keynote.{1,3,4,5}

2007-08-01 Thread giovanni
old link does not work

-.Pa http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~keynote
+.Pa http://www1.cs.columbia.edu/~angelos/keynote.html

-- 
giovanni



Missing x*42.tgz installation file sets from i386 binary snapshots

2007-08-01 Thread Adriaan
There are no X installation file sets for i386 snapshots.

From ftp.openbsd.org .
-
   100767 Jul 31 14:03 INSTALL.i386
22354 Jul 31 14:03 INSTALL.linux
 1019 Jul 31 14:03 MD5
 42575374 Jul 31 14:03 base42.tgz
  6208870 Jul 31 14:03 bsd
  6258748 Jul 31 14:03 bsd.mp
  5064469 Jul 31 14:03 bsd.rd
  5181440 Jul 31 14:03 cd42.iso
44404 Jul 31 14:03 cdboot
 2048 Jul 31 14:03 cdbr
  3012608 Jul 31 14:03 cdemu42.iso
  2949120 Jul 31 14:03 cdrom42.fs
 78810553 Jul 31 14:03 comp42.tgz
  1240527 Jul 31 14:03 etc42.tgz
  1474560 Jul 31 14:03 floppy42.fs
  1474560 Jul 31 14:03 floppyB42.fs
  1474560 Jul 31 14:03 floppyC42.fs
  2608726 Jul 31 14:03 game42.tgz
  203 Jul 26 04:05 index.txt
  7660968 Jul 31 14:03 man42.tgz
  2292928 Jul 31 14:03 misc42.tgz
52928 Jul 31 14:03 pxeboot

There are X file sets for amd64:

79894 Jul 31 14:03 INSTALL.amd64
  804 Jul 31 14:03 MD5
[snip]
  2292863 Jul 31 14:03 misc42.tgz
52916 Jul 31 14:03 pxeboot
 13392534 Jul 26 09:06 xbase42.tgz
78273 Jul 26 09:06 xetc42.tgz
 35579383 Jul 26 09:06 xfont42.tgz
 11237299 Jul 26 09:06 xserv42.tgz
  2547144 Jul 26 09:06 xshare42.tgz
---
For sparc and sparc64, the situation is similar, the 64 bits arch has
X file sets, while the 32 bit arch has not ;)

=Adriaan=



Re: OT: mail retrieval software

2007-08-01 Thread Tom
I highly recommend mail/fdm

On 31/07/07, Andy Hayward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 31/07/07, poncenby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Grateful if anyone could recommend a mail retrieval program which does
  not require a local SMTP service like fetchmail does.

 Try 'getmail'.

 -- ach



sudo/env_keep/pkg_add

2007-08-01 Thread Stuart Henderson
Does anyone feel it would be useful to add PKG_PATH to the
default env_keep for sudo? Otherwise there are going to be an
awful lot of pkg_add is broken posts...



Re: Missing x*42.tgz installation file sets from i386 binary snapshots

2007-08-01 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Adriaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 There are no X installation file sets for i386 snapshots.

Don't slashdot it just yet.  I think we can be reasonably sure that
even on i386, OpenBSD 4.2 will ship with installable X binaries.  For
one reason or the other the x* parts did not get built or at least did
not make it onto the FTP servers.  I'd wait a few days and enjoy the
new, improved ones when they do appear.

- P
-- 
Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team
http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/
Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic
delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.



Re: sudo/env_keep/pkg_add

2007-08-01 Thread Todd C. Miller
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
so spake Stuart Henderson (stu):

 Does anyone feel it would be useful to add PKG_PATH to the
 default env_keep for sudo? Otherwise there are going to be an
 awful lot of pkg_add is broken posts...

Since that is OpenBSD-specific I don't think it makes sense
to hard-code it into sudo.   However, we can certainly
add it to the default sudoers file.

 - todd



Re: Missing x*42.tgz installation file sets from i386 binary snapshots

2007-08-01 Thread Adriaan
On 8/1/07, Peter N. M. Hansteen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Adriaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  There are no X installation file sets for i386 snapshots.

 Don't slashdot it just yet.  I think we can be reasonably sure that
 even on i386, OpenBSD 4.2 will ship with installable X binaries.  For
 one reason or the other the x* parts did not get built or at least did
 not make it onto the FTP servers.  I'd wait a few days and enjoy the
 new, improved ones when they do appear.


