Re: cdrecord dvd support

2008-11-09 Thread Francisco Valladolid Hdez.
Hi

--- On Sat, 11/8/08, Jesus Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Jesus Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: cdrecord dvd support
 To: misc@openbsd.org
 Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 6:17 PM
 Hi, using stable 4.3.
 
 Does the cdrecord port supports DVD? I have a few
 problems with pipelines and growisofs and cdrecord
 seems to allow them well.

What kinds of problems you have with growisofs ? it work fine for me.

 
 thanks for all
 -Jesus.

Regards.



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Re: Multiple ssl servers on one external IP by using internal addresses?

2008-11-09 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 08:56:02AM -0700, Jeff Ross wrote:
 Hi all,

 I [have] one static IP.

 Here's an ascii diagram:

   | External IP Address
   |
   
   |   |
   |  Qwest Modem  |
   |   |
   _
   |
   |  10.20.30.1--Qwest Internal IP
   |
   |  10.20.30.2--OpenBSD External IP (em0)
   _
   |   |
   |   |
   |  OpenBSD  |
   fxp0 172.16.0.1 |   | fxp1 10.30.50.1 - 10.30.50.19
   |   _  (as aliases)
   |
Internal Lan

 All of my normal non-ssl virtual hosts are on 10.20.30.2.
 mail.openvistas.net is my webmail address, it automatically redirects
 everything to mail.openvistas.net:443.  This has a cert that I bought
 from GoDaddy, and it is working fine.

 My ssl hosts work.openvistas.net and cvs.work.openvistas.net resolve to
 the same IP address as everything else from the internet, but to
 different internal IP addresses beginning at 10.30.50.1 with a split
 horizon DNS setup.  These two use two different self-signed certs, each
 with the correct server name in the cert.

 So, if my understanding about how all this works was correct, I'd think
 that everything should Just Work.  I have one ssl host on the same IP
 with all of the non-ssl hosts, and then the other two are each on their
 own internal IP address.

 And then maybe I'm completely mis-understanding how to run multiple
 internal ssl servers on one external IP address and that it can't be
 done without more external IPs from Qwest.

 Any cluesticks greatly appreciated!

This isn't going to work, or at least not as you try to make it work.

If an SSL client connects to a host, it receives a certificate from the
host containing a hostname. The client may send the hostname (e.g. in a
HTTP request) after the SSL handshake has taken place, but by then it's
far too late to present another certificate.

All this is per-IP, so there is no way you are going to make this work
with only one IP address. There are some tricks, though:
- get a *.openvistas.net certificate. Every host you want clients to
  connect to is covered by that certificate; I'm not sure if Apache can
  be configured to use name-based virtual hosts behind a SSL virtual
  host, but I do believe so - and you could always use e.g. relayd to
  decrypt the stream first.
- use different ports. You could even set up a plain HTTP server that
  redirects http://work.openvistas.net to
  https://work.openvistas.net:8880 or somesuch.
- get more IP adresses.
- *If* you are the only one using the *work.openvistas.net stuff, you
  may consider setting up a VPN instead (OpenBSD's IPsec implementation
  is nice and pretty user-friendly; if you also want to use other OSes,
  OpenVPN may be easier to set up than IPsec.)

Anyway, good luck!

Joachim



Re: halt -p does not power off ThinkPad X61 under 4.4

2008-11-09 Thread David Schulz

Hello,

ok, now i actually have seen the same behavior. Every once in a while 
halt -p does actually power down the machine, maybe 1 times out of 10 
boots. Is there anything we , i, can do to fix it? Or help to fix it?


Thanks a lot,
David



Matthew Szudzik wrote:
i installed OpenBSD 4.4 on my ThinkPad X61, played a little bit, and 
used halt -p to shutdown the machine and walked away. The next morning i 
found that while it appears to have shutdown correctly, the machine did 
not power off but instead showed


syncing disks...done
uchi2: host controller halted

and would just sit there until i manually held the power button. This 



Over the last 6 months I have experienced the same problem 2 or 3 times
with my ThinkPad T60 running OpenBSD 4.3.


!DSPAM:490b0072652028609117844!




