Re: Finicky Website and Outbound Load Balancing
On 2010-09-08, dontek wrote: > > I have a small issue with a particular website a client uses that does not > like the outbound load balancing I have put in place on their firewall. The > issue is, that form authentication to the site fails from the internal > network if the many requests the login generates get split between their two > ISP's. Accessing the website from the firewall itself does not incur the > same issue. > > I have put a band-aid on it by simply forcing all http traffic to that > particular site out only one of the ISP's. > > This works until that ISP fails and I have to down that route. While the > other route keeps internet access working, if the link that I have forced > this website to use is the one that dies, that site is no longer accessible > to the internal network. Since it sounds like you have a method that changes the routing for the default gateway when a connection fails, can you just extend that to changing the routing or route-to rules for this site as well (place the rules in an anchor and switch them over?) > I am looking for suggestions for a more elegant solution. Ideally, I think > that when a host on the internal network requests a login to this particular > site, if all traffic from that particular internal host could be directed > through the same gateway it initiated the connection on, all would work with > this website over either ISP and with the load balancing. Looking at > tcpdump output, all traffic is standard http. I can't even begin to think how you would write that as a PF rule even if it were implemented.. > If you have any suggestions on how this might be accomplished, or have any > insight as to why this is happening, please respond. Seems like it's just as simple as the website not allowing a session to be split between multiple IP addresses. This is not particularly uncommon (though usually when people do this, it's for security concerns, so they would also use https rather than http).
Re: OpenBSD 4.6 + carp + pf + pfsync lockup
2010/9/8, Joe Warren-Meeks : > I've had a weird problem happen twice now. It seems after about 4 - 6 > weeks of running very happily, both servers lock up completely at the > same time. Both consoles show no error messages, but the cursor is > blinking away happily. Neither console will take any input and the > only remedy is to power cycle them. There is nothing unusual in any of > the logfiles. > > # Set up some settings and configure for highish-load > # note we can up these if we need to, loads of RAM! I thought the same when I played with TCP buffers set to 1M and after some heavy load tests I went out of RAM quite soon :-) The machine had 2G. I assume ping doesn't work either. Have you raised the recv/send space? Have you tried entering ddb? (you need to set the sysctl before start) -- Martin Pelikan
Re: Distribute bandwidth by IP's
On 2010-09-07, roberth wrote: > > So just put ~150 (*2 for both directions) child queues in your config. queues are per-interface anyway, so there's no need for the *2 in the config (and the associated headaches in assigning traffic to the correct queue) altq on some_if cbq bandwidth 2048Kb queue (aa, ab, ac, ... es, et, eu) altq on other_if cbq bandwidth 2048Kb queue (aa, ab, ac, ... es, et, eu) queue aa bandwidth 12Kb priority 2 cbq(borrow red) queue ab bandwidth 12Kb priority 2 cbq(borrow red) ... queue et bandwidth 12Kb priority 2 cbq(borrow red) queue eu bandwidth 12Kb priority 2 cbq(borrow red) I think the users might be happier with hfsc rather than cbq though
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Re: OpenBSD 4.6 + carp + pf + pfsync lockup
2010/9/9 Martin Pelikan : Hello Martin, > I thought the same when I played with TCP buffers set to 1M and after > some heavy load tests I went out of RAM quite soon :-) The machine had > 2G. Well, the machine has 6Gb of RAM and is only pushing 10Mbit/s of traffic at peak. It does need to maintain a largeish state table, as it is predominatly web traffic, but I've run much much larger and busier sites behind much smaller hardware with the same configs before. > I assume ping doesn't work either. Have you raised the recv/send > space? Have you tried entering ddb? (you need to set the sysctl before > start) No, both machines don't ping and they completely hardlock. I can only think it is an issue with pfsync, which causes both to lock up at the same time, but that is a guess. I guess I'll just upgrade them to 4.7 speculatively and hope it doesn't happen again. recv/send: net.inet.tcp.recvspace=16384 net.inet.udp.recvspace=41600 j...@f1:/home/joe> sysctl -a |grep send net.inet.tcp.sendspace=16384 net.inet.udp.sendspace=9216 Too low? What is a good value for them? Thanks for your assistance. -- joe.