I regulary test binary snapshots and packages. I just wanted to report
something  like I did with
http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=118550373919943w=2 .Just wondered
if they could be related, or whether it was a mirroring issue.

With the dependency of some packages on the expat XML parser f in
xbase42.tgz, you really cannot some install somel binary snaphots
packages when xbase42.tgz isn't there

=Adriaan=



Re: OT: mail retrieval software

2007-08-01 Thread Charles Longeau
Hi,

 Grateful if anyone could recommend a mail retrieval program which does
 not require a local SMTP service like fetchmail does.

From the fetchmail man page :
   -m command | --mda command
  (Keyword: mda) You can force mail to be  passed  to
  an  MDA directly (rather than forwarded to port 25)
  with the --mda or -m option.

Best regards,

Charles Longeau



Re: OT: mail retrieval software

2007-08-01 Thread Brian Candler
On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 09:59:23PM +0100, poncenby wrote:
 Grateful if anyone could recommend a mail retrieval program which does 
 not require a local SMTP service like fetchmail does.

From 'man fetchmail':

   -m command | --mda command
  (Keyword:  mda)  You  can  force  mail  to  be  passed to an MDA
  directly (rather than forwarded to port 25) with the --mda or -m
  option.   ... snip rest of description ...



carp: knocked out by adding cables?

2007-08-01 Thread Jacob Yocom-Piatt
i was redoing some ethernet cabling in the office and made 2 connections 
between 2 switches before i pulled one connection. shortly after 
plugging in the second cable the pair of webservers that use carp sans 
preemption got confused, causing a failover to the backup machine.


here is a quick clarification of the cabling

switch 1A---switch 2
\--B--/


where making connection B caused the drama. switch 1 is a nice managed 
switch and switch 2 is a random POS.


is this the expected behavior with carp when a cabling topology like 
this comes up sans trunking, etc? clues about what happened would be great.


cheers,
jake



Re: carp: knocked out by adding cables?

2007-08-01 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 08:00:26AM -0500, Jacob Yocom-Piatt wrote:
 i was redoing some ethernet cabling in the office and made 2 connections 
 between 2 switches before i pulled one connection. shortly after 
 plugging in the second cable the pair of webservers that use carp sans 
 preemption got confused, causing a failover to the backup machine.
 
 here is a quick clarification of the cabling
 
 switch 1A---switch 2
 \--B--/
 
 
 where making connection B caused the drama. switch 1 is a nice managed 
 switch and switch 2 is a random POS.
 
 is this the expected behavior with carp when a cabling topology like 
 this comes up sans trunking, etc? clues about what happened would be great.
 

You created a loop in the L2 broadcast domain and because carp is using
multicast for the hellos you had a nice network meltdown (maybe your
managed switch was realizing that and blocked the traffic).

-- 
:wq Claudio



Re: carp: knocked out by adding cables?

2007-08-01 Thread Timo Schoeler

thus Jacob Yocom-Piatt spake:
i was redoing some ethernet cabling in the office and made 2 connections 
between 2 switches before i pulled one connection. shortly after 
plugging in the second cable the pair of webservers that use carp sans 
preemption got confused, causing a failover to the backup machine.


here is a quick clarification of the cabling

switch 1A---switch 2
\--B--/


where making connection B caused the drama. switch 1 is a nice managed 
switch and switch 2 is a random POS.


is this the expected behavior with carp when a cabling topology like 
this comes up sans trunking, etc? clues about what happened would be great.


cheers,
jake


Since 'A' is a managed switch: What about STP (Spanning Tree, 802.1D), 
is it enabled? Is 'A' the root bridge (should be, if it's the only one)?


Timo



regular user can't login in with xdm

2007-08-01 Thread ambrosehuang ambrose
Hello, guys, When I finished installing the OpenBSD 4.1 on my thinkpad
T43, I changed the xdm_config=NO to xdm_config=  in the
/etc/rc.conf.local, but as a regular user I can't login in with xdm ,
it said incorrect login on the login window of xdm ; as root I can
login , but  I can  get my shell profile /root/.bash_profile used (
the PS1 variable I set in the .bash_profile didn't take effect). I
search the maillist archive , and find similar problem in OpenBSD 2.8,
but no answer. Does anyone know  how to solve this problem ?



Re: carp: knocked out by adding cables?

