made a mistake. The feature should be added to the submit.mc
and not sendmail.mc (I think that makes sense).

Sorry about that.

-Paul Whittney

On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 09:32:38AM -0500, Paul Whittney wrote:
> I think this is where the sendmail trusted users comes in.
> May also depend on the logging options of your sendmail setup 
> 
> I've not tested this yet (but I'm getting there)...

[snip]
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RE: [Mimedefang] Authentication warnings and "cannot write" error s

2004-03-12 Thread Cormack, Ken
Paul -

Your response makes the most sense.  I've added defang as a trusted user,
restored group membership back to the way it was for user "defang", double
checked the queue dirs, and reread sendmail.cf with a "killall -1 sendmail".

I'll monitor this and see what happens.

KEN CORMACK, RHCE
Sr. UNIX Systems Analyst,
Open Systems Group
Sr. Software Analyst,
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reasons why it requires the sacrificing of a live chicken." - Unknown

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errors


I think this is where the sendmail trusted users comes in.
May also depend on the logging options of your sendmail setup 

I've not tested this yet (but I'm getting there)...

In the .mc file for your site add:
FEATURE(`use_ct_file')dnl  # trusted-users
(It may be in as default...)

Should result in the .cf containing:
Ft/etc/mail/trusted-users

Also, there should be lines:
Troot
Tdaemon

Then add the user that mimedefang is running as to /etc/mail/trusted-users
restart sendmail (or killall -HUP sendmail)

Anyone see any issues with this? Is this better than giving mimedefang any
additional privileges?

-Paul Whittney

On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 08:48:19AM -0500, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
> > Thanks for reminding me that the local submission queue is clientmqueue,
> and
> > not mqueue.
> > It's "native" perms were:
> >
> > drwxrwx---2 smmspsmmsp4096 Oct  3 12:09 clientmqueue
> >
> > I've made "defang" a member of group smmsp.  I'll monitor, to see if
that
> > clears the problem.
> 
> I've never had to do this but I might not have seen the issue.  DFS, any
> input if this should be a necessary step for all installations?
> 
> Regards,
> KAM
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RE: [Mimedefang] Authentication warnings and "cannot write" error s

2004-03-12 Thread Cormack, Ken
I'm now confused.  I just looked at my sendmail binary, and it is SETGID to
(Bsmmsp.  So theoretically, any process calling sendmail should behave as
(Bthough it were already group smmsp when it tries to write to the
(Bclientmqueue directory.
(B
(B
(B-Original Message-
(BFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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(BMcGrail
(BSent: Friday, March 12, 2004 8:48 AM
(BTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(BSubject: Re: [Mimedefang] Authentication warnings and "cannot write" errors
(B
(B
(B> Thanks for reminding me that the local submission queue is clientmqueue,
(Band
(B> not mqueue.
(B> It's "native" perms were:
(B>
(B> drwxrwx---2 smmspsmmsp4096 Oct  3 12:09 clientmqueue
(B>
(B> I've made "defang" a member of group smmsp.  I'll monitor, to see if that
(B> clears the problem.
(B
(BI've never had to do this but I might not have seen the issue.  DFS, any
(Binput if this should be a necessary step for all installations?
(B
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Re: [Mimedefang] Authentication warnings and "cannot write" errors

2004-03-12 Thread Paul Whittney
I think this is where the sendmail trusted users comes in.
May also depend on the logging options of your sendmail setup 

I've not tested this yet (but I'm getting there)...

In the .mc file for your site add:
FEATURE(`use_ct_file')dnl  # trusted-users
(It may be in as default...)

Should result in the .cf containing:
Ft/etc/mail/trusted-users

Also, there should be lines:
Troot
Tdaemon

Then add the user that mimedefang is running as to /etc/mail/trusted-users
restart sendmail (or killall -HUP sendmail)

Anyone see any issues with this? Is this better than giving mimedefang any
additional privileges?

-Paul Whittney

On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 08:48:19AM -0500, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:
> > Thanks for reminding me that the local submission queue is clientmqueue,
> and
> > not mqueue.
> > It's "native" perms were:
> >
> > drwxrwx---2 smmspsmmsp4096 Oct  3 12:09 clientmqueue
> >
> > I've made "defang" a member of group smmsp.  I'll monitor, to see if that
> > clears the problem.
> 
> I've never had to do this but I might not have seen the issue.  DFS, any
> input if this should be a necessary step for all installations?
> 
> Regards,
> KAM
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Re: [Mimedefang] Authentication warnings and "cannot write" errors

2004-03-12 Thread David F. Skoll
On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, Kevin A. McGrail wrote:

> I've never had to do this but I might not have seen the issue.  DFS, any
> input if this should be a necessary step for all installations?