Re: nfe0: no link...sleeping

2008-11-09 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2008-11-09, Steven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Please advise how I can wake up my MCP55 on board network interface.
 During installation of AMD64 OpenBSD 4.4 or  i386 OpenBSD 4.3 the 
 network interface does not respond: no link...sleeping.
 The ethernet card is on board NVIDIA MCP55.
 After reboot, I tried to manually configure the card, but I get same 
 response.
 I am very new to OpenBSD.

assuming you have ruled out the common causes (bad network cable,
etc), it seems like it could be a problem with incorrectly detecting
the routing of interrupts on your motherboard. this can be a bit of
a problem on some NVIDIA based machines still.

a couple of things to try:

at the boot loader, boot -c and then at the UKC prompt,
disable acpi and quit, and see if things are any better.
this may make some devices stop working and others start
working, or it may just fix things, or it may not help at all.
you can save this change to a kernel on disk with config(8).

if you're using the bsd kernel, try bsd.mp and vice-versa,
see if there's a difference.

if you can, try and get dmesg and acpidump output from the
machine (USB drive, network if you can get it working, floppy,
serial console, ...) (dmesg inline in email, acpidump is
pretty long and is probably better put on a webserver and
send the URL).



Re: Gateway setup

2008-11-09 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2008-11-08, Alfredo Perez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi

 I have the following configuration

 router/firewall --- OPENBSD BOX - Wireless switch

 Openbsd box has two NICs 

 rl0 connects OPENBSD BOX to router/firewall
 dc0 connects Wireless swith to OPENBSD BOX

 nat.conf shows
 nat on rl0 from dc0/24 to any - rl0

nat.conf went away a long time ago. if you really are using
OpenBSD = 3.1, it should be upgraded before doing anything
else...

if indeed you are using newer OpenBSD you need to find a better
guide to configure it - the FAQ should be your first stop.

but we shouldn't have to guess which version you use - you
should send a dmesg with your question which will include this
information.

 sysctl.conf shows:
 net.inet.ip.forwarding=1

 hostname.dc0 shows:
 inet 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 192.168.255.0

here, both your IP address and broadcast address are bad.
just leave out the broadcast address, the default is good
for almost everyone, and change to a valid IP address
(the current one is the Network address which you can't
use as a Host address).

it might be useful to look at the IP addressing section of
the Network Design chapter in the book Wireless Networking
in the Developing World (ports/books/wndw, various packages
with names starting wndw- for various languages, or just
download it at http://wndw.net).

 hostname.rl0 shows:
 dhcp NONE NONE NONE

 OPENBSD IP is 192.168.0.15 which is given by the router/firewall

 I connect my laptop to the wireless switch
 successfully but I can't go out to the internet.

you don't give any information about the laptop (what address
does it have, how does it get an address etc).

 Cant I get some suggetions on how to solve this problem?

 Thanks

 Alfredo



Re: halt -p does not power off ThinkPad X61 under 4.4

2008-11-09 Thread Sebastian Rother
Hello,

ok, now i actually have seen the same behavior. Every once in a while 
halt -p does actually power down the machine, maybe 1 times out of 10 
boots. Is there anything we , i, can do to fix it? Or help to fix it?

Thanks a lot,
David

Then you propably also noted that mostly if THAT happens apm -C wont do
anything. So the SpeedStep is out of function and the CPU runs on 100%
not matter if you started apmd and used apm -C or not. If you face this
you can kinda ensure that you wont be able to halt -p.

The problem is propably ACPI related but as I talked about this
behavior a while ago I got ignored because nobody had those issues.

Also something I face is that if you do switch offen from X to console
you sometimes have a grafic Bug in the Console. Either a thin line wich
is NOT getting drawed or other things wich are strange somehow.

But switching then Back to X and then again to console fixes this.

The same behavior can get seen at X too (and the same work around works
there as well). So sometimes I simply have some lines at my screen.
If you saw something like that as well it would be nice.


Kind regards,
Sebastian



Re: Multiple ssl servers on one external IP by using internal addresses?

2008-11-09 Thread Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez

El 08/11/2008, a las 10:10 a.m., Chris Miller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribiC3:


 I don't think Apache has support for virtual hosts under SSL.
Everything I have seen assumes there is one IP address per SSL host.




Yes. It has. One SSL certificate per port.


Regards,

Alvaro



Re: Multiple ssl servers on one external IP by using internal addresses?

2008-11-09 Thread stolendata.net
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 4:56 PM, Jeff Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,

 I've got a problem with my web server and ssl that I'm having a hard
 time figuring out.  This might take a while to explain so bail now or
 bear with me ;-)


Example of multiple vhosts sharing a single ip/certificate:
http://sweon.net/2008/01/hosting-multiple-ssl-vhosts-on-a-single-ipportcertificate-with-apache2



Re: Multiple ssl servers on one external IP by using internal addresses?