Re: OpenBSD 4.6 + carp + pf + pfsync lockup
2010/9/9, Joe Warren-Meeks : > Well, the machine has 6Gb of RAM and is only pushing 10Mbit/s of > traffic at peak. It does need to maintain a largeish state table, as > it is predominatly web traffic, but I've run much much larger and > busier sites behind much smaller hardware with the same configs > before. No problem here. > I guess I'll just upgrade them to 4.7 speculatively and hope it > doesn't happen again. In terms of driver improvement over the time, probably a good choice. > recv/send: > net.inet.tcp.recvspace=16384 > net.inet.udp.recvspace=41600 > j...@f1:/home/joe> sysctl -a |grep send > net.inet.tcp.sendspace=16384 > net.inet.udp.sendspace=9216 > > > Too low? What is a good value for them? It depends on what do you need. The defaults suffice for most cases, but on our most loaded router we use tcp both 256k and udp send space 65k (lots of dns). Just test it somewhere. -- Martin Pelikan
Re: Activating "ip6.forwarding" and "accept_rtadv" at the same time
2010/9/7, Claudio Jeker : > As soon as you spilt a /64 into something smaler you left IPv6 land end > entered something that looks like IPv6 but isn't. Sure it is possible but > by doing it you make every IPv6 disciple scream in agony (which is > probably a good thing anyway). I don't understand that agonizing part. I've heard of companies with so stupid network policies (read: corporate environment) that DHCP6 with one /112 per department and sequentially assigned addresses against people's MAC addresses is like a spit in the ocean. Most people that would make it scream use some automated system for keeping track of their machines anyway. >> How would it look like? New ifconfig parameter? > That was the plan. And a new flag to struct in6_ifextra? Any particular ideas about the loop prevention? > What is wrong with arp? Strange, I asked myself the same question :-) Theo is probably right. Seems like they just wanted the whole concept separately. Were there some political reasons for that? Result? The code is written twice. Bad. But how does it bring down the whole protocol? > Why rely so massivly on multicast instead of a simple LAN broadcast? Because not every machine in the network wants to speak IPv6? There might be other local stuff (EtherSound is just a bad example) demanding separate handling over the same L2 network and not to be disturbed by anything else. Multicasting ND traffic seems like a relief in huge L2 segments so common to see these days instead of smaller routed subnets. But again, the savings are like a spit in the ocean. I have yet to see network so big that this is actually necessary performance-wise. People claim there are... But what's wrong with multicast these days? > These two things are partially responsible for the failure of IPv6. Failure? I don't know about America, but here in central Europe it finally seems to be deploying well. And wait for China. (yes, I know it's more like intranet, but they probably don't want to separate too much) > There is more political nonsense but on the technical side it is the thing > that makes IPv6 so stupidly complex. Again, I don't know about any political stuff (pointers?) but some of the complexity surely is unnecessary. However it seems to be too late to complain :-( -- Martin Pelikan
Re: Activating "ip6.forwarding" and "accept_rtadv" at the same time
* Martin Pelikan (martin.peli...@gmail.com) wrote: > 2010/9/7, Claudio Jeker : > > As soon as you spilt a /64 into something smaler you left IPv6 land end > > entered something that looks like IPv6 but isn't. Sure it is possible but > > by doing it you make every IPv6 disciple scream in agony (which is > > probably a good thing anyway). > > I don't understand that agonizing part. I've heard of companies with > so stupid network policies (read: corporate environment) that DHCP6 > with one /112 per department and sequentially assigned addresses > against people's MAC addresses is like a spit in the ocean. Most > people that would make it scream use some automated system for keeping > track of their machines anyway. Why use smaller subnets than /64? Just keep it simple and go for /64s everywhere, its even quite common to use /64s on point to point links. The only reason is that net ops are used to IPv4 and try to conserve IP addresses. In the end they will have an unnecessarily complicated network to handle. > > What is wrong with arp? ND does a lot more than ARP. (..which, in itself, makes it more complex.) > > These two things are partially responsible for the failure of IPv6. > > Failure? I don't know about America, but here in central Europe it > finally seems to be deploying well. And wait for China. (yes, I know > it's more like intranet, but they probably don't want to separate too > much) IPv6 is getting more and more attention, in the US too. So after a decade+ of 'IPv6 will happpen soon' it seems like things finaly start to happen.. and it will surely be painfull :) Cheers, /Joakim
Re: Activating "ip6.forwarding" and "accept_rtadv" at the same time
On Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 12:38:06PM +0200, Martin Pelikan wrote: > 2010/9/7, Claudio Jeker : > > As soon as you spilt a /64 into something smaler you left IPv6 land end > > entered something that looks like IPv6 but isn't. Sure it is possible but > > by doing it you make every IPv6 disciple scream in agony (which is > > probably a good thing anyway). > > I don't understand that agonizing part. I've heard of companies with > so stupid network policies (read: corporate environment) that DHCP6 > with one /112 per department and sequentially assigned addresses > against people's MAC addresses is like a spit in the ocean. Most > people that would make it scream use some automated system for keeping > track of their machines anyway. > Real IPv6 Fanboys will tell you that anything smaller then /64 is a sin and against the spirit of IPv6. You can not run all the great stuff that makes IPv6 oh so superior. > >> How would it look like? New ifconfig parameter? > > That was the plan. > > And a new flag to struct in6_ifextra? Any particular ideas about the > loop prevention? > Nope, it will be part of ifnet->if_xflags. You can not prevent loops. If users do stupid things they need to suffer the consequences (that's how people learn). At least you should limit the interfaces from where you accept rtadv packets. > > What is wrong with arp? > > Strange, I asked myself the same question :-) Theo is probably right. > Seems like they just wanted the whole concept separately. Were there > some political reasons for that? > Result? The code is written twice. Bad. But how does it bring down the > whole protocol? Because ND depends on multicast and therefor needs a local scope and because of this we end up with addressing scopes and then we need stateless address assignment on the local scope with duplicate address detection and now you're deep down in the darkest of the dark holes. > > Why rely so massivly on multicast instead of a simple LAN broadcast? > > Because not every machine in the network wants to speak IPv6? There > might be other local stuff (EtherSound is just a bad example) > demanding separate handling over the same L2 network and not to be > disturbed by anything else. > Multicasting ND traffic seems like a relief in huge L2 segments so > common to see these days instead of smaller routed subnets. But again, > the savings are like a spit in the ocean. I have yet to see network so > big that this is actually necessary performance-wise. People claim > there are... > But what's wrong with multicast these days? > Hmm. Please show me a switch that actually does the ND multicast in a non-flooding way. By default most multicast is treated like broadcast and is flooded all over the place. So there is no gain for a hell lot of pain. There is nothing wrong with mutlicast where multicast is needed but neighbor discovery (aka address resolution) is not one of those cases. Sure the theory sounds sexy but in reality it is just painful. > > These two things are partially responsible for the failure of IPv6. > > Failure? I don't know about America, but here in central Europe it > finally seems to be deploying well. And wait for China. (yes, I know > it's more like intranet, but they probably don't want to separate too > much) It is a forced deployment and it is only possible because many things implied with IPv6 got killed. It is funny that all those things that should never ever be needed in IPv6 are suddenly implemented (best example dhcp6). > > There is more political nonsense but on the technical side it is the thing > > that makes IPv6 so stupidly complex. > > Again, I don't know about any political stuff (pointers?) but some of > the complexity surely is unnecessary. However it seems to be too late > to complain :-( As an example of political nonsense look at what it took to be able to get PI IPv6 space. -- :wq Claudio
Re: OpenBSD 4.6 + carp + pf + pfsync lockup
Joe Warren-Meeks wrote: Hey guys, I'm running two HPDL360 G5 servers with OpenBSD 4.6+carp+pf+pfsync as an active/passive firewall pair. Both are running: (full dmesg at bottom, along with edited pf.conf, in case it's relevant) j...@f2:/home/joe> uname -a OpenBSD f2 4.6 GENERIC.MP#81 amd64 I've had a weird problem happen twice now. It seems after about 4 - 6 weeks of running very happily, both servers lock up completely at the same time. Both consoles show no error messages, but the cursor is blinking away happily. Neither console will take any input and the only remedy is to power cycle them. There is nothing unusual in any of the logfiles. I'm planning on updating them to 4.7 anyway, but is this a problem that people are aware of? Is there a fix? Kind regards I was running OpenBSD 4.6+carp+pf+pfsync+bgp+all errata patches (i386) combo on a pair of IBM x345s with 1G of ram and saw the same behavior as you roughly every 70 days. That hardware was running the same configuration under 4.4 and never had a problem. State load is roughly: State Table Total Rate current entries 5140 searches 13374145144 4114.1/s inserts202444638 62.3/s removals 202439498 62.3/s Memory/cpu load: load averages: 0.08, 0.08, 0.08 31 processes: 30 idle, 1 on processor CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 3.2% interrupt, 96.8% idle Memory: Real: 127M/323M act/tot Free: 677M Swap: 0K/2048M used/tot I upgraded to 4.7 first to see if the problem went away before spending time trying to debug an unreported problem on an old release. There were a lot of changes to the PF and pfsync code between 4.6 and 4.7. So far so good, almost 53 days with no trouble.
