Re: [Mimedefang] Attention Yahoo subscribers

2006-03-30 Thread Ben Kamen

Is it just me or is everyone feeling sense of impending doom as well?

Wouldn't it be funny if everyone simply blocked GoodMail users for 1 week?

in access:
yahoo.com   REJECT  Please send a check for $0.01US to deliver your email
aol.com REJECT  Please send a check for $0.01US to deliver your email


Let AOL and Yahoo email each other. ;)

 -Ben


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Re: [Mimedefang] Attention Yahoo subscribers

2006-03-30 Thread WBrown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/30/2006 10:47:59 
AM:

 Is it just me or is everyone feeling sense of impending doom as well?

Let's just say I'm not optimistic about this.
 
 Wouldn't it be funny if everyone simply blocked GoodMail users for 1 
week?
 
 in access:
 yahoo.com   REJECT  Please send a check for $0.01US to deliver your 
email
 aol.com REJECT  Please send a check for $0.01US to deliver your 
email

My inclination is to wait until they reject something.  Then tell 
AOL/Yahoo that you'll accept their for a flat rate of $20 per month. 
(Simpler bookkeeping)
 

 Let AOL and Yahoo email each other. ;)

You've got to wonder whether it will come to that.  Has anyone heard how 
many have actually bought into this extortion scheme. 

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Re: [Mimedefang] Attention Yahoo subscribers

2006-03-30 Thread Kelson

David F. Skoll wrote:

As most of you know, Yahoo and AOL plan to partner with Goodmail to allow
people to pay to get around their anti-spam filters.

We (Roaring Penguin) obviously won't be paying, so if any Yahoo list members
have trouble receiving MIMEDefang traffic, please get a Gmail account.


As I understand it, Yahoo is only using GoodMail to certify 
transactional mails -- i.e. to identify real mail from your bank vs. 
phishing mail, or order confirmations, shipping notices, etc.   So the 
lack of a GoodMail seal isn't likely to cause this list any problems.


http://antispam.yahoo.com/faqs#a15

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Re: [Mimedefang] Attention Yahoo subscribers

2006-03-30 Thread WBrown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/30/2006 12:12:44 
PM:

 As I understand it, Yahoo is only using GoodMail to certify 
 transactional mails -- i.e. to identify real mail from your bank vs. 
 phishing mail, or order confirmations, shipping notices, etc.   So the 
 lack of a GoodMail seal isn't likely to cause this list any problems.

hhmmm yeah.  I wonder how many online retailers are signing up for 
Goodmail, just so their customers get their order confirmations.

On a related note it seems Avon can't seem to get SPF right.  I found 
several mails from them confirming orders and then corresponding shipment 
notifications in my trap.  Only score was a hard fail for SPF.
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Re: [Mimedefang] Attention Yahoo subscribers

2006-03-30 Thread Steffen Kaiser

On Thu, 30 Mar 2006, Kelson wrote:


David F. Skoll wrote:

As most of you know, Yahoo and AOL plan to partner with Goodmail to allow
people to pay to get around their anti-spam filters.

We (Roaring Penguin) obviously won't be paying, so if any Yahoo list 
members

have trouble receiving MIMEDefang traffic, please get a Gmail account.


As I understand it, Yahoo is only using GoodMail to certify transactional 
mails -- i.e. to identify real mail from your bank vs. phishing mail, or 
order confirmations, shipping notices, etc.   So the lack of a GoodMail seal 
isn't likely to cause this list any problems.


http://antispam.yahoo.com/faqs#a15


Dunno how many customers are aol or yahoo mail users, however, if the 
sentence The CertifiedEmail symbol assures the message is safe and from 
an accredited sender (quote from the GoodMail linkt in the above 
mentioned FAQ entry) may become more adicted to users, then the _absence_ 
of the symbol will cause a bad track!


Actually, I always wondered why free and open software is not able to 
implement a transparent way handling _existing_ sender accreditions, such 
as PGP, hence, pushing the relevance of non-commercially based 
authentification higher.


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[Mimedefang] Attention Yahoo subscribers

2006-03-29 Thread David F. Skoll
Hi,

As most of you know, Yahoo and AOL plan to partner with Goodmail to allow
people to pay to get around their anti-spam filters.

We (Roaring Penguin) obviously won't be paying, so if any Yahoo list members
have trouble receiving MIMEDefang traffic, please get a Gmail account.

There are no subscribers to MIMEDefang in the aol.com domain. :-)

Regards,

David.
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