Re: Why I Love Open Source - NSA helped with Windows 7 development
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Felipe Alfaro Solana felipe.alf...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Obiozor Okeke obiozorok...@yahoo.comwrote: From Network World: NSA helped with Windows 7 development Privacy expert voices 'backdoor' concerns, security researchers dismiss idea By Gregg Keizer , Computerworld , 11/18/2009 Why would NSA need backdoors when they have a front-door via DHS, national security and things like that? Same reason there exist unconstitutional congressional acts/bills that allow for secret torture prisons, detention of persons without due process, complete bypassing of fouth and sixth amendments, voiding of the Posse Comitatus Act, etc. etc. ... naive voters like you are the reason we are in this shithole right now. --patrick
Re: Why I Love Open Source - NSA helped with Windows 7 development
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 9:19 AM, patrick keshishian pkesh...@gmail.com wrote: Same reason there exist unconstitutional congressional acts/bills that allow for secret torture prisons, detention of persons without due process, complete bypassing of fouth and sixth amendments, voiding of the Posse Comitatus Act, etc. etc. ... naive voters like you are the reason we are in this shithole right now. You stay classy, misc@
Re: Why I Love Open Source - NSA helped with Windows 7 development
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:19 AM, patrick keshishian pkesh...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Felipe Alfaro Solana felipe.alf...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Obiozor Okeke obiozorok...@yahoo.comwrote: From Network World: NSA helped with Windows 7 development Privacy expert voices 'backdoor' concerns, security researchers dismiss idea By Gregg Keizer , Computerworld , 11/18/2009 Why would NSA need backdoors when they have a front-door via DHS, national security and things like that? Same reason there exist unconstitutional congressional acts/bills that allow for secret torture prisons, detention of persons without due process, complete bypassing of fouth and sixth amendments, voiding of the Posse Comitatus Act, etc. etc. ... naive voters like you are the reason we are in this shithole right now. --patrick The NSA's mandate is to protect American computer systems from attack. It's perfectly reasonable to believe their contributions are honest and legitimate. Note that the NSA's work on DES, which was rumored to have been backdoored by them, actually proved to strengthen it against differential cryptanalysis.
Re: Why I Love Open Source - NSA helped with Windows 7 development
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 03:31:30AM -0500, bsd...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:19 AM, patrick keshishian pkesh...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Felipe Alfaro Solana felipe.alf...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Obiozor Okeke obiozorok...@yahoo.comwrote: From Network World: NSA helped with Windows 7 development Privacy expert voices 'backdoor' concerns, security researchers dismiss idea By Gregg Keizer , Computerworld , 11/18/2009 Why would NSA need backdoors when they have a front-door via DHS, national security and things like that? Same reason there exist unconstitutional congressional acts/bills that allow for secret torture prisons, detention of persons without due process, complete bypassing of fouth and sixth amendments, voiding of the Posse Comitatus Act, etc. etc. ... naive voters like you are the reason we are in this shithole right now. --patrick The NSA's mandate is to protect American computer systems from attack. It's perfectly reasonable to believe their contributions are honest and legitimate. Note that the NSA's work on DES, which was rumored to have been backdoored by them, actually proved to strengthen it against differential cryptanalysis. It has indeed. But it remains unknown if it facilitated another attack. Anyway, could you you all take your affairs to another forum? They are her pretty off-topic. -Otto
Re: Why I Love Open Source - NSA helped with Windows 7 development
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 9:19 AM, patrick keshishian pkesh...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Felipe Alfaro Solana felipe.alf...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Obiozor Okeke obiozorok...@yahoo.com wrote: From Network World: NSA helped with Windows 7 development Privacy expert voices 'backdoor' concerns, security researchers dismiss idea By Gregg Keizer , Computerworld , 11/18/2009 Why would NSA need backdoors when they have a front-door via DHS, national security and things like that? Same reason there exist unconstitutional congressional acts/bills that allow for secret torture prisons, detention of persons without due process, complete bypassing of fouth and sixth amendments, voiding of the Posse Comitatus Act, etc. etc. ... naive voters like you are the reason we are in this shithole right now. I'm neither a US citizen nor a greencard holder, so I'm not a voter in the US (still can be naive, and naiver voter in another country, though).
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Re: Spanish language resources for OpenBSD
Here another: http://www.openbsderos.org/ And the spanish mirror of scrotwm http://scrotwm.com.ar/ ;) 2009/11/20 Jorge Enrique Valbuena Vargas jvalbue...@gmail.com: The web site is in spanish and with good info ! http://www.openbsdcolombia.org/ On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote: On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 07:17:18PM -0600, Chris Bennett wrote: I am now going to be setting up occasionally but regularly OpenBSD machines for people who only speak Spanish. I have already found the language packs for kde, openoffice, firefox and thunderbird. I just accidentally figured out that that www.openbsd.org has a couple a pages in Spanish, but no links to them from site that I could find. Is there anyone actively maintaining Spanish translations? Most of what I found was several releases old or even older. Is there a particular site that has got it all? I also saw a while back on ports that scrotwm was adding man pages in some additional languages, but I don't see any signs of that. Was that just for non-OpenBSD versions? Pages should be installed with the latest pkg. Let me know if that is not the case. Thanks, Chris Bennett -- A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. -- Robert Heinlein
Re: OT: Have you hugged your local OpenBSD dev lately?
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:06 PM, rhubbell rhubb...@ihubbell.com wrote: It's naive to point elsewhere and say see, they're not secure. Other similar systems are not as secure and that has been objectively demonstrated. Here's one example. See the chart at the top of page three: http://research.sun.com/projects/downunder/publications/documents/kca09.pdf If you care about these things, then you use OpenBSD. Brad
Re: OT: Have you hugged your local OpenBSD dev lately?
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 16:05:04 -0800 Bryan bra...@gmail.com wrote: So glad we don't have these kinds of issues... https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=534047 And finally... https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-November/msg01445.html Good fun though. -- Oliver PETER email: oli...@peter.de.com ICQ# 113969174 I'm just a simple man trying to make my way in the universe. -- Jango Fett
IBM thinkpad 570E
Hi all, I have succesfully installed openbsd 4.6 on a IBM thinkpad 570E and all working correctly. I'm using also two pcmcia LAN PC CARD. In attachment you can find dmesg. Best regards -- Matteo Filippetto OpenBSD 4.6 (GENERIC) #58: Thu Jul 9 21:24:42 MDT 2009 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel Pentium III (GenuineIntel 686-class) 449 MHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE real mem = 133722112 (127MB) avail mem = 120504320 (114MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 12/11/99, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd840, SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xe8010 (32 entries) bios0: vendor IBM version IUET25WW date 12/11/1999 bios0: IBM 26445AG apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 apm0: AC on, no battery acpi at bios0 function 0x0 not configured pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xfd7d0/0x830 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdef0/192 (10 entries) pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:06:0 (Intel 82371FB ISA rev 0x00) pcibios0: PCI bus #5 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xc000 0xe8000/0x8000 cpu0 at mainbus0: (uniprocessor) pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82443BX AGP rev 0x03 intelagp0 at pchb0 agp0 at intelagp0: aperture at 0xf800, size 0x400 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Intel 82443BX AGP rev 0x03 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 Neomagic Magicgraph NM2200 rev 0x20 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) cbb0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 TI PCI1450 CardBus rev 0x03: irq 11 cbb1 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 TI PCI1450 CardBus rev 0x03: irq 11 clcs0 at pci0 dev 5 function 0 Cirrus Logic CS4280/46xx CrystalClear rev 0x01: irq 11 ac97: codec id 0x43525903 (Cirrus Logic CS4297 rev 3) ac97: codec features headphone, 18 bit DAC, 18 bit ADC, No 3D Stereo piixpcib0 at pci0 dev 6 function 0 Intel 82371AB PIIX4 ISA rev 0x02 pciide0 at pci0 dev 6 function 1 Intel 82371AB IDE rev 0x01: DMA, channel 0 wired to compatibility, channel 1 wired to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: IBM-DARA-206000 wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 5729MB, 11733120 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2 atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: LG, CD-ROM CRN-8241B, 1.23 ATAPI 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2 uhci0 at pci0 dev 6 function 2 Intel 82371AB USB rev 0x01: irq 11 piixpm0 at pci0 dev 6 function 3 Intel 82371AB Power rev 0x03: SMI iic0 at piixpm0 ATT/Lucent LTMODEM rev 0x01 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 not configured cbb0: bad Vcc request. sock_ctrl 0x0, sock_status 0x3b20 cardslot0 at cbb0 slot 0 flags 0 cardbus0 at cardslot0: bus 2 device 0 cacheline 0x8, lattimer 0xb0 pcmcia0 at cardslot0 cardslot1 at cbb1 slot 1 flags 0 cardbus1 at cardslot1: bus 5 device 0 cacheline 0x8, lattimer 0xb0 pcmcia1 at cardslot1 isa0 at piixpcib0 isadma0 at isa0 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pms0 at pckbc0 (aux slot) pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot wsmouse0 at pms0 mux 0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker spkr0 at pcppi0 lpt2 at isa0 port 0x3bc/4: polled npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16 fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2 fd0 at fdc0 drive 0: 1.44MB 80 cyl, 2 head, 18 sec usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0 at usb0 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 biomask effd netmask effd ttymask mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support cbb0: bad Vcc request. sock_ctrl 0x30, sock_status 0x3b20 xl0 at cardbus0 dev 0 function 0 3Com 3CCFE575CT rev 0x10: irq 11, address 00:04:75:86:ff:d9 tqphy0 at xl0 phy 0: 78Q2120 10/100 PHY, rev. 11 ep1 at pcmcia1 function 0 3Com, Megahertz 574B, B port 0xa000/32: address 00:50:04:fd:8c:07 tqphy1 at ep1 phy 0: 78Q2120 10/100 PHY, rev. 10 softraid0 at root root on wd0a swap on wd0b dump on wd0b clcs0: firmware loaded audio0 at clcs0
Re: Seguimiento
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Re: OT: Have you hugged your local OpenBSD dev lately?
