Re: Calomel.org

2012-07-27 Thread Wojciech Puchar

Who the fuck do you think you are to use that tone? The royal we? Are those mutual favors a 
currency I can trade for a cash? Will the OpenBSD community branding me special get me more work? 
pussy? the INS fast-lane? Nope. *IF* I decide to put in the work, mylord, it'll be on my own 
terms so you can get off your high horse and drop that plastic monocle replica.

I got my own agenda; if there was general support for a mediawiki-based site 
that includes the new Lua bindings
I could partially wrap that into my current job on my remote Lua 
debugger. Assuming I don't completely botch it, I would be doing a 
favour to the OpenBSD community in return for nothing, as do others, but 
it's pretty clear by now that change is not exactly welcome.

How much did you sponsored or contributed to OpenBSB



Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Vadim Zhukov
Am I right you need ASCII-like output without extra formatting (e.g.,
terminal escape codes)? Something like:

xyz utility does the following: blah-blah. The options are as follows: -h
to make you happy. -k to kill your ex-girl's kitten. -v to make sure
everyone know what are you doing. See also manual page for cat in section
one, manual page for kill in section one and for wall in section one.

This could be accomplished by new backbend for mandoc, as I can understand.
Other easy would be to teach your screen reader to mdoc(7) and man(7)
formats. This will do it best as you'll have hyperlinks and other stuff the
way you want.

... And for now going with MANPAGER and /etc/man.conf will be your best
option, I think.
27.07.2012 4:33 пользователь Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com
написал:

 man,
 the format of that page is ugly to listen to. lots of back slashes. I
 noticed
 there didn't appear to be any line/returns in there (and that is
  something my
 screen reader doesn't make clear either).

 I will have to find an online version of the man page mentioned below.

 -eric

 On Jul 26, 2012, at 11:24 AM, Weldon Goree wrote:

  On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 10:54 -0700, Eric Oyen wrote:
  well, I am wondering what packages I can use to edit man pages.
 
  The pages themselves are marked-up text; just use a text editor. Note
  that OpenBSD doesn't use groff anymore to render them. Look at
  mandoc(1)
  mdoc(7) (the suggested format)
  man(7) (the legacy format; you may run across it in older pages you're
  editing)
 
  As an example, here's mdoc(7) in its text format, via cvsweb:
 
 


http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/share/man/man7/mdoc.7?rev=1.93;cont
 ent-type=text%2Fplain
 
  That's what you would be editing.
 
  Weldon
 
  Weldon



Re: Calomel.org

2012-07-27 Thread Wojciech Puchar

mdoc(7) (the suggested format)
Ah, the yin and yang of formats and tools ... is there a WYSIWIG editor for 
mdoc format?

WHAT?!

ROTFL!

mdoc format, JUST LIKE HTML, is not 1:1 representation of display, but a 
text intermixed with commands/tags that define what is what and how.


You just reminded me funny HTML pages (about 99% of all) that is made up 
for constant width because webmasters don't understand what is HTML for.




Re: editing man pages for the blind in mind [was: Re: Calomel.org]

2012-07-27 Thread David Coppa
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote:
 yep. looks like I need to come up to current then. 4.7 is definitely a little
 out of date.  I might have to set it up in a vmware session on the linux box
 and see if I can pipe the console to an internal serial port and read it with
 a common comm application. the X display would be a bit harder to deal with
 without some initial sighted assistance to get things up and running.

 I seriously wish I could get OpenBSD working with orca on my powerbook G3
 Lombard. I had tried before with the help of another member on here (Super
 Biscuit) but ran into a few problems, mostly resulting from an issue with
 ALTIVEC, which isn't on that version of the PPC chipset).

Update to -current (or 5.2 when it will be available), and install
orca from packages.

