Re: MTA choice

2010-08-17 Thread Gregory Edigarov
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 09:36:00 -0700
Chris Cappuccio ch...@nmedia.net wrote:

 Kevin Chadwick [ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk] wrote:
  
  One thing which is debateable for hours is smtp connections and
  verps which is why an rfc can't be decided upon (performance (for
  spammers too) vs functionality). qmail has taught other MTAs far
  more than any other MTA has taught qmail.
 
 That's right, qmail was obviously a big inspiration for Postfix as
 far as perforamnce, process isolation and security were concerned,
 but luckily not in the configration department, as Postfix is the
 easiest to use performance MTA bar none!
 

Qmail??? Postfix??? easiest to use Oh, please don't... I would
even not give a dime to exim, which of the big guys I love the
most, in the terms of ease of configure.  So now I definitelly see
OpenSMTPD as a very viable alternative.   

-- 
With best regards,
Gregory Edigarov



Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm

2010-08-17 Thread Tomas Bodzar
Hi all,

did someone saw similar problem in scrotwm(1)? Eg. when I start
xeyes(1) on empty workspace from menu M-p it simply shut down X. If
I start eg. xcalc(1) then everything is ok. Another problem is with
xlock(1). When I want to lock my screen and start xlock(1) eg. this
way 'xlock -mode atlantis' then my computer completely hangs and I
must to turn it off with button on case. Last problem which I
discovered is with warzone game. When I start it on empty workspace
then it says that timing of monitor is not ok for this app and X is
not working anymore and I must kill X from console.

So someone here with similar behaviour?


OpenBSD 4.8 (GENERIC.MP) #356: Mon Aug  9 00:28:02 MDT 2010
dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP
RTC BIOS diagnostic error 11memory_size
cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7500 @ 2.93GHz (GenuineIntel
686-class) 2.93 GHz
cpu0:
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS
H,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3
,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,XSAVE
real mem  = 3487125504 (3325MB)
avail mem = 3420106752 (3261MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 02/13/10, BIOS32 rev. 0 @
0xffea0, SMBIOS rev. 2.5 @ 0xf0450 (82 entries)
bios0: vendor Dell Inc. version A03 date 02/13/2010
bios0: Dell Inc. OptiPlex 780
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SSDT APIC BOOT ASF! MCFG HPET DMAR SLIC SSDT SSDT
SSDT
acpi0: wakeup devices VBTN(S4) PCI0(S5) PCI4(S5) PCI3(S5) PCI1(S5)
PCI5(S5) PCI6(S5) MOU_(S3) USB0(S3) USB1(S3) USB2(S3) USB3(S3)
USB4(S3) USB5(S3)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: apic clock running at 265MHz
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7500 @ 2.93GHz (GenuineIntel
686-class) 2.93 GHz
cpu1:
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS
H,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3
,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,XSAVE
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 8 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins
ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 8
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 4 (PCI4)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 2 (PCI2)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 3 (PCI3)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 1 (PCI1)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (PCI5)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (PCI6)
acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpicpu0 at acpi0: C1, PSS
acpicpu1 at acpi0: C1, PSS
acpibtn0 at acpi0: VBTN
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x1 0xd/0x2000! 0xd2000/0x2800!
0xd4800/0x3800
cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 2926 MHz: speeds: 2933, 2667, 2400, 2133,
1867, 1600 MHz
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel Q45 Host rev 0x03
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Intel Q45 PCIE rev 0x03: apic 8 int 16 (irq
11)
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 ATI Radeon HD 3470 rev 0x00
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
radeondrm0 at vga1: apic 8 int 16 (irq 11)
drm0 at radeondrm0
em0 at pci0 dev 25 function 0 Intel ICH10 D BM LM rev 0x02: apic 8
int 21 (irq 10), address XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX
uhci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 0 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
int 16 (irq 11)
uhci1 at pci0 dev 26 function 1 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
int 17 (irq 9)
uhci2 at pci0 dev 26 function 2 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
int 22 (irq 3)
ehci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 7 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
int 22 (irq 3)
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 Intel 82801JD HD Audio rev 0x02:
apic 8 int 16 (irq 11)
azalia0: codecs: Analog Devices AD1984A
audio0 at azalia0
ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801JD PCIE rev 0x02: apic 8
int 16 (irq 11)
pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 Intel 82801JD PCIE rev 0x02: apic 8
int 17 (irq 9)
pci3 at ppb2 bus 3
uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
int 23 (irq 10)
uhci4 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
int 17 (irq 9)
uhci5 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
int 18 (irq 10)
ehci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
int 23 (irq 10)
usb1 at ehci1: USB revision 2.0
uhub1 at usb1 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
ppb3 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BA Hub-to-PCI rev 0xa2
pci4 at ppb3 bus 4
pcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801JDO LPC rev 0x02
ahci0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 82801JD AHCI rev 0x02: apic 8
int 18 (irq 10), AHCI 1.2
ahci0: PHY offline on port 2
ahci0: PHY offline on port 3
scsibus0 at ahci0: 32 targets
sd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: ATA, WDC WD2500AAJS-7, 02.0 SCSI3 0/direct
fixed
sd0: 238418MB, 512 bytes/sec, 488281250 sec total
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 1 lun 0: TSSTcorp, DVD+-RW TS-H653G, DW10 ATAPI

Seminario sobre Herramientas Ejecutivas de Comercializacion - 28/8/10

2010-08-17 Thread Eventos Agosto | ESAG
AGOSTO EN ESCUELA DE ALTA GERENCIA
HERRAMIENTAS EJECUTIVAS DE COMERCIALIZACICN
ATENCICN AL CLIENTE - VENTAS - MARKETING


La eficiencia comercial, es una de las necesidades de todo profesional que
tiene contacto con clientes. Vender, es una actividad imprescindible para que
la empresa siga adelante.

Pero, B?esperando tras del mostrador se logran ventas? B?CuC!ntas veces, un
producto excelente, no se vende, mientras otro de menor calidad y a mayor
precio si? B?A quC) se debe? B?CC3mo tratar con clientes difC-ciles? B?CC3mo
venderles?

El objetivo del taller, es acercarle una serie de consejos, estrategias, ideas
y tips para encontrar la forma de desarrollar su potencial comercial.

SABADO 28 DE AGOSTO - HOTEL IBIS - 10 a 14:30 hs.

