Re: [Mimedefang] Can I get MimeDefang to email alert me when a customer server is on an RBL

2014-02-26 Thread David F. Skoll
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 08:30:35 -
"Jon Rowlan"  wrote:

> It just makes sense for me to RBL check the sending servers because
> that is where the problem is and indeed we are finding these sending
> servers listed on RBL servers - ours does not seem to get blacklisted.

MIMEDefang is written in Perl so of course you can do whatever you want.
It even has helper functions for doing RBL lookups, so... go nuts!

Regards,

David.
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Re: [Mimedefang] Can I get MimeDefang to email alert me when a customer server is on an RBL

2014-02-26 Thread Jon Rowlan
> If the spam is being relayed out through your filter, your IP address
is likely to be the one that will get blacklisted.  It will 
> be seen as the source of the spam.  You might want to look into rate
limiting your customers as well as scanning the messages.

To a certain extent that is already being done but these are small
emails and they typically go out on a Saturday and even rate limiting
still sees a hell of a lot of mail going out.

It just makes sense for me to RBL check the sending servers because that
is where the problem is and indeed we are finding these sending servers
listed on RBL servers - ours does not seem to get blacklisted.

One of our ISP's is able to notify us when there is an issue from one of
our client ISP's and we jump on and clean up the infection. I'd just
like to do the same at my server.

jON

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Re: [Mimedefang] Can I get MimeDefang to email alert me when a customer server is on an RBL

2014-02-25 Thread WBrown
Jon wrote on 02/25/2014 04:15:31 AM:

> I use sendmail/md/sa/clam to test for inbound, I actually don't know
> whether any checks are performed on the outgoing by this combination of
> systems, I would have thought that some check are made on mail going out
> as well as in.
 
> The systems relaying are a disparate bunch of customer servers. Windows
> mainly.
> 
> Occasionally we find a compromise and have to clean up but I am looking
> for ways to clean up far sooner and if possible to fix and block an
> impending flood before or as it happens.
> 
> What I realised is that an entry in my Access table that allows relay
> though my servers does not check RBL.

If the spam is being relayed out through your filter, your IP address is 
likely to be the one that will get blacklisted.  It will be seen as the 
source of the spam.  You might want to look into rate limiting your 
customers as well as scanning the messages.



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Re: [Mimedefang] Can I get MimeDefang to email alert me when a customer server is on an RBL

2014-02-25 Thread Jon Rowlan
> Leading question: Do you test outbound email for spam?

I use sendmail/md/sa/clam to test for inbound, I actually don't know
whether any checks are performed on the outgoing by this combination of
systems, I would have thought that some check are made on mail going out
as well as in.

The systems relaying are a disparate bunch of customer servers. Windows
mainly.

Occasionally we find a compromise and have to clean up but I am looking
for ways to clean up far sooner and if possible to fix and block an
impending flood before or as it happens.

What I realised is that an entry in my Access table that allows relay
though my servers does not check RBL.

jON



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Re: [Mimedefang] Can I get MimeDefang to email alert me when a customer server is on an RBL

2014-02-22 Thread Kevin A. McGrail

On 2/22/2014 4:54 AM, Jon Rowlan wrote:

I'd like to get MD to email an alert to postmaster when one of my
customer relay servers is featured on an RBL list. I use
MD/Clam/SA/Sendmail.

Currently if I allow a relay from a customer server, no RBL check is
done and it can be some time later that I discover I have been spammed
through.

Is this possible, I can't see any k/b articles to suggest how I might go
about this.

There are scripts that I can run to test a bunch of IP's but I would
rather this be alerted at the point when a client server wants to relay
through mine.

Leading question: Do you test outbound email for spam?

Regards,
KAM
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[Mimedefang] Can I get MimeDefang to email alert me when a customer server is on an RBL

2014-02-22 Thread Jon Rowlan
I'd like to get MD to email an alert to postmaster when one of my
customer relay servers is featured on an RBL list. I use
MD/Clam/SA/Sendmail.

Currently if I allow a relay from a customer server, no RBL check is
done and it can be some time later that I discover I have been spammed
through.

Is this possible, I can't see any k/b articles to suggest how I might go
about this.

There are scripts that I can run to test a bunch of IP's but I would
rather this be alerted at the point when a client server wants to relay
through mine.

Thanks all,

jON

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