On 11/20/09, rhubbell rhubb...@ihubbell.com wrote: Definitely not missing the point. Maybe you missed mine. Not worrying because you trust everything about OpenBSD and everyone that's worked on it and every package you've installed and every piece of hardware you've installed, etc., etc. It's naive to point elsewhere and say see, they're not secure. For example should I trust you and the other tooters just because you insist OpenBSD's secure? OpenBSD's security isn't affected at all if we, as users, insist on it. It's the proven record. While others get new GUIs with each new release of their OS of choice, we get tmux, and security fix of a remote vulnerability of a non-base package within 2 hours since it became known. We, non-technical users, see the no-nonsense attitude of devs on this very list. I haven't seen any tooting here, devs are busy with more important work than to campaign that our OS of choice is of different league from any other. We already know that.
GPT Partition Table support
Hello What is the current status of GPT support in OpenBSD? Are there any patches for 4.6? Both NetBSD and FreeBSD can use GPT. Is there a way to convert gpt to mbr? How can I read and dump GPT from some harddrive using OpenBSD? -- WBR, Alex V Breger
Re: Hardware versus Software RAID
Darrin Chandler wrote: If you're doing RAID for redundancy/safety then there are some things to consider: * hardware RAID w/ good controller can be very fast and reliable * if your RAID controller goes out then your data is unreadable unless you have a backup controller! Actually, this is not true of RAID 1. I just tried it on a very similar server to Mauro's with RAID1 configured through mpi. A couple of things on this version of the firmware--initially configuring the raid is done through the bios and on a pair of 10K 73GB U320 drives it was slow. I started at about 10 am yesterday and it was still chugging along when I left at 6:30 but it was done when I got here this morning. I failed a drive (*NOT* with a nail gun, though, I just removed it ;-) and bioctl correctly showed the drive as failed and the raid running as degraded. I re-inserted the same drive but I was unable to find any magic bioctl -R that would kick off a rebuild. I shutdown that server, removed the failed drive and inserted it into another identical SuperMicro. System booted, noted an unclean shutdown, ran fsck and was at login in short order. So, just for fun I shutdown the second server, took its drive and reinstalled in the second slot of the first again and fired it up. As the system booted the second drive's light lit solid on so I suspected a behind the scenes rebuild was going on. When I got logged in bioctl -v mpi0 shows both drives online, and the raid status is Rebuild. Jeff Here's my dmesg (system with both drives installed): OpenBSD 4.6-current (GENERIC.MP) #312: Thu Nov 19 12:25:12 MST 2009 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP cpu0: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 3.21 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,CNXT-ID,CX16,xTPR real mem = 3757518848 (3583MB) avail mem = 3657326592 (3487MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 03/29/05, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xf0010, SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xfa380 (61 entries) bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version 080010 date 03/29/2005 bios0: SiMech R200 acpi0 at bios0: rev 0 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC OEMB acpi0: wakeup devices PXHA(S4) PXHB(S4) EPA0(S4) EPA1(S4) EPB0(S4) EPB1(S4) EPC0(S4) P0P1(S4) MC97(S4) USB1(S1) USB2(S1) EUSB(S4) PS2K(S4) PS2M(S4) P0PC(S4) SLPB(S4) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: apic clock running at 200MHz cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 6 (application processor) cpu1: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 3.21 GHz cpu1: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,CNXT-ID,CX16,xTPR cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor) cpu2: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 3.21 GHz cpu2: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,CNXT-ID,CX16,xTPR cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 7 (application processor) cpu3: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 3.21 GHz cpu3: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,CNXT-ID,CX16,xTPR ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 8 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins ioapic1 at mainbus0: apid 11 pa 0xfec1, version 20, 24 pins ioapic1: misconfigured as apic 9, remapped to apid 11 ioapic2 at mainbus0: apid 9 pa 0xfec8, version 20, 24 pins ioapic2: misconfigured as apic 10, remapped to apid 9 ioapic3 at mainbus0: apid 10 pa 0xfec80400, version 20, 24 pins ioapic3: misconfigured as apic 11, remapped to apid 10 acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (EPA0) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 3 (PXHA) acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 2 (PXHB) acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 4 (EPA1) acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus 6 (P0P1) acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 5 (P0PC) acpicpu0 at acpi0 acpicpu1 at acpi0 acpicpu2 at acpi0 acpicpu3 at acpi0 acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB acpibtn1 at acpi0: SLPB bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000 0xc8000/0x4000 0xcc000/0x1000 0xcd000/0x1000 ipmi at mainbus0 not configured pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel E7320 Host rev 0x0c ppb0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel E7520 PCIE rev 0x0c pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 ppb1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 Intel PCIE-PCIE rev 0x09 pci2 at ppb1 bus 3 mpi0 at pci2 dev 5 function 0 Symbios Logic 53c1030 rev 0xc1: apic 9 int 2 (irq 11) scsibus0 at mpi0: 16 targets, initiator 7 sd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: LSILOGIC, 1030 IM, 1000 SCSI2 0/direct fixed sd0: 69878MB, 512 bytes/sec, 143110144 sec total mpi0: phys disk 0 Sync at 160MHz width 16bit offset 63 QAS 1 DT 1 IU 1 mpi0: phys disk 1 Sync at 160MHz width 16bit offset 63 QAS 1 DT 1 IU 1 ppb2
Re: GPT Partition Table support
We talked about it several times but no one has written the code. We'll take patches. On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 09:50:13PM +0300, Alex V. Breger wrote: Hello What is the current status of GPT support in OpenBSD? Are there any patches for 4.6? Both NetBSD and FreeBSD can use GPT. Is there a way to convert gpt to mbr? How can I read and dump GPT from some harddrive using OpenBSD? -- WBR, Alex V Breger
are setuid-root perl scripts considered insecure?