2008-11-09 Thread Damien Miller
On Sat, 8 Nov 2008, Jeff Ross wrote:

 My ssl hosts work.openvistas.net and cvs.work.openvistas.net resolve
 to the same IP address as everything else from the internet, but to
 different internal IP addresses beginning at 10.30.50.1 with a split
 horizon DNS setup. These two use two different self-signed certs, each
 with the correct server name in the cert.

You can't do this reliably without TLS SNI (Server Name Identification):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Name_Indication

Basically, without SNI the TLS connection is established and the server
certificate is sent before the client sends the hostname. The server
therefore has no way of knowing which certificate to send to the client.
SNI allows the client to request a specific host as part of the TLS
handshake, so the server can select a certificate to send.

Source code to implement SNI is present in OpenBSD -current's OpenSSL
but is disabled. I'll look at turning it on when OpenSSL makes a stable
release with it enabled.

SNI in OpenSSL is only one prerequisite though, it also need to be
supported by Apache or whatever HTTP server you are using. The in-tree
Apache doesn't support SNI, but perhaps apache2 in ports does.

Another problem is that only relatively new browsers support SNI.
Firefox 3 does, but I'm not sure about IE. Non-webkit mobile browsers
are not likely to support it at all. If you care about supporting a
diverse range of clients then SNI may not help you.

-d



4.4 recently installed

2008-11-09 Thread T D
Hi all,

I have installed 4.4 on a machine (ibm aptiva) with the below dmesg output.
As I am somewhat new to this os, I would like some sugestions as to what I
could/should do with this box and no I will not rm -rf /
Any ideas/suggestions greatly apreciated.
Thanks
Tom


OpenBSD 4.4 (GENERIC) #1021: Tue Aug 12 17:16:55 MDT 2008
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel Pentium/MMX (GenuineIntel 586-class) 226 MHz
cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,MMX
cpu0: F00F bug workaround installed
real mem  = 67723264 (64MB)
avail mem = 56033280 (53MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 12/15/98, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd841
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2
apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0x1
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdf40/176 (9 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:01:0 (SiS 85C503 System rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #0 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xc000
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 SiS 5597/5598 Host rev 0x02
pcib0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 SiS 85C503 System rev 0x01
pciide0 at pci0 dev 1 function 1 SiS 5513 EIDE rev 0xd0: 5597/5598: DMA,
channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility
wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: ST310211A
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 9541MB, 19541088 sectors
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets, initiator 7
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: , ATAPI CDROM., 13AY ATAPI 5/cdrom removable
cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
ohci0 at pci0 dev 1 function 2 SiS 5597/5598 USB rev 0x10: irq 10, version
1.0, legacy support
vga1 at pci0 dev 9 function 0 Trident 3DImage 9750 rev 0xf3
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
drm at vga1 unsupported
rl0 at pci0 dev 13 function 0 Realtek 8139 rev 0x10: irq 7, address
00:e0:4c:02:20:ca
rlphy0 at rl0 phy 0: RTL internal PHY
clcs0 at pci0 dev 17 function 0 Cirrus Logic CS4610 SoundFusion rev 0x01:
irq 3
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=0
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=1
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=2
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=3
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=4
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=5
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=6
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=7
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=8
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=9
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=10
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=11
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=12
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=13
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=14
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=15
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=16
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=17
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=18
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=19
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=20
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=21
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=22
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clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=24
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=25
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=26
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=27
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=28
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=29
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=30
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=31
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clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=33
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=34
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=35
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=36
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=37
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=38
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=39
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=40
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=41
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=42
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=43
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=44
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=45
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=46
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=47
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=48
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=49
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=50
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=51
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=52
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=53
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=54
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=55
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=56
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=57
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=58
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=59
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=60
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=61
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=62
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=63
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=64
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=65
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=66
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=67
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=68
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=69
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=70
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=71
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=72
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=73
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=74
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=75
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=76
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=77
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=78
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=79
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=80
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=81
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=82
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=83
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=84
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=85
clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=86
clear_fifo: fist timeout 

browsing ports from the command line

2008-11-09 Thread Marcel Dan
What are the best commands and scripts to browse the ports collection from
the command line?

