Re: [Mimedefang] A rose by any other name... Renaming MIMEDefang. What's your idea for a name?
I do like "oyster" but I think MIMEDefang mostly performs classification and modification and any filtering seems to be secondary. I do filtering with procmail. I also think the current name is less than clear about what it does unless one is a real geek -- and even then... So here are some names I have been thinking about. SpamCat SpamID SpamKiller Spam Defender Spamalot -- sorry, I couldn't help myself. Spam Chaser SafeMail Mail Defender CleanMail I could go on, but I will refrain. Thanks! On 11/12/19 12:55 AM, Bill Maidment wrote: On 12/11/2019 3:45 pm, Kenneth Porter wrote: --On Monday, November 11, 2019 9:55 PM -0500 "Kevin A. McGrail" wrote: MIMEDefang needs a new name. Got ideas? Shout em out! It's a filter that works with Perl. What filter-feeder makes pearls? How about Oyster? That would go well with ClamAV :-) -- * David P. Both, RHCE Millennium Technology Consulting LLC Raleigh, NC, USA 919-389-8678 db...@millennium-technology.com www.millennium-technology.com www.Linux-Databook.info - Home of the DataBook for Linux DataBook is a Registered Trademark of David Both * ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] A rose by any other name... Renaming MIMEDefang. What's your idea for a name?
On 10 Dec 2019, at 9:42, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > Hi All, > > Just an update on two things: > > First, that I'm working with the current owners to re-light the project. > > Second, if we need a new name, we closed that vote a while ago and > maillusc was the clear winner and pun du jour encompassing > filtering/perl/oysters/mollusc's all in one horribly punny name. > > I recommend you think about a backronym for LUSC now :-) Library for User Specified Contraptions. -- Bill Cole b...@scconsult.com or billc...@apache.org (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses) Not For Hire (currently) ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] A rose by any other name... Renaming MIMEDefang. What's your idea for a name?
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Re: [Mimedefang] A rose by any other name... Renaming MIMEDefang. What's your idea for a name?
On 12/9/2019 4:12 PM, Richard Laager wrote: PerlMilter would clarify exactly what it does, but might be too generic. Or reverse that for the pun, MilterPerl. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_Berle ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] A rose by any other name... Renaming MIMEDefang. What's your idea for a name?
Am 09.12.19 um 18:12 schrieb Richard Laager: > PerlMilter would clarify exactly what it does, but might be too generic. I would have suggested perlmilter, too. Other ideas: flexmilter magic milter milterrific Frank (using mimedefang for decades and with a sqlite DB for rating source IPs and detecting identity theft and more) ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] A rose by any other name... Renaming MIMEDefang. What's your idea for a name?
On Tue, 12 Nov 2019, Anne Bennett wrote: MIMEDefang needs a new name. Why? Hm, the name was considered obsolete way back, if I recall correctly, because it grew way above the original intend: to defang suspicious MIME parts. Maybe, with trademarks on the hand et al, it's time to move. From: From: Jobst Schmalenbach It obeserves/checks/looks at the Mime of mail messages and then deletes/cans/removes a dangerous part The MIMEDefang Milter can do much more: + Apply ACLs + Reroute messages + Add/delete recipients + Change senders + Manipulate messages + Log messages + Archive messages + Sign/encrypt/verify messages + ... Several other milters focus on Virus, SPAM, Malware and the like only. From: Richard Laager PerlMilter would clarify exactly what it does, but might be too generic. Yeah. I like it. GenericPerlMilter AllYouCanThinkOfMilter :-) = ClamMilter - a Perl based Milter to scan and manipulate messages In reference to ClamAV as pointed out by Bill. Does anybody know, if ClamAV (now owned by Cisco, IMHO) is an acronym, well AV == Anti Virus, but the "Clam" part? SquidMilter - ... Squid, any of more than 300 species of 10-armed cephalopods classified within the order Teuthoidea [Britannica] ... the squid has its tentacles everywhere. Might be a reference to the Squid web proxy/cache as well. PenguinMilter - ... PengiMilter - ... In reference to the past of it GeneralPurposeMilter (abbr. GPMilter) - ... all you can think of you can do with *the* General Purpose Milter -- Cheers, Steffen Kaiser___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] A rose by any other name... Renaming MIMEDefang. What's your idea for a name?