In message http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=125859873724898w=1, Ted Unangst ted.unangst () gmail ! com wrote [[about running firefox as root]] It's the easiest way to nice it to -10... I have two reactions to this. First, the unimportant one: Nice it to a negative number! Way too many sites confuse it enough to trigger infinite or near-infinite loops, so I keep it niced to a *positive* number (currently +6, though I've used +10 in the past)... Now the important one: To me, the obvious way to nice firefox (or anything else with a /bin/sh startup script) to -10 is to use a setuid-root perl script to either renice itself before invoking the usual firefox startup script, or to renice the firefox binary after it starts running. I'm sure Ted thought of this... so I'm wondering why he rejected this? In particular, assuming the programmer RTFM perlsec, is there a security risk for setuid-root perl scripts that I've missed? ciao, -- -- Jonathan Thornburg [remove -animal to reply] jth...@astro.indiana-zebra.edu Dept of Astronomy, Indiana University, Bloomington, Indiana, USA C++ is to programming as sex is to reproduction. Better ways might technically exist but they're not nearly as much fun. -- Nikolai Irgens
Re: Please use this to convert people to OpenBSD
Ey, nice project! And appears just on time... I was missing an alternative to Wordpress for my not-caring-about-never-used-features fellows. Will give it a try :) Jason Dixon escribis: On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 05:46:00PM +0530, Girish Venkatachalam wrote: Dear friends, Please stop spamming the list about your project. I'm happy to see it exists, but I think it's inappropriate (and annoying) to email misc@ on a daily basis (4 days now). A more appropriate venue would be the OpenBSD Journal. Why don't you submit a story? P.S. Today's promotion of liveusb-openbsd is bordering on zealotry. Zealotry is stupid and attracts users we don't want in the first place. P.P.S. I think I need to go blog about this now. http://blogsum.obfuscurity.com/ ;)
Re: Hardware versus Software RAID
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:08:33PM -0700, Jeff Ross wrote: Darrin Chandler wrote: If you're doing RAID for redundancy/safety then there are some things to consider: * hardware RAID w/ good controller can be very fast and reliable * if your RAID controller goes out then your data is unreadable unless you have a backup controller! Actually, this is not true of RAID 1. I just tried it on a very similar server to Mauro's with RAID1 configured through mpi. Ah, that makes perfect sense for RAID1. Good catch. Even so, I think the test you did is a very good thing to see if a given controller behaves correctly for RAID1. A couple of things on this version of the firmware--initially configuring the raid is done through the bios and on a pair of 10K 73GB U320 drives it was slow. I started at about 10 am yesterday and it was still chugging along when I left at 6:30 but it was done when I got here this morning. I failed a drive (*NOT* with a nail gun, though, I just removed it ;-) and bioctl correctly showed the drive as failed and the raid running as degraded. I re-inserted the same drive but I was unable to find any magic bioctl -R that would kick off a rebuild. I shutdown that server, removed the failed drive and inserted it into another identical SuperMicro. System booted, noted an unclean shutdown, ran fsck and was at login in short order. So, just for fun I shutdown the second server, took its drive and reinstalled in the second slot of the first again and fired it up. As the system booted the second drive's light lit solid on so I suspected a behind the scenes rebuild was going on. When I got logged in bioctl -v mpi0 shows both drives online, and the raid status is Rebuild. Jeff Here's my dmesg (system with both drives installed): OpenBSD 4.6-current (GENERIC.MP) #312: Thu Nov 19 12:25:12 MST 2009 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP cpu0: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 3.21 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,CNXT-ID,CX16,xTPR real mem = 3757518848 (3583MB) avail mem = 3657326592 (3487MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 03/29/05, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xf0010, SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xfa380 (61 entries) bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version 080010 date 03/29/2005 bios0: SiMech R200 acpi0 at bios0: rev 0 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC OEMB acpi0: wakeup devices PXHA(S4) PXHB(S4) EPA0(S4) EPA1(S4) EPB0(S4) EPB1(S4) EPC0(S4) P0P1(S4) MC97(S4) USB1(S1) USB2(S1) EUSB(S4) PS2K(S4) PS2M(S4) P0PC(S4) SLPB(S4) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: apic clock running at 200MHz cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 6 (application processor) cpu1: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 3.21 GHz cpu1: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,CNXT-ID,CX16,xTPR cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor) cpu2: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 3.21 GHz cpu2: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,CNXT-ID,CX16,xTPR cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 7 (application processor) cpu3: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 3.21 GHz cpu3: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,CNXT-ID,CX16,xTPR ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 8 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins ioapic1 at mainbus0: apid 11 pa 0xfec1, version 20, 24 pins ioapic1: misconfigured as apic 9, remapped to apid 11 ioapic2 at mainbus0: apid 9 pa 0xfec8, version 20, 24 pins ioapic2: misconfigured as apic 10, remapped to apid 9 ioapic3 at mainbus0: apid 10 pa 0xfec80400, version 20, 24 pins ioapic3: misconfigured as apic 11, remapped to apid 10 acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (EPA0) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 3 (PXHA) acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 2 (PXHB) acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 4 (EPA1) acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus 6 (P0P1) acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 5 (P0PC) acpicpu0 at acpi0 acpicpu1 at acpi0 acpicpu2 at acpi0 acpicpu3 at acpi0 acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB acpibtn1 at acpi0: SLPB bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000 0xc8000/0x4000 0xcc000/0x1000 0xcd000/0x1000 ipmi at mainbus0 not configured pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel E7320 Host rev 0x0c ppb0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel E7520 PCIE rev 0x0c pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 ppb1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 Intel PCIE-PCIE rev 0x09 pci2 at ppb1 bus 3 mpi0 at pci2 dev 5 function 0 Symbios Logic 53c1030 rev 0xc1: apic 9 int 2 (irq 11)
Re: release(8), xenocara/README and faq5.html
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 12:14:46AM +0100, Nicolas Legrand wrote: Hey, in Building Xenocara (release(8), xenocara/README, faq5.html) should: # rm -rf /usr/xobj/* be removed from faq5.html or added to release(8) and xenocara/README? sorry to take 2 weeks to reply... looks like no one knows, so do as you please... jmc
IBM 305 server and 4.6
I have a very odd thing happening and I am looking for anything I may have overlooked while troubleshooting... (2) identical IBM 305 (8673-82x) machines equipped 100% the same with dual onboard BGE gig NICs. Nothing else extra added. Bios is same and options are setup exact. Basically machine #2 is just a 'ready' backup for machine #1 and typically I build the OS on Machine #1 then 'clone' an identical drive - toss it in machine #2 and test it. Usually thats never any issue. I am unable to do this with OpenBSD 4.6 i386. Thinking it was a mistake in the 'cloning', I took the drive out of machine #1 and put it into machine #2. It boots fine. NIC shows gig speed as expected - but while everything seems ok - the machine wont communicate with my lan. I rebooted the network switch in case it was an arp issue. Nope. I then did a standalone fresh install on machine #2. No issues with install or boot, but the same NO NETWORK. If I install any other OS on machine #2, such as net or free - the machine runs and performs fine. I am at a total loss on this as it makes NO sense whatsoever but don't know what else to check. Anything left to check out that I missed? -- J.D. Bronson
Re: Hardware versus Software RAID
Darrin Chandler wrote: If you're doing RAID for redundancy/safety then there are some things to consider: No. I am considering Raid, RAID1, in this case, mainly for *UPTIME*... * with RAID, you should still do backups I do my backups very well, thanks... Point here is that I am not considering raid as an alternative to backup, but as a way to keep the system up... Please correct me if I am wrong, but when your drive fails you have *TWO* problems: 1) you have to restore from your (well kept, well done, well designed and well verified) backups (a big *IF*, if I can say); 2) the system is down until you restore everything; So, either you have the luxury (or the need) of a hot spare machine... Or a raid solution can /help/ you recover more quickly... or not? Please note that although raid and/or backups and how they are configured in respect to each other and how they are deployed is a *very* fascinating topic (and I am *very* interested in hearing everybody's ideas, opinions, experiences on this) actually this is an off topic debate... Because my original question was indeed very narrow: Hardware or Software? I think we all got sucked into a very serious/complex/fascinating/interesting/whatever issue, that of how to make your system more reliable, in these difficult days of complex network architectures... But this is just a can of worms... I wouldn't dare to mail such a question to the list... You see: - what if you have raid level whatever everywhere? - what if you can implement hot spare machines? - what if your valuable data is mainly into a RDMS? - what if your disks are cheap and your cpus are expensive? - what if your disks are expensive and your cpus are cheap? - what if you are using VMs? - what if you just use ZFS everywhere (sorry I couldn't resist)? - what if you are on the cloud (sorry I couldn't resist)? I appreciate your post, don't get me wrong, the problem of making a network infrastructure rock solid and totally reliable is probably the secret dream of every respectable net administrator... But I think we must chop the problem in swallow-able pieces... -- Mauro Rezzonico ma...@ch23.org, Como, Italia Maybe this world is another planet's hell - H.Huxley
Re: Hardware versus Software RAID
