[Mingw-w64-public] wrong ar.exe name in ruben's build ?

2012-03-16 Thread Vincent Torri
hey

in x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc-4.7.0-3_rubenvb.7z, ar.exe is also named
x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc-ar.exe and not x86_64-w64-mingw32-ar.exe. Is it
normal ?

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Re: [Mingw-w64-public] wrong ar.exe name in ruben's build ?

2012-03-16 Thread Ruben Van Boxem
2012/3/16 Vincent Torri 

> hey
>
> in x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc-4.7.0-3_rubenvb.7z, ar.exe is also named
> x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc-ar.exe and not x86_64-w64-mingw32-ar.exe. Is it
> normal ?
>

I think it is. These seem to be related to GCC plugins, and do not appear
in my 4.6.4 build for example. When I try to run them, I get an error about
the program not being built with plugins (probably cause I didn't enable
them explicitely in binutils or gcc or something). The original binutils
binaries were never prefixed, so I'd say just ignore them and use the
prefixless versions.

Ruben


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Re: [Mingw-w64-public] wrong ar.exe name in ruben's build ?

2012-03-16 Thread Vincent Torri
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Ruben Van Boxem
 wrote:
> 2012/3/16 Vincent Torri 
>>
>> hey
>>
>> in x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc-4.7.0-3_rubenvb.7z, ar.exe is also named
>> x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc-ar.exe and not x86_64-w64-mingw32-ar.exe. Is it
>> normal ?
>
>
> I think it is. These seem to be related to GCC plugins, and do not appear in
> my 4.6.4 build for example. When I try to run them, I get an error about the
> program not being built with plugins (probably cause I didn't enable them
> explicitely in binutils or gcc or something). The original binutils binaries
> were never prefixed, so I'd say just ignore them and use the prefixless
> versions.

the problem i had is that if I pass --host=foobar, the autotools
search for foobar-ar and not foobar-gcc-ar, hence an error

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Re: [Mingw-w64-public] wrong ar.exe name in ruben's build ?

2012-03-16 Thread Ruben Van Boxem
2012/3/16 Vincent Torri 

> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Ruben Van Boxem
>  wrote:
> > 2012/3/16 Vincent Torri 
> >>
> >> hey
> >>
> >> in x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc-4.7.0-3_rubenvb.7z, ar.exe is also named
> >> x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc-ar.exe and not x86_64-w64-mingw32-ar.exe. Is it
> >> normal ?
> >
> >
> > I think it is. These seem to be related to GCC plugins, and do not
> appear in
> > my 4.6.4 build for example. When I try to run them, I get an error about
> the
> > program not being built with plugins (probably cause I didn't enable them
> > explicitely in binutils or gcc or something). The original binutils
> binaries
> > were never prefixed, so I'd say just ignore them and use the prefixless
> > versions.
>
> the problem i had is that if I pass --host=foobar, the autotools
> search for foobar-ar and not foobar-gcc-ar, hence an error
>

It should always fall back to non-prefixed versions (on MSYS at least),
causing no issues.

Ruben


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Re: [Mingw-w64-public] wrong ar.exe name in ruben's build ?

2012-03-16 Thread xunxun
于 2012/3/16 23:22, Ruben Van Boxem 写道:
> I think it is. These seem to be related to GCC plugins, and do not 
> appear in my 4.6.4 build for example. When I try to run them, I get an 
> error about the program not being built with plugins (probably cause I 
> didn't enable them explicitely in binutils or gcc or something). The 
> original binutils binaries were never prefixed, so I'd say just ignore 
> them and use the prefixless versions.
You should build binutils using --enable-plugin
x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc-ar.exe is a ar plugin wrapper

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Re: [Mingw-w64-public] wrong ar.exe name in ruben's build ?

