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Re: cardbus on sparc64
Ok, here you go ( hurra for machines with serial consoles :-) ok boot -s Boot device: /p...@1f,0/i...@d/d...@0,0 File and args: -s OpenBSD IEEE 1275 Bootblock 1.3 .. OpenBSD BOOT 1.3 Trying bsd... Booting /p...@1f,0/i...@d/d...@0,0:a/bsd 6372...@0x100+616@0x1613d98+190...@0x180+4004176@0x182e6b0 symbols @ 0xfef5e2c0 81+390912+244649 start=0x100 [ using 636360 bytes of bsd ELF symbol table ] console is /p...@1f,0/i...@7/ser...@0,3f8 Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Copyright (c) 1995-2010 OpenBSD. All rights reserved. http://www.OpenBSD.org OpenBSD 4.7 (GENERIC) #258: Wed Mar 17 23:40:34 MDT 2010 dera...@sparc64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/sparc64/compile/GENERIC real mem = 805306368 (768MB) avail mem = 768499712 (732MB) mainbus0 at root: Sun Blade 100 (UltraSPARC-IIe) cpu0 at mainbus0: SUNW,UltraSPARC-IIe (rev 1.4) @ 502 MHz cpu0: physical 16K instruction (32 b/l), 16K data (32 b/l), 256K external (64 b/l) psycho0 at mainbus0: pci108e,a001, impl 0, version 0, ign 7c0 psycho0: bus range 0-1, PCI bus 0 psycho0: dvma map c000-dfff pci0 at psycho0 ebus0 at pci0 dev 12 function 0 Sun RIO EBus rev 0x01 flashprom at ebus0 addr 0-f not configured clock1 at ebus0 addr 0-1fff: mk48t59 ebus1 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 Acer Labs M1533 ISA rev 0x00 dma at ebus1 addr 0- ivec 0x2a not configured power0 at ebus1 addr 800-82f ivec 0x20 com0 at ebus1 addr 3f8-3ff ivec 0x2b: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo com0: console com1 at ebus1 addr 2e8-2ef ivec 0x2b: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo gem0 at pci0 dev 12 function 1 Sun ERI Ether rev 0x01: ivec 0x7c6, address 00:03:ba:08:46:e8 ukphy0 at gem0 phy 1: Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface, rev. 1: OUI 0x0010dd, model 0x0002 Sun FireWire rev 0x01 at pci0 dev 12 function 2 not configured ohci0 at pci0 dev 12 function 3 Sun USB rev 0x01: ivec 0x7e4, version 1.0, legacy support alipm0 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 Acer Labs M7101 Power rev 0x00: 223KHz clock iic0 at alipm0 max1617 at alipm0 addr 0x18 skipped due to alipm0 bugs scm001 at alipm0 addr 0x20 skipped due to alipm0 bugs spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 256MB SDRAM ECC PC133CL2 spdmem1 at iic0 addr 0x51: 256MB SDRAM ECC PC133CL2 spdmem2 at iic0 addr 0x52: 256MB SDRAM ECC PC133CL2 autri0 at pci0 dev 8 function 0 Acer Labs M5451 Audio rev 0x01: ivec 0x7e3 ac97: codec id 0x41445348 (Analog Devices AD1881A) ac97: codec features headphone, Analog Devices Phat Stereo audio0 at autri0 midi0 at autri0: 4DWAVE MIDI UART pciide0 at pci0 dev 13 function 0 Acer Labs M5229 UDMA IDE rev 0xc3: DMA, channel 0 configured to native-PCI, channel 1 configured to native-PCI pciide0: using ivec 0x7cc for native-PCI interrupt wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: WDC WD200BB-60DGA0 wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 9541MB, 19541088 sectors atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 1 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: ATAPI, DVD A DH20A4H, QP59 ATAPI 5/cdrom removable wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2 cd0(pciide0:0:1): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 4 pciide0: channel 1 disabled (no drives) ppb0 at pci0 dev 5 function 0 DEC 21152 PCI-PCI rev 0x03 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 ral0 at pci1 dev 1 function 0 Ralink RT2560 rev 0x01: ivec 