Re: OpenBSD 4.8 pre-orders are up
2010/9/8 Theo de Raadt : > OpenBSD 4.8 can now be pre-ordered. The release date will be Nov 1. > As usual, the CDs will ship a bit before the official release. > Pre-order has been placed. Thanks to all who've made it posible again!! -- We spend the first twelve months of our children's lives teaching them to walk and talk and the next twelve telling them to sit down and shut up.
Re: Distribute bandwidth by IP's
Ok. That's good. Using hfsc what's the advantage? https://calomel.org/pf_hfsc.html Can be assigned the altq rules with hsfc by ip? or only by kind of packets? Thanks a lot for your reply. The comments help me so much to understand many things. On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 3:09 AM, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2010-09-07, roberth wrote: > > > > So just put ~150 (*2 for both directions) child queues in your config. > > queues are per-interface anyway, so there's no need for the *2 in the > config (and the associated headaches in assigning traffic to the correct > queue) > > altq on some_if cbq bandwidth 2048Kb queue (aa, ab, ac, ... es, et, eu) > altq on other_if cbq bandwidth 2048Kb queue (aa, ab, ac, ... es, et, eu) > > queue aa bandwidth 12Kb priority 2 cbq(borrow red) > queue ab bandwidth 12Kb priority 2 cbq(borrow red) > ... > queue et bandwidth 12Kb priority 2 cbq(borrow red) > queue eu bandwidth 12Kb priority 2 cbq(borrow red) > > I think the users might be happier with hfsc rather than cbq though > > -- Hermes Ojeda Ruiz
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Re: OpenBSD 4.6 + carp + pf + pfsync lockup
On 2010-09-09, Martin Pelik??n wrote: > 2010/9/9, Joe Warren-Meeks : >> recv/send: >> net.inet.tcp.recvspace=16384 >> net.inet.udp.recvspace=41600 >> j...@f1:/home/joe> sysctl -a |grep send >> net.inet.tcp.sendspace=16384 >> net.inet.udp.sendspace=9216 >> >> >> Too low? What is a good value for them? > > It depends on what do you need. The defaults suffice for most cases, > but on our most loaded router we use tcp both 256k and udp send space > 65k (lots of dns). Just test it somewhere. these affect traffic sourced from the box itself, *not* routed through it.
Re: Distribute bandwidth by IP's
On 2010-09-09, Hermes Ojeda Ruiz wrote: > Ok. That's good. Using hfsc what's the advantage? > https://calomel.org/pf_hfsc.html You can allow an initial burst (good for standard web traffic etc) and then slow things down. With this tool you can discourage file transfers and streaming traffic which isn't sustainable over a very busy line, while allowing standard http, ssh, imap, etc. to work more normally (small transfers, or low-bandwidth transfers, get through ok; large/ high-bandwidth transfers are throttled). And the end result is much nicer than allowing everyone to have a "fair" share i.e. 10-12Kbit/sec. (Also I doubt that cbq can accurately control traffic down to this sort of speed..) On the down side, the documentation for hfsc is pretty bad, I was just setting it up recently myself and had to to assemble information from about 4 different sources in order to learn enough to start experimenting.. > Can be assigned the altq rules with hsfc by ip? or only by kind of packets? You can assign packets to queues by any criteria PF can match on.. match proto tcp to port ssh queue (fast, highest) match proto tcp queue (standard, fast) match proto udp to port domain queue (highest) match proto udp from 10.0.0.1 queue (aa)
4.8 Release and Download and
Seeing that orders are being taken for the 4.8 release got me thinking about purchasing a copy, I don't need a copy on CD so just a download for my architecture would be fine. In the past I've sent a small donated to the project and was wondering if there's way that I could buy the right to download the OS before the official release. Personally I would happily pay the same as the full CD costs and probably some more to just download the OS and the project would save on the production of the CD and the postage. I'd defiantly pay for 802.11G, hope that it's working in this release. Keith
Re: 4.8 Release and Download and
