Re: 8-bit character in mg
I see this too. The extra space is only displayed, and is not part of the resulting file. You can refresh the screen (ctrl-l), and things will be repainted appropriately. On 2011 Apr 13 (Wed) at 19:49:52 -0300 (-0300), Daniel B. wrote: :Hi, : :I'm trying to use mg as my mail editor. However, I need some 8-bit :characters for portuguese. : :In the man page, I saw I need to disable meta-key-mode. I did, but after :each 8-bit character, I get an extra space. Is this an expected :behavior? : :Thank you. : -- Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?
Re: Intel 10GbE SFP+ (82599) and vlan
On 14.4.2011 2:03, Kapetanakis Giannis wrote: Try to do ifconfig ix1 up (up in /etc/hostname.ix1) I've seen vlans not coming up until I do this on parent interface, although they appear active in ifconfig. Giannis hi, tried with hostname.ix1 and hostname.vlan123 but it's not working either # cat hostname.ix1 up # cat hostname.vlan123 vlan 123 vlandev ix1 inet 10.6.6.1 255.255.255.0 NONE # ping 10.6.6.2 PING 10.6.6.2 (10.6.6.2): 56 data bytes ping: sendto: Host is down ping: wrote 10.6.6.2 64 chars, ret=-1 ping: sendto: Host is down ping: wrote 10.6.6.2 64 chars, ret=-1 --- 10.6.6.2 ping statistics --- 2 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss tcpdump is still the same # tcpdump -i ix1 tcpdump: listening on ix1, link-type EN10MB 10:39:34.520816 802.1Q vid 0 pri 0 802.1Q vid 123 pri 0 arp who-has 10.6.6.2 tell 10.6.6.1 10:39:35.530822 802.1Q vid 0 pri 0 802.1Q vid 123 pri 0 arp who-has 10.6.6.2 tell 10.6.6.1 10:39:56.740949 802.1Q vid 0 pri 0 802.1Q vid 123 pri 0 arp who-has 10.6.6.2 tell 10.6.6.1 10:39:57.750952 802.1Q vid 0 pri 0 802.1Q vid 123 pri 0 arp who-has 10.6.6.2 tell 10.6.6.1 10:39:58.760958 802.1Q vid 0 pri 0 802.1Q vid 123 pri 0 arp who-has 10.6.6.2 tell 10.6.6.1 will try to find details of ix card ... -- /hrvoje
Re: Intel 10GbE SFP+ (82599) and vlan
On 14.4.2011 10:47, Hrvoje Popovski wrote: On 14.4.2011 2:03, Kapetanakis Giannis wrote: Try to do ifconfig ix1 up (up in /etc/hostname.ix1) I've seen vlans not coming up until I do this on parent interface, although they appear active in ifconfig. Giannis hi, tried with hostname.ix1 and hostname.vlan123 but it's not working either # cat hostname.ix1 up # cat hostname.vlan123 vlan 123 vlandev ix1 inet 10.6.6.1 255.255.255.0 NONE # ping 10.6.6.2 PING 10.6.6.2 (10.6.6.2): 56 data bytes ping: sendto: Host is down ping: wrote 10.6.6.2 64 chars, ret=-1 ping: sendto: Host is down ping: wrote 10.6.6.2 64 chars, ret=-1 --- 10.6.6.2 ping statistics --- 2 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss tcpdump is still the same # tcpdump -i ix1 tcpdump: listening on ix1, link-type EN10MB 10:39:34.520816 802.1Q vid 0 pri 0 802.1Q vid 123 pri 0 arp who-has 10.6.6.2 tell 10.6.6.1 10:39:35.530822 802.1Q vid 0 pri 0 802.1Q vid 123 pri 0 arp who-has 10.6.6.2 tell 10.6.6.1 10:39:56.740949 802.1Q vid 0 pri 0 802.1Q vid 123 pri 0 arp who-has 10.6.6.2 tell 10.6.6.1 10:39:57.750952 802.1Q vid 0 pri 0 802.1Q vid 123 pri 0 arp who-has 10.6.6.2 tell 10.6.6.1 10:39:58.760958 802.1Q vid 0 pri 0 802.1Q vid 123 pri 0 arp who-has 10.6.6.2 tell 10.6.6.1 will try to find details of ix card ... name: Intel Ethernet Server Adapter X520-SR2 (X520-2) Intel Part Number E10G42BFSR http://www.intel.com/support/network/sb/cs-012904.htm Board ID:E68785-xxx VendorID:8086 DevID:10FB part number from intel driver properties (i don't know what is that part number) E81283-003 -- /hrvoje
Re: Is VPN initiation by traffic possible?