It's just a matter of:

# export PKG_PATH=ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/packages/`arch
-s`/

or

# export PKG_PATH=ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/`uname
-r`/packages/`arch -s`/

and then:

# pkg_add -v orca

Cheers,
David



Re: editing man pages for the blind in mind [was: Re: Calomel.org]

2012-07-27 Thread David Coppa
On Fri, 27 Jul 2012, David Coppa wrote:

 On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote:
  yep. looks like I need to come up to current then. 4.7 is definitely a 
  little
  out of date.  I might have to set it up in a vmware session on the linux box
  and see if I can pipe the console to an internal serial port and read it 
  with
  a common comm application. the X display would be a bit harder to deal with
  without some initial sighted assistance to get things up and running.
 
  I seriously wish I could get OpenBSD working with orca on my powerbook G3
  Lombard. I had tried before with the help of another member on here (Super
  Biscuit) but ran into a few problems, mostly resulting from an issue with
  ALTIVEC, which isn't on that version of the PPC chipset).
 
 Update to -current (or 5.2 when it will be available), and install
 orca from packages.

Damn gmail, it fscked up my previous mail. Sorry.

I said...

Update to -current (or 5.2 when it will be available), and install
orca from packages.

It's just a matter of:

# export PKG_PATH=ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/packages/`arch 
-s`/

or (if you use a release):

# export PKG_PATH=ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/`uname -r`/packages/`arch 
-s`/

and then:

# pkg_add -v orca

Cheers,
David



Re: editing man pages for the blind in mind [was: Re: Calomel.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2012-07-26, Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote:
 one last item, the machine I am using to testbed this doesn't have a dedicated
 serial port (they no longer include those on commodity hardware anymore) so
 having the output routed there is out.

-current can provide a full system console on a PCI serial port,
setup is a bit fiddly as the boot loader doesn't enumerate
devices itself, but it's not too bad - basically identify
the i/o address using pcidump and set it in boot.conf with
'machine comaddr'.

you would also need a login console on the relevant device
via /etc/ttys, this is already possible in earlier releases,
the new thing is the system console.



Re: disk_map in subr_disk.c

2012-07-27 Thread Tobias Ulmer
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:37:32PM +0200, Frank Brodbeck wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 10:51:56PM +0200, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
  Userland prorams do not share memory or symbols with the kernel at all
  that is a fundamental thing in Unix. Your code just references a bunch
  of uninitialized vars. 
  
  Chekc opendev(3) (source in src/lib/libutil/opendev.c) which is a
  userland function to do the translation you want. Note it interfaces
  with the kernel via ioctl(2), the actual work is done by the diskmap
  device driver that calls disk_map(), all in kernel mode.
 
 Funny, I first looked at opendev(3) and the DIOCMAP ioctl before I went
 on to disk_map(). Obviously I missed something. Will have a look at
 opendev(3) again. 
 
 Thanks a lot for the pointer.
 
 Frank.

Maybe this helps:

#include sys/types.h
#include sys/dkio.h
#include sys/disk.h
#include sys/ioctl.h

#include err.h
#include fcntl.h
#include limits.h
#include stdio.h
#include stdlib.h
#include string.h
#include unistd.h

int
main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
struct dk_diskmap dm;
const char *dmpath = /dev/diskmap;
char dev[PATH_MAX];
char *d;

if (argc != 2) {
fprintf(stderr, usage: duid2dev duid|device\n);
exit(1);
}

bzero(dm, sizeof(dm));
dm.flags = DM_OPENPART;

if ((dm.fd = open(dmpath, O_RDONLY))  0)
err(1, open: %s, dmpath);

strlcpy(dev, argv[1], PATH_MAX);
dm.device = dev;

if (ioctl(dm.fd, DIOCMAP, dm) == -1)
err(1, ioctl);

d = strrchr(dm.device, '/');
if (d[1] == 'r')
dm.device = d + 2;
else
dm.device = d + 1;
dm.device[strlen(dm.device) - 1] = '\0';

printf(%s\n, dm.device);
close(dm.fd);
exit(0);
}

 
 -- 
 Frank Brodbeck f...@guug.de



USB not working after resume

2012-07-27 Thread Jes
Hi:

Yes, I didn't attach dmesg or usbdevs because I thought it was a known
issue.

Well, my T410 has USB 3.0 ports, but before suspend everything works:
mouse, pendrives, SD card reader, usb 3G modem, etc. After resume
there's no power in any usb port.