On 12/9/19 5:16 PM, Jobst Schmalenbach wrote: > Why not use a descriptive name what it actually does? > That way people who do not know about it will immediately understand. > > It obeserves/checks/looks at the Mime of mail messages and then > deletes/cans/removes a dangerous part That description is a bit too specific to the default filter. PerlMilter would clarify exactly what it does, but might be too generic. -- Richard ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] A rose by any other name... Renaming MIMEDefang. What's your idea for a name?
Why not use a descriptive name what it actually does? That way people who do not know about it will immediately understand. It obeserves/checks/looks at the Mime of mail messages and then deletes/cans/removes a dangerous part MimeObserveDelete -> MimeObDel MimeCheckRemove -> MimeCheRem MimeLocateCan -> MimeLoCan just to name a few combos. Jobst On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 09:55:42PM -0500, Kevin A. McGrail (kmcgr...@pccc.com) wrote: > Hello All, > > MIMEDefang needs a new name. Got ideas? Shout em out! > > Regards, > > KAM > > ___ > NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above > message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. > > Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com > MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com > http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang -- Jobst Schmalenbach C is a write-only language. ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] A rose by any other name... Renaming MIMEDefang. What's your idea for a name?
Kevin A. McGrail skrev den 2019-11-12 03:55: MIMEDefang needs a new name. Got ideas? Shout em out! why ? is windows defender not good ? :=) ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] A rose by any other name... Renaming MIMEDefang. What's your idea for a name?
Paul Murphy skrev den 2019-11-12 18:11: Presumably because the name is owned by Roaring Penguin, and was acquired along with the company and all of its intellectual property, trademarks, etc. not possible without changing names ? ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] A rose by any other name... Renaming MIMEDefang. What's your idea for a name?
Presumably because the name is owned by Roaring Penguin, and was acquired along with the company and all of its intellectual property, trademarks, etc. Paul. -Original Message- From: MIMEDefang [mailto:mimedefang-boun...@lists.roaringpenguin.com] On Behalf Of Anne Bennett Sent: 12 November 2019 15:38 To: mimedefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com Subject: Re: [Mimedefang] A rose by any other name... Renaming MIMEDefang. What's your idea for a name? > MIMEDefang needs a new name. Why? Anne. -- Ms. Anne Bennett, Senior Sysadmin, ENCS, Concordia University, Montreal H3G 1M8 a...@encs.concordia.ca+1 514 848-2424 x2285 ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] A rose by any other name... Renaming MIMEDefang. What's your idea for a name?
> MIMEDefang needs a new name. Why? Anne. -- Ms. Anne Bennett, Senior Sysadmin, ENCS, Concordia University, Montreal H3G 1M8 a...@encs.concordia.ca+1 514 848-2424 x2285 ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] A rose by any other name... Renaming MIMEDefang. What's your idea for a name?
>> MIMEDefang needs a new name. Got ideas? Shout em out! > > It's a filter that works with Perl. What filter-feeder makes pearls? > How about Oyster? > That would go well with ClamAV :-) OOH, clever. Sorry to be the wet blanket, but just make sure you aren't going to run into copyright/trademark conflicts. Confidentiality Notice: This electronic message and any attachments may contain confidential or privileged information, and is intended only for the individual or entity identified above as the addressee. If you are not the addressee (or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the addressee), or if this message has been addressed to you in error, you are hereby notified that you may not copy, forward, disclose or use any part of this message or any attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail or telephone and delete this message from your system. ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] A rose by any other name... Renaming MIMEDefang. What's your idea for a name?
On 12/11/2019 3:45 pm, Kenneth Porter wrote: --On Monday, November 11, 2019 9:55 PM -0500 "Kevin A. McGrail" wrote: MIMEDefang needs a new name. Got ideas? Shout em out! It's a filter that works with Perl. What filter-feeder makes pearls? How about Oyster? That would go well with ClamAV :-) -- Cheers Bill ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: [Mimedefang] A rose by any other name... Renaming MIMEDefang. What's your idea for a name?
--On Monday, November 11, 2019 9:55 PM -0500 "Kevin A. McGrail" wrote: MIMEDefang needs a new name. Got ideas? Shout em out! It's a filter that works with Perl. What filter-feeder makes pearls? How about Oyster? ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang