Re: OT: Re: [Mimedefang] Fedora to replace sendmail with Exim as default MTA?

2005-03-01 Thread Stephen J. Smoogen
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 14:39:47 -0500 (EST), David F. Skoll
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Stephen J. Smoogen wrote:
> 
> > Can you give me some tips on where you are seeing this. I think if all
> > goes well I will be the Fedora packager for mimedefang... and want to
> > get it into place in a happy way.
> 
> Well, it only affects CanIt.  Under Fedora's SELinux settings, Apache is
> not allowed to open a UNIX-domain socket.  Since the default for PostgreSQL
> is to use a UNIX-domain socket if the client is on the same host, it
> kind of breaks our software.
> 
> I'm not familiar enough with SELinux configuration to know how to allow
> Apache to open a UNIX-domain socket.
> 

I will look at it . It will effect some web socket stuff for other
database driven items I am looking to package (drupal). That would
mean getting that working correctly.

> Regards,
> 
> David.
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Re: OT: Re: [Mimedefang] Fedora to replace sendmail with Exim as default MTA?

2005-03-01 Thread David F. Skoll
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Stephen J. Smoogen wrote:

> Can you give me some tips on where you are seeing this. I think if all
> goes well I will be the Fedora packager for mimedefang... and want to
> get it into place in a happy way.

Well, it only affects CanIt.  Under Fedora's SELinux settings, Apache is
not allowed to open a UNIX-domain socket.  Since the default for PostgreSQL
is to use a UNIX-domain socket if the client is on the same host, it
kind of breaks our software.

I'm not familiar enough with SELinux configuration to know how to allow
Apache to open a UNIX-domain socket.

Regards,

David.
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Re: OT: Re: [Mimedefang] Fedora to replace sendmail with Exim as default MTA?

2005-03-01 Thread Stephen J. Smoogen
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 14:44:40 -0500 (EST), David F. Skoll
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, Nels Lindquist wrote:
> 
> > > Huh.  I've already become so fed up with Red Hat that I'm switching to
> > > Debian anyway.  (Exim is the default on Debian, but it's easy to
> > > replace it with Sendmail.)
> 
> > Are you fed up with RedHat due to their packaging choices, or their
> > pricing/licensing?
> 
> Packaging choices, mostly.  I also don't like the way SELinux breaks
> almost everything useful. :-(
> 

Can you give me some tips on where you are seeing this. I think if all
goes well I will be the Fedora packager for mimedefang... and want to
get it into place in a happy way.



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OT: Re: [Mimedefang] Fedora to replace sendmail with Exim as default MTA?

2005-02-28 Thread David F. Skoll
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, Nels Lindquist wrote:

> > Huh.  I've already become so fed up with Red Hat that I'm switching to
> > Debian anyway.  (Exim is the default on Debian, but it's easy to
> > replace it with Sendmail.)

> Are you fed up with RedHat due to their packaging choices, or their 
> pricing/licensing?

Packaging choices, mostly.  I also don't like the way SELinux breaks
almost everything useful. :-(

I've been using Debian Testing for about a month now, and I'm really
quite impressed with how everything fits together nicely.  The wealth
of packaged software is amazing; almost everything I've wanted is just
an "apt-get install" away (with the single unhappy exception of XFCE
version 3.)

> If it's the latter, you might want to have a look at CentOS.  It's a
> RHEL rebuild with timely updates but without the high-priced support
> contract.

We don't use RHEL here anyway, so that's not an issue for us.  (Well,
we have a RHEL3 build machine for CanIt.  We build our RHEL4 binaries
with RHEL4 running under QEMU on Debian.)

I also feel it's a bit nasty to Red Hat to use CentOS or White Box
Linux.  Even though it's perfectly legal, I'd rather use a different
distro than use (basically) Red Hat's commercial distro without paying
anything to Red Hat.  I suppose Red Hat doesn't care because it
doesn't get money either way, :-) but it's just for my comfort.

Regards,

David.
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