2007-08-01 Thread Jacob Yocom-Piatt

Claudio Jeker wrote:

On Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 08:00:26AM -0500, Jacob Yocom-Piatt wrote:
  

here is a quick clarification of the cabling

switch 1A---switch 2
\--B--/


where making connection B caused the drama. switch 1 is a nice managed 
switch and switch 2 is a random POS.


is this the expected behavior with carp when a cabling topology like 
this comes up sans trunking, etc? clues about what happened would be great.





You created a loop in the L2 broadcast domain and because carp is using
multicast for the hellos you had a nice network meltdown (maybe your
managed switch was realizing that and blocked the traffic).

  


timo, i don't have STP enabled. dunno much about it besides that i don't 
use it :).


ah, thanks for clearing that up, claudio. that was my guess: the carp 
multicasts got looped.


cheers,
jake



Re: Missing x*42.tgz installation file sets from i386 binary snapshots

2007-08-01 Thread vladas
 With the dependency of some packages on the expat XML parser f in
 xbase42.tgz, you really cannot some install somel binary snaphots
 packages when xbase42.tgz isn't there

Did you try AnonCVS? Works (around 30th) for me.



Re: Missing x*42.tgz installation file sets from i386 binary snapshots

2007-08-01 Thread Heinrich Rebehn

Adriaan wrote:

On 8/1/07, Peter N. M. Hansteen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Adriaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


There are no X installation file sets for i386 snapshots.

Don't slashdot it just yet.  I think we can be reasonably sure that
even on i386, OpenBSD 4.2 will ship with installable X binaries.  For
one reason or the other the x* parts did not get built or at least did
not make it onto the FTP servers.  I'd wait a few days and enjoy the
new, improved ones when they do appear.



I regulary test binary snapshots and packages. I just wanted to report
something  like I did with
http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=118550373919943w=2 .Just wondered
if they could be related, or whether it was a mirroring issue.

With the dependency of some packages on the expat XML parser f in
xbase42.tgz, you really cannot some install somel binary snaphots
packages when xbase42.tgz isn't there

=Adriaan=



Aaahhh! That's why i cannot install bash under snapshot!

--Heinrich



Re: Missing x*42.tgz installation file sets from i386 binary snapshots

2007-08-01 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
vladas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Did you try AnonCVS? Works (around 30th) for me.

cvs works, but if you build the system yourself, you're not actually
testing snapshots anymore.  I think that's what OP wanted to do.
Install snapshots fresh, report if there's breakage.  

Other lazy bastards tend to just U)pgrade between snaps.

-- 
Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team
http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/
Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic
delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.



Re: OT: mail retrieval software

2007-08-01 Thread Ryan McBride
On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 09:59:23PM +0100, poncenby wrote:
 Grateful if anyone could recommend a mail retrieval program which does 
 not require a local SMTP service like fetchmail does.

How about fetchmail? (with procmail / maildrop / whatever)

poll mailserver protocol imap service 993:
username mcbride there has password mekmitasdigoat is mcbride here 
fetchall ssl mda /usr/local/bin/procmail -d %T



Re: Missing x*42.tgz installation file sets from i386 binary snapshots

2007-08-01 Thread Adriaan
On 8/1/07, vladas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 8/1/07, Peter N. M. Hansteen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  vladas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   Did you try AnonCVS? Works (around 30th) for me.
 
  cvs works, but if you build the system yourself, you're not actually
  testing snapshots anymore.  I think that's what OP wanted to do.
  Install snapshots fresh, report if there's breakage.

 Point taken. My bad.


Correct, I wanted to test the latest snapshot and some packages ;).

And sometimes there are modifications in snapshots that should be tested.

From http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=118056376719177w=2

  The most recent i386 snapshot contains 45 modified files which are
  not yet commited.

So compiling from checked out souirce, wouldl never test these not yet
committed experimental features.

[snip]

=Adriaan=



Re: Firewall, high interrupt load, is this a driver problem (dc) ?

2007-08-01 Thread Aaron Glenn
On 7/31/07, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 numbers above are from 4.1. -current should behave significantly better.