My dmesg:

OpenBSD 5.2 (GENERIC.MP) #365: Tue Jul 24 09:39:12 MDT 2012
dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
real mem = 8373387264 (7985MB)
avail mem = 8128118784 (7751MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.6 @ 0xe0010 (78 entries)
bios0: vendor LENOVO version 6IET68WW (1.28 ) date 07/12/2010
bios0: LENOVO 2537D99
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SSDT ECDT APIC MCFG HPET ASF! SLIC BOOT SSDT
TCPA DMAR SSDT SSDT SSDT acpi0: wakeup devices LID_(S3) SLPB(S3)
UART(S3) IGBE(S4) EXP1(S4) EXP2(S4) EXP3(S4) EXP4(S4) EXP5(S4) EHC1(S3)
EHC2(S3) HDEF(S4) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits acpiec0 at
acpi0 acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 520 @ 2.40GHz, 2394.38 MHz
cpu0:
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,PCLMUL,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT,AES,NXE,LONG,LAHF
cpu0: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache cpu0: apic clock running at 133MHz
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 520 @ 2.40GHz, 2394.00 MHz
cpu1:
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,PCLMUL,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT,AES,NXE,LONG,LAHF
cpu1: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 4
(application processor) cpu2: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 520 @ 2.40GHz,
2394.00 MHz cpu2:
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,PCLMUL,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT,AES,NXE,LONG,LAHF
cpu2: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 5
(application processor) cpu3: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 520 @ 2.40GHz,
2394.00 MHz cpu3:
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,PCLMUL,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT,AES,NXE,LONG,LAHF
cpu3: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 1 pa
0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 2,
remapped to apid 1 acpimcfg0 at acpi0 addr 0xe000, bus 0-255
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus -1 (PEG_)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 2 (EXP1)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 3 (EXP2)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (EXP3)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus 5 (EXP4)
acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 13 (EXP5)
acpicpu0 at acpi0: C3, C1, PSS
acpicpu1 at acpi0: C3, C1, PSS
acpicpu2 at acpi0: C3, C1, PSS
acpicpu3 at acpi0: C3, C1, PSS
acpipwrres0 at acpi0: PUBS
acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature is 100 degC
acpibtn0 at acpi0: LID_
acpibtn1 at acpi0: SLPB
acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT0 model 42T4791 serial 27807 type LION oem
SANYO acpibat1 at acpi0: BAT1 not present
acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit online
acpithinkpad0 at acpi0
cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 2394 MHz: speeds: 2400, 2399, 2266, 2133,
1999, 1866, 1733, 1599, 1466, 1333, 1199 MHz pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel Core Host rev 0x02
vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel HD Graphics rev 0x02
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
intagp0 at vga1
agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0xd000, size 0x1000
inteldrm0 at vga1: apic 1 int 16
drm0 at inteldrm0
Intel 3400 MEI rev 0x06 at pci0 dev 22 function 0 not configured
Intel 3400 KT rev 0x06 at pci0 dev 22 function 3 not configured
em0 at pci0 dev 25 function 0 Intel 82577LM rev 0x06: msi, address
f0:de:f1:11:5e:42 ehci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 0 Intel 3400 USB rev
0x06: apic 1 int 23 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 Intel 3400 HD Audio rev 0x06: msi
azalia0: codecs: Conexant/0x5069, Intel/0x2804, using Conexant/0x5069
audio0 at azalia0
ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 3400 PCIE rev 0x06: msi
pci1 at ppb0 bus 2
ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 Intel 3400 PCIE rev 0x06: msi
pci2 at ppb1 bus 3
iwn0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6200 rev
0x35: msi, MIMO 2T2R, MoW, address 00:27:10:81:bf:1c ppb2 at pci0 dev
28 function 3 Intel 3400 PCIE rev 0x06: msi pci3 at ppb2 bus 5
ppb3 at pci0 dev 28 function 4 Intel 3400 PCIE rev 0x06: msi
pci4 at ppb3 bus 13
sdhc0 at pci4 dev 0 function 0 Ricoh 5U822 SD/MMC rev 0x01: apic 1
int 16 sdmmc0 at sdhc0
Ricoh 5U230 Memory Stick rev 0x01 at pci4 dev 0 function 1 not
configured Ricoh 5U832 Firewire rev 0x01 

Re: sshguard

2012-07-27 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2012-07-25, Chris Lobkowicz chris.lobkow...@me.com wrote:

 sshguard prefers to use the log-sucker way of parsing authlog. I don't
 even have a mention of sshguard in syslog.conf.