2012-03-16 Thread Vincent Torri
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Ruben Van Boxem
 wrote:
> 2012/3/16 Vincent Torri 
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Ruben Van Boxem
>>  wrote:
>> > 2012/3/16 Vincent Torri 
>> >>
>> >> hey
>> >>
>> >> in x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc-4.7.0-3_rubenvb.7z, ar.exe is also named
>> >> x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc-ar.exe and not x86_64-w64-mingw32-ar.exe. Is it
>> >> normal ?
>> >
>> >
>> > I think it is. These seem to be related to GCC plugins, and do not
>> > appear in
>> > my 4.6.4 build for example. When I try to run them, I get an error about
>> > the
>> > program not being built with plugins (probably cause I didn't enable
>> > them
>> > explicitely in binutils or gcc or something). The original binutils
>> > binaries
>> > were never prefixed, so I'd say just ignore them and use the prefixless
>> > versions.
>>
>> the problem i had is that if I pass --host=foobar, the autotools
>> search for foobar-ar and not foobar-gcc-ar, hence an error
>
>
> It should always fall back to non-prefixed versions (on MSYS at least),
> causing no issues.

well, some autotooled programs/libraries rely on the host to compile
in some wpecific way. So i don't think it's always good t rely on the
non prefix versions

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Re: [Mingw-w64-public] wrong ar.exe name in ruben's build ?

2012-03-16 Thread Ruben Van Boxem
2012/3/16 Vincent Torri 

> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Ruben Van Boxem
>  wrote:
> > 2012/3/16 Vincent Torri 
> >>
> >> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Ruben Van Boxem
> >>  wrote:
> >> > 2012/3/16 Vincent Torri 
> >> >>
> >> >> hey
> >> >>
> >> >> in x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc-4.7.0-3_rubenvb.7z, ar.exe is also named
> >> >> x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc-ar.exe and not x86_64-w64-mingw32-ar.exe. Is
> it
> >> >> normal ?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I think it is. These seem to be related to GCC plugins, and do not
> >> > appear in
> >> > my 4.6.4 build for example. When I try to run them, I get an error
> about
> >> > the
> >> > program not being built with plugins (probably cause I didn't enable
> >> > them
> >> > explicitely in binutils or gcc or something). The original binutils
> >> > binaries
> >> > were never prefixed, so I'd say just ignore them and use the
> prefixless
> >> > versions.
> >>
> >> the problem i had is that if I pass --host=foobar, the autotools
> >> search for foobar-ar and not foobar-gcc-ar, hence an error
> >
> >
> > It should always fall back to non-prefixed versions (on MSYS at least),
> > causing no issues.
>
> well, some autotooled programs/libraries rely on the host to compile
> in some wpecific way. So i don't think it's always good t rely on the
> non prefix versions
>

When compiling natively there is no problem, even when you specify host,
autotools defaults to the non-prefixed versions. Linux users do it all the
time. Native toolchains are non-prefixed by definition/design. Blame GNU
for that if you think it is wrong or broken. You can always copy ar.exe if
you feel the need. I haven't encountered any autotools project that does
not work in this way wrt this detail.

Ruben


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Re: [Mingw-w64-public] wrong ar.exe name in ruben's build ?

2012-03-16 Thread Vincent Torri
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Ruben Van Boxem
 wrote:
> 2012/3/16 Vincent Torri 
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Ruben Van Boxem
>>  wrote:
>> > 2012/3/16 Vincent Torri 
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Ruben Van Boxem
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> > 2012/3/16 Vincent Torri 
>> >> >>
>> >> >> hey
>> >> >>
>> >> >> in x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc-4.7.0-3_rubenvb.7z, ar.exe is also named
>> >> >> x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc-ar.exe and not x86_64-w64-mingw32-ar.exe. Is
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> normal ?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > I think it is. These seem to be related to GCC plugins, and do not
>> >> > appear in
>> >> > my 4.6.4 build for example. When I try to run them, I get an error
>> >> > about
>> >> > the
>> >> > program not being built with plugins (probably cause I didn't enable
>> >> > them
>> >> > explicitely in binutils or gcc or something). The original binutils
>> >> > binaries
>> >> > were never prefixed, so I'd say just ignore them and use the
>> >> > prefixless
>> >> > versions.
>> >>
>> >> the problem i had is that if I pass --host=foobar, the autotools
>> >> search for foobar-ar and not foobar-gcc-ar, hence an error
>> >
>> >
>> > It should always fall back to non-prefixed versions (on MSYS at least),
>> > causing no issues.
>>
>> well, some autotooled programs/libraries rely on the host to compile
>> in some wpecific way. So i don't think it's always good t rely on the
>> non prefix versions
>
>
> When compiling natively there is no problem, even when you specify host,
> autotools defaults to the non-prefixed versions. Linux users do it all the
> time. Native toolchains are non-prefixed by definition/design. Blame GNU for
> that if you think it is wrong or broken. You can always copy ar.exe if you
> feel the need. I haven't encountered any autotools project that does not
> work in this way wrt this detail.
>