Have hardware recommendations changed at all? Any specific
north/southbridges or NICs person should be looking at?

thanks,
aaron



Re: regular user can't login in with xdm

2007-08-01 Thread Jim Razmus
* ambrosehuang ambrose [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070801 09:53]:
 Hello, guys, When I finished installing the OpenBSD 4.1 on my thinkpad
 T43, I changed the xdm_config=NO to xdm_config=  in the
 /etc/rc.conf.local, but as a regular user I can't login in with xdm ,
 it said incorrect login on the login window of xdm ; as root I can
 login , but  I can  get my shell profile /root/.bash_profile used (
 the PS1 variable I set in the .bash_profile didn't take effect). I
 search the maillist archive , and find similar problem in OpenBSD 2.8,
 but no answer. Does anyone know  how to solve this problem ?
 

Turn off xdm.  Boot the machine and try logging in as the user in
question.  If that works, try running startx next.

These steps may yeild some more illuminating information to help you
diagnose the problem.

Jim



Re: Laptop death...

2007-08-01 Thread The King of Norway
Apologies for reviving an old post. If anyone is interested, there's a 
discussion on this topic at the OpenBSD Journal.


http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=articlesid=20070727210751

The article includes Paypal details.

Sean.

Tobias Weingartner wrote:

Hi all,

I hate doing this, but I'm in a tiny bit of a bind.  I'm in need of a
new laptop.  My old IBM T40p is slowly giving up the ghost after 5+
years of faithful service.  As this is my main terminal to hack on and
do everything I do on a computer, it's impending doom will significantly
affect me.

I've looked at the options available, and there really are not that many.
I know that there are *lots* of laptops out there that would work, but I
am somewhat particular in what I get next.  At the current time I'm looking
at buying:

  26238YU - T60P CD/2.0 1GB 100GB 14.1 SXGA+ DVDR WLS BT DOS
  Rough Price: $1,645.99 - $1,878.99

Along with this comes taxes and shipping, etc.  Unfortunately my current
financial situation is that I can only afford to spend $400-$500 dollars
on this.  Is there anyone out there that could help me out with the rest?


Thanks a lot,

--Toby.




Re: Laptop death...

2007-08-01 Thread Jack J. Woehr

The King of Norway wrote:


  26238YU - T60P CD/2.0 1GB 100GB 14.1 SXGA+ DVDR WLS BT DOS
  Rough Price: $1,645.99 - $1,878.99

Paypal sent.

--
Jack J. Woehr
Director of Development
Absolute Performance, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
303-443-7000 ext. 527



Re: regular user can't login in with xdm

2007-08-01 Thread Edd Barrett
On 01/08/07, ambrosehuang ambrose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello, guys, When I finished installing the OpenBSD 4.1 on my thinkpad
 T43, I changed the xdm_config=NO

Why?

I have never needed to. Dees it work without?

-- 
Best Regards

Edd

---
http://students.dec.bournemouth.ac.uk/ebarrett



Re: regular user can't login in with xdm

2007-08-01 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi,

ambrosehuang ambrose wrote on Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 03:46:16PM +0800:

 When I finished installing the OpenBSD 4.1 on my thinkpad
 T43, I changed the xdm_config=NO to xdm_config=  in the
 /etc/rc.conf.local,

You changed 'xdm_flags=NO' to 'xdm_flags=' in /etc/rc.conf(8),
didn't you?  At least that's the standard way to enable xdm(1).

 but as a regular user I can't login in with xdm,
 it said incorrect login on the login window of xdm;
 as root I can login,

Perhaps you have a german keyboard connected but no XkbLayout
configured for your keyboard(4) in /etc/X11/xorg.conf(5), and
your user password contains one of the characters Y or Z,
while your root password doesn't?

Of course, that's just guesswork, you could as well have different
problems - but wrong keyboard layout is indeed notorious for
preventing xdm login.



Re: Laptop death...

2007-08-01 Thread Mike Erdely
On Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 06:57:53PM +0100, The King of Norway wrote:
 Apologies for reviving an old post. If anyone is interested, there's a 
 discussion on this topic at the OpenBSD Journal.
 http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=articlesid=20070727210751

Thanks for all of the donations!  We've gotten enough to get a laptop:
http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=articlesid=20070727210751mode=expanded

-ME



Re: Laptop death...

2007-08-01 Thread yakov . zaytsev
This is really bad that your laptop is dead..

but I personally always wonder how it can be that such over-qualified person
can't even earn enough money for a laptop?! I mean it's not a airplane...
I'm not a super hacker but I was able to get money to buy a pretty
PowerBook5,7 when I needed it...

What's wrong with you guys?! :)

..or maybe it's a religious question not to get a real job..

Really interesting, I don't mean that we must not help each other of-course.