0x7ca, address 00:11:50:a8:c8:a2 ral0: MAC/BBP RT2560 (rev 0x04), RF RT2525 cbb0 at pci1 dev 2 function 0 Ricoh 5C475 CardBus rev 0x80: ivec 0x7d5 cardslot0 at cbb0 slot 0 flags 0 cardbus0 at cardslot0: bus 2 device 0 cacheline 0x0, lattimer 0x20 pcmcia0 at cardslot0 machfb0 at pci0 dev 19 function 0 ATI Rage XL rev 0x27 machfb0: ATY,RageXL, 1280x1024 wsdisplay0 at machfb0 mux 1 wsdisplay0: screen 0 added (std, sun emulation) usb0 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0 at usb0 Sun OHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 vscsi0 at root scsibus1 at vscsi0: 256 targets softraid0 at root bootpath: /p...@1f,0/i...@d,0/d...@0,0 root on wd0a swap on wd0b dump on wd0b WARNING: clock gained 2 days -- CHECK AND RESET THE DATE! Enter pathname of shell or RETURN for sh: # # pcidump -v -xx 1:2:0 1:2:0: Ricoh 5C475 CardBus 0x: Vendor ID: 1180 Product ID: 0475 0x0004: Command: 0047 Status ID: 0210 0x0008: Class: 06 Subclass: 07 Interface: 00 Revision: 80 0x000c: BIST: 00 Header Type: 02 Latency Timer: 40 Cache Line Size: 00 0x0010: Cardbus Control Registers Base Address: 03002000 0x0018: Primary Bus: 0 Cardbus Bus: 2 Subordinate Bus: 0 Cardbus Latency Timer: 20 0x001c: Memory Base 0: f000 0x0020: Memory Limit 0: 0x0024: Memory Base 1: f000 0x0028: Memory Limit 1: 0x002c: I/O Base 0: fffc 0x0030: I/O Limit 0: 0x0034: I/O Base 1: fffc 0x0038: I/O Limit 1: 0x003c: Interrupt Pin: 01 Line: 00 Bridge Control: 07c0 0x0040: Subsystem Vendor ID: 14ef Product ID: 0101 0x0044: 16-bit Legacy Mode Base Address: 0001
Re: Checking Routes/Gateways For Good Connection
On 26. aug. 2010, at 00.18, Don Tek wrote: I've recently implemented a firewall with two internet connections using multipath routing and round-robin outbound load balancing. I am looking for a solution from the shell to detect failure of these two internet gateways so I can force routing and pf changes from a script. I need something more robust than simply checking to see if the interface is up or down. I have managed a solution using traceroute that allows me to accomplish half of my goal. I can detect a failure and down that route, however, once I delete the default route from the routing table for the failed connection, I can no longer test it with traceroute. This is because it doesn't appear to me that OpenBSD's traceroute allows forcing an interface to work on. I am looking for better solutions from some of you more experienced users. Any suggestions are welcome. don.. Taking a look at the bigger picture, the 'correct' way to do this is to have redundancy at the firewall level as well at ISP link level. This gives higher availability, and makes your problem much easier. If you have a single ISP link per firewall then link testing is simple. Redundancy/LB is then managed by CARP between the two firewalls' _inside_ interfaces. /Pete
pf support
Hi, We need help/support with setting up a couple of pf firewalls with carp etc. and are of course willing to pay for it if we find the right resource. Please reply off list if you're interested or can recommend a company/person whom you think can help us. Thanks Johan Linnir
Re: pf support
Johan Linnir skrev 2010-08-26 13:26: Hi, We need help/support with setting up a couple of pf firewalls with carp etc. and are of course willing to pay for it if we find the right resource. Please reply off list if you're interested or can recommend a company/person whom you think can help us. Thanks Johan Linnir Sorry about the line length. Thunderbird 3.1.2 seems to ignore the 72 chars setting.