i've just compiled binutils (latest release) myself with
--host=x86_64-w64-mingw32, and it failed, saying that
x86_64-w64-mingw32-ar.exe was not found. I had to rename it

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Re: [Mingw-w64-public] wrong ar.exe name in ruben's build ?

2012-03-16 Thread Ruben Van Boxem
2012/3/16 Vincent Torri 

> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Ruben Van Boxem
>  wrote:
> > 2012/3/16 Vincent Torri 
> >>
> >> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Ruben Van Boxem
> >>  wrote:
> >> > 2012/3/16 Vincent Torri 
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Ruben Van Boxem
> >> >>  wrote:
> >> >> > 2012/3/16 Vincent Torri 
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> hey
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> in x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc-4.7.0-3_rubenvb.7z, ar.exe is also named
> >> >> >> x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc-ar.exe and not x86_64-w64-mingw32-ar.exe.
> Is
> >> >> >> it
> >> >> >> normal ?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I think it is. These seem to be related to GCC plugins, and do not
> >> >> > appear in
> >> >> > my 4.6.4 build for example. When I try to run them, I get an error
> >> >> > about
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > program not being built with plugins (probably cause I didn't
> enable
> >> >> > them
> >> >> > explicitely in binutils or gcc or something). The original binutils
> >> >> > binaries
> >> >> > were never prefixed, so I'd say just ignore them and use the
> >> >> > prefixless
> >> >> > versions.
> >> >>
> >> >> the problem i had is that if I pass --host=foobar, the autotools
> >> >> search for foobar-ar and not foobar-gcc-ar, hence an error
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > It should always fall back to non-prefixed versions (on MSYS at
> least),
> >> > causing no issues.
> >>
> >> well, some autotooled programs/libraries rely on the host to compile
> >> in some wpecific way. So i don't think it's always good t rely on the
> >> non prefix versions
> >
> >
> > When compiling natively there is no problem, even when you specify host,
> > autotools defaults to the non-prefixed versions. Linux users do it all
> the
> > time. Native toolchains are non-prefixed by definition/design. Blame GNU
> for
> > that if you think it is wrong or broken. You can always copy ar.exe if
> you
> > feel the need. I haven't encountered any autotools project that does not
> > work in this way wrt this detail.
> >
>
> i've just compiled binutils (latest release) myself with
> --host=x86_64-w64-mingw32, and it failed, saying that
> x86_64-w64-mingw32-ar.exe was not found. I had to rename it
>

You can also use AR= and similar for the missing stuff. Did you try
specifying build as well?

Ruben


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Re: [Mingw-w64-public] wrong ar.exe name in ruben's build ?

2012-03-16 Thread Vincent Torri
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Ruben Van Boxem
 wrote:
>
> You can also use AR= and similar for the missing stuff.

sure, but the cross compilation should work without modification.

> Did you try specifying build as well?

i don't understand

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Re: [Mingw-w64-public] wrong ar.exe name in ruben's build ?

2012-03-16 Thread Ruben Van Boxem
2012/3/16 Vincent Torri 

> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Ruben Van Boxem
>  wrote:
> >
> > You can also use AR= and similar for the missing stuff.
>
> sure, but the cross compilation should work without modification.
>

That's the thing: my toolchains (at least the windows ones) aren't
cross-compilers. The linux cross-compilers I built have all binaries
prefixed.