1 - NegociaciC3n
Modelos Negociacionales
B?CC3mo definir mi estilo?
Como negociar ante objeciones
CC3mo obtener mis objetivos

2 - ComunicaciC3n
ComunicaciC3n Verbal
B?QuC) debo decir y quC) es mejor evitar decir?
Lenguaje NO Verbal
Posturas corporales 3 - Ejecutivos de atenciC3n al publico
CaracterC-sticas
Habilidades de servicio
Habilidades de retenciC3n

4 b Asesoramiento y venta
DetecciC3n de necesidades
Objetivos del cliente y del vendedor
CaptaciC3n y fidelizaciC3n de los clientes

Expositores:
Prof. Daniel Alcoba: Tecnico en administracion egresado de la EDA (UDELAR),
con especializacion en marketing (UDE) y amplia formacion en Uruguay y
Argentina. Docente egresado de INET, actualmente trabaja para una importante
firma financiera de la plaza local y a su vez es docente de instituciones
publicas y privadas.
Irineo Hagop Tavitian: Especializado en comunicacion y ventas, ha dictado
decenas de seminarios en Uruguay y el exterior, como consultor brindo
asistencia a mas de 200 empresas.
INFO-RESERVAS
Montevideo: 314 1688 / 315 3330 (de 10 a 20 horas.)
Aranceles: 950 pesos uruguayos (inscribiC)ndose hasta el 25/8/2010: $ 750).
Entran 3 y pagan 2.
Se entrega material extra y certificado. Pago mediante cobrador, Abitab o
BROU. Financia OCA, VISA y MASTER.
RESERVE CON TIEMPO, CUPOS LIMITADOS.



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Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm

2010-08-17 Thread LEVAI Daniel
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 09:30:57 +0200, Tomas Bodzar wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 did someone saw similar problem in scrotwm(1)? Eg. when I start
 xeyes(1) on empty workspace from menu M-p it simply shut down X.
Wish I hadn't tried it :) Yes, it happens here too.

[...]
 So someone here with similar behaviour?

Yep!


Daniel

-- 
LIVAI Daniel
PGP key ID = 0x83B63A8F
Key fingerprint = DBEC C66B A47A DFA2 792D  650C C69B BE4C 83B6 3A8F



Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm

2010-08-17 Thread Jiri B.
 did someone saw similar problem in scrotwm(1)? Eg. when I start
 xeyes(1) on empty workspace from menu M-p it simply shut down X. If
 I start eg. xcalc(1) then everything is ok. Another problem is with
 xlock(1). When I want to lock my screen and start xlock(1) eg. this
 way 'xlock -mode atlantis' then my computer completely hangs and I
 must to turn it off with button on case. Last problem which I
 discovered is with warzone game. When I start it on empty workspace
 then it says that timing of monitor is not ok for this app and X is
 not working anymore and I must kill X from console.

 So someone here with similar behaviour?

scrotwm works OK for me with latest snapshot on Lenovo T400 (i386). But it

is incredebily slow comparable with same setup on Ubuntu :(



jirib



Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm

2010-08-17 Thread LEVAI Daniel
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 10:19:03 +0200, LEVAI Daniel wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 09:30:57 +0200, Tomas Bodzar wrote:
  Hi all,
  
  did someone saw similar problem in scrotwm(1)? Eg. when I start
  xeyes(1) on empty workspace from menu M-p it simply shut down X.
 Wish I hadn't tried it :) Yes, it happens here too.
 
 [...]
  So someone here with similar behaviour?
 
 Yep!
I'm sorry, here's my dmesg (and I'm using scrotwm-0.9.25 from packages):


OpenBSD 4.8 (GENERIC.MP) #358: Wed Aug 11 10:18:19 MDT 2010
dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP
cpu0: Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2400 @ 1.83GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.83 GHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,VMX,EST,TM2,xTPR,PDCM
real mem  = 2145808384 (2046MB)
avail mem = 2100715520 (2003MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 08/27/09, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd6b0, SMBIOS 
rev. 2.4 @ 0xe0010 (68 entries)
bios0: vendor LENOVO version 79ETE5WW (2.25 ) date 08/27/2009
bios0: LENOVO 2007FRG
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SSDT ECDT TCPA APIC MCFG HPET BOOT SSDT SSDT SSDT SSDT
acpi0: wakeup devices LID_(S3) SLPB(S3) LURT(S3) DURT(S3) EXP0(S4) EXP1(S4) 
EXP2(S4) EXP3(S4) PCI1(S4) USB0(S3) USB1(S3) USB2(S3) USB7(S3) HDEF(S4)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpiec0 at acpi0
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: apic clock running at 166MHz
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu1: Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2400 @ 1.83GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.83 GHz
cpu1: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,VMX,EST,TM2,xTPR,PDCM
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 1 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins
ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 2, remapped to apid 1
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (AGP_)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 2 (EXP0)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 3 (EXP1)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 4 (EXP2)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus 12 (EXP3)
acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 21 (PCI1)
acpicpu0 at acpi0: C3, C2, C1, PSS
acpicpu1 at acpi0: C3, C2, C1, PSS
acpipwrres0 at acpi0: PUBS
acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature 127 degC
acpitz1 at acpi0: critical temperature 99 degC
acpibtn0 at acpi0: LID_
acpibtn1 at acpi0: SLPB
acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT0 model 42T4511 serial 21826 type LION oem SANYO
acpibat1 at acpi0: BAT1 not present
acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit online
acpithinkpad0 at acpi0
acpidock0 at acpi0: GDCK not docked (0)
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xfe00 0xd/0x1000 0xd1000/0x1000 0xdc000/0x4000! 
0xe/0x1!
cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1829 MHz: speeds: 1833, 1333, 1000 MHz
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82945GM Host rev 0x03
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Intel 82945GM PCIE rev 0x03: apic 1 int 16 (irq 
11)
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 ATI Radeon Mobility X1400 rev 0x00
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
radeondrm0 at vga1: apic 1 int 16 (irq 11)
drm0 at radeondrm0
azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 Intel 82801GB HD Audio rev 0x02: apic 1 int 
17 (irq 11)
azalia0: codecs: Analog Devices AD1981HD, 0x/0x, using Analog Devices 
AD1981HD
audio0 at azalia0
ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x02: apic 1 int 20 
(irq 11)
pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
em0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 Intel PRO/1000MT (82573L) rev 0x00: apic 1 int 
16 (irq 11), address 00:16:41:aa:d2:70
ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x02: apic 1 int 21 
(irq 11)
pci3 at ppb2 bus 3
wpi0 at pci3 dev 0 function 0 Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG rev 0x02: apic 1 int 
17 (irq 11), MoW2, address 00:18:de:65:2d:37
ppb3 at pci0 dev 28 function 2 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x02: apic 1 int 22 
(irq 11)
pci4 at ppb3 bus 4
ppb4 at pci0 dev 28 function 3 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x02: apic 1 int 23 
(irq 11)
pci5 at ppb4 bus 12
uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: apic 1 int 16 
(irq 11)
uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: apic 1 int 17 
(irq 11)
uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: apic 1 int 18 
(irq 11)
uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 3 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: apic 1 int 19 
(irq 11)
ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: apic 1 int 19 
(irq 11)
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
ppb5 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BAM Hub-to-PCI rev 0xe2
pci6 at ppb5 bus 21
cbb0 at pci6 dev 0 function 0 TI PCI1510 CardBus rev 0x00: apic 1 int 16 (irq 
11)
cardslot0 at cbb0 slot 0 flags 0
cardbus0 at cardslot0: bus 22 device 0 cacheline 0x8, lattimer 0xb0
pcmcia0 at cardslot0
ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801GBM LPC rev 0x02: PM disabled
pciide0 at 

Re: help on rewriting ftp-proxy rules for 4.7 up

2010-08-17 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Dimitar Vassilev dimitar.vassi...@gmail.com writes:

 $tg_in on $ext_if inet proto udp from any to any port=syslog
 $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags P/FSRPAUEW
 $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags FPU/FSRPAUEW
 $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags FPU/FPU
 $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags /FSRA
 $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags FS/FSRA
 $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags FSPU/FSPRAU
 $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags FPU/FSRPAU
 $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags /FSRPAU
 $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags F/FSRA
 $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags U/FSRAU
 $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags S/FSRPAU
 $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags P/FSRPAU
 $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags A/A
 $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags P/P

Each time I see this or something like it, I'm equally baffled.  

If you understand what this does and you can point to any actual
benefit compared to a simple 'block' default at the very top of your
rule set, please enlighten the rest of us.  Explain each of these
lines, what they do in real life network traffic, and do back it all
up with tcpdump output (annotated if need be) and reproducible numbers
and statistics.

(otherwise, we will call it 'flags wanking', nevermind the quick gushers)

- P

-- 
Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team
http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.bsdly.net/ http://www.nuug.no/
Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic
delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.



[OT] securely sharing documents on OpenBSD?

2010-08-17 Thread Matt

Quite possibly more of a 'which software' question:

I am looking for a way to have two parties share documents securely 
through an OpenBSD server.
User A can not look into directory B but is allowed in dir C, that sort 
of thing. Sharing occurs through untrusted / changing networks.


Obviously a simple SFTP structure seems to cut it, but would require all 
users (different platforms) to install sftp clients.
Is there anything else (preferably in ports) that could do this better / 
prettier ?


Thanks!



Re: [OT] securely sharing documents on OpenBSD?

2010-08-17 Thread Joel Wiramu Pauling
Any reason why you can't just use https and webserver?

On 17 August 2010 22:27, Matt open...@women-at-work.org wrote:
 Quite possibly more of a 'which software' question:

 I am looking for a way to have two parties share documents securely through
 an OpenBSD server.
 User A can not look into directory B but is allowed in dir C, that sort of
 thing. Sharing occurs through untrusted / changing networks.

 Obviously a simple SFTP structure seems to cut it, but would require all
 users (different platforms) to install sftp clients.
 Is there anything else (preferably in ports) that could do this better /
 prettier ?

 Thanks!



Re: [OT] securely sharing documents on OpenBSD?

2010-08-17 Thread Jan Stary
On Aug 17 12:27:04, Matt wrote:
 Quite possibly more of a 'which software' question:

 I am looking for a way to have two parties share documents securely  
 through an OpenBSD server.
 User A can not look into directory B but is allowed in dir C, that sort  
 of thing. Sharing occurs through untrusted / changing networks.

 Obviously a simple SFTP structure seems to cut it, but would require all  
 users (different platforms) to install sftp clients.

What's the problem with that?
Or scp clients.

 Is there anything else (preferably in ports) that could do this better /  
 prettier ?

Nothing that wouldn't require to be installed.



Re: No VLAN Tag seen by switch on CARP interface on VLAN interface

2010-08-17 Thread Steve Johnson
Excellent, thanks a lot for the reply! Really appreciated. I'll try this 
out today and will update with results.


Steve

On 08/16/2010 06:58 PM, Stuart Henderson wrote:

On 2010-08-16, Steve Johnsonmaill...@sjohnson.info  wrote:

Hi,

I'm really sorry to resend about this, but I have tried to do this in
many different ways and can't figure out anything more. I'm about to do
a change and add physical network card to remove VLANs from this FW
altogether, but since we would much rather have VLANs functioning, and
that by the looks of it it should be, I thought I'd ask just one last
time in case someone else sees this and might have a hint.


Newsgroups: gmane.os.openbsd.misc
From: Stuart Hendersons...@spacehopper.org
Subject: Re: No VLAN Tag seen by switch on CARP interface on VLAN interface
References:4c584a70.2030...@sjohnson.info
  4c5affb1.3080...@sjohnson.info  4c5ffa50.1020...@sjohnson.info
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 10:35:55 +0100
User-Agent: slrn/0.9.9p1 (OpenBSD)
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Message-ID:slrn3vfsi627br.d2t@naiad.spacehopper.org

On 2010-08-09, Steve Johnsonmaill...@sjohnson.info  wrote:

Sorry about forgetting dmesg, thanks for the info about inline/pastebin.
Since this was very long information, I really wasn't sure. Here are all
the details inline:


Thanks, you will need to apply this patch (from r1.242 of
/sys/dev/pci/if_em.c), and rebuild a kernel. Alternatively
move to -current where it's fixed.

Index: if_em.c
===
RCS file: /cvs/src/sys/dev/pci/if_em.c,v
retrieving revision 1.241
retrieving revision 1.242
diff -u -p -r1.241 -r1.242
--- if_em.c 26 Jul 2010 19:21:24 -  1.241
+++ if_em.c 3 Aug 2010 16:21:52 -   1.242
@@ -1816,7 +1816,8 @@ em_setup_interface(struct em_softc *sc)
ifp-if_capabilities = IFCAP_VLAN_MTU;

  #if NVLAN  0
-   ifp-if_capabilities |= IFCAP_VLAN_HWTAGGING;
+   if (sc-hw.mac_type != em_82575)
+   ifp-if_capabilities |= IFCAP_VLAN_HWTAGGING;
  #endif

  #ifdef EM_CSUM_OFFLOAD




Re: help on rewriting ftp-proxy rules for 4.7 up

2010-08-17 Thread Dimitar Vassilev
2010/8/17 Peter N. M. Hansteen pe...@bsdly.net:
 Dimitar Vassilev dimitar.vassi...@gmail.com writes:

 $tg_in on $ext_if inet proto udp from any to any port=syslog
 $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags P/FSRPAUEW
 $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags FPU/FSRPAUEW
 $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags FPU/FPU
 $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags /FSRA
 $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags FS/FSRA
 $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags FSPU/FSPRAU
 $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags FPU/FSRPAU
 $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags /FSRPAU
 $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags F/FSRA
 $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags U/FSRAU
 $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags S/FSRPAU
 $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags P/FSRPAU
 $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags A/A
 $tg_in on $ext_if from any to any flags P/P

 Each time I see this or something like it, I'm equally baffled.

 If you understand what this does and you can point to any actual
 benefit compared to a simple 'block' default at the very top of your
 rule set, please enlighten the rest of us. B Explain each of these
 lines, what they do in real life network traffic, and do back it all
 up with tcpdump output (annotated if need be) and reproducible numbers
 and statistics.

 (otherwise, we will call it 'flags wanking', nevermind the quick gushers)

 - P

 --
 Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team
 http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.bsdly.net/ http://www.nuug.no/
 Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic
 delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.



Long time ago ( circa 2002-2005) i think it was a way to keep a
relatively low profile from port scanners. Now days probably it
doesn't really matter as the guys running the thing will not get to
one easily anyway provided one keeps good network hygiene.

You're right that block all is better and from there on feel free to
do whatever you want.
Reading the dox again for ftp-proxy on fresh head gave me a clue that
I have not taken the
-T   option properly


anchor ftp-proxy/*
pass in quick proto tcp to port ftp rdr-to 127.0.0.1 port 8021

should go something like

match in quick proto tcp to port ftp tagged ftpclients rdr-to
127.0.0.1 port 8021

when -T is used.
Anyway removed the -T option, left only the debug and verbose ones, then set


# filter rules and anchor for ftp-proxy(8)
anchor ftp-proxy/*
pass in quick proto tcp to port ftp rdr-to 127.0.0.1 port 8021
pass  in quick on $usr_if proto tcp from $usr_if:network to any port
ftp rdr-to 127.0.0.1 port 8021 synproxy state


Still can simplify by combining the rules together, but it works for me.
Thanks for the attention.
Once you haven't ridden a horse for a long time, it may happen that
you get thrown a few times until you remember how it's done.

Thanks and have a great day!

Dimitar



Re: [OT] securely sharing documents on OpenBSD?

2010-08-17 Thread Matt

 Any reason why you can't just use https and webserver?

No, not really, apart from the overhead / possible security problems of 
code layers.

Is there any specific webbased solution you'd recommend on https ?



Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm

2010-08-17 Thread Marco Peereboom
dmesg?

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 10:24:17AM +0200, Jiri B. wrote:
  did someone saw similar problem in scrotwm(1)? Eg. when I start
  xeyes(1) on empty workspace from menu M-p it simply shut down X. If
  I start eg. xcalc(1) then everything is ok. Another problem is with
  xlock(1). When I want to lock my screen and start xlock(1) eg. this
  way 'xlock -mode atlantis' then my computer completely hangs and I
  must to turn it off with button on case. Last problem which I
  discovered is with warzone game. When I start it on empty workspace
  then it says that timing of monitor is not ok for this app and X is
  not working anymore and I must kill X from console.
 
  So someone here with similar behaviour?
 
 scrotwm works OK for me with latest snapshot on Lenovo T400 (i386). But it
 
 is incredebily slow comparable with same setup on Ubuntu :(
 
 
 
 jirib



Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm

2010-08-17 Thread Marco Peereboom
I bet that is the controlled shut down where applications create windows
and then destroy them before scrotwm can focus on them.  I fixed this in
cvs and would appreciate a test report.  CVS instructions are on the www
scrotwm page and it conveniently installs over the pkg.

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 09:30:57AM +0200, Tomas Bodzar wrote:
 Hi all,

 did someone saw similar problem in scrotwm(1)? Eg. when I start
 xeyes(1) on empty workspace from menu M-p it simply shut down X. If
 I start eg. xcalc(1) then everything is ok. Another problem is with
 xlock(1). When I want to lock my screen and start xlock(1) eg. this
 way 'xlock -mode atlantis' then my computer completely hangs and I
 must to turn it off with button on case. Last problem which I
 discovered is with warzone game. When I start it on empty workspace
 then it says that timing of monitor is not ok for this app and X is
 not working anymore and I must kill X from console.

 So someone here with similar behaviour?


 OpenBSD 4.8 (GENERIC.MP) #356: Mon Aug  9 00:28:02 MDT 2010
 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP
 RTC BIOS diagnostic error 11memory_size
 cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7500 @ 2.93GHz (GenuineIntel
 686-class) 2.93 GHz
 cpu0:

FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS

H,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3
 ,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,XSAVE
 real mem  = 3487125504 (3325MB)
 avail mem = 3420106752 (3261MB)
 mainbus0 at root
 bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 02/13/10, BIOS32 rev. 0 @
 0xffea0, SMBIOS rev. 2.5 @ 0xf0450 (82 entries)
 bios0: vendor Dell Inc. version A03 date 02/13/2010
 bios0: Dell Inc. OptiPlex 780
 acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
 acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5
 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SSDT APIC BOOT ASF! MCFG HPET DMAR SLIC SSDT SSDT
 SSDT
 acpi0: wakeup devices VBTN(S4) PCI0(S5) PCI4(S5) PCI3(S5) PCI1(S5)
 PCI5(S5) PCI6(S5) MOU_(S3) USB0(S3) USB1(S3) USB2(S3) USB3(S3)
 USB4(S3) USB5(S3)
 acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
 acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
 cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
 cpu0: apic clock running at 265MHz
 cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
 cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7500 @ 2.93GHz (GenuineIntel
 686-class) 2.93 GHz
 cpu1:

FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS

H,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3
 ,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,XSAVE
 ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 8 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins
 ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 8
 acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
 acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 4 (PCI4)
 acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 2 (PCI2)
 acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 3 (PCI3)
 acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 1 (PCI1)
 acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (PCI5)
 acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (PCI6)
 acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
 acpicpu0 at acpi0: C1, PSS
 acpicpu1 at acpi0: C1, PSS
 acpibtn0 at acpi0: VBTN
 bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x1 0xd/0x2000! 0xd2000/0x2800!
 0xd4800/0x3800
 cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 2926 MHz: speeds: 2933, 2667, 2400, 2133,
 1867, 1600 MHz
 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
 pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel Q45 Host rev 0x03
 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Intel Q45 PCIE rev 0x03: apic 8 int 16 (irq
 11)
 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
 vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 ATI Radeon HD 3470 rev 0x00
 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
 wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
 radeondrm0 at vga1: apic 8 int 16 (irq 11)
 drm0 at radeondrm0
 em0 at pci0 dev 25 function 0 Intel ICH10 D BM LM rev 0x02: apic 8
 int 21 (irq 10), address XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX
 uhci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 0 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
 int 16 (irq 11)
 uhci1 at pci0 dev 26 function 1 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
 int 17 (irq 9)
 uhci2 at pci0 dev 26 function 2 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
 int 22 (irq 3)
 ehci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 7 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
 int 22 (irq 3)
 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
 uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
 azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 Intel 82801JD HD Audio rev 0x02:
 apic 8 int 16 (irq 11)
 azalia0: codecs: Analog Devices AD1984A
 audio0 at azalia0
 ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801JD PCIE rev 0x02: apic 8
 int 16 (irq 11)
 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
 ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 Intel 82801JD PCIE rev 0x02: apic 8
 int 17 (irq 9)
 pci3 at ppb2 bus 3
 uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
 int 23 (irq 10)
 uhci4 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
 int 17 (irq 9)
 uhci5 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
 int 18 (irq 10)
 ehci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
 int 23 (irq 10)
 usb1 at ehci1: USB revision 2.0
 uhub1 at usb1 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
 ppb3 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BA Hub-to-PCI rev 0xa2
 pci4 at ppb3 

Re: [OT] securely sharing documents on OpenBSD?

2010-08-17 Thread Jiri B.
what's up with vpn and samba?

jirib



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Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm

2010-08-17 Thread Tomas Bodzar
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote:
 I bet that is the controlled shut down where applications create windows
 and then destroy them before scrotwm can focus on them. B I fixed this in
 cvs and would appreciate a test report. B CVS instructions are on the www
 scrotwm page and it conveniently installs over the pkg.


So time for update? :-)

 On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 09:30:57AM +0200, Tomas Bodzar wrote:
 Hi all,

 did someone saw similar problem in scrotwm(1)? Eg. when I start
 xeyes(1) on empty workspace from menu M-p it simply shut down X. If
 I start eg. xcalc(1) then everything is ok. Another problem is with
 xlock(1). When I want to lock my screen and start xlock(1) eg. this
 way 'xlock -mode atlantis' then my computer completely hangs and I
 must to turn it off with button on case. Last problem which I
 discovered is with warzone game. When I start it on empty workspace
 then it says that timing of monitor is not ok for this app and X is
 not working anymore and I must kill X from console.

 So someone here with similar behaviour?


 OpenBSD 4.8 (GENERIC.MP) #356: Mon Aug B 9 00:28:02 MDT 2010
 B  B  dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP
 RTC BIOS diagnostic error 11memory_size
 cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7500 @ 2.93GHz (GenuineIntel
 686-class) 2.93 GHz
 cpu0:

FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS

H,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3
 ,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,XSAVE
 real mem B = 3487125504 (3325MB)
 avail mem = 3420106752 (3261MB)
 mainbus0 at root
 bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 02/13/10, BIOS32 rev. 0 @
 0xffea0, SMBIOS rev. 2.5 @ 0xf0450 (82 entries)
 bios0: vendor Dell Inc. version A03 date 02/13/2010
 bios0: Dell Inc. OptiPlex 780
 acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
 acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5
 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SSDT APIC BOOT ASF! MCFG HPET DMAR SLIC SSDT SSDT
 SSDT
 acpi0: wakeup devices VBTN(S4) PCI0(S5) PCI4(S5) PCI3(S5) PCI1(S5)
 PCI5(S5) PCI6(S5) MOU_(S3) USB0(S3) USB1(S3) USB2(S3) USB3(S3)
 USB4(S3) USB5(S3)
 acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
 acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
 cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
 cpu0: apic clock running at 265MHz
 cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
 cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7500 @ 2.93GHz (GenuineIntel
 686-class) 2.93 GHz
 cpu1:

FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUS

H,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3
 ,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,XSAVE
 ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 8 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins
 ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 8
 acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
 acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 4 (PCI4)
 acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 2 (PCI2)
 acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 3 (PCI3)
 acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 1 (PCI1)
 acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (PCI5)
 acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (PCI6)
 acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
 acpicpu0 at acpi0: C1, PSS
 acpicpu1 at acpi0: C1, PSS
 acpibtn0 at acpi0: VBTN
 bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x1 0xd/0x2000! 0xd2000/0x2800!
 0xd4800/0x3800
 cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 2926 MHz: speeds: 2933, 2667, 2400, 2133,
 1867, 1600 MHz
 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
 pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel Q45 Host rev 0x03
 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Intel Q45 PCIE rev 0x03: apic 8 int 16
(irq
 11)
 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
 vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 ATI Radeon HD 3470 rev 0x00
 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
 wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
 radeondrm0 at vga1: apic 8 int 16 (irq 11)
 drm0 at radeondrm0
 em0 at pci0 dev 25 function 0 Intel ICH10 D BM LM rev 0x02: apic 8
 int 21 (irq 10), address XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX
 uhci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 0 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
 int 16 (irq 11)
 uhci1 at pci0 dev 26 function 1 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
 int 17 (irq 9)
 uhci2 at pci0 dev 26 function 2 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
 int 22 (irq 3)
 ehci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 7 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
 int 22 (irq 3)
 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
 uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
 azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 Intel 82801JD HD Audio rev 0x02:
 apic 8 int 16 (irq 11)
 azalia0: codecs: Analog Devices AD1984A
 audio0 at azalia0
 ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801JD PCIE rev 0x02: apic 8
 int 16 (irq 11)
 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
 ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 Intel 82801JD PCIE rev 0x02: apic 8
 int 17 (irq 9)
 pci3 at ppb2 bus 3
 uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
 int 23 (irq 10)
 uhci4 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
 int 17 (irq 9)
 uhci5 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
 int 18 (irq 10)
 ehci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801JD USB rev 0x02: apic 8
 int 23 (irq 10)
 usb1 at ehci1: USB revision 2.0
 uhub1 at usb1 Intel EHCI 

Re: [OT] securely sharing documents on OpenBSD?

2010-08-17 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:27:04PM +0200, Matt wrote:
 Quite possibly more of a 'which software' question:
 
 I am looking for a way to have two parties share documents securely
 through an OpenBSD server.
 User A can not look into directory B but is allowed in dir C, that
 sort of thing. Sharing occurs through untrusted / changing networks.
 
 Obviously a simple SFTP structure seems to cut it, but would require
 all users (different platforms) to install sftp clients.
 Is there anything else (preferably in ports) that could do this
 better / prettier ?

SFTP is a really good idea, and supported by most graphical FTP
clients. An FTP server will also work, but FTP-over-SSL is not quite
universally supported.

Otherwise, a simple website should work? I'm sure someone's written
software for that (if all else fails, I'm pretty certain that Horde
includes such functionality, but it's massively overkill.)

If you're willing to drop the through an OpenBSD server part, I've
heard very good things about Dropbox. (Note that there is no native
OpenBSD client; but the web interface should work, though.)

Joachim

-- 
TFMotD: Net::NNTP (3p) - NNTP Client class



Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm

2010-08-17 Thread Jacob Yocom-Piatt

LEVAI Daniel wrote:

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 09:30:57 +0200, Tomas Bodzar wrote:


Hi all,

did someone saw similar problem in scrotwm(1)? Eg. when I start
xeyes(1) on empty workspace from menu M-p it simply shut down X.


Wish I hadn't tried it :) Yes, it happens here too.

[...]


So someone here with similar behaviour?


Yep!




not sure if it is the same bug but i have seen ephemeral windows e.g. 
the little Sending mail... windows from seamonkey's mail client cause 
scrotwm to crash. there is a patch to stop the crashing behavior in the 
current cvs version. checkout cvs and see if your problem persists:


cvs -d anon...@anoncvs.freedaemon.com:/scrotwm co scrotwm
cd scrotwm
make obj  make depend  make  sudo make -DDEBUG install
- issue M-q to soft restart scrotwm using the freshly installed binary
- issue M-S-v to verify you are running the cvs version, should be 1.300

when i had scrotwm crashing, it would drop .core files and you can do a 
decent backtrace with gdb when you have the symbols in there. run 'gdb 
/usr/local/bin/scrotwm scrotwm.core' and issue 'bt full'. this output is 
helpful for finding the bug(s) you're hitting.




Re: anyone tried the freebsd version of teamspeak3 with the freebsd emulation?

2010-08-17 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 10:12:50AM +0530, Siju George wrote:
 On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 11:48 PM, Frank Bax f...@sympatico.ca wrote:
 
  Siju George wrote:
 
  On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org
  wrote:
 
  On 2010-08-14, Sevan / Venture37 ventur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On 14 August 2010 10:46, Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org wrote:
 
  no, but in general you want to use Linux emulation not FreeBSD
  emulation.
  also, if it's threaded software, use GENERIC not GENERIC.MP.
 
  Hi Stuart,
  I'm just curious is that because of limitations in our freebsd
  compatibility layer?
 
  It's even less maintained than the linux one (and there's very little
  point in doing so; most things you might run as a binary are going to be
  available for Linux in either the same or a newer version as FreeBSD).
 
 
  You don't get sound in linux emulation right?
  I could never make sound work
 
 
 
  I'm running Ventrilo with linux emulation; does that count?
 
 
 It Counts Very much! Thanks a million :-)
 Do you get sound in Opera for flash?

yes.  a lot of flash audio uses 22.05kHz sample rates, so if your
audio device doesn't do 22.05kHz it either won't work or will sound
wrong.

-- 
jake...@sdf.lonestar.org
SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org



Re: [OT] securely sharing documents on OpenBSD?

2010-08-17 Thread Bret S. Lambert
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 02:19:07PM +0200, Jiri B. wrote:
 what's up with vpn and samba?

And what's the deal with airline food?!

/seinfeld

 
 jirib



Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm

2010-08-17 Thread Ted Unangst
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Tomas Bodzar tomas.bod...@gmail.com wrote:
 did someone saw similar problem in scrotwm(1)? Eg. when I start
 xeyes(1) on empty workspace from menu M-p it simply shut down X. If
 I start eg. xcalc(1) then everything is ok. Another problem is with
 xlock(1). When I want to lock my screen and start xlock(1) eg. this
 way 'xlock -mode atlantis' then my computer completely hangs and I
 must to turn it off with button on case. Last problem which I
 discovered is with warzone game. When I start it on empty workspace
 then it says that timing of monitor is not ok for this app and X is
 not working anymore and I must kill X from console.

For the record, it would be nice to test with a different window
manager.  Bugs in scrotwm do not count as bugs in OpenBSD.



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Re: undeadly article

2010-08-17 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 19:22:55 +0300 Mihai Popescu B.S.
mihai...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I have read the undeadly.org article about how to play with airport
 security. I don't know who is the guy acting like this on an airport,
 but my brain triggered something I read in the past, about a well
 known guy from open source who was throw out from an airplane by the
 security team.
 
 Just my thought, maybe not related to misc ... but I think this story
 is not in the line of good old undeadly.
 

Hi Mihai,

I wanted to thank you for both reading the articles on www.undeadly.org
but more importantly, I wanted to thank you for voicing your opinion.
You could have voiced your opinion on undeadly in the comments, rather
than here on misc@ but I somewhat understand why you decided to use the
mailing list instead.  Comparing me to insane antics of Richard Stallman
is an extremely offensive opinion, so you probably worried your opinion
would have been deleted from undeadly.

You didn't need to worry. On undeadly, we let conflicting opinions
stand.  Only with reluctance will we delete the most blatant spam/libel
(i.e. trolls) to keep the site usable.

My article was just a humorous retelling of the very typical problems
seen by people traveling.  The trouble with humor is it can make no
sense across language or cultural barriers.  I like to think the world
is a better place when we can laugh, but unfortunately, due to cultural
and language differences, some people will not understand or appreciate
all of the jokes.

If you asked me to understand a language other than English, I would
fail miserably, but if you asked me to understand jokes in another
language or from another culture, I would fail even worse. You would
have to explain the jokes to me, and even then I might not get them due
to lack of experience.

If you really want to understand all of the pointed humor in the
article, you'll need to do a lot of reading and learning. For example,
the phrase U.S. Department of Homeland Theatrics I used in the article
is pointed joke referring to the phrase Security Theater originated by
Bruce Schneier. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_theater
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Schneier
http://www.schneier.com

The complete nonsense Jacob Meuser (jakemsr@), Jim Razmus (jim@) and I
went through at Canadian Customs not only highlights ineffective and
fake security measures, but also shows the lack of understanding most 
people have of open source software. All of us were very glad to be done
wasting our time with pointless questions from ignorant people. We did
not cause or prolong their nonsense, instead we complied their requests
and suffered through their nonsense like all rational people do. 

As for laughing about it and laughing at them afterwards, as well as
laughing publicly, this is a good and even beneficial response. The more
people who openly laugh at fake security, the better everyone will be.

I'm sorry you did not see the humor or the points in the article, but it
was better for me to try to write an entertaining but pointed article
involving the issues everyone faces when traveling. I will agree it was
not a typical, highly technical article for undeadly, but I hope you
realize we work on undeadly for fun, so occasionally breaking up the
technical bits with joking around should be expected.

kind regards,
jcr

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Re: undeadly article

2010-08-17 Thread Paul Irofti
jcr, please forgive my fellow romanian as us gypsies don't get to travel
much and don't know the mysteries of these flying birds and their inner
workings.



Re: undeadly article

2010-08-17 Thread Marius ROMAN
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Paul Irofti p...@irofti.net wrote:
 jcr, please forgive my fellow romanian as us gypsies don't get to travel
 much and don't know the mysteries of these flying birds and their inner
 workings.



Am zis !



Re: undeadly article

2010-08-17 Thread Mike Erdely
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 07:30:55PM +0300, Paul Irofti wrote:
 jcr, please forgive my fellow romanian as us gypsies don't get to travel
 much and don't know the mysteries of these flying birds and their inner
 workings.

Gypsies who don't travel, eh?

-ME



Re: undeadly article

2010-08-17 Thread Bret S. Lambert
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 01:50:55PM -0400, Mike Erdely wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 07:30:55PM +0300, Paul Irofti wrote:
  jcr, please forgive my fellow romanian as us gypsies don't get to travel
  much and don't know the mysteries of these flying birds and their inner
  workings.
 
 Gypsies who don't travel, eh?

They just make your shit theirs with the power of their *mind*

 
 -ME



Re: undeadly article

2010-08-17 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 19:30:55 +0300 Paul Irofti p...@irofti.net wrote:

 jcr, please forgive my fellow romanian as us gypsies don't get to
 travel much and don't know the mysteries of these flying birds and
 their inner workings.

It's really not a big deal, and Mihai's criticism (or any criticism) is
worth consideration. Instead of being offended, I tried to see what went
wrong. I'm still terribly new to writing articles, but I'm trying to
learn from any feedback I receive, positive or negative.

On a lighter note, if you and Mihai want to send me your best Romanian
jokes in Romanian, I'm sure I can misinterpret them. ;)

jcr

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6to4

2010-08-17 Thread Tor Houghton
Just wanted to say, 6to4 was a doddle, thanks for the effort in making 
it so effortless.

Tor



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Re: Some apps kill/hang X when using scrotwm(1) as wm

2010-08-17 Thread Jiri B.
On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 06:40:21 -0500
Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote:

 dmesg?

I have to first eliminate potential involvement of i/o slowdown because
of big use of softraid (i have everything except '/' on softraid).

 On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 10:24:17AM +0200, Jiri B. wrote:
   did someone saw similar problem in scrotwm(1)? Eg. when I start
   xeyes(1) on empty workspace from menu M-p it simply shut down
   X. If I start eg. xcalc(1) then everything is ok. Another problem
   is with xlock(1). When I want to lock my screen and start
   xlock(1) eg. this way 'xlock -mode atlantis' then my computer
   completely hangs and I must to turn it off with button on case.
   Last problem which I discovered is with warzone game. When I
   start it on empty workspace then it says that timing of monitor
   is not ok for this app and X is not working anymore and I must
   kill X from console.
  
   So someone here with similar behaviour?
  
  scrotwm works OK for me with latest snapshot on Lenovo T400 (i386).
  But it
  
  is incredebily slow comparable with same setup on Ubuntu :(

Anyway, this always makes my scrotwm to be f*cked up:

`mplayer -fs -vo sdl video'

jirib



Re: undeadly article

2010-08-17 Thread Christiano F. Haesbaert
On 17 August 2010 14:50, Mike Erdely m...@erdelynet.com wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 07:30:55PM +0300, Paul Irofti wrote:
 jcr, please forgive my fellow romanian as us gypsies don't get to travel
 much and don't know the mysteries of these flying birds and their inner
 workings.

 Gypsies who don't travel, eh?


They have social security now, Go Go Gypsies !



Re: undeadly article

2010-08-17 Thread Diana Eichert

On Tue, 17 Aug 2010, Paul Irofti wrote:


jcr, please forgive my fellow romanian as us gypsies don't get to travel
much and don't know the mysteries of these flying birds and their inner
workings.


but Paul, y'all have great horse driven carriages.



Re: undeadly article

2010-08-17 Thread Miod Vallat
 jcr, please forgive my fellow romanian as us gypsies don't get to travel
 much and don't know the mysteries of these flying birds and their inner
 workings.
 
 but Paul, y'all have great horse driven carriages.
 
Do they live in an Amish Paradise too?



Re: [OT] securely sharing documents on OpenBSD?

2010-08-17 Thread ropers
On 17 August 2010 13:48, Matt open...@women-at-work.org wrote:
 Any reason why you can't just use https and webserver?

 No, not really, apart from the overhead / possible security problems of code
 layers.
 Is there any specific webbased solution you'd recommend on https ?

Are you aware of WebDAV?
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebDAV

Packages for a bunch of clients and servers are available, including
Apache mod_dav @
OpenBSD/4.7/packages/i386/mod_dav-1.0.3p8.tgz

  NB: Whatever happened to the web pages describing individual packages?
  They used to exist up to 4.6 at e.g.
http://www.openbsd.org/4.6_packages/i386/mod_dav-1.0.3p7.tgz-long.html
  and I at least found them helpful.

Some web browsers work as WebDAV clients as well (it's basically the
same HTTP protocol, just with defined methods). WebDAV also works
pretty much out of the box in Windows (there called Web Folders) and
OS X. Wikipedia says that on Windows and OS X at least, WebDAV can be
used with HTTPS (as opposed to plain HTTP), and one suspects that
WebDAV/HTTPS is also possible with free solutions.

However, I dimly recall recommending WebDAV before on this list,
whereupon some of the wiser and smarter list member then pointed out
some limitations WebDAV has. But I don't really remember the details
and cursory googling revealed nothing.

regards,
--ropers



Smtpd use

2010-08-17 Thread openbsd
Hi,
Today, i tried to build a mailserver for one domain : totoxx.org
Here my smtpd.conf :

listen on lo0
listen on em0
hostname puffymail.my.domain
map aliases { source db /etc/mail/aliases.db }
map virtual { source db /etc/mail/virtual.db }
accept for local deliver to mbox
accept from all for domain totoxx.org deliver to box

I ve a user : contact on the box.

And here my virtual file :
cont...@totoxx.org:   contact

I can receive mails. It works good.
But how can i send mail? i need to use sendmail? How can i modify my
configuration to send emails ?
Thank's for your advices.



Re: Smtpd use

2010-08-17 Thread Bret S. Lambert
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:24:37PM +0400, open...@e-solutions.re wrote:
 Hi,
 Today, i tried to build a mailserver for one domain : totoxx.org
 Here my smtpd.conf :
 
 listen on lo0
 listen on em0
 hostname puffymail.my.domain
 map aliases { source db /etc/mail/aliases.db }
 map virtual { source db /etc/mail/virtual.db }
 accept for local deliver to mbox
 accept from all for domain totoxx.org deliver to box
 
 I ve a user : contact on the box.
 
 And here my virtual file :
 cont...@totoxx.org:   contact
 
 I can receive mails. It works good.
 But how can i send mail? i need to use sendmail? How can i modify my
 configuration to send emails ?
 Thank's for your advices.
 

The magic word is relay, IIRC.



Re: Smtpd use

2010-08-17 Thread openbsd
On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 21:34:56 +0200, Bret S. Lambert
 The magic word is relay, IIRC.

add accept for all relay to the end of my smtpd.conf ?



Re: Smtpd use

2010-08-17 Thread Bret S. Lambert
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:55:43PM +0400, open...@e-solutions.re wrote:
 On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 21:34:56 +0200, Bret S. Lambert
  The magic word is relay, IIRC.
 
 add accept for all relay to the end of my smtpd.conf ?

$ man smtpd.conf | grep accept for all relay
   accept for all relay via smtp.gmail.com tls enable auth
   accept for all relay
$ 

Sure. Why not.



Re: Smtpd use

2010-08-17 Thread openbsd
On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 21:57:03 +0200, Bret S. Lambert
 $ man smtpd.conf | grep accept for all relay
accept for all relay via smtp.gmail.com tls enable auth
accept for all relay
 $ 
 
 Sure. Why not.

Not what i want to do...
I wish to be able to receive mail for cont...@totoxx.org, it works fine.
But i wish also to send email using cont...@totoxx.org

Actually on my OpenBSD Mailserver, i can only receive emails, but how can
i send emails using the same box without a relay ?
Need an other MTA ? Smtpd not a good choice to build what i want ?



Re: undeadly article

2010-08-17 Thread Lars Nooden

On Tue, 17 Aug 2010, J.C. Roberts wrote:
... I'm trying to learn from any feedback I receive, positive or 
negative...


IMHO it was well-written.  Security Theatre is just a more harmful, very 
expensive, corporate version of Eat-a-Bug.


/Lars



Re: Smtpd use

2010-08-17 Thread Bret S. Lambert
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:09:31AM +0400, open...@e-solutions.re wrote:
 On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 21:57:03 +0200, Bret S. Lambert
  $ man smtpd.conf | grep accept for all relay
 accept for all relay via smtp.gmail.com tls enable auth
 accept for all relay
  $ 
  
  Sure. Why not.
 
 Not what i want to do...
 I wish to be able to receive mail for cont...@totoxx.org, it works fine.
 But i wish also to send email using cont...@totoxx.org
 
 Actually on my OpenBSD Mailserver, i can only receive emails, but how can
 i send emails using the same box without a relay ?

I'm assuming you mean you don't want an open mail relay. That's really up to
you (and we're rapidly reaching the end of how deep I can reach into my ass
for the purposes of pulling things out...);

The following is incorrect, but was far too amusing not to share:

accept from pimp.dat.ho relay to yermom.likes.it


check out what options you have in the realm of accept from $foo,
is where I would go with it.

 Need an other MTA ? Smtpd not a good choice to build what i want ?



Re: [OT] securely sharing documents on OpenBSD?

2010-08-17 Thread Lars Nooden

On Tue, 17 Aug 2010, Matt wrote:


Quite possibly more of a 'which software' question:
I am looking for a way to have two parties share documents securely through 
an OpenBSD server.
User A can not look into directory B but is allowed in dir C, that sort of 
thing. Sharing occurs through untrusted / changing networks.


Obviously a simple SFTP structure seems to cut it,


SFTP with chroot and using keys is by far the easiest way to achieve 
that.


but would require all users (different platforms) to install sftp 
clients.


I hope that is a misunderstanding.

Text-based clients are provided by default in all distros likely to be 
used on the desktop, with the exception of one...


Also, a growing number of file managers (such as Konqueror) already 
included SFTP support and all that is necessary is to punch in a URL.


If you mean extra, graphical SFTP clients, there are many others to choose 
from besides the file managers.  Filezilla is popular in some 
demographics, same for CyberDuck and Fugu.


Others have mentiond WebDAV, which is useful but harder to set up and 
maintain accounts.  Same for Samba, which is in ports.


OpenAFS/Arla is yet another option, but is overkill for small, 
centralized groups.


/Lars



Re: Smtpd use

2010-08-17 Thread Gilles Chehade
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:24:37PM +0400, open...@e-solutions.re wrote:
 Hi,

 Today, i tried to build a mailserver for one domain : totoxx.org
 Here my smtpd.conf :
 
 listen on lo0
 listen on em0
 hostname puffymail.my.domain
 map aliases { source db /etc/mail/aliases.db }
 map virtual { source db /etc/mail/virtual.db }
 accept for local deliver to mbox
 accept from all for domain totoxx.org deliver to box
 
 I ve a user : contact on the box.
 
 And here my virtual file :
 cont...@totoxx.org:   contact
 
 I can receive mails. It works good.
 But how can i send mail? i need to use sendmail? How can i modify my
 configuration to send emails ?
 Thank's for your advices.
 

your mail lacks essential information: what smtpd are you running ?
is it current ? in which case your configuration is broken
is it not current ? in which case you should run smtpd -current

Gilles

-- 
Gilles Chehade
freelance developer/sysadmin/consultant

   http://www.poolp.org



Re: undeadly article

2010-08-17 Thread Jordi Espasa

Christiano F. Haesbaert escribis:

On 17 August 2010 14:50, Mike Erdely m...@erdelynet.com wrote:

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 07:30:55PM +0300, Paul Irofti wrote:

jcr, please forgive my fellow romanian as us gypsies don't get to travel
much and don't know the mysteries of these flying birds and their inner
workings.

Gypsies who don't travel, eh?



They have social security now, Go Go Gypsies !


I suppose it's a kind of humour, but, anyway... shame on you.


--
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And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. 
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.




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Re: [OT] securely sharing documents on OpenBSD?

2010-08-17 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2010-08-17, Joachim Schipper joac...@joachimschipper.nl wrote:
 Otherwise, a simple website should work? I'm sure someone's written
 software for that

pkg_add mollify



Re: anyone tried the freebsd version of teamspeak3 with the freebsd emulation?

2010-08-17 Thread Siju George
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Jacob Meuser jake...@sdf.lonestar.org
wrote:

  It Counts Very much! Thanks a million :-)
  Do you get sound in Opera for flash?

 yes.  a lot of flash audio uses 22.05kHz sample rates, so if your
 audio device doesn't do 22.05kHz it either won't work or will sound
 wrong.


Oh thanks for the info :-)

--Siju