Happy hacking,

On 7/28/07, Tobias Weingartner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,

 I hate doing this, but I'm in a tiny bit of a bind.  I'm in need of a
 new laptop.  My old IBM T40p is slowly giving up the ghost after 5+
 years of faithful service.  As this is my main terminal to hack on and
 do everything I do on a computer, it's impending doom will significantly
 affect me.

 I've looked at the options available, and there really are not that many.
 I know that there are *lots* of laptops out there that would work, but I
 am somewhat particular in what I get next.  At the current time I'm
 looking
 at buying:

   26238YU - T60P CD/2.0 1GB 100GB 14.1 SXGA+ DVDR WLS BT DOS
   Rough Price: $1,645.99 - $1,878.99

 Along with this comes taxes and shipping, etc.  Unfortunately my current
 financial situation is that I can only afford to spend $400-$500 dollars
 on this.  Is there anyone out there that could help me out with the rest?


 Thanks a lot,

 --Toby.



Re: Laptop death...

2007-08-01 Thread yakov . zaytsev
This is really bad that your laptop is dead..

but I personally always wonder how it can be that such over-qualified person
can't even earn enough damn money for a laptop?! I mean it's not a
airplane... I'm not a super hacker but I was able to get money to buy a
pretty PowerBook5,7 when I needed it...

What's wrong with you guys?! :)

..or maybe it's a religious question not to get a real job..

Really interesting, I don't mean that we must not help each other of-course.

Happy hacking,

On 7/28/07, Tobias Weingartner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,

 I hate doing this, but I'm in a tiny bit of a bind.  I'm in need of a
 new laptop.  My old IBM T40p is slowly giving up the ghost after 5+
 years of faithful service.  As this is my main terminal to hack on and
 do everything I do on a computer, it's impending doom will significantly
 affect me.

 I've looked at the options available, and there really are not that many.
 I know that there are *lots* of laptops out there that would work, but I
 am somewhat particular in what I get next.  At the current time I'm
 looking
 at buying:

   26238YU - T60P CD/2.0 1GB 100GB 14.1 SXGA+ DVDR WLS BT DOS
   Rough Price: $1,645.99 - $1,878.99

 Along with this comes taxes and shipping, etc.  Unfortunately my current
 financial situation is that I can only afford to spend $400-$500 dollars
 on this.  Is there anyone out there that could help me out with the rest?


 Thanks a lot,

 --Toby.



Re: Laptop death...

2007-08-01 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 12:59:03AM +0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is really bad that your laptop is dead..
 
 but I personally always wonder how it can be that such over-qualified person
 can't even earn enough damn money for a laptop?! I mean it's not a
 airplane... I'm not a super hacker but I was able to get money to buy a
 pretty PowerBook5,7 when I needed it...

At the risk of feeding the troll...

Here's a guy that works for free on a free operating system that many
thousands of individuals, and many companies, use for their desktop,
infrastructure, and public-facing servers. If the computer this guy is
using is in trouble, I'm very happy to help as I can to get him a new
one.

Look at the commits for toby@, and I think you'll find it was worth
sending him a little money.

 What's wrong with you guys?! :)

Look in a mirror when you ask that! :)

Really, it's in our own interest to support these people.

-- 
Darrin Chandler|  Phoenix BSD User Group  |  MetaBUG
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   |  http://phxbug.org/  |  http://metabug.org/
http://www.stilyagin.com/  |  Daemons in the Desert   |  Global BUG Federation



Re: Laptop death...

2007-08-01 Thread Tobias Weingartner
On Thursday, August 2, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 This is really bad that your laptop is dead..

It is unfortunate that it happened now.  The timing sucks.

 but I personally always wonder how it can be that such over-qualified person
 can't even earn enough damn money for a laptop?! I mean it's not a
 airplane... I'm not a super hacker but I was able to get money to buy a
 pretty PowerBook5,7 when I needed it...

Ahh, I shouldn't respond... I really shouldn't.  Seriously, I tend to buy
my own way most places.  Unfortunately, this time lady luck decided to
abandon me at a rather inconvenient time.  My financial resources (yes, I
have a job) were busy fixing other things.  As such, my dead laptop will
basically mean that I would not have had access to a hacking laptop for
roughly 2-3 months.  This would be ok except for the fact that several of
us have been having mini hackathons on a weekly basis, and I'd like to
keep going to them (and being more productive than a pop/food server).

[rest snipped]

--Toby.



Re: Laptop death...

2007-08-01 Thread Miod Vallat
 This is really bad that your laptop is dead..
 
 but I personally always wonder how it can be that such over-qualified person
 can't even earn enough money for a laptop?! I mean it's not a airplane...
 I'm not a super hacker but I was able to get money to buy a pretty
 PowerBook5,7 when I needed it...
 
 What's wrong with you guys?! :)

I am an OpenBSD developer, and I know Tobias. I have a pretty good grasp
of how much time he spends on OpenBSD, as opposed to family life or
other, non-computing, real life issues.

Even though my area of work and Toby's are pretty orthogonal and we
don't happen to talk much about code (because we are working on pretty
different areas), I know he's a skilled person and his advice is always
good to hear.

So, even though his day job might be able to pay for a new laptop, I
don't really care about this when he is asking for help getting a new
one.

I know what's he's being capable of, and - as far as I am concerned -
this is more than I need to know to decide to jump in and give some
help.

Miod (who has a dayjob which allows him to afford a new laptop every
few months, but nobody's making old iron based laptops anymore)



Re: regular user can't login in with xdm

2007-08-01 Thread Edd Barrett
On 01/08/07, Ingo Schwarze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You changed 'xdm_flags=NO' to 'xdm_flags=' in /etc/rc.conf(8),
 didn't you?  At least that's the standard way to enable xdm(1).

And all this time I have been editting /etc/ttys :P

You learn something new every day.

-- 
Best Regards

Edd

---
http://students.dec.bournemouth.ac.uk/ebarrett



Re: Laptop death...

2007-08-01 Thread Diana Eichert

On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, Miod Vallat wrote:
SNIP

Miod (who has a dayjob which allows him to afford a new laptop every
few months, but nobody's making old iron based laptops anymore)


I should go out in the garage, oops it's not built yet, and make you
a nice portable wood case for a Plextor. :-)  Then you can have a
foot rest when you're working on your laptop.

diana



Re: Laptop death...

2007-08-01 Thread Floor Terra

Are you asking why someone who spends so much time helping others
(probably you too, you use OpenBSD right?) does not get a real job?!


Floor Terra


On 1-aug-2007, at 23:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


This is really bad that your laptop is dead..

but I personally always wonder how it can be that such over- 
qualified person
can't even earn enough money for a laptop?! I mean it's not a  
airplane...

I'm not a super hacker but I was able to get money to buy a pretty
PowerBook5,7 when I needed it...

What's wrong with you guys?! :)

..or maybe it's a religious question not to get a real job..

Really interesting, I don't mean that we must not help each other  
of-course.


Happy hacking,

On 7/28/07, Tobias Weingartner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi all,

I hate doing this, but I'm in a tiny bit of a bind.  I'm in need of a
new laptop.  My old IBM T40p is slowly giving up the ghost after 5+
years of faithful service.  As this is my main terminal to hack on  
and
do everything I do on a computer, it's impending doom will  
significantly

affect me.

I've looked at the options available, and there really are not  
that many.
I know that there are *lots* of laptops out there that would work,  
but I

am somewhat particular in what I get next.  At the current time I'm
looking
at buying:

  26238YU - T60P CD/2.0 1GB 100GB 14.1 SXGA+ DVDR WLS BT DOS
  Rough Price: $1,645.99 - $1,878.99

Along with this comes taxes and shipping, etc.  Unfortunately my  
current
financial situation is that I can only afford to spend $400-$500  
dollars
on this.  Is there anyone out there that could help me out with  
the rest?



Thanks a lot,

--Toby.




Re: ppp logging?

2007-08-01 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Thursday 26 July 2007, J.D. Bronson wrote:
 At 06:33 AM 07/26/2007, J.D. Bronson wrote:
 I am running 4.1-STABLE and having issues with ppp logging.
 
 I created /var/log/ppp.log and nothing will log to it
 when ppp runs (userland pppoe).
 
 My ppp.conf file contains the normal stuff:
 
 default:
   set log Phase Chat IPCP CCP tun command
   set redial 5 1
   set reconnect 5 1
 
 att:
   set device !/usr/sbin/pppoe -i hme0
   set mtu max 1492
   set speed sync
 ...
 ...
 
 It appears to be logging to /var/log/daemon
 (thanks to daemon.info  - /var/log/daemon in syslog.conf)
 
 but not ppp.log
 
 What am I missing to log stuff to ppp.log??
 