>
> > Did you try specifying build as well?
>
> i don't understand
>

pass --build=x86_64-w64-mingw32 to configure. I just checked under MSYS, it
works as it should.

Ruben


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Re: [Mingw-w64-public] wrong ar.exe name in ruben's build ?

2012-03-21 Thread Christer Solskogen
On 16/3/2012 4:52 PM, Vincent Torri wrote:

> the problem i had is that if I pass --host=foobar, the autotools
> search for foobar-ar and not foobar-gcc-ar, hence an error
>

gcc-ar is not the same as ar from binutils. That is something that comes 
with gcc 4.7. While I'm not quite sure what is does, I'm guessing that 
is not something you should use directly.

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Re: [Mingw-w64-public] wrong ar.exe name in ruben's build ?

2012-03-21 Thread Vincent Torri
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Christer Solskogen
 wrote:
> On 16/3/2012 4:52 PM, Vincent Torri wrote:
>
>> the problem i had is that if I pass --host=foobar, the autotools
>> search for foobar-ar and not foobar-gcc-ar, hence an error
>>
>
> gcc-ar is not the same as ar from binutils. That is something that comes
> with gcc 4.7. While I'm not quite sure what is does, I'm guessing that
> is not something you should use directly.

then that's problematic... There is a tool that I don't know what it
does, and setting host will result in failing because of a missing
***-ar.exe

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Re: [Mingw-w64-public] wrong ar.exe name in ruben's build ?

2012-03-21 Thread Christer Solskogen
On 21/3-2012 5:45 PM, Vincent Torri wrote:

> then that's problematic... There is a tool that I don't know what it
> does, and setting host will result in failing because of a missing
> ***-ar.exe
>

But that's most probably your fault. You have configured binutils wrong, 
or you don't have binutils at all. If configured and installed correctly 
you will have ar(or ar.exe) or x86_64-w64-mingw32-ar(if you have 
installed a cross-binutils).

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Re: [Mingw-w64-public] wrong ar.exe name in ruben's build ?

2012-03-21 Thread Vincent Torri
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Christer Solskogen
 wrote:
> On 21/3-2012 5:45 PM, Vincent Torri wrote:
>
>> then that's problematic... There is a tool that I don't know what it
>> does, and setting host will result in failing because of a missing
>> ***-ar.exe
>>
>
> But that's most probably your fault. You have configured binutils wrong,
> or you don't have binutils at all. If configured and installed correctly
> you will have ar(or ar.exe) or x86_64-w64-mingw32-ar(if you have
> installed a cross-binutils).

No, not my fault. I've always used both automatic build and Ruben's
build before his last release. It always worked fine.

I used the last one, boum error.

And I should build by myself binutils, as it is provided by mingw-w64...

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Re: [Mingw-w64-public] wrong ar.exe name in ruben's build ?

2012-03-21 Thread Ruben Van Boxem
2012/3/21 Vincent Torri 

> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Christer Solskogen
>  wrote:
> > On 21/3-2012 5:45 PM, Vincent Torri wrote:
> >
> >> then that's problematic... There is a tool that I don't know what it
> >> does, and setting host will result in failing because of a missing
> >> ***-ar.exe
> >>
> >
> > But that's most probably your fault. You have configured binutils wrong,
> > or you don't have binutils at all. If configured and installed correctly
> > you will have ar(or ar.exe) or x86_64-w64-mingw32-ar(if you have
> > installed a cross-binutils).
>
> No, not my fault. I've always used both automatic build and Ruben's
> build before his last release. It always worked fine.
>
> I used the last one, boum error.
>

What tool are you talking about, what build system is failing, etc..?
You're not giving us anything to work with here. If you give details,
preferably stuff I/we can try to reproduce, I/we could help you. The fact
remains that your story does not make any sense, and I think an unexpected
operator error has snuck in. (Reproducible) Details would clarify.

Ruben


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Re: [Mingw-w64-public] wrong ar.exe name in ruben's build ?