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 09:19:19AM +, nemir nemirius wrote: Hi, One of my clients is a major bank. We need to exchange data a few times a day at different intervals, and they're insisting that we initiate the VPN on demand with relevent traffic. It works from their end. Tunnel is down, they send a ping, first packet is dropped as the tunnel is brought up, subsequent traffic reaches its destination. Is it possible? Can you who me how? OpenBSD won't do this for you. Can't you wrap whatever sends the data in a script that sets up and tears down the relevant tunnel? (You *could* write a daemon to listen on a tun/tap-style device, dynamically manage the tunnel and forward traffic. But that's quite a bit of work.) Joachim -- TFMotD: CPANPLUS::Module::Fake (3p) - class for creating fake module objects http://www.joachimschipper.nl/
Re: BGP/MPLS VPN
On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 01:07:49PM -0700, Matt S wrote: Hello misc@ I have read over the various postings for BGP/MPLS VPN, particularly http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=127470697232025w=2 and http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=129112614017103w=2. For learning purposes, I would like to build my own L3 BGP/MPLS VPN network. For now, I am going to try to do this between two locations connected by broadband to the internet. My guess is I will need to use a GRE tunnel to provide the point to point connection between the locations. How would you go about doing this? Here is what I am thinking: 1. Setup the gre(4) tunnel between locations and test connectivity 2. Create the mpe(4) and define mpls labels 3. Configure ospf and bgp I learned from a previous post that ldp is not necessary when using gre tunnels but I do not understand why. Finally, correct me if I am wrong, but I most likely should protect the traffic using IPSEC. Is this necessary? 1. setup the network the way you like it 2. either use full static routing or use ospfd to handle the route distribution inside your test network. 3. make sure you can reach everything. Ping, traceroute and tcpdump is your friend. 4. enable MPLS on the gre interfaces and all other interfaces that may have tagged traffic (hint mpe(4) is not one of them) ifconfig gre0 mpls 5. run ldpd (the interface list should be the same as in step 4) 6. test again, see if you see MPLS tagged packets inside the gre tunnel 7. setup bgpd and the mpe interface To be honest on directly attached systems you could probably skip step 5 since PNP will kick in but as soon as you run something one hop further down the tunnel ldpd is needed. Don't forget to set net.inet.gre.allow to 1 :) -- :wq Claudio
relayd.conf and multiple webservers on the inside
Hi, Is there any way to enable a reverse proxy using relayd to redirect web requests to different webservers depending on the http header? To clarify: (Internet) 1 IP address - OpenBSD Box - 2 Web servers (LAN) If I point to www.server1.com be redirected to webserver 1, and if I go to www.server2.com be redirected to webserver2, using the same IP on both domain names. As relayd.conf protocol section filters to one destination, and relay section then applies only one defined protocol, I have no idea on how to achieve this. Thank you in advance,
Re: Intel 10GbE SFP+ (82599) and vlan
On 14/04/11 02:43, Hrvoje Popovski wrote: hello eveyone, problem is that when i enable vlan on ix interface i can't ping other side. servers are identical and cross connected with twinax SFP+ cable. tried thru switches with other ix interface but same result. card is dual 10GbE intel SFP+ SR, but i'm not sure is it X520-D2 or X520-SR2 or something else ... will try boot something else to see, server are not near me ... whitout vlans network connectivity is ok. I'm not sure what you're trying to do, but a) are you sure you have enabled dot1q vlan tagging on the switch port and vlan is in the list of allowed VLANs? b) If you are not using switch (you say something about cross connected) why do you need vlan(4) separation?? In this case you might need to define null vlan 0 and maybe vlan 1 as well to make it behave like a switch trunk port. Never done b) on systems Giannis [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s]
Re: Intel 10GbE SFP+ (82599) and vlan