This is still using the log-sucker method, just on standard input
rather than a file.

 the rc script just basically daemonises sshguard, and points it at
 /var/log/authlog

 # /etc/rc.d/sshguard
 daemon=/usr/local/sbin/sshguard
 # REALLY Touchy version
 daemon_flags=-a 3 -l /var/log/authlog -w /var/db/sshguard/friends.db
 - -b 5:/var/db/sshguard/blacklist.db
 # Less Touchy Version
 #daemon_flags=-l /var/log/authlog -w /var/db/sshguard/friends.db -b
 5:/var/db/sshguard/blacklist.db

Editing scripts in /etc/rc.d will give you problems at upgrade time.
I don't know where else we can document this as the relevant manuals
already tell you how to configure flags in rc.conf.local. It works the
same way as programs from the base OS e.g. sshguard_flags=blah blah.
See rc.d(8) for more.



Re: [5.1] pflow(4) flow with starttime *after* endtime

2012-07-27 Thread Hrvoje Popovski
On 26.7.2012. 18:31, Patrick Lamaiziere wrote:
 Hello,
 
 We have just noticed that pflow (v5) sometime (but often) uses a
 StartTime value which is later than the EndTime.
 So the duration is interpreted 4294966.29600 secondes.
 This confuses our collector (nfsen).
 
 (wireshark)
pdu 19/30
 SrcAddr: 194.57.169.116 (194.57.169.116)
 DstAddr: 129.20.254.1 (129.20.254.1)
 NextHop: 0.0.0.0 (0.0.0.0)
 InputInt: 0
 OutputInt: 0
 Packets: 3
 Octets: 164
 [Duration: 4294966.29600 seconds]
 StartTime: 251367.0 seconds
 EndTime: 251366.0 seconds
 SrcPort: 55680
 DstPort: 53
 padding
 TCP Flags: 0x00
 Protocol: 6
 IP ToS: 0x00
 SrcAS: 0
 DstAS: 0
 SrcMask: 0 (prefix: 194.57.169.116/32)
 DstMask: 0 (prefix: 129.20.254.1/32)
 padding
 
 Any clue?
 Thanks, regards.
 

i have same problem, 4294906.296 is the most common flow duration in
nfsen :)



ipsec between 5.0 5.1

2012-07-27 Thread lilit-aibolit

Hi misc.
is it possible?



Re: ipsec between 5.0 5.1

2012-07-27 Thread Mike Belopuhov
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 10:33 AM, lilit-aibolit lilit-aibo...@mail.ru wrote:
 Hi misc.
 is it possible?


why wouldn't it be?



Re: Clues as to how to record audio

2012-07-27 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Jan Stary h...@stare.cz wrote:

 If you want to record an intenet-streaming radio,
 just ftp(1) the htttp://radio.org:1234/stream.mp3
 - I have written me a simple shell wrapper to do that:

Personally, I've found curl(1) (ports/net/curl) with its --max-time
option handy for that.

-- 
Christian naddy Weisgerber  na...@mips.inka.de



Re: Windows 7 and IkeV2 VPN Issue

2012-07-27 Thread Mike Belopuhov
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 9:27 PM, Bentley, Dain dbent...@nas.edu wrote:
 Hello fellow OpenBSD users,

 I've run into a of couple issues with setting up and IKE IPSEC VPN with a
 windows 7 native client.  Now I've ran through the lists and have found a
 solution to get it working somewhat how I'd like it working.


 And on my W7 client I have a static IP configured and using machine
 certificates.  I connect there with no issue and everything is kosher...kind
 of.