2012-03-21 Thread Vincent Torri
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Ruben Van Boxem
 wrote:
> 2012/3/21 Vincent Torri 
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Christer Solskogen
>>  wrote:
>> > On 21/3-2012 5:45 PM, Vincent Torri wrote:
>> >
>> >> then that's problematic... There is a tool that I don't know what it
>> >> does, and setting host will result in failing because of a missing
>> >> ***-ar.exe
>> >>
>> >
>> > But that's most probably your fault. You have configured binutils wrong,
>> > or you don't have binutils at all. If configured and installed correctly
>> > you will have ar(or ar.exe) or x86_64-w64-mingw32-ar(if you have
>> > installed a cross-binutils).
>>
>> No, not my fault. I've always used both automatic build and Ruben's
>> build before his last release. It always worked fine.
>>
>> I used the last one, boum error.
>
>
> What tool are you talking about, what build system is failing, etc..? You're
> not giving us anything to work with here. If you give details, preferably
> stuff I/we can try to reproduce, I/we could help you. The fact remains that
> your story does not make any sense, and I think an unexpected operator error
> has snuck in. (Reproducible) Details would clarify.

my original mail :

"in x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc-4.7.0-3_rubenvb.7z, ar.exe is also named
x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc-ar.exe and not x86_64-w64-mingw32-ar.exe. Is it
normal ?"

did you read it ?

Vincent

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Re: [Mingw-w64-public] wrong ar.exe name in ruben's build ?

2012-03-21 Thread niXman
2012/3/21 Vincent Torri :
> my original mail :
>
> "in x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc-4.7.0-3_rubenvb.7z, ar.exe is also named
> x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc-ar.exe and not x86_64-w64-mingw32-ar.exe. Is it
> normal ?"

I asked about this, too:
http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-help/2011-12/msg00211.html, but noone
doesn't know about it.

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Re: [Mingw-w64-public] wrong ar.exe name in ruben's build ?

2012-03-21 Thread Ruben Van Boxem
2012/3/21 Vincent Torri 

> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Ruben Van Boxem
>  wrote:
> > 2012/3/21 Vincent Torri 
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Christer Solskogen
> >>  wrote:
> >> > On 21/3-2012 5:45 PM, Vincent Torri wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> then that's problematic... There is a tool that I don't know what it
> >> >> does, and setting host will result in failing because of a missing
> >> >> ***-ar.exe
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > But that's most probably your fault. You have configured binutils
> wrong,
> >> > or you don't have binutils at all. If configured and installed
> correctly
> >> > you will have ar(or ar.exe) or x86_64-w64-mingw32-ar(if you have
> >> > installed a cross-binutils).
> >>
> >> No, not my fault. I've always used both automatic build and Ruben's
> >> build before his last release. It always worked fine.
> >>
> >> I used the last one, boum error.
> >
> >
> > What tool are you talking about, what build system is failing, etc..?
> You're
> > not giving us anything to work with here. If you give details, preferably
> > stuff I/we can try to reproduce, I/we could help you. The fact remains
> that
> > your story does not make any sense, and I think an unexpected operator
> error
> > has snuck in. (Reproducible) Details would clarify.
>
> my original mail :
>
> "in x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc-4.7.0-3_rubenvb.7z, ar.exe is also named
> x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc-ar.exe and not x86_64-w64-mingw32-ar.exe. Is it
> normal ?"
>
> did you read it ?
>

No need to get snide. I read each of your emails, and even replied to most
of them. Did you read my answers?

The only concrete example of a failing project you gave, was binutils,
which as Kai and I pointed out, you misconfigured by not specifying the
"--build" option, implicitely telling autotools you were cross-compiling,
resulting in it wanting a "-ar". Nowhere in that little story did
any reference to any "-gcc-ar" ever pop up. Autotools doesn't even
check for such an executable. Ignore these new executables, because as
Xunxun already said (in mail 3 of the thread, they are related to the
GCC-binutils plugin architecture, which wasn't enabled for my build. Delete
them for all I care.

Now unless you have a problem that hasn't already been solved, please
*refrain* from *not giving* details which might actually get your unknown
problem solved.