On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 00:58:40 +0100 Keith wrote: > > Seeing that orders are being taken for the 4.8 release got me > thinking about purchasing a copy, I don't need a copy on CD so just a > download for my architecture would be fine. In the past I've sent a > small donated to the project and was wondering if there's way that I > could buy the right to download the OS before the official release. > > Personally I would happily pay the same as the full CD costs and > probably some more to just download the OS and the project would save > on the production of the CD and the postage. > > I'd defiantly pay for 802.11G, hope that it's working in this release. > > Keith > Keith, It seems you're kind of missing the point. The developers *GIVE* the code away free to everyone. If you appreciate all the time, effort and expense the developers sink into giving away code for free, then the right answer is to try to give back to them in some way. Donations are always welcome. Some people work at companies where they use OpenBSD in their businesses. Since it's often impossible to get their companies to make a straight forward donation, instead they *BUY* a big stack of release CDs for their company. Of course, they don't actually need a big stack of CDs, but it was the only way the could get approval from the bosses. As for pre-ordering release CDs, yes, the discs are often (but not always) delivered before the official release date. Of course, until the actual release date when the CVS and package mirrors open up to public access, having the CDs early really doesn't give you much of a head start. Some people don't want stacks and stacks of CDs around, so instead of ordering release CDs, the order T-Shirts, posters or best of all, just make donations to give back to the project and developers who give them so much. Personally, I buy the release CDs just for the stickers. ;) Either way, release CD sales and donations really do help to fund continued development of OpenBSD. jcr -- The OpenBSD Journal - http://www.undeadly.org
Broadcom BCM4322 wifi support?
Since Broadcom has released their sources for drivers, will I be able to get support for my BCM4322 wireless card for OpenBSD? The BCM4322 chipset ID was removed from bwi(4) a while back: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvs&m=122116715708453&w=2 It would be so awesome if it was supported now so that I don't have to spend money on a wireless card. I've been using a wireless router as my wireless card (putting it in bridge mode from my modem/wireless router and connecting my bridge to my laptop via ethernet cable) and it's a hassle lugging it around.
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Re: maybe OT 6 year anniversay of Chuck Yerkes death
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:01:43 -0600 (MDT) Diana Eichert wrote: > > I don't think it's off topic but others might. I'm writing this post > to remember Chuck Yerkes, a long time contributor to the m...@openbsd > list. Chuck died 6 years ago this coming weekend while riding his > motorcycle. > http://web.archive.org/web/20041012235249/http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/cctimes/news/9511974.htm > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-misc&m=109385676632581&w=2 > > Just wanted to remember you Chuck, take it easy wherever you are. > > diana > Thank You Diana. "Shirt, Shoes, Sober... --Pick Two" Chuck Yerkes jcr -- The OpenBSD Journal - http://www.undeadly.org
Re: maybe OT 6 year anniversay of Chuck Yerkes death
I was just thinking of Chuck earlier tonight, as some pinhead suddenly swerved in front of my bike without signaling. Recqiescat in pacem, Chuck, sorry we never got the chance to knock a few back in person. On Sep 9, 2010, at 9:43 PM, J.C. Roberts wrote: > On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:01:43 -0600 (MDT) Diana Eichert > wrote: >> >> I don't think it's off topic but others might. I'm writing this post >> to remember Chuck Yerkes, a long time contributor to the m...@openbsd >> list. Chuck died 6 years ago this coming weekend while riding his >> motorcycle. >> http://web.archive.org/web/20041012235249/http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld /cctimes/news/9511974.htm >> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-misc&m=109385676632581&w=2 >> >> Just wanted to remember you Chuck, take it easy wherever you are. >> >> diana >> > > Thank You Diana. > >"Shirt, Shoes, Sober... --Pick Two" >Chuck Yerkes > > jcr
Comment puis-je investir dans votre pays/how can i invest in your country