On 2011-04-13, Hrvoje Popovski hrv...@srce.hr wrote: problem is that when i enable vlan on ix interface i can't ping other side. 01:20:38.556705 802.1Q vid 0 pri 0 802.1Q vid 123 pri 0 arp who-has 10.3.3.2 tell 10.3.3.1 your config is OK, something is broken there. I guess this will make it function but it's not a correct fix. Index: if_ix.c === RCS file: /cvs/src/sys/dev/pci/if_ix.c,v retrieving revision 1.50 diff -u -p -r1.50 if_ix.c --- if_ix.c 13 Apr 2011 00:14:18 - 1.50 +++ if_ix.c 14 Apr 2011 16:36:58 - @@ -1453,7 +1453,7 @@ ixgbe_setup_interface(struct ix_softc *s ifp-if_capabilities = IFCAP_VLAN_MTU; #if NVLAN 0 - ifp-if_capabilities |= IFCAP_VLAN_HWTAGGING; +// ifp-if_capabilities |= IFCAP_VLAN_HWTAGGING; #endif #ifdef IX_CSUM_OFFLOAD
Re: relayd.conf and multiple webservers on the inside
On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 18:06:13 +0200 Fernando Clvarez wrote: To clarify: (Internet) 1 IP address - OpenBSD Box - 2 Web servers (LAN) If I point to www.server1.com be redirected to webserver 1, and if I go to www.server2.com be redirected to webserver2, using the same IP on both domain names. Are you sure you want to do this. Do you want any ssl on these sites, because you'll need ugly :port on your ssl urls if you do. IPs should be cheap too. Another possibility is to have both web servers serving both sites with session tracking or are these seperately controlled/seperate owners.
Re: Intel 10GbE SFP+ (82599) and vlan
On 14.4.2011 18:37, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2011-04-13, Hrvoje Popovskihrv...@srce.hr wrote: problem is that when i enable vlan on ix interface i can't ping other side. 01:20:38.556705 802.1Q vid 0 pri 0 802.1Q vid 123 pri 0 arp who-has 10.3.3.2 tell 10.3.3.1 your config is OK, something is broken there. I guess this will make it function but it's not a correct fix. Index: if_ix.c === RCS file: /cvs/src/sys/dev/pci/if_ix.c,v retrieving revision 1.50 diff -u -p -r1.50 if_ix.c --- if_ix.c 13 Apr 2011 00:14:18 - 1.50 +++ if_ix.c 14 Apr 2011 16:36:58 - @@ -1453,7 +1453,7 @@ ixgbe_setup_interface(struct ix_softc *s ifp-if_capabilities = IFCAP_VLAN_MTU; #if NVLAN 0 - ifp-if_capabilities |= IFCAP_VLAN_HWTAGGING; +// ifp-if_capabilities |= IFCAP_VLAN_HWTAGGING; #endif #ifdef IX_CSUM_OFFLOAD hello, i have commented that line and compiled kernel as you said and same thing happens is there any other info that i can provide thank you for diff ... -- /hrvoje
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Re: Intel 10GbE SFP+ (82599) and vlan
On 14.4.2011 18:18, Kapetanakis Giannis wrote: I'm not sure what you're trying to do, but i'm trying to understand why vlans aren't working on ix interface i need vlans on ix0 (interface connected to switch) for lan's and ix1 (interface directly connected to other openbsd server) for ospf other two bnx interfaces would be for pfsync and ptp link to isp a) are you sure you have enabled dot1q vlan tagging on the switch port and vlan is in the list of allowed VLANs? yap i have and for that reason just to avoid switching problems, arp cache and stuff like that i enabled vlans on directly connected ix1 interface, just for testing purposes on bnx interfaces everything is working ok b) If you are not using switch (you say something about cross connected) why do you need vlan(4) separation?? In this case you might need to define null vlan 0 and maybe vlan 1 as well to make it behave like a switch trunk port. tried with vlan0 but that i get this: vlan0 with ip address, pinging thru vlan0 # tcpdump -i ix1 tcpdump: listening on ix1, link-type EN10MB 20:51:32.240914 802.1Q vid 0 pri 0 802.1Q vid 0 pri 0 arp who-has 10.8.8.2 tell 10.8.8.1 20:51:33.250920 802.1Q vid 0 pri 0 802.1Q vid 0 pri 0 arp who-has 10.8.8.2 tell 10.8.8.1 :) tcpdump on vlan0 without ip address, pinging thru vlan123 # tcpdump -i vlan0 tcpdump: listening on vlan0, link-type EN10MB 20:57:32.022784 802.1Q vid 123 pri 0 arp who-has 10.5.5.2 tell 10.5.5.1 20:57:33.032790 802.1Q vid 123 pri 0 arp who-has 10.5.5.2 tell 10.5.5.1 interesting thing is that i can't see any icmp traffic only arp -- /hrvoje
Re: relayd.conf and multiple webservers on the inside
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Are you sure you want to do this. Do you want any ssl on these sites, because you'll need ugly :port on your ssl urls if you do. Using Subject Alternative Names, you can get a single SSL certificate that covers multiple hostnames.