 I want to use a username and password so I have this in my iked.conf:

 user my user ID Wouldn't_you_like_to_know?

 When I do this I get an error:
 Error Code 13803 IKE Negotiation in progress and it just sits there.  Has
 anyone gotten this to work before?


Sure.


 Any help would be appreciated.  Is there any setting or something I should
 apply?  I'm running windows with 7 within NAT.  Like I said, certs work fine,
 password and usernames do not.


Are you running -current version of iked?  Because you have to.



OpenNTPD as NTP server problem and the manual

2012-07-27 Thread f5b
1.
Only after OpenNTPD server log(/var/log/daemon) display ntpd [] clock is 
now synced
NTP client can now sync time successful.

Should manual in ntpd  ntpd.conf mention this for hurry man?

2. 
OpenNTPD server in local net(192.168.0.1)

Windows 7 client sync time successful from 192.168.0.1 within  3s,
Windows 7 client sync time successful from time.windows.com  within 3s,

.vs.

Windows XP client sync time successful from 192.168.0.1 need more than 15s,
Windows XP client sync time successful from time.windows.com within 3s.

Why? May OpenNTPD improve?


-
kern.version=OpenBSD 5.2 (GENERIC.MP) #365: Tue Jul 24 09:39:12 MDT 2012

dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP



Re: Windows 7 and IkeV2 VPN Issue

2012-07-27 Thread Bentley, Dain
I see that now
It appears after browsing through the lists more a.change was.comitted
sometime in May or June that fixed the issue.

Regards,
Dain Bentley

-Original Message-
From: Mike Belopuhov [m...@crypt.org.ru]
Received: Friday, 27 Jul 2012, 6:54am
To: Bentley, Dain [dbent...@nas.edu]
CC: owner-m...@openbsd.org [owner-m...@openbsd.org]; misc@openbsd.org
[misc@openbsd.org]
Subject: Re: Windows 7 and IkeV2 VPN Issue

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 9:27 PM, Bentley, Dain dbent...@nas.edu wrote:
 Hello fellow OpenBSD users,

 I've run into a of couple issues with setting up and IKE IPSEC VPN with a
 windows 7 native client.  Now I've ran through the lists and have found a
 solution to get it working somewhat how I'd like it working.


 And on my W7 client I have a static IP configured and using machine
 certificates.  I connect there with no issue and everything is
kosher...kind
 of.

 I want to use a username and password so I have this in my iked.conf:

 user my user ID Wouldn't_you_like_to_know?

 When I do this I get an error:
 Error Code 13803 IKE Negotiation in progress and it just sits there.  Has
 anyone gotten this to work before?


Sure.


 Any help would be appreciated.  Is there any setting or something I should
 apply?  I'm running windows with 7 within NAT.  Like I said, certs work
fine,
 password and usernames do not.


Are you running -current version of iked?  Because you have to.



Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Eric Oyen
I use OpenOffice for editing html pages. this makes editing web pages
remarkably easy for me. Believe me, editing raw html is a real pita. so, if I
want to properly edit a man page, I need to use something that supports DOC 7?
that wood be nice to have on my OS X system.

Here's a really funny point. I have been getting told that command line
systems are obsolete and that everyone is going to the GUI (be it windows, OS
X or some other). yet most of these systems still depend on some command line
experience. Frankly, I would rather use a command line based system that is
already security hardened (OpenBSD). that would leave out a lot of overhead.

someone else mentioned using VI for a command line editor. thats definitely an
oldie but still very powerful. I prefer the use of nano myself.  its not as
powerful but can do what I need it to do with a minimum of fuss.