Re: pf support
alastair.john...@trinity.ox.ac.uk skrev 2010-08-26 13:38: You might get further if you said where you are in the world.. -Original Message- From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf Of Johan Linnir Sent: 26 August 2010 12:26 To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: pf support Hi, We need help/support with setting up a couple of pf firewalls with carp etc. and are of course willing to pay for it if we find the right resource. Please reply off list if you're interested or can recommend a company/person whom you think can help us. Thanks Johan Linnir Man, I am not that alert today. We're located in Sweden and can install and set up the servers for remote admin... /Johan
Re: pf support
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 01:26:25PM +0200, Johan Linnir wrote: We need help/support with setting up a couple of pf firewalls with carp etc. and are of course willing to pay for it if we find the right resource. Please reply off list if you're interested or can recommend a company/person whom you think can help us. I presume you are aware of http://www.openbsd.org/support.html? There are two listings in Sweden, some developers, etc. Joachim -- TFMotD: genassym.sh (8) - emit an assym.h file
cdce0: too many errors, disabling
Hi, I have a laptop connected to the Internet trough a cable modem plugged in to a usb port (cdce). For some unknown reason I receive in the logs this message: cdce0: usb error on rx: IOERROR cdce0: usb error on tx: IOERROR cdce0: too many errors, disabling After that the internet connection goes down and the only way to go back to normal is rebooting the laptop (not the cable modem). I tried to down the device with ifconfig and then go back to up. Does not work. Is there any way to enable the cdce device again from ksh? Why is this happening? Regards, Alvaro
Re: cdce0: too many errors, disabling
Also, I forgot to tell: The laptop is running OpenBSD 4.7 Regards, Alvaro Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez wrote: Hi, I have a laptop connected to the Internet trough a cable modem plugged in to a usb port (cdce). For some unknown reason I receive in the logs this message: cdce0: usb error on rx: IOERROR cdce0: usb error on tx: IOERROR cdce0: too many errors, disabling After that the internet connection goes down and the only way to go back to normal is rebooting the laptop (not the cable modem). I tried to down the device with ifconfig and then go back to up. Does not work. Is there any way to enable the cdce device again from ksh? Why is this happening? Regards, Alvaro
Re: pf support
Joachim Schipper skrev 2010-08-26 14:00: On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 01:26:25PM +0200, Johan Linnir wrote: We need help/support with setting up a couple of pf firewalls with carp etc. and are of course willing to pay for it if we find the right resource. Please reply off list if you're interested or can recommend a company/person whom you think can help us. I presume you are aware of http://www.openbsd.org/support.html? There are two listings in Sweden, some developers, etc. Joachim Yep. The Swedish listing seems a little outdated. And references are always nice. /Johan
Troubles suspending IBM laptop
Hello misc@, I'm recently having trouble suspending/hibernating an IBM X31 laptop. It used to work flawlessly with either the Fn+F4/F12 keys or with 'apm -z', but after a recent update (Aug. 24th snapshot) it won't anymore. The behavior I'm experiencing is that the suspend LED flashes, as it should, but the display remains active and then freezes (keyboard/mouse don't work at all) and I have to power down. If I'm in X then the display first switches to the console before freezing. It may be this commit that has changed things for me: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvsm=128207276025618w=2 Here's my dmesg: OpenBSD 4.8-current (GENERIC) #142: Tue Aug 24 19:46:33 MDT 2010 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1400MHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.40 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,TM,SBF,EST,TM2 real mem = 804220928 (766MB) avail mem = 781107200 (744MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 09/22/05, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd750, SMBIOS rev. 2.33 @ 0xe0010 (57 entries) bios0: vendor IBM version 1QET97WW (3.02 ) date 09/22/2005 bios0: IBM 2672C1U apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 apm0: battery life expectancy 9% apm0: AC on, battery charge high, charging acpi at bios0 function 0x0 not configured pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xfd6e0/0x920 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdea0/272 (15 entries) pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:31:0 (Intel 82371FB ISA rev 0x00) pcibios0: PCI bus #6 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x1 0xd/0x1000 0xd1000/0x1000 0xdc000/0x4000! 