I've been using, make search key=xyz and the script below to list the
DESCR files.

#!/bin/sh
# filename catdescr.sh
# usage: catdescr.sh directory letter
# catdescr.sh security a  will list the DESCR files
# of ports starting with the letter a
# in the /usr/ports/security directory

if [ ! $1 ]; then
 echo usage: catdescr.sh ports_directory optionanl_letter;
 exit;
fi

for ff in /usr/ports/$1/$2*; do
 echo ;
 echo **  $ff  **;
 echo ;
 cat $ff/pkg/DESCR;
 echo  ;
done



Re: 4.4 recently installed

2008-11-09 Thread new_guy
T D wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I have installed 4.4 on a machine (ibm aptiva) with the below dmesg
 output.
 As I am somewhat new to this os, I would like some sugestions as to what I
 could/should do with this box and no I will not rm -rf /
 Any ideas/suggestions greatly apreciated.
 Thanks
 Tom
 

Are you serious? Let's see... we use OpenBSD for subversion repositories,
web servers, dhcp servers, smtp servers, firewall, Gmail backup, development
workstations, etc. The sky is the limit. If you have no idea what to do with
this operating system, then you have no reason to install it. The least you
could do is take this opportunity (as you already have OpenBSD installed) to
learn a bit about Unix. Read man pages, write shell scripts, learn how to
accomplish common admin tasks, apply patches, etc.

-- 
View this message in context: 
http://www.nabble.com/4.4-recently-installed-tp20412765p20413019.html
Sent from the openbsd user - misc mailing list archive at Nabble.com.



Re: browsing ports from the command line

2008-11-09 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 17:14:02 -0800, Marcel Dan wrote:

What are the best commands and scripts to browse the ports collection from
the command line?


Try this:
cd to /usr/ports
make readmes
(wait for a longish time, ignore errors)
lynx .
--- then:
arrow down to README.html
Follow the links from there 

Good enough for you?

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Re: 4.4 recently installed

2008-11-09 Thread Marcel Dan
In my opinion, OpenBSD is a great desktop OS too.

http://nwvd.net/chess/OpenBSD4.4_screenshot.png

For older laptops the slim login  manager and xfce or fvwm2 work well.

Marcel

On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 4:34 PM, T D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,

 I have installed 4.4 on a machine (ibm aptiva) with the below dmesg output.
 As I am somewhat new to this os, I would like some sugestions as to what I
 could/should do with this box and no I will not rm -rf /
 Any ideas/suggestions greatly apreciated.
 Thanks
 Tom


 OpenBSD 4.4 (GENERIC) #1021: Tue Aug 12 17:16:55 MDT 2008
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
 cpu0: Intel Pentium/MMX (GenuineIntel 586-class) 226 MHz
 cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,MMX
 cpu0: F00F bug workaround installed
 real mem  = 67723264 (64MB)
 avail mem = 56033280 (53MB)
 mainbus0 at root
 bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 12/15/98, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd841
 apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2
 apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown
 pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0x1
 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdf40/176 (9 entries)
 pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:01:0 (SiS 85C503 System rev 0x00)
 pcibios0: PCI bus #0 is the last bus
 bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xc000
 cpu0 at mainbus0
 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
 pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 SiS 5597/5598 Host rev 0x02
 pcib0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 SiS 85C503 System rev 0x01
 pciide0 at pci0 dev 1 function 1 SiS 5513 EIDE rev 0xd0: 5597/5598: DMA,
 channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to
 compatibility
 wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: ST310211A
 wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 9541MB, 19541088 sectors
 wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
 atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets, initiator 7
 cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: , ATAPI CDROM., 13AY ATAPI 5/cdrom
 removable
 cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
 ohci0 at pci0 dev 1 function 2 SiS 5597/5598 USB rev 0x10: irq 10,
 version
 1.0, legacy support
 vga1 at pci0 dev 9 function 0 Trident 3DImage 9750 rev 0xf3
 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
 wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
 drm at vga1 unsupported
 rl0 at pci0 dev 13 function 0 Realtek 8139 rev 0x10: irq 7, address
 00:e0:4c:02:20:ca
 rlphy0 at rl0 phy 0: RTL internal PHY
 clcs0 at pci0 dev 17 function 0 Cirrus Logic CS4610 SoundFusion rev 0x01:
 irq 3
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=0
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=1
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=2
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=3
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=4
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=5
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Re: 4.4 recently installed

2008-11-09 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 04:34:41PM -0800, T D wrote:
 I have installed 4.4 on a machine (ibm aptiva) with the below dmesg output.
 As I am somewhat new to this os, I would like some sugestions as to what I
 could/should do with this box and no I will not rm -rf /
 Any ideas/suggestions greatly apreciated.