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Mauro Rezzonico l...@ch23.org wrote: Darrin Chandler wrote: If you're doing RAID for redundancy/safety then there are some things to consider: No. I am considering Raid, RAID1, in this case, mainly for *UPTIME*... * with RAID, you should still do backups I do my backups very well, thanks... Point here is that I am not considering raid as an alternative to backup, but as a way to keep the system up... Please correct me if I am wrong, but when your drive fails you have *TWO* problems: 1) you have to restore from your (well kept, well done, well designed and well verified) backups (a big *IF*, if I can say); 2) the system is down until you restore everything; So, either you have the luxury (or the need) of a hot spare machine... Or a raid solution can /help/ you recover more quickly... or not? Please note that although raid and/or backups and how they are configured in respect to each other and how they are deployed is a *very* fascinating topic (and I am *very* interested in hearing everybody's ideas, opinions, experiences on this) actually this is an off topic debate... Because my original question was indeed very narrow: Hardware or Software? Software. If you go hardware you will get married to your hardware's vendor, which is typically costly and requires you to have +X spares for the controller. Software is hardware independent (you only depend on the OS). With hardware RAID you depend on the hardware (to run the RAID) and the OS (to use the filesystem or volumes on top of the RAID). I think we all got sucked into a very serious/complex/fascinating/interesting/whatever issue, that of how to make your system more reliable, in these difficult days of complex network architectures... But this is just a can of worms... I wouldn't dare to mail such a question to the list... You see: - what if you have raid level whatever everywhere? - what if you can implement hot spare machines? - what if your valuable data is mainly into a RDMS? - what if your disks are cheap and your cpus are expensive? - what if your disks are expensive and your cpus are cheap? - what if you are using VMs? - what if you just use ZFS everywhere (sorry I couldn't resist)? - what if you are on the cloud (sorry I couldn't resist)? I appreciate your post, don't get me wrong, the problem of making a network infrastructure rock solid and totally reliable is probably the secret dream of every respectable net administrator... But I think we must chop the problem in swallow-able pieces... -- Mauro Rezzonico ma...@ch23.org, Como, Italia Maybe this world is another planet's hell - H.Huxley -- http://www.felipe-alfaro.org/blog/disclaimer/
Error message from a distant site
I have an email from a friend which tells me that he is getting a scrolling screen when he tried to reboot a server that was shutdown as a precaution due to an approaching severe electrical storm. The message says; ckbcintr: no dev for slot 1 and I cannot contact him for a few days because he has gone on a business trip and so I cannot get him to do anything until he returns. Can somebody give me a clue about where this message originates and maybe possible causes. The box is running 4.5 release on i386 and is just a server for local data storage. It's been stable since its upgrade to 4.5 back in May. Until I know where the trigger is likely to be I cannot suggest anything for him to do when i get him on the phone. TIA, *** NOTE *** Please DO NOT CC me. I am subscribed to the list. Mail to the sender address that does not originate at the list server is tarpitted. The reply-to: address is provided for those who feel compelled to reply off list. Thankyou. Rod/ --- This life is not the real thing. It is not even in Beta. If it was, then OpenBSD would already have a man page for it.
Re: Error message from a distant site
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:34:52 +1100, Rod Whitworth wrote: In my previous email: The message says; ckbcintr: no dev for slot 1 and I cannot contact him for a few days because he has gone on a business trip and so I cannot get him to do anything until he returns. I should have added that Google turned up only one hit for ckbcintr and it wasn't helpful. However I didn't just send that mail and wait for the instant perfect answer ;-) Just on a whim I looked at the dmesg from a similar box and found pckbc so I have just googled and have lots of hits to examine. It does seem that lots of them relate to computers freezing whilst in service, not at boot time. I'll go hunt some more but if someone has a solid clue I'll be grateful for a chance to get a break from reading messages that don't hit the spot. Ta, *** NOTE *** Please DO NOT CC me. I am subscribed to the list. Mail to the sender address that does not originate at the list server is tarpitted. The reply-to: address is provided for those who feel compelled to reply off list. Thankyou. Rod/ --- This life is not the real thing. It is not even in Beta. If it was, then OpenBSD would already have a man page for it.
URGE INFORMACION
BUENAS TARDE: ME PUEDEN ENVIAR INFORMACION DEL CONGRESO DE MANTENIMIENTO GRACIAS Annabel Garrido C. Jefe de Capacitacisn Corporativa correo: annabel.garr...@bachoco.netmailto:annabel.garr...@bachoco.net tel. 01 461 61 83500 ext. 10216 fax. 61 16502 La informacion contenida en este mensaje y sus anexos es de caracter privado y confidencial y para el uso exclusivo de la persona o institucion a la cual ha sido enviado y para otros autorizados para recibirlo, por lo que no podra distribuirse sin la autorizacion expresa del remitente. Si usted no es el destinatario a quien este mensaje fue dirigido o si no es un empleado responsable del envio de este mensaje al destinatario, se hace de su conocimiento que cualquier revision, diseminacion, distribucion, copia u otro uso o acto realizado con base en o relacionado con el contenido de este mensaje y sus anexos esta estrictamente prohibida y puede ser ilegal. Asimismo, el presente mensaje no representa la manifestacion del consentimiento de ninguna de las partes, por lo que no genera derecho u obligacion alguna para ambas sino hasta que sus representantes legales asi lo manifiesten por escrito. Si usted ha recibido este comunicado y sus anexos por error, le solicitamos lo notifique inmediatamente al remitente respondiendo a este correo y borre el presente y sus anexos de su sistema sin conservar copia de los mismos. Se suprimieron acentos y caracteres especiales para legibilidad del mismo. Gracias. Bachoco, S.A. de C.V.