0xe/0x1 cpu0 at mainbus0: (uniprocessor) cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1427 MHz: speeds: 1400, 1200, 1000, 800, 600 MHz pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios) io address conflict 0x5800/0x8 io address conflict 0x5808/0x4 io address conflict 0x5810/0x8 io address conflict 0x580c/0x4 pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82855PM Host rev 0x03 intelagp0 at pchb0 agp0 at intelagp0: aperture at 0xd000, size 0x1000 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Intel 82855PM AGP rev 0x03 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 ATI Radeon Mobility M6 rev 0x00 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) radeondrm0 at vga1: irq 11 drm0 at radeondrm0 uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801DB USB rev 0x01: irq 11 uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801DB USB rev 0x01: irq 11 uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801DB USB rev 0x01: irq 11 ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801DB USB rev 0x01: irq 11 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 ppb1 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BAM Hub-to-PCI rev 0x81 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 mem address conflict 0xb000/0x1000 mem address conflict 0xb100/0x1000 cbb0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 Ricoh 5C476 CardBus rev 0xaa: irq 11 cbb1 at pci2 dev 0 function 1 Ricoh 5C476 CardBus rev 0xaa: irq 11 Ricoh 5C552 Firewire rev 0x02 at pci2 dev 0 function 2 not configured iwi0 at pci2 dev 2 function 0 Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG rev 0x05: irq 11, address 00:0e:35:70:5b:95 fxp0 at pci2 dev 8 function 0 Intel PRO/100 VE rev 0x81, i82562: irq 11, address 00:09:6b:bf:c6:63 inphy0 at fxp0 phy 1: i82562ET 10/100 PHY, rev. 0 cardslot0 at cbb0 slot 0 flags 0 cardbus0 at cardslot0: bus 3 device 0 cacheline 0x0, lattimer 0xb0 pcmcia0 at cardslot0 cardslot1 at cbb1 slot 1 flags 0 cardbus1 at cardslot1: bus 6 device 0 cacheline 0x0, lattimer 0xb0 pcmcia1 at cardslot1 ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801DBM LPC rev 0x01: 24-bit timer at 3579545Hz pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 Intel 82801DBM IDE rev 0x01: DMA, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: ST980815A wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 76319MB, 156301488 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5 pciide0: channel 1 disabled (no drives) ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 Intel 82801DB SMBus rev 0x01: irq 11 iic0 at ichiic0 spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 256MB DDR SDRAM non-parity PC2700CL2.5 spdmem1 at iic0 addr 0x51: 512MB DDR SDRAM non-parity PC2700CL2.5 auich0 at pci0 dev 31 function 5 Intel 82801DB AC97 rev 0x01: irq 11, ICH4 AC97 ac97: codec id 0x41445374 (Analog Devices AD1981B) ac97: codec features headphone, 20 bit DAC, No 3D Stereo audio0 at auich0 Intel 82801DB Modem rev 0x01 at pci0 dev 31 function 6 not configured usb1 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb2 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub2 at usb2 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb3 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0 uhub3 at usb3 Intel UHCI root hub rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 isa0 at ichpcib0 isadma0 at isa0 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pms0 at pckbc0 (aux slot)
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IPv6 calculator
Hello list, I just updated my IPv6 address calculator and thought it might find its use in OpenBSD. It shouldn't contain any security risk, is small enough not to bloat the tree and handy enough to help admins visualize and plan their network's addressing or set those crazy PTRs properly. As there is already net/ipv6calc port, which I don't really think is much of use (uncomfortable operation, missing useful information and containing lots of the irrelevant/unnecessary), there might be some confusion. Even if it would be rejected, I hope it can reach more people through the misc archives and helps to save them some time. Feel free to write comments and suggestions. You can get it here: http://cap.potazmo.cz/software/ipv6calc/ipv6calc.c -- Martin Pelikan
which kernel/OS ?
Hello, I'm building up an OpenBSD box on an Atom D510 (dual core) platform running -current . Use will be strictly as a firewall running PF. I've read that SMP doesn't really help PF, but it may assist in speeding up compiling when keeping up with -current. What are the tradeoffs here? Will the mp kernel harm PF performance? As x86 and amd64 are both supported are there any strong arguments for running either one? Thanks, Chris
Re: which kernel/OS ?