My experience on older boxes (older than yours) suggests that your box
would be good for just about anything.  So rather than saying what to
use it for, here's my guess at its limitations:

heavy-duty web browsing (lots of graphics, lots of tabs) needs lots of
memory.  Perhaps add up to the system max (whatever it is on that box).

It probably won't be good at editing video.  I find editing photos
tedius on my 486DX4-100 with 32 MB ram.  You may be OK there.

Put in a couple of big hard drives (I don't know what's there already)
and use it as network storage (backup your other computers).

If you plain don't need the computer and only installed OpenBSD to see
if the box works, then give the box to someone who needs it.

Doug.



quagga-0.99.11

2008-11-09 Thread Felipe Alfaro Solana
Hi misc,

Are there any plans on bumping net/quagga to 0.99.11? I tried to
compile it myself, from the vanilla sources while applying the
following two patches:

patch-configure
patch-zebra_kernel_socket_c

But the resulting zebra daemon always fails with an Abort trap
message. I've seen people reporting this for quagga-0.99.9 and they
claimed that the patch-zebra_kernel_socket_c patch fixes the problem
but apparently it does not work for quagga-0.99.11. Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

-- 
http://www.felipe-alfaro.org/blog/disclaimer/



Re: 4.4 recently installed

2008-11-09 Thread Nick Holland
T D wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I have installed 4.4 on a machine (ibm aptiva) with the below dmesg output.
 As I am somewhat new to this os, I would like some sugestions as to what I
 could/should do with this box and no I will not rm -rf /
 Any ideas/suggestions greatly apreciated.

I presume, your question is, not what can I do with this now
that I have it installed, but rather, how can I fix this
problem:
...
 clcs0 at pci0 dev 17 function 0 Cirrus Logic CS4610 SoundFusion rev 0x01:
 irq 3
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=0
 clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=1
,,,
(and so on annoyingly)

Correct?

If so, the easy way out is probably to use ukc to disable the
clcs0 device (see faq5.html).  You will lose the ability to play
audio on this thing.

(see FAQ 5 for more on using ukc)

I've got an IBM laptop which does this once in a very long while,
I..uh..never thought to let the thing keep counting, I guess I
figured it was probably a really big thing like a 32 bit integer.
Now I guess I look forward to the next time it does it on mine!
Up to this point, because it always happens only when I don't
have time to deal with it, I just shut it off back on, and the
next time, it usually works just fine.

You could also try poking pcibios with various flags (using
ukc again), see if that helps you.  This would allow you to
actually use the sound IF IT WORKS.

As I recall, these Aptiva machines were quirky as heck, on a
LOT of OSs.  From memory, the power management was a bit overly
aggressive, might want to make sure it is COMPLETELY disabled in
the BIOS if you find your machine turning itself off (or some
other form of equally unproductive power savings) in the
middle of work. :)  (On the other hand...you may not see that
problem, I don't recall if I ever ran OpenBSD on an Aptiva of
your vintage...)

hm. speaking of BIOS, might want to dig around in there to see
if there were any options which might have it run better for
you.  Check power management, PNP OS Installed? and things like
that.  Don't ask what the right value is, change what you can
it might help.  or not.

Nick.



Re: 4.4 recently installed

2008-11-09 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 22:39:17 -0500, Nick Holland wrote:

As I recall, these Aptiva machines were quirky as heck, on a
LOT of OSs.

When I taught courses for IBM (Websphere, OS/2, linux, etc) we had lots
of those in classrooms. They usually obtained a prefix CR if you know
what I mean.
{Big evil grin}

I could never figure out how the one company could produce Thinkpads
and cr^H^H Aptivas in the one division. Love my TP.

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Re: Apache 1.3 in base or 2.2.8 from ports ?

2008-11-09 Thread David Schulz
i can also only recommend to stick with the one in base. i never used 
apache2, i was always very happy with apache1.3. there is nothing wrong 
with it.