No.  Sendmail should be installed sgid "smmsp":

$ ls -l /usr/sbin/sendmail
-rwxr-sr-x1 root smmsp  738752 Oct 28 16:06 /usr/sbin/sendmail

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[Mimedefang] 2.41?

2004-03-12 Thread Dirk Mueller

Hi, 

I'm wondering when a 2.41 will be around (or at least a beta with the fixes) 
since 2.40 has too many bugs and I'm not willing yet to go back to an old 
mimedefang version. 


Dirk
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Re: [Mimedefang] Authentication warnings and "cannot write" errors

2004-03-12 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
> Thanks for reminding me that the local submission queue is clientmqueue,
(Band
(B> not mqueue.
(B> It's "native" perms were:
(B>
(B> drwxrwx---2 smmspsmmsp4096 Oct  3 12:09 clientmqueue
(B>
(B> I've made "defang" a member of group smmsp.  I'll monitor, to see if that
(B> clears the problem.
(B
(BI've never had to do this but I might not have seen the issue.  DFS, any
(Binput if this should be a necessary step for all installations?
(B
(BRegards,
(BKAM
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RE: [Mimedefang] Authentication warnings and "cannot write" error s

2004-03-12 Thread Cormack, Ken
Alan,
(B
(BThanks for reminding me that the local submission queue is clientmqueue, and
(Bnot mqueue.
(BIt's "native" perms were:
(B
(Bdrwxrwx---2 smmspsmmsp4096 Oct  3 12:09 clientmqueue
(B
(BI've made "defang" a member of group smmsp.  I'll monitor, to see if that
(Bclears the problem.
(B
(B
(BKEN CORMACK, RHCE
(BSr. UNIX Systems Analyst,
(BOpen Systems Group
(BSr. Software Analyst,
(BTSG Midrange Systems Group
(BAFFILIATED COMPUTER SERVICES, INC.
(B
$B!H(JIf that that is $B!G(Jis$B!G(J is that that is not $B!G(Jnot is$B!G(J, 
(Bis that that is $B!G(J
(Bnot is$B!G(J that that is not $B!G(Jis$B!G(J?  It is!$B!I(J - Ken Cormack
(B
(B"Sendmail administration is not black magic.  There are legitimate technical
(Breasons why it requires the sacrificing of a live chicken." - Unknown
(B
(B-Original Message-
(BFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(B[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of alan
(Bpremselaar
(BSent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 6:22 PM
(BTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(BSubject: Re: [Mimedefang] Authentication warnings and "cannot write" errors
(B
(B
(BOn 3/12/04 6:23 AM, "Cormack, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
(B
(B> Dear group,
(B> 
(B> Poking through my maillog, I'm seeing log entries that appear below.  As I
(B> read mimedefang.pl, there are a few places where it looks like MIMEDefang
(Bis
(B> originating new messages, and sending them, addressed from the defang
(Buser,
(B> using the "-f" switch for sendmail.
(B> 
(B> In which case, it is failing to write the message to my /var/spool/mqueue
(B> directory, which has the following perms:
(B> drwxr-xr-x2 root mail   299008 Mar 11 16:20 mqueue
(B> 
(B> Should I make the "defang" user a member of group "mail", and open up
(Bwrite
(B> privalegdes to the group, on the mqueue directory?
(B> 
(B> Thanks for any advice.
(B> 
(B> Ken
(B> 
(B...snip...
(B
(BKen,
(B
(B  The notifications generated by MIMEDefang should be going thru your
(Bsubmission queue runner, and thus using /var/spool/clientmqueue.
(B
(Byou should confirm the existence of that directory and the permissions and
(Bmake sure you have a submission queue running.  I think the default is 1hour
(Band I set mine for 5mins.  (on redhat, this is configurable in
(B/etc/sysconfig/sendmail)
(B
(Banyways, i'd guess it's SOMEthing related to the /var/spool/clientmqueue
(Bdirectory.
(B
(BHTH
(B
(Balan
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Re: [Mimedefang] clamscan missing some virus's

2004-03-12 Thread Dirk Mueller
On Thursday 11 March 2004 19:30, Lucas Albers wrote:

> I am running .67-6 of clamav for debian.

Hmm, thats fairly old. 

> clamscan --mbox --no-summary --infected ./

can you try ENTIRE_MESSAGE only?

is it possible that by the time the mail was scanned first time, your clamav 
signature database wasn't up to date? Or rather, by the time you manually 
check, that there was an update inbetween?



Dirk
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