Re: relayd.conf and multiple webservers on the inside
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Matthew Dempsky matt...@dempsky.org wrote: On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Are you sure you want to do this. Do you want any ssl on these sites, because you'll need ugly :port on your ssl urls if you do. Using Subject Alternative Names, you can get a single SSL certificate that covers multiple hostnames. Alternatively, if someone adds SNI support to relayd, then you could still use multiple distinct SSL certificates as well. The version of OpenSSL in base already supports SNI. Also, both of these solutions assume relayd is the SSL termination point for both web sites. If instead you want the backends to be responsible for handling SSL, then yeah, you need to use separate IP addresses or ports.
Re: relayd.conf and multiple webservers on the inside
Quoting Fernando Clvarez fernando.alva...@deimos-space.com: Hi, Is there any way to enable a reverse proxy using relayd to redirect web requests to different webservers depending on the http header? To clarify: (Internet) 1 IP address - OpenBSD Box - 2 Web servers (LAN) If I point to www.server1.com be redirected to webserver 1, and if I go to www.server2.com be redirected to webserver2, using the same IP on both domain names. As relayd.conf protocol section filters to one destination, and relay section then applies only one defined protocol, I have no idea on how to achieve this. Don't think so, no. Things might have moved on since this from Stuart, so I'd love to be told I'm wrong! http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=126278061325299w=2 Thank you in advance,
Re: Intel 10GbE SFP+ (82599) and vlan
On 14.4.2011 20:28, Hrvoje Popovski wrote: On 14.4.2011 18:37, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2011-04-13, Hrvoje Popovskihrv...@srce.hr wrote: problem is that when i enable vlan on ix interface i can't ping other side. 01:20:38.556705 802.1Q vid 0 pri 0 802.1Q vid 123 pri 0 arp who-has 10.3.3.2 tell 10.3.3.1 your config is OK, something is broken there. I guess this will make it function but it's not a correct fix. Index: if_ix.c === RCS file: /cvs/src/sys/dev/pci/if_ix.c,v retrieving revision 1.50 diff -u -p -r1.50 if_ix.c --- if_ix.c 13 Apr 2011 00:14:18 - 1.50 +++ if_ix.c 14 Apr 2011 16:36:58 - @@ -1453,7 +1453,7 @@ ixgbe_setup_interface(struct ix_softc *s ifp-if_capabilities = IFCAP_VLAN_MTU; #if NVLAN 0 - ifp-if_capabilities |= IFCAP_VLAN_HWTAGGING; +// ifp-if_capabilities |= IFCAP_VLAN_HWTAGGING; #endif #ifdef IX_CSUM_OFFLOAD hello, i have commented that line and compiled kernel as you said and same thing happens is there any other info that i can provide thank you for diff ... maybe this thread will help .. http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-net@freebsd.org/msg34997.html -- /hrvoje
Re: Intel 10GbE SFP+ (82599) and vlan
On 2011-04-14, Hrvoje Popovski hrv...@srce.hr wrote: On 14.4.2011 18:37, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2011-04-13, Hrvoje Popovskihrv...