Re: [Mingw-w64-public] Pre-built toolchains and packages gone from the Downloads page

[Norbert Pfeiler]

Also: http://mingw-w64.org/doku.php/versions

On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 2:03 PM Norbert Pfeiler <
norbert.pfeiler+mingw-...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I, too, think alphabetical order is seen as intentionally unbiased.
> It’s not like there are 3 projects starting with AAA anyway.
>
> > (except for the fact that there should be two lists and not one)
> Why do you think there should be 2 lists?
> I would split it in native and cross toolchains.
>
> Additionally, since I can’t edit this myself now:
> msys2 has gcc 6.1.0 and also offers all the languages (like debian or
> ubuntu)
>
> Regards, Norbert.
>
> On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 1:31 PM Adrien Nader  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Sep 05, 2016, NightStrike wrote:
>> > On Sep 4, 2016 6:50 PM, "Adrien Nader"  wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Additionaly, the list of projects using mingw-w64 is now sorted and
>> > > always displayed in full.
>> >
>> > This was always randomized on purpose, and for very good reason: we
>> don't
>> > want to give preferential treatment to projects based on names starting
>> > with 'A'. We'd like to give equal exposure to all.
>>
>> I still have a few things to improve for this but the drawbacks to
>> randomizing are a bit too big for my taste.
>>
>> - users find the order weird
>> - users find the order changes weird
>> - the current implementation relies on javascript and makes the list
>>   change suddenly
>> - some search engine bots *really* dislike that links come and go
>>
>> Meanwhile the links are not at the top of the page at all and are quite
>> clearly sorted alphabetically (except for the fact that there should be
>> two lists and not one) which makes me not worried about this.
>>
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Re: [Mingw-w64-public] Pre-built toolchains and packages gone from the Downloads page

[Norbert Pfeiler]

I, too, think alphabetical order is seen as intentionally unbiased.
It’s not like there are 3 projects starting with AAA anyway.

> (except for the fact that there should be two lists and not one)
Why do you think there should be 2 lists?
I would split it in native and cross toolchains.

Additionally, since I can’t edit this myself now:
msys2 has gcc 6.1.0 and also offers all the languages (like debian or
ubuntu)

Regards, Norbert.

On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 1:31 PM Adrien Nader  wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 05, 2016, NightStrike wrote:
> > On Sep 4, 2016 6:50 PM, "Adrien Nader"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Additionaly, the list of projects using mingw-w64 is now sorted and
> > > always displayed in full.
> >
> > This was always randomized on purpose, and for very good reason: we don't
> > want to give preferential treatment to projects based on names starting
> > with 'A'. We'd like to give equal exposure to all.
>
> I still have a few things to improve for this but the drawbacks to
> randomizing are a bit too big for my taste.
>
> - users find the order weird
> - users find the order changes weird
> - the current implementation relies on javascript and makes the list
>   change suddenly
> - some search engine bots *really* dislike that links come and go
>
> Meanwhile the links are not at the top of the page at all and are quite
> clearly sorted alphabetically (except for the fact that there should be
> two lists and not one) which makes me not worried about this.
>
> --
> Adrien Nader
>
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Re: [Mingw-w64-public] Pre-built toolchains and packages gone from the Downloads page

[Adrien Nader]

On Mon, Sep 05, 2016, NightStrike wrote:
> On Sep 4, 2016 6:50 PM, "Adrien Nader"  wrote:
> >
> > Additionaly, the list of projects using mingw-w64 is now sorted and
> > always displayed in full.
> 
> This was always randomized on purpose, and for very good reason: we don't
> want to give preferential treatment to projects based on names starting
> with 'A'. We'd like to give equal exposure to all.

I still have a few things to improve for this but the drawbacks to
randomizing are a bit too big for my taste.

- users find the order weird
- users find the order changes weird
- the current implementation relies on javascript and makes the list
  change suddenly
- some search engine bots *really* dislike that links come and go

Meanwhile the links are not at the top of the page at all and are quite
clearly sorted alphabetically (except for the fact that there should be
two lists and not one) which makes me not worried about this.

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Re: [Mingw-w64-public] Pre-built toolchains and packages gone from the Downloads page

[Adrien Nader]

That, I can arrange it by hand. I thought it ws fine for you now and I
had added you to the right group to edit the pages. I'll get you a new
password by hand this evening.

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