 -JD

 I did just add this to syslog.conf:

 !ppp
 *.* tab /var/log/ppp.log


 and now, I get logging in ppp.log but ONLY on reboot/shutdown.
 It will not log anything on startup - and all my logging in
 /var/log/daemon for ppp is now only shutdown as well.

 Startup is NOT getting logged

 Help?

 -JD

hi JD,

Having stuff duplicated in /var/log/daemon is normal due to the message
type and notice level. The addition your syslog.conf file is just
telling syslog to *also* log to /var/log/pp.log anything that
matches ppp

Having startup messages not show up in /var/log/ppp.log is not normal. I
suspect either you're not starting ppp properly or you've got
permissions hosed on the log files.

How are you starting ppp? (hopefully through /etc/rc.local).
  # start ppp
  echo ' ppp'
  ppp -auto att
  echo '.'

Though it's a wicked thing to do (loss of logs), as root try:

  # cd /var/log
  # rm daemon
  # rm ppp.log
  # touch daemon
  # touch ppp.log
  # reboot

When rebooted, in both your /var/log/daemon and /var/log/ppp.log you
should see ppp reading it's config file, establishing a connection and
so on.

-jcr



microphone on OpenBSD 4.1 | How to...?

2007-08-01 Thread sebastian . rother
Hello everybody,

I tried to configure a microphone on OpenBSD 4.1 but it seems I'm too dumb
to get it working.

I've read the FAQ (well the manpages where not that helpfull about it) and
configured the settings like descriped:

inputs.mic.mute=on
inputs.mic.preamp=on
inputs.mic.source=mic0
record.source=mic
record.volume=255,255
record.volume.mute=off
record.mic=0
record.mic.mute=off

All I get if I do dd if=/dev/audio of=myvoice.raw is some scrambled sound.
Sounds like the background noise on every Audiodevice just much louder.

I'm sure I miss something but I don't figure out what it is.

My audiodevice is a auvia0.
I tried to play a littlebit with the settings but maybe I fucked something
up...

audioctl -a  mixerctl -a Output:

name=VIA VT8233
version=
config=auvia
encodings=ulinear:8,mulaw:8*,alaw:8*,slinear:8*,slinear_le:16,ulinear_le:16*,slinear_be:16*,ulinear_be:16*
properties=full_duplex,mmap,independent
full_duplex=0
fullduplex=0
blocksize=4800
hiwat=13
lowat=1
monitor_gain=0
mode=
play.rate=48000
play.channels=1
play.precision=8
play.encoding=mulaw
play.gain=127
play.balance=32
play.port=0x0
play.avail_ports=0x0
play.seek=0
play.samples=0
play.eof=0
play.pause=0
play.error=0
play.waiting=0
play.open=0
play.active=0
play.buffer_size=65536
record.rate=48000
record.channels=1
record.precision=8
record.encoding=mulaw
record.gain=191
record.balance=32
record.port=0x1
record.avail_ports=0x7
record.seek=0
record.samples=24000
record.eof=0
record.pause=0
record.error=0
record.waiting=0
record.open=0
record.active=0
record.buffer_size=65536
record.errors=0
outputs.master=199,199
outputs.master.mute=off
outputs.mono=255
outputs.mono.mute=on
outputs.mono.source=mixerout
outputs.headphones=255,255
outputs.headphones.mute=on
outputs.bass=255
outputs.treble=255
inputs.speaker=255
inputs.speaker.mute=off
inputs.phone=191
inputs.phone.mute=on
inputs.mic=191
inputs.mic.mute=on
inputs.mic.preamp=on
inputs.mic.source=mic0
inputs.line=191,191
inputs.line.mute=on
inputs.cd=191,191
inputs.cd.mute=off
inputs.video=191,191
inputs.video.mute=on
inputs.aux=191,191
inputs.aux.mute=on
inputs.dac=191,191
inputs.dac.mute=off
record.source=mic
record.volume=255,255
record.volume.mute=off
record.mic=0
record.mic.mute=off
outputs.loudness=off
outputs.spatial=off
outputs.spatial.center=0
outputs.spatial.depth=0
outputs.surround=255,255
outputs.surround.mute=on
outputs.center=255
outputs.center.mute=on
outputs.lfe=255
outputs.lfe.mute=on
outputs.extamp=off

The only thing wich happens is that the noise gets reduced (but not away)
if I say something into the microphone. But the words I speak wont get
recorded.