@srce.hr wrote: problem is that when i enable vlan on ix interface i can't ping other side. 01:20:38.556705 802.1Q vid 0 pri 0 802.1Q vid 123 pri 0 arp who-has 10.3.3.2 tell 10.3.3.1 your config is OK, something is broken there. I guess this will make it function but it's not a correct fix. Index: if_ix.c === RCS file: /cvs/src/sys/dev/pci/if_ix.c,v retrieving revision 1.50 diff -u -p -r1.50 if_ix.c --- if_ix.c 13 Apr 2011 00:14:18 - 1.50 +++ if_ix.c 14 Apr 2011 16:36:58 - @@ -1453,7 +1453,7 @@ ixgbe_setup_interface(struct ix_softc *s ifp-if_capabilities = IFCAP_VLAN_MTU; #if NVLAN 0 -ifp-if_capabilities |= IFCAP_VLAN_HWTAGGING; +// ifp-if_capabilities |= IFCAP_VLAN_HWTAGGING; #endif #ifdef IX_CSUM_OFFLOAD hello, i have commented that line and compiled kernel as you said and same thing happens is there any other info that i can provide thank you for diff ... Did you try it on the transmitting machine or the receiving machine (or both)? http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-net/2010-November/027114.html suggests that disabling this should help.
Re: Intel 10GbE SFP+ (82599) and vlan
On 14.4.2011 23:34, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2011-04-14, Hrvoje Popovskihrv...@srce.hr wrote: On 14.4.2011 18:37, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2011-04-13, Hrvoje Popovskihrv...@srce.hr wrote: problem is that when i enable vlan on ix interface i can't ping other side. 01:20:38.556705 802.1Q vid 0 pri 0 802.1Q vid 123 pri 0 arp who-has 10.3.3.2 tell 10.3.3.1 your config is OK, something is broken there. I guess this will make it function but it's not a correct fix. Index: if_ix.c === RCS file: /cvs/src/sys/dev/pci/if_ix.c,v retrieving revision 1.50 diff -u -p -r1.50 if_ix.c --- if_ix.c 13 Apr 2011 00:14:18 - 1.50 +++ if_ix.c 14 Apr 2011 16:36:58 - @@ -1453,7 +1453,7 @@ ixgbe_setup_interface(struct ix_softc *s ifp-if_capabilities = IFCAP_VLAN_MTU; #if NVLAN 0 - ifp-if_capabilities |= IFCAP_VLAN_HWTAGGING; +// ifp-if_capabilities |= IFCAP_VLAN_HWTAGGING; #endif #ifdef IX_CSUM_OFFLOAD hello, i have commented that line and compiled kernel as you said and same thing happens is there any other info that i can provide thank you for diff ... Did you try it on the transmitting machine or the receiving machine (or both)? i tried diff on both machines and vlans on ix0 (interface connected to switch) and ix1 (directly connected to other machine) will double check everything maybe i'm doing something fundamentally wrong with vlans... http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-net/2010-November/027114.html suggests that disabling this should help. i just read that but need more time to understand :) -- /hrvoje
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Re: relayd.conf and multiple webservers on the inside
depending on your dns name flexability, another possible alternative is to use site names like bob.example.com and alice.example.com then you can run both via a single wildcard SSL cert *.example.com on the single IP address. /Pete On 14. apr. 2011, at 20:45, Matthew Dempsky matt...@dempsky.org wrote: On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Matthew Dempsky matt...@dempsky.org wrote: On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Are you sure you want to do this. Do you want any ssl on these sites, because you'll need ugly :port on your ssl urls if you do. Using Subject Alternative Names, you can get a single SSL certificate that covers multiple hostnames. Alternatively, if someone adds SNI support to relayd, then you could still use multiple distinct SSL certificates as well. The version of OpenSSL in base already supports SNI. Also, both of these solutions assume relayd is the SSL termination point for both web sites. If instead you want the backends to be responsible for handling SSL, then yeah, you need to use separate IP addresses or ports.
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