Re: Transport Mode ipsec(4) and inet6(4) gre(4)

2008-12-25 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Brian A. Seklecki  wrote:

> I haven't looked if we have support, but gre(4) w/ ipv6 address and stf(4) 
> seem to be best options out there for secure v6 tunnels.

That sounds... bizarre.

> I'm wondering if a tranditional ipv6 isakmp(8) ipsec tunnel (using IPv4 
> enpoints?!) is a safe alternative, or what other solutions people are 
> cooking up on OpenBSD for tunneling IPv6 security.

The default encapsulation configured by ipsecctl: ESP in tunnel
mode.

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Re: Running another OS under OpenBSD

2008-12-25 Thread Felipe Alfaro Solana
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 11:13 AM, Henning Brauer wrote:

> * Felipe Alfaro Solana  [2008-12-24 06:17]:
> > > easy - OpenBSD. Linux doesn't have propolice, randomized malloc/mmap,
> > > randomized library addresses etc yadda yadda yadda.
> > RedHat has been shipping a version of glibc that does randomized library
> > addresses for, at least, a year.
>
> wow. one thing out of dozens we do. sure a killer argument.


Who said this is a killer argument? I was just pointing out that nearly any
mainstream OS currently has randomized library address space.


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Re: Transport Mode ipsec(4) and inet6(4) gre(4)

2008-12-25 Thread Brian A. Seklecki

I haven't looked if we have support, but gre(4) w/ ipv6 address and stf(4)
seem to be best options out there for secure v6 tunnels.


That sounds... bizarre.



According to ipv6book.ca, M. Blanchet.  It's a good read, except 
OpenBSD/NetBSD are neglected (probably becase of the stf(4)/6to4(4) 
absence).


He also doesn't talk about _securing_ GRE tunnels, altough the logical 
assumption would be transport mode ipsec between v4 endpoints


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Re: Running another OS under OpenBSD

2008-12-25 Thread Marco Peereboom
> RedHat has been shipping a version of glibc that does randomized library
> addresses for, at least, a year. Libraries have to be compiled with -fPIC,
> however, but that's the case for most. Not sure about other distros.

Right, now tell me again about strl*



Re: Running another OS under OpenBSD

2008-12-25 Thread Felipe Alfaro Solana
On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Marco Peereboom wrote:

> > RedHat has been shipping a version of glibc that does randomized library
> > addresses for, at least, a year. Libraries have to be compiled with
> -fPIC,
> > however, but that's the case for most. Not sure about other distros.
>
> Right, now tell me again about strl*


What's so special about strl*? Anyone can implement it in glibc. But
applications must be changed anyways to use it.

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Re: Running another OS under OpenBSD

2008-12-25 Thread Marco Peereboom
Every non retarded app uses it.  glibc has not support for it because it
wants to make stupid better.

glibc is a total dissaster; I can't remember seeing much worse code.

On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 11:29:46PM -0500, Felipe Alfaro Solana wrote:
>On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Marco Peereboom 
>wrote:
> 
>  > RedHat has been shipping a version of glibc that does randomized
>  library
>  > addresses for, at least, a year. Libraries have to be compiled with
>  -fPIC,
>  > however, but that's the case for most. Not sure about other distros.
> 
>  Right, now tell me again about strl*
> 
>What's so special about strl*? Anyone can implement it in glibc. But
>applications must be changed anyways to use it. 
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