Francisco Valladolid Hdez. wrote:

--- On Sat, 11/8/08, Marc Balmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

From: Marc Balmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Apache 1.3 in base or 2.2.8 from ports ?
To: Francisco Valladolid Hdez. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: misc@openbsd.org
Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 8:17 AM
* Francisco Valladolid Hdez. wrote:


Hi folks.

I need a recomendation for using one or other web
  

server for a shared web hosting for a small company.


Always prefer using Apache from base, whenever I watch
  

that Apache 2 include best performance compared to 1.3
(included in base), and best reverse proxy for dynamic web
sites.

Which must be the best choice for web hosting company 
  

having web 2.0, mod_perl and rails app's ?

Keep in mind that the Webserver in base has seen a lot of
security and other
improvements like chroot() by default etc.  It is not a
stock 1.3 Apache,
it is only based on Apache 1.3.



Thanks for this suggest!

  

Apache 2 in ports was only imported to make it possible to
test certain
thinks.



Ok

  

If you care for security, go with the one in base.  Huge
and highly loaded
websites are served with it.



I think use the minor posible programs from third party (aka ports), and only 
the necessary, most from base.

  

Regards.


--- 


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earth. Gen. 1:1

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CH-4019 Basel, Switzerland
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we trust, in C we code.




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Re: 4.4 recently installed

2008-11-09 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 10:39:17PM -0500, Nick Holland wrote:
 T D wrote:
  Hi all,
  
  I have installed 4.4 on a machine (ibm aptiva) with the below dmesg output.
  As I am somewhat new to this os, I would like some sugestions as to what I
  could/should do with this box and no I will not rm -rf /
  Any ideas/suggestions greatly apreciated.
 
 I presume, your question is, not what can I do with this now
 that I have it installed, but rather, how can I fix this
 problem:
 ...
  clcs0 at pci0 dev 17 function 0 Cirrus Logic CS4610 SoundFusion rev 0x01:
  irq 3
  clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=0
  clear_fifo: fist timeout cnt=1
 ,,,
 (and so on annoyingly)
 
 Correct?
 
 If so, the easy way out is probably to use ukc to disable the
 clcs0 device (see faq5.html).  You will lose the ability to play
 audio on this thing.

there is also a wss(4) attaching later.  this thing really has two
audio devices?

http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq13.html#audioprob

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Re: Lost my Sensors (or should be senses!) with 4.2

2008-11-09 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
fixed, lm87.c#rev1.20. :)

The bug was caused by an ininitialised value, such that fan sensors in
certain chips (lm81, adm9240 and ds1780) might have pseudo-randomly
never appeared. Just to make it clear -- this was not a regression in
4.2, the fact that it was missing from 4.2 is simply a pseudo-random
occurrence. :)

In any case, the bug should be gone for good, thanks to LLVM/Clang
Static Analyser.

br,
cnst.su.

On 09/11/2007, Simon Slaytor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Folks,

  I've just been upgrading some of our old war horses (Nokia IP440) to 4.2.
 They run Intel made BX PIII chipset motherboards, dmesg below.

  Whilst not extensive the boards do have some sensor data that we grab to
 check on the health of the old girls. After a fresh install of 4.2 I noticed
 we had lost the FAN readout from the list of sensors, see output below
 (taken from different boxes but I've confirmed the loss using the same box
 switching between 4.1 and 4.2).

  Whilst this isn't critical for us on these units whatever is causing the
 omission may have bigger problems for other people so I thought I'd bring it
 to the lists attention.

  Many thanks to all the developers for yet another excellence release in
 4.2, the bulk CD order is going through soon!

  Sensor Output from 4.1 i386 (sysctl -a hw)

  hw.machine=i386
  hw.model=Intel Pentium III (GenuineIntel 686-class)
  hw.ncpu=1
  hw.byteorder=1234
  hw.physmem=267993088
  hw.usermem=267988992
  hw.pagesize=4096
  hw.disknames=wd0,cd0,fd0
  hw.diskcount=3
  hw.sensors.lmenv0.temp1=23.00 degC (Internal)
  *hw.sensors.lmenv0.fan0=2647 RPM *** MISSING ***
  hw.sensors.lmenv0.fan1=3970 RPM * MISSING 
  hw.sensors.lmenv0.volt0=1.52 VDC (+2.5Vin)
  hw.sensors.lmenv0.volt1=1.66 VDC (Vccp)
  hw.sensors.lmenv0.volt2=3.30 VDC (+Vcc)
  hw.sensors.lmenv0.volt3=5.08 VDC (+5Vin/Vcc)
  hw.sensors.lmenv0.volt4=12.38 VDC (+12Vin)
  hw.sensors.lmenv0.volt5=2.43 VDC (Vccp)
  hw.cpuspeed=599
  hw.vendor=Intel Corporation
  hw.product=SE440BX-2
  hw.uuid=ebf758f0-b47b-11d4-af0d-0030d3006ea4