Re: Error message from a distant site
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 12:18:14PM +1100, Rod Whitworth wrote: I should have added that Google turned up only one hit for ckbcintr Try pckbcintr
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Mounting UFS2 (FreeBSD) partition? 2nd try
Hello Can OpenBSD read ufs2 partitions? I need only reading, without writing. I have a backup drive from FreeBSD and want to extract some information from it. # uname -srv OpenBSD 4.6 GENERIC.MP#89 # ls -ldi m 660480 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Nov 21 05:39 m # mount -r /dev/sd0j m # ls -ldi m ls: m: Bad file descriptor # umount /dev/sd0j # file -sk /dev/sd0j /dev/sd0j: Unix Fast File system [v2] (little-endian) last mounted on , last written at ===, clean flag 1, readonly flag 0, number of blocks 244139259, number of data blocks 244122409, number of cylinder groups 526, block size 65536, fragment size 8192, average file size 16384, average number of files in dir 64, pending blocks to free 0, pending inodes to free 0, system-wide uuid 0, minimum percentage of free blocks 8, TIME optimization\012 , 44.1 kHz\012 , Stereo Is there any options to set compability or debugging? -- WBR, Alex V Breger
Re: IBM 305 server and 4.6
J.D. Bronson wrote: I have a very odd thing happening and I am looking for anything I may have overlooked while troubleshooting... (2) identical IBM 305 (8673-82x) machines equipped 100% the same with dual onboard BGE gig NICs. Nothing else extra added. Bios is same and options are setup exact. Are you installing OpenBSD 4.6 - Release (the official CD)? I had the same problem with an IBM 335 (don't ask me the differences between an IBM 335 and an IBM 305, I will paste my dmesg at the end) and I could not figure out the issue, then somebody told me to try a snapshot instead, and everything worked fine... I am still not satisfied with the solution, given that now I must follow -current, now... I have been searching the Changelog, but in vain... (probably it's just me) Try with a snapshot... (if it doesn't work, try a different snapshot... It kinds of reminds me of Plan9...) --=-- OpenBSD 4.6-current (GENERIC.MP) #1: Thu Nov 19 14:16:08 CET 2009 r...@dwa.ch23.lan:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP cpu0: Intel(R) XEON(TM) CPU 2.40GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 2.40 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT, PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM real mem = 4160290816 (3967MB) avail mem = 4053897216 (3866MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 09/11/02, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd7e1, SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf7141 (43 entries) bios0: vendor IBM version -[T2E110AUS-1.01]- date 09/11/2002 bios0: IBM eserver xSeries 335 -[867665X]- acpi0 at bios0: rev 0 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC ASF! acpi0: wakeup devices PCI0(S5) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: apic clock running at 99MHz cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 6 (application processor) cpu1: Intel(R) XEON(TM) CPU 2.40GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 2.40 GHz cpu1: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT, PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor) cpu2: Intel(R) XEON(TM) CPU 2.40GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 2.40 GHz cpu2: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT, PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 7 (application processor) cpu3: Intel(R) XEON(TM) CPU 2.40GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 2.40 GHz cpu3: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT, PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 14 pa 0xfec0, version 11, 16 pins ioapic1 at mainbus0: apid 13 pa 0xfec01000, version 11, 16 pins ioapic2 at mainbus0: apid 12 pa 0xfec02000, version 11, 16 pins acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (PCI1) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 2 (PCI2) acpicpu0 at acpi0 acpicpu1 at acpi0 acpicpu2 at acpi0 acpicpu3 at acpi0 bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000 0xc8000/0x4000 0xcc000/0x1800 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 ServerWorks CMIC-WS Host (GC-LE) rev 0x13 pchb1 at pci0 dev 0 function 1 ServerWorks CMIC-WS Host (GC-LE) rev 0x00 pchb2 at pci0 dev 0 function 2 ServerWorks CMIC-LE rev 0x00 pci1 at pchb2 bus 1 mpi0 at pci1 dev 1 function 0 Symbios Logic 53c1030 rev 0x07: apic 13 int 6 (irq 9) scsibus0 at mpi0: 16 targets, initiator 7 sd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: COMPAQ, BD03685A24, HPB3 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd0: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132000 sec total sd1 at scsibus0 targ 1 lun 0: COMPAQ, BD036863AC, HPB8 SCSI3 0/direct fixed sd1: 34732MB, 512 bytes/sec, 71132000 sec total safte0 at scsibus0 targ 8 lun 0: IBM, 25P3495a S320 1, 1 SCSI2 3/processor fixed mpi0: target 0 Sync at 160MHz width 16bit offset 63 QAS 1 DT 1 IU 1 mpi0: target 1 Sync at 160MHz width 16bit offset 127 QAS 1 DT 1 IU 1 vga1 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 ATI Rage XL rev 0x27 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) fxp0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 8255x rev 0x0d, i82550: apic 13 int 0 (irq 10), address 00:02:b3:da:76:86 inphy0 at fxp0 phy 1: i82555 10/100 PHY, rev. 4 piixpm0 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 ServerWorks CSB5 rev 0x93: polling iic0 at piixpm0 spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 1GB DDR SDRAM registered ECC PC2100CL2.5 spdmem1 at iic0 addr 0x51: 1GB DDR SDRAM registered ECC PC2300CL2.5 spdmem2 at iic0 addr 0x52: 1GB DDR SDRAM registered ECC PC2100CL2.5 spdmem3 at iic0 addr 0x53: 1GB DDR SDRAM registered ECC PC2300CL2.5 pciide0 at pci0 dev 15 function 1 ServerWorks CSB5 IDE rev 0x93: DMA atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0 scsibus1 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0: TEAC, CD-224E, 2.9B ATAPI 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2, Ultra-DMA mode 2 ohci0 at pci0 dev 15 function 2 ServerWorks OSB4/CSB5 USB rev 0x05: apic 14 int 11 (irq 11), version 1.0, legacy support pcib0 at pci0 dev 15 function 3 ServerWorks CSB5 LPC rev 0x00 pchb3 at pci0 dev 17 function 0