Ruben


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Re: [Mingw-w64-public] wrong ar.exe name in ruben's build ?

2012-03-21 Thread Vincent Torri
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Ruben Van Boxem
 wrote:
> 2012/3/21 Vincent Torri 
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Ruben Van Boxem
>>  wrote:
>> > 2012/3/21 Vincent Torri 
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Christer Solskogen
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> > On 21/3-2012 5:45 PM, Vincent Torri wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> then that's problematic... There is a tool that I don't know what it
>> >> >> does, and setting host will result in failing because of a missing
>> >> >> ***-ar.exe
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > But that's most probably your fault. You have configured binutils
>> >> > wrong,
>> >> > or you don't have binutils at all. If configured and installed
>> >> > correctly
>> >> > you will have ar(or ar.exe) or x86_64-w64-mingw32-ar(if you have
>> >> > installed a cross-binutils).
>> >>
>> >> No, not my fault. I've always used both automatic build and Ruben's
>> >> build before his last release. It always worked fine.
>> >>
>> >> I used the last one, boum error.
>> >
>> >
>> > What tool are you talking about, what build system is failing, etc..?
>> > You're
>> > not giving us anything to work with here. If you give details,
>> > preferably
>> > stuff I/we can try to reproduce, I/we could help you. The fact remains
>> > that
>> > your story does not make any sense, and I think an unexpected operator
>> > error
>> > has snuck in. (Reproducible) Details would clarify.
>>
>> my original mail :
>>
>> "in x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc-4.7.0-3_rubenvb.7z, ar.exe is also named
>> x86_64-w64-mingw32-gcc-ar.exe and not x86_64-w64-mingw32-ar.exe. Is it
>> normal ?"
>>
>> did you read it ?
>
>
> No need to get snide. I read each of your emails, and even replied to most
> of them. Did you read my answers?
>
> The only concrete example of a failing project you gave, was binutils,

it's the only concrete project that failed because it was the first
one i tried with your mingw-w64 build... See below.

> which
> as Kai and I pointed out, you misconfigured by not specifying the "--build"
> option, implicitely telling autotools you were cross-compiling, resulting in
> it wanting a "-ar". Nowhere in that little story did any reference
> to any "-gcc-ar" ever pop up. Autotools doesn't even check for such
> an executable.

of course it does !

i took one of my libs that i cross often compile. I configured it in
MSYS by setting --host=i686-w64-mingw32

result:

checking for i686-w64-mingw32-ar... no
checking for ar... ar

So it does check for i686-w64-mingw32-ar...

I've used cross compilation with mingw-w64 for several years, i've
never had such problems, until your build. Now if you think that your
gcc 4.7 build is fine, no problem, i'll use another one (4.6.2, as it
works).

Vincent

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Re: [Mingw-w64-public] wrong ar.exe name in ruben's build ?

2012-03-21 Thread Christer Solskogen
On 21/3-2012 8:46 PM, Vincent Torri wrote:

>> as Kai and I pointed out, you misconfigured by not specifying the "--build"
>> option, implicitely telling autotools you were cross-compiling, resulting in
>> it wanting a "-ar". Nowhere in that little story did any reference
>> to any "-gcc-ar" ever pop up. Autotools doesn't even check for such
>> an executable.
>
> of course it does !
>

No, it does not.

> i took one of my libs that i cross often compile. I configured it in
> MSYS by setting --host=i686-w64-mingw32
>
> result:
>
> checking for i686-w64-mingw32-ar... no
> checking for ar... ar
>
> So it does check for i686-w64-mingw32-ar...
>

And Ruben just told you that it does not check for i686-w64-mingw32-gcc-ar.

Forget about *-gcc-ar already! And no, ar and gcc-ar is not the same 
thing even if you want it to.

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Re: [Mingw-w64-public] wrong ar.exe name in ruben's build ?