  Sensor Output from 4.2 i386 (sysctl -a hw)

  hw.machine=i386
  hw.model=Intel Pentium III (GenuineIntel 686-class)
  hw.ncpu=1
  hw.byteorder=1234
  hw.physmem=267993088
  hw.usermem=267984896
  hw.pagesize=4096
  hw.disknames=wd0,cd0,fd0
  hw.diskcount=3
  hw.sensors.lmenv0.temp1=28.00 degC (Internal)
  hw.sensors.lmenv0.volt0=1.50 VDC (+2.5Vin)
  hw.sensors.lmenv0.volt1=1.69 VDC (Vccp)
  hw.sensors.lmenv0.volt2=3.27 VDC (+Vcc)
  hw.sensors.lmenv0.volt3=5.05 VDC (+5Vin/Vcc)
  hw.sensors.lmenv0.volt4=12.00 VDC (+12Vin)
  hw.sensors.lmenv0.volt5=2.40 VDC (Vccp)
  hw.sensors.lmenv0.volt6=2.48 VDC (AIN1)
  hw.sensors.lmenv0.volt7=1.66 VDC (AIN2)
  hw.cpuspeed=599
  hw.vendor=Intel Corporation
  hw.product=SE440BX-2
  hw.uuid=82947f19-b652-11d4-b074-0030d3001e5e

  DMESG's

  OpenBSD 4.1 (GENERIC) #1435: Sat Mar 10 19:07:45 MST 2007

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
  cpu0: Intel Pentium III (GenuineIntel 686-class) 599 MHz
  cpu0:
 FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,SER,MMX,FXSR,SSE
  real mem  = 267993088 (261712K)
  avail mem = 236847104 (231296K)
  using 3302 buffers containing 13524992 bytes (13208K) of memory
  mainbus0 (root)
  bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 02/23/00, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd7a0,
 SMBIOS rev. 2.1 @ 0xefbe0 (42 entries)
  bios0: Intel Corporation SE440BX-2
  pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xfd7a0/0x860
  pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdf30/176 (9 entries)
  pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:07:0 (Intel 82371FB ISA rev 0x00)
  pcibios0: PCI bus #2 is the last bus
  bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000 0xe/0x4000! 0xe4000/0xc000
  acpi at mainbus0 not configured
  cpu0 at mainbus0
  pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
  pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82443BX AGP rev 0x03
  ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Intel 82443BX AGP rev 0x03
  pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
  vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 ATI Mach64 GM rev 0x27
  wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
  wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
  pcib0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 Intel 82371AB PIIX4 ISA rev 0x02
  pciide0 at pci0 dev 7 function 1 Intel 82371AB IDE rev 0x01: DMA, channel
 0 wired to compatibility, channel 1 wired to compatibility
  wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: IC35L020AVER07-0
  wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 19623MB, 40188960 sectors
  wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
  atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0
  scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
  cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: TEAC, CD-540E, 1.0A SCSI0 5/cdrom removable
  cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
  uhci0 at pci0 dev 7 function 2 Intel 82371AB USB rev 0x01: irq 9
  usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
  uhub0 at usb0
  uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
  uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
  piixpm0 at pci0 dev 7 function 3 Intel 82371AB Power rev 0x02: 

crashiness when using IPv6 over tun

2008-11-09 Thread Anthony Roberts
I'm using OpenVPN to tunnel IPv6 over a tun interface, and I've noticed
that if there's a local ping going on the box that goes over the interface
when the openvpn process dies, it'll dump the console out to a ddb prompt
and that's it until the watchdog timer runs out.

I am wondering if anyone else has encountered this in other instances, as
an OpenVPN setup specific to me that requires a server is not ideal for
helping someone else reproduce this.

I'm running 4.4 patched to 005 on i386, but I noticed this on 4.3 as well.
I'm using the binary package for openvpn. Hardware is a Soekris net5501.

Cheers,

-Anthony