here are some links about blindness and using OpenBSD.
this first one is from 2006 from the OpenBSD Journal:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=braille+screenreader+OpenBSDsource=we
bcd=1ved=0CKIEEBYwAAurl=http%3A%2F%2Fundeadly.org%2Fcgi%3Faction%3Darticle
%26sid%3D20061011142519ei=dIYSUP3sDoyq8ASW94HwAgusg=AFQjCNHFOzU5dYwJpVG4bPI
ohqKaxdY1bg

here is something from this list some time ago. this link indicates the trials
and tribulations of making OpenBSD work with a braille display:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=braille+screenreader+OpenBSDsource=we
bcd=6ved=0CKgEEBYwBQurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mentby.com%2FGroup%2Fopenbsd-misc
%2Fa-live-cddvd.htmlei=dIYSUP3sDoyq8ASW94HwAgusg=AFQjCNEmQO0H67h3CX888QJjuy
h-qnyBjA

a braille API that works in Linux and all flavors of BSD:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=braille+screenreader+OpenBSDsource=we
bcd=8ved=0CKsEEBYwBwurl=http%3A%2F%2Fhal.inria.fr%2Fdocs%2F00%2F13%2F59%2F
46%2FTEX%2Fthibault-hinderer-icta-2007.texei=dIYSUP3sDoyq8ASW94HwAgusg=AFQj
CNExhilt0qbpLvZXKCLVxltZ8-6DqQ

if I remember correctly, bratty is an included package (it may be in the ports
tree, but I think its included in the primary install). Since I am still
learning braille, it would be nice to be able to connect that display through
the appropriate port and be able to install and configure without having to
install other packages for a screen reader in the BSD.rd installer.I have
recently acquired a BrailleX ELBA 40 cell display for this purpose. I am still
a long way from being proficient, but being able to interface with a machine
during all aspects of startup and installation would certainly be nice.

anyway, reading a man page might be a lot easier with braille. however, since
I don't know braille well enough, that is outside the point of the topic (for
now).

-eric
On Jul 26, 2012, at 7:22 PM, Ted Unangst wrote:

 On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 17:27, Eric Oyen wrote:
 man,
 the format of that page is ugly to listen to. lots of back slashes. I
noticed
 there didn't appear to be any line/returns in there (and that is
 something my
 screen reader doesn't make clear either).

 It is a markup language.  Is editing HTML any easier?  If there's man
 page content you'd like to see improved, diffs are appreciated but not
 strictly necessary.  I think someone will be able to patch things for
 you if you provide improved text.  But don't just say the X man page
 could be better, nobody's going to do anything in response to that.



Re: sshguard

2012-07-27 Thread Chris Lobkowicz
Hmm, good point. I hadn't considered the potential issues at upgrade
time. Thanks for pointing that out and saving me significant frustration
in November.

On 27/07/2012 03:04, Stuart Henderson wrote:
 Editing scripts in /etc/rc.d will give you problems at upgrade time.
 I don't know where else we can document this as the relevant manuals
 already tell you how to configure flags in rc.conf.local. It works the
 same way as programs from the base OS e.g. sshguard_flags=blah blah.
 See rc.d(8) for more.



thinkpad x220 boot 5.1 freeze

2012-07-27 Thread Pau
Hi,

I am trying to install 5.1 on a thinkpad x220 with the i386 image.

The system freezes at boot and the last line of dmesg is

scsibus2 at umass1: 2 targets, initiatior 0

I am booting from an external usb-CD drive and tried from all usb ports
and the result was the same.

Using a recent (5.2) snapshot did not work, and the problem was the same.

What is going on? Any help will be appreciated.

I installed other OS on the same machine, and had no problems, so
maybe this is not related to hardware.

Thanks



Re: Calomel.org sucks ass

2012-07-27 Thread Peter Laufenberg
On 07/26/12 03:04, Peter Laufenberg wrote:
 Everytime you follow a non official documentation, you waste your time
 and the developer's time, we're not cranky about calomel only, we're
 cranky about people following unofficial documentation, remember, our
 FAQ and manpages are accurate 99.99% of the time and they are pretty
 well written and complete.
 90% of the time the problem is finding the right man page. F.ex. the FAQ 
 starts with pppoe(8) which leads to the gigantic ppp(8) and you're shit out 
 of luck if you read all those only to find out pppoe(4) is what you really 
 want.
Try:
apropos (1) - locate commands by keyword lookup

# apropos ppoe
pppoe (4) - PPP Over Ethernet protocol network interface
pppoe (8) - PPP Over Ethernet translator

Again I was following the FAQ.