2012-03-21 Thread Kai Tietz
2012/3/21 Christer Solskogen :
> On 21/3-2012 8:46 PM, Vincent Torri wrote:
>
>>> as Kai and I pointed out, you misconfigured by not specifying the "--build"
>>> option, implicitely telling autotools you were cross-compiling, resulting in
>>> it wanting a "-ar". Nowhere in that little story did any reference
>>> to any "-gcc-ar" ever pop up. Autotools doesn't even check for such
>>> an executable.
>>
>> of course it does !
>>
>
> No, it does not.
>
>> i took one of my libs that i cross often compile. I configured it in
>> MSYS by setting --host=i686-w64-mingw32
>>
>> result:
>>
>> checking for i686-w64-mingw32-ar... no
>> checking for ar... ar
>>
>> So it does check for i686-w64-mingw32-ar...
>>
>
> And Ruben just told you that it does not check for i686-w64-mingw32-gcc-ar.
>
> Forget about *-gcc-ar already! And no, ar and gcc-ar is not the same
> thing even if you want it to.
>
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There are actual more of those -gcc-* executables.
Namely
-gcc-ar.exe
-gcc-nm.exe
-gcc-ranlib.exe

The are generated by plugin-feature.  Simply ignore them,  I don't
expect that you might actaul want them to use.

Kai

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Re: [Mingw-w64-public] wrong ar.exe name in ruben's build ?

2012-03-21 Thread Vincent Torri
On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Christer Solskogen
 wrote:
> On 21/3-2012 8:46 PM, Vincent Torri wrote:
>
>>> as Kai and I pointed out, you misconfigured by not specifying the "--build"
>>> option, implicitely telling autotools you were cross-compiling, resulting in
>>> it wanting a "-ar". Nowhere in that little story did any reference
>>> to any "-gcc-ar" ever pop up. Autotools doesn't even check for such
>>> an executable.
>>
>> of course it does !
>>
>
> No, it does not.
>
>> i took one of my libs that i cross often compile. I configured it in
>> MSYS by setting --host=i686-w64-mingw32
>>
>> result:
>>
>> checking for i686-w64-mingw32-ar... no
>> checking for ar... ar
>>
>> So it does check for i686-w64-mingw32-ar...
>>
>
> And Ruben just told you that it does not check for i686-w64-mingw32-gcc-ar.

ok, i misread that.

Anyway, the fact that i686-w64-mingw32-ar is missing  *is* a problem


i stop that conversation, now, it goes nowhere

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Re: [Mingw-w64-public] wrong ar.exe name in ruben's build ?

2012-03-21 Thread Kai Tietz
2012/3/21 Vincent Torri :
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Christer Solskogen
>  wrote:
>> On 21/3-2012 8:46 PM, Vincent Torri wrote:
>>
 as Kai and I pointed out, you misconfigured by not specifying the "--build"
 option, implicitely telling autotools you were cross-compiling, resulting 
 in
 it wanting a "-ar". Nowhere in that little story did any reference
 to any "-gcc-ar" ever pop up. Autotools doesn't even check for such
 an executable.
>>>
>>> of course it does !
>>>
>>
>> No, it does not.
>>
>>> i took one of my libs that i cross often compile. I configured it in
>>> MSYS by setting --host=i686-w64-mingw32
>>>
>>> result:
>>>
>>> checking for i686-w64-mingw32-ar... no
>>> checking for ar... ar
>>>
>>> So it does check for i686-w64-mingw32-ar...
>>>
>>
>> And Ruben just told you that it does not check for i686-w64-mingw32-gcc-ar.
>
> ok, i misread that.
>
> Anyway, the fact that i686-w64-mingw32-ar is missing  *is* a problem
>
>
> i stop that conversation, now, it goes nowhere

Ok, but please remember about the advice of using --build option here
for binutils.  As I assume you have instead build native ar.exe etc.

Kai

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Re: [Mingw-w64-public] wrong ar.exe name in ruben's build ?

2012-03-22 Thread Christer Solskogen
On 21/3-2012 10:00 PM, Vincent Torri wrote:

> Anyway, the fact that i686-w64-mingw32-ar is missing  *is* a problem
>

That is true :-) Try downloading Rubens build again and unpack it with a 
decent zipper (7z/pk7zip for example)

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