It would be great if somebody could point me to my misstake and tell me
how to get it working. :)


Kind regards,
Sebastian



Re: microphone on OpenBSD 4.1 | How to...?

2007-08-01 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 04:57:32AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello everybody,
 
 I tried to configure a microphone on OpenBSD 4.1 but it seems I'm too dumb
 to get it working.

 
 I've read the FAQ (well the manpages where not that helpfull about it) and
 configured the settings like descriped:
 
 inputs.mic.mute=on
 inputs.mic.preamp=on
 inputs.mic.source=mic0
 record.source=mic
 record.volume=255,255
 record.volume.mute=off
 record.mic=0
 record.mic.mute=off

you muted the mic input?  usually you can mute an input and still
recdord it.  I think whether this really works is somewhat hardware/
driver dependent.  at any rate, unmute this until you get something,
then try muting it.

probably record.mic should not be 0.  that looks like a monoaural
volume control.

 All I get if I do dd if=/dev/audio of=myvoice.raw is some scrambled sound.
 Sounds like the background noise on every Audiodevice just much louder.
 
 I'm sure I miss something but I don't figure out what it is.

well, the auvia devices I have don't record at all.  most likely there
is just some input switched with some output, since I have to plug
my speakers into the mic jack to get audio.  still haven't figured that
out yet.

anyway, if the above suggestions don't help, I would also suggest
trying a different encoding, like slinear_le and using /dev/sound
instead of /dev/audio.  mulaw is emulated on auvia.

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Re: Laptop death...

2007-08-01 Thread bofh
On 8/1/07, Floor Terra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Are you asking why someone who spends so much time helping others
 (probably you too, you use OpenBSD right?) does not get a real job?!

Really, the question comes down to:  Should a core openbsd hacker have
to pay for the machine they do openbsd work on?  Now, this person may
have a work computer, but that's for the paying work.  This person may
have his personal computers, but those are for his personal use.  If
he or she does so much work as to need a dedicated computer (and Theo
will definitely speak up, if someone like myself asks for a dedicated
openbsd hacking laptop), who are you to question that?  Seriously.


-- 
This officer's men seem to follow him merely out of idle curiosity.
-- Sandhurst officer cadet evaluation.



flash on OpenBSD!

2007-08-01 Thread Nick Guenther
(this would be ports@ but it's something many people would care about, I think)

I'm reporting that I've got Gnash-0.8
(http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/)  working on OpenBSD. It's really
choppy and doesn't work right on everything, but it's pretty close. In
60% of cases it's workable (and you can shutdown anyone who tries to
tell you OpenBSD can't be a desktop system).

Tonight I was reminded of gnash it and decided to try it.
`pkg_add -iv gnash` indeed installed it, but youtube and even
weebls-stuff.com was very broken. My friend told me that the version
installed was *really* old. So I pkg_delete'd that and boldly just
downloaded the source from a GNU mirror.
`./configure` was unhappy with me, spitting a bunch of errors.
it wanted a bunch of libs I didn't have. One of of them was the
render; it gave an option --enable-renderer=agg to make it use this
alternate renderer and since I'd noticed that agg had been installed
when I first pkg_add'd it i used that. Then it was still unable, and
wanted me to disable klash (which is some kind of KDE crap interface
to it I suppose). I built it and installed it, but the firefox plugin
was in the wrong place so I had to move that too. So, the full
sequence of commands I used:

$ sudo pkg_add -iv agg
$ #[download gnash-0.8.0 from your favourite GNU mirror]
$ tar zxvf gnash-0.8.0.tar.gz
$ cd gnash-0.8.0
$ ./configure --enable-renderer=agg --disable-klash
$ sudo make#I don't know if sudo is needed here
$ sudo make install
$ mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins
$ sudo mv ~/.firefox/plugins/* ~/.mozilla/plugins
$ mozilla-firefox youtube.com  #make sure this actually restarts mozilla

in mozilla you can check the URL about:plugins to see what it knows about gnash.

-Nick



Re: flash on OpenBSD!

2007-08-01 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 11:55:51PM -0400, Nick Guenther wrote:
 (this would be ports@ but it's something many people would care about, I 
 think)

there is a gnash-0.8.0 port in -current.

please use that is you are interested in such things.

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