-- p



Re: Calomel.org

2012-07-27 Thread Peter Laufenberg
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:24:31PM +0200, Peter Laufenberg wrote:
 That said, the attitude you're displaying does no one any favors: nobody'ss
 here to make you feel special; either you're willing to put in the work
 or you aren't.
 
 Who the fuck do you think you are to use that tone? The royal we? Are 
 those mutual favors a currency I can trade for a cash? Will the OpenBSD 
 community branding me special get me more work? pussy? the INS fast-lane? 
 Nope. *IF* I decide to put in the work, mylord, it'll be on my own terms 
 so you can get off your high horse and drop that plastic monocle replica.
 
 I got my own agenda; if there was general support for a mediawiki-based site 
 that includes the new Lua bindings I could partially wrap that into my 
 current job on my remote Lua debugger. Assuming I don't completely botch it, 
 I would be doing a favour to the OpenBSD community in return for nothing, as 
 do others, but it's pretty clear by now that change is not exactly welcome.
 
 I'm not going to piss against the wind and invest energy in a project doomed 
 to fail, especially given your condescending tone that does no one any 
 favors.
 
 -- p
 

I refuse to do any work until my ego is properly stroked! is no way to go
through life.

Agreed, that is exactly what I wrote.

-- p



Re: Calomel.org

2012-07-27 Thread Peter Laufenberg
Ted Unangst [t...@tedunangst.com] wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 09:53, Peter Laufenberg wrote:
 
  /reference/, they're not meant to solve high-level problems. The FAQs are
  really are no FAQs at all but a gigantic snowball with floppy install
  instructions crucially leaving out 5 1/4 and 8 media.
 
 That's because 5 and 8 floppy drives aren't supported for installation.

He was just being sarcastic. Peter's (well taken) point is that OpenBSD is 
crucially lacking support for the larger floppy media from the last 40 years. 
A large oversight, indeed. Ever since I read it hours ago, I have been working 
furiously adding support for PDP-11s so that we have something that can accept 
an 8 floppy drive. I've also decided to take the second challenge, and shrink 
the install media down to 1.2MB to support a 5.25 floppy. I think we finally 
have a way out of this mess.

Awesome, I can *finally* put those Commodore64 drives to use!

:)

-- p



Re: USB not working after resume

2012-07-27 Thread Peter Laufenberg
Yes, I didn't attach dmesg or usbdevs because I thought it was a known
issue.

Well, my T410 has USB 3.0 ports, but before suspend everything works:
mouse, pendrives, SD card reader, usb 3G modem, etc. After resume
there's no power in any usb port.

USB 3.0 interface are capable of supplying much more power than USB 2.0; some 
PCIe USB 3.0 cards have an extra power connector the way higher-end video cards 
do. Unless your attached devices are actually USB 3.0-able the extra features 
are useless.

Maybe your BIOS has an option to switch them to USB 2.0 compat mode.

-- p



Re: Calomel.org [patch for the afterboot.8 man page]

2012-07-27 Thread ropers
On 26 July 2012 18:14, Matthew Dempsky matt...@dempsky.org wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:23 AM, John Long codeb...@inbox.lv wrote:
 +.Pa http://www.openbsd.org/faq .

 mdoc(7) says Lk should be used for hyperlinks, though we don't
 actually do that in any of our manuals currently.  I think it would be
 nice to start doing so though so that HTML and PDF formatted manual
 pages can provide proper hyperlinks.

Why is Pa only found in the MACRO REFERENCE section of mdoc(7) and not
in the MACRO OVERVIEW? Is it deprecated?



Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread ropers
On 27 July 2012 14:50, Eric Oyen technomage.ha...@gmail.com wrote:
 I need to use something that supports DOC 7?

What is DOC 7? Do you mean the Microsoft Office 97 binary .doc file format?



Re: thinkpad x220 boot 5.1 freeze

2012-07-27 Thread Pau
PS: A bit more of info can be found here, a pic I took from dmesg

http://i49.tinypic.com/zx2lbo.jpg

On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Pau vim.u...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I am trying to install 5.1 on a thinkpad x220 with the i386 image.