softraid RAID1 rebuild
Hi I had to replace one of the drives in a softraid raid level 1 setup. How do I kick off a rebuild? This is apparently not the correct way, or something else is broken here... # bioctl -c 1 -l /dev/sd0a,/dev/sd1a softraid0 # bioctl -ih softraid0 Volume Status Size Device softraid0 0 Degraded 190G sd2 RAID1 0 Online 190G 0:0.0 noencl sd0a 1 Offline0B 0:1.0 noencl sd1a # bioctl -R 0:0.0 sd1a bioctl: BIOCINQ: Inappropriate ioctl for device OpenBSD 4.6-current (GENERIC) #386: Thu Nov 19 12:17:55 MST 2009 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC /Markus
Re: Hardware versus Software RAID
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Jeff Ross jr...@openvistas.net wrote: I failed a drive (*NOT* with a nail gun, though, I just removed it ;-) and bioctl correctly showed the drive as failed and the raid running as degraded. I re-inserted the same drive but I was unable to find any magic bioctl -R that would kick off a rebuild. I shutdown that server, removed the failed drive and inserted it into another identical SuperMicro. System booted, noted an unclean shutdown, ran fsck and was at login in short order. So, just for fun I shutdown the second server, took its drive and reinstalled in the second slot of the first again and fired it up. As the system booted the second drive's light lit solid on so I suspected a behind the scenes rebuild was going on. When I got logged in bioctl -v mpi0 shows both drives online, and the raid status is Rebuild. I have no idea what magic your raid controller has, but unless it understands filesystems, this is really asking for trouble. You have two similar but slightly different filesystem images. You are going to merge them? I assume/hope the the raid card just picked one drive as the winner and is going to wipe the other, because that's the only way this could work.
Re: are setuid-root perl scripts considered insecure?
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Jonathan Thornburg jth...@astro.indiana.edu wrote: In message http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=125859873724898w=1, Ted Unangst ted.unangst () gmail ! com wrote [[about running firefox as root]] It's the easiest way to nice it to -10... I'm really surprised at the number of people who took this statement seriously. I know I left out the sarcasm tags, but I figured it would be pretty obvious. oops. I have two reactions to this. First, the unimportant one: Nice it to a negative number! Way too many sites confuse it enough to trigger infinite or near-infinite loops, so I keep it niced to a *positive* number (currently +6, though I've used +10 in the past)... Now the important one: To me, the obvious way to nice firefox (or anything else with a /bin/sh startup script) to -10 is to use a setuid-root perl script to either renice itself before invoking the usual firefox startup script, or to renice the firefox binary after it starts running. I'm sure Ted thought of this... so I'm wondering why he rejected this? In particular, assuming the programmer RTFM perlsec, is there a security risk for setuid-root perl scripts that I've missed? ciao, -- -- Jonathan Thornburg [remove -animal to reply] jth...@astro.indiana-zebra.edu Dept of Astronomy, Indiana University, Bloomington, Indiana, USA C++ is to programming as sex is to reproduction. Better ways might technically exist but they're not nearly as much fun. -- Nikolai Irgens
Re: are setuid-root perl scripts considered insecure?
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Ted Unangst ted.unan...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Jonathan Thornburg jth...@astro.indiana.edu wrote: In message http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=125859873724898w=1, Ted Unangst ted.unangst () gmail ! com wrote [[about running firefox as root]] It's the easiest way to nice it to -10... I'm really surprised at the number of people who took this statement seriously. I know I left out the sarcasm tags, but I figured it would be pretty obvious. oops. I read below and found it hilarious. I *think* he was kidding too. -B I have two reactions to this. First, the unimportant one: Nice it to a negative number! Way too many sites confuse it enough to trigger infinite or near-infinite loops, so I keep it niced to a *positive* number (currently +6, though I've used +10 in the past)... Now the important one: To me, the obvious way to nice firefox (or anything else with a /bin/sh startup script) to -10 is to use a setuid-root perl script to either renice itself before invoking the usual firefox startup script, or to renice the firefox binary after it starts running. I'm sure Ted thought of this... so I'm wondering why he rejected this? In particular, assuming the programmer RTFM perlsec, is there a security risk for setuid-root perl scripts that I've missed? ciao, -- -- Jonathan Thornburg [remove -animal to reply] jth...@astro.indiana-zebra.edu Dept of Astronomy, Indiana University, Bloomington, Indiana, USA C++ is to programming as sex is to reproduction. Better ways might technically exist but they're not nearly as much fun. -- Nikolai Irgens
