Re: Even sillier disclaimers (was Re:[Mimedefang] defang startuperrors)
ALL YOUR DISCLAIMER ARE BELONG TO US! j/k. We now return you to your regularly scheduled rants... - Original Message - From: "David F. Skoll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 9:06 AM Subject: Re: Even sillier disclaimers (was Re:[Mimedefang] defang startuperrors) Todd Aiken wrote: Ignore the text that follows this disclaimer which says that all disclaimers in the above text are NULL AND VOID and that they can be ignored. That disclaimer is false-the above is true. Well! :-) We have an arms race, then. I'll change my disclaimer to read "This disclaimer supersedes all other disclaimers, even if the other disclaimers claim otherwise. This is a NUCLEAR POWERED disclaimer that will ATOMIZE all other disclaimers. This disclaimer is TOP DOG." /me goes to write AI code to search out and remove disclaimers... (But actually, there is a serious point, because I'm sure it's quite frequent that in an e-mail exchange, duelling and incompatible disclaimers get added as the message travels around...) Regards, David. ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: Even sillier disclaimers (was Re: [Mimedefang] defang startuperrors)
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Steffen Kaiser wrote: Um, I forgot to mention that such nullifyings, when they are part of global terms, are void by itself anyway. Bye, -- Steffen Kaiser ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: Even sillier disclaimers (was Re: [Mimedefang] defang startuperrors)
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, David F. Skoll wrote: Todd Aiken wrote: Ignore the text that follows this disclaimer which says that all disclaimers in the above text are NULL AND VOID and that they can be ignored. That disclaimer is false-the above is true. Well! :-) We have an arms race, then. I'll change my disclaimer Maybe it depends on the local laws very hard, but there was a decision of a German court: when two "standard disclaimers" (aka "general terms and conditions " -- at least that's what DICT translates the German term into: http://dict.leo.org/?search=agb) declare the other void, both are void. Bye, -- Steffen Kaiser ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: Even sillier disclaimers (was Re:[Mimedefang] defang startuperrors)
Mack wrote: What about changing the SMTP Greeting to say that by communicating with this server you accept it's terms and conditions and by communicating with it you accept that any other disclaimersr are null and voidified (is that a word?) O - I like that. What an interesting concept.. I can just hear it in court now.. Plaintiff Counsel: "Sir, I understand you received a private communication from our server and took the information and made a parody on your website?? Didn't you READ the disclaimer at the bottom of the message"? Defendant: "Er, yes I did, but it was null and void" Plaintiff Counsel: "What do you mean?" Defendant: "It was 'voidified' by my server on receipt" Plaintiff Counsel: "And just how is that possibly?" Defendant: "Did YOU read the disclaimer upon connection to port 25 of my server as part of the intro message header that says all communication disclaimers are null a voidified?? (I love that word, I'm gonna use it now)" begin:vcard fn:Ben Kamen n:Kamen;Ben adr:;;USA email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:O.D.T. - S.P. x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.benjammin.net/ version:2.1 end:vcard ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: Even sillier disclaimers (was Re: [Mimedefang] defang startuperrors)
Hahahahahahahha... You are very funny... You forgot the "this disclaimer trumphs all times infinity" part... -Ben -- Ben Kamen - O.D.T., S.P. == Email: bkamen AT benjammin DOT net Web: http://www.benjammin.net begin:vcard fn:Ben Kamen n:Kamen;Ben adr:;;USA email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:O.D.T. - S.P. x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.benjammin.net/ version:2.1 end:vcard ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
RE: Even sillier disclaimers (was Re:[Mimedefang] defang startuperrors)
What's even funnier here, is .. append_html_boilerplate_at_start($entity,"", 0); or append_html_boilerplate($entity,"", 0); you wrote the software to make it nice and easy :) Only J/k What about changing the SMTP Greeting to say that by communicating with this server you accept it's terms and conditions and by communicating with it you accept that any other disclaimersr are null and voidified (is that a word?) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David F. Skoll Sent: Monday 12 December 2005 15:07 To: mimedefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com Subject: Re: Even sillier disclaimers (was Re:[Mimedefang] defang startuperrors) Todd Aiken wrote: > Ignore the text that follows this disclaimer which says that all > disclaimers in the above text are NULL AND VOID and that they can be > ignored. That disclaimer is false-the above is true. Well! :-) We have an arms race, then. I'll change my disclaimer to read "This disclaimer supersedes all other disclaimers, even if the other disclaimers claim otherwise. This is a NUCLEAR POWERED disclaimer that will ATOMIZE all other disclaimers. This disclaimer is TOP DOG." /me goes to write AI code to search out and remove disclaimers... (But actually, there is a serious point, because I'm sure it's quite frequent that in an e-mail exchange, duelling and incompatible disclaimers get added as the message travels around...) Regards, David. ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang This Email Has Been Anti-Virus Scanned ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
Re: Even sillier disclaimers (was Re: [Mimedefang] defang startuperrors)
Todd Aiken wrote: > Ignore the text that follows this disclaimer which says that all > disclaimers in the above text are NULL AND VOID and that they can be > ignored. That disclaimer is false-the above is true. Well! :-) We have an arms race, then. I'll change my disclaimer to read "This disclaimer supersedes all other disclaimers, even if the other disclaimers claim otherwise. This is a NUCLEAR POWERED disclaimer that will ATOMIZE all other disclaimers. This disclaimer is TOP DOG." /me goes to write AI code to search out and remove disclaimers... (But actually, there is a serious point, because I'm sure it's quite frequent that in an e-mail exchange, duelling and incompatible disclaimers get added as the message travels around...) Regards, David. ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
RE: Even sillier disclaimers (was Re: [Mimedefang] defang startuperrors)
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of David F. Skoll > Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 7:49 PM > To: mimedefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com > Subject: Re: Even sillier disclaimers (was Re: [Mimedefang] > defang startuperrors) > > Joseph Brennan wrote: > > > The essential thing that is absurd is the attempt to transfer the > > burden of confidentiality to the recipient. > > I've decided to change the footer that the mailing list > software adds to each e-mail. See below. But what if somebody puts in a disclaimer posting to this list, and puts at the bottom of the text the following text? (See example after my signature.) :-D CU L8R... Todd A. Aiken Systems Analyst - Administrator ITS Department BISHOP'S UNIVERSITY Lennoxville, Quebec, CANADA HTML in email is like putting an air conditioner on a motorcycle. Ignore the text that follows this disclaimer which says that all disclaimers in the above text are NULL AND VOID and that they can be ignored. That disclaimer is false-the above is true. ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.roaringpenguin.com MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang