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Chris Smith obsd_m...@chrissmith.org wrote: I'm building up an OpenBSD box on an Atom D510 (dual core) platform running -current . Use will be strictly as a firewall running PF. I've read that SMP doesn't really help PF, but it may assist in speeding up compiling when keeping up with -current. What are the tradeoffs here? Will the mp kernel harm PF performance? As x86 and amd64 are both supported are there any strong arguments for running either one? You're not going to push enough traffic through an atom based system to notice any difference. (If you do notice a difference, it's a sign to get a real computer.) i386 and amd64 are pretty similar, except amd64 has a larger address space (rarely needed) and less shit works.
installation improvements
Just installed a snapshot on a Supermicro SYS-5015A-EHF and wanted to say how much I liked the installation improvements - the little things really do add up. Used the pxeboot for the first time as well - faster and easier than dealing with a usb drive and cheaper than buying an external CD drive. Chris
Re: Checking Routes/Gateways For Good Connection
On August 25, 2010 8:20 PM, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2010-08-26, David Gwynne l...@animata.net wrote: relayd can do this i think. afaik, it just uses the normal routing table, you can't force a specific interface/nexthop. if that's correct, to have relayd check connectivity beyond the gateways, you'll need static routes (e.g. host 8.8.8.8 via connection A, 208.67.222.222 via connection B) and use those hosts as an indicator. On 26/08/2010, at 9:10 AM, dontek wrote: I have managed a solution using traceroute that allows me to accomplish half of my goal. I can detect a failure and down that route, however, once I delete the default route from the routing table for the failed connection, I can no longer test it with traceroute. This is because it doesn't appear to me that OpenBSD's traceroute allows forcing an interface to work on. it may work to set the source address (ping -I, traceroute -s) and use a route-to pf rule to make sure packets with a specific source address are directed out of the relevant interface...though if you only have one address to play with for each connection you might be unable to distinguish check packets from normal packets. I tried out Stuart's suggestion with a couple of vether interfaces and it seems to have accomplished what I was looking for. Details: $ cat /etc/hostname.vether0 inet 172.16.0.1 255.255.255.0 NONE $ cat /etc/hostname.vether1 inet 172.16.1.1 255.255.255.0 NONE $ cat /etc/pf.conf (additions only) match out on $ext_if_1 from (vether0:network) nat-to ($ext_if_1) match out on $ext_if_2 from (vether1:network) nat-to ($ext_if_2) pass out on $ext_if_1 from (vether0) route-to ($ext_if_1 $ext_gate_1) pass out on $ext_if_2 from (vether1) route-to ($ext_if_2 $ext_gate_2) Tests: $ traceroute -s 172.16.0.1 -n google.com $ traceroute -s 172.16.1.1 -n google.com Once the above was done I could apply my traceroute scheme of testing to a script and/or integrate into ifstated. Thanks Stuart. otherwise maybe you can do something with multiple routing tables...
Re: Checking Routes/Gateways For Good Connection
On August 26, 2010 4:14 Pete Vickers wrote: On 26. aug. 2010, at 00.18, Don Tek wrote: I've recently implemented a firewall with two internet connections using multipath routing and round-robin outbound load balancing. I am looking for a solution from the shell to detect failure of these two internet gateways so I can force routing and pf changes from a script. I need something more robust than simply checking to see if the interface is up or down. I have managed a solution using traceroute that allows me to accomplish half of my goal. I can detect a failure and down that route, however, once I delete the default route from the routing table for the failed connection, I can no longer test it with traceroute. This is because it doesn't appear to me that OpenBSD's traceroute allows forcing an interface to work on. I am looking for better solutions from some of you more experienced users. Any suggestions are welcome. don.. Taking a look at the bigger picture, the 'correct' way to do this is to have redundancy at the firewall level as well at ISP link level. This gives higher availability, and makes your problem much easier. If you have a single ISP link per firewall then link testing is simple. Redundancy/LB is then managed by CARP between the two firewalls' _inside_ interfaces. /Pete I wish I could do this, but this particular client is as stingy as it gets with IT spending. They also aren't very concerned about redundancy. The only reason they even have two ISP's is because they don't employ any internal IT personnel and we try and do almost everything remotely, and, they insist on hosting file sharing for their road warriors internally and it was the cheapest route to more speed. Of course, the two ISP's are nothing more than DSL and DOCIS from two different companies which seem to flake out fairly often. At least if I can test on the one firewall, I can send notification and adjust routes when one of them goes down.
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