Cher Monsieur Je sais que cette lettre peut jtre une trhs grande surprise pour vous. Je suis M. Martin humide a l'Afrique du Sud citoyen, mais de base ici, au Royaume-Uni / Londres en raison de problhmes politiques dans notre pays. J'itais un fonctionnaire dans mon pays, je travaille en tant que prisident du comiti local d'organisation pendant le temps nous avons gagni la candidature pour accueillir Coupe du Monde 2010 dans mon pays d'Afrique du Sud. Depuis que je suis venu dans ce pays je tente de dimarrer une entreprise, mais je ne pouvais pas le faire, car je n'ai jamais fait une entreprise car, dans ma vie, des gens inutiles certains de mes fonds que je suis venu ici avec. J'ai encore beaucoup d'argent ` investir, mais je crains que d'investir l'argent dans une autre entreprise que mon ami m'a introduit dans, parce que l'argent que j'ai pour le moment il est le seul espoir de ma famille, de qui, s'il arrivait quelque chose dessus, il sera l'effet tout le monde dans la famille, y compris moi, c'est pourquoi je suis tellement peur d'investir le fonds avec quelque chose que je ne sais pas comment contrtler que quelqu'un qui itait un fonctionnaire jamais faire des affaires dans sa vie. Je suis avec vous pour me faire une faveur si vous pouvez accepter moi d'investir l'argent dans votre entreprise pour acheter votre produit de la sociiti ` un taux bas prix pour me permettre de le vendre ici au Royaume-Uni / Londres, afin que je puisse faire assez de profits. Je pense que ce sera une bonne idie pour moi que de faire affaires avec des gens qui ne sont pas dignes de confiance? Le sens de ma proposition est pour vous pour m'aider et me donner quelques bonnes idies, peut-jtre mon idie n'est pas trhs bien, mais je crois que d'investir dans mon fonds de votre produit de la sociiti devrait jtre la seule fagon je peux survivre avec mon argent sans perdre mon argent? Toujours me contacter sur mon E-mail privi: (martins.hu...@gmail.com) parce que je tiens ` m'adresser ` vous pour nous de s'habituer les uns aux autres, je voudrais que vous me faire parvenir votre propre numiro de mobile me permettre de parler avec vous Je vais jtre en attente de votre riponse urgente Merci et que Dieu vous binisse Cordialement Mr.Martin.humid
Re: 4.8 Release and Download and
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 12:58:40AM +0100, Keith wrote: > Seeing that orders are being taken for the 4.8 release got me thinking > about purchasing a copy, I don't need a copy on CD so just a download > for my architecture would be fine. In the past I've sent a small donated > to the project and was wondering if there's way that I could buy the > right to download the OS before the official release. In reality, you already can; at no point is there code that's being "held out" for the CD release that isn't already in cvs; grabiing a -current snapshot from a period of time reasonably near the tree unlock that happens each cycle should be close enough for anything that doesn't require soothing some sort of OCD. > > Personally I would happily pay the same as the full CD costs and > probably some more to just download the OS and the project would save on > the production of the CD and the postage. > > I'd defiantly pay for 802.11G, hope that it's working in this release. > > Keith
Re: Broadcom BCM4322 wifi support?
On 09/09/10 19:28, James Hozier wrote: Since Broadcom has released their sources for drivers, will I be able to get support for my BCM4322 wireless card for OpenBSD? The BCM4322 chipset ID was removed from bwi(4) a while back: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvs&m=122116715708453&w=2 It would be so awesome if it was supported now so that I don't have to spend money on a wireless card. I've been using a wireless router as my wireless card (putting it in bridge mode from my modem/wireless router and connecting my bridge to my laptop via ethernet cable) and it's a hassle lugging it around. Code is not proper hardware documentation. Another factor to consider is the availability of the firmware to be distributed under real open conditions. So this announcement could really mean nothing to openbsd. The wifi hardware devs will know better than me though. -luis
Re: OpenBSD 4.8 pre-orders are up
Thanks for making my life easier! OpenBSD developers are AWESOME! Your order currently is: -> 1 [CD48] OpenBSD 4.8 CD @ CDN $50.00 -> 1 [T31] PuffyTron Shirt (L) @ CDN $25.00 -> 1 [M1] Puffy Mug @ CDN $20.00 -> Total: CDN $95.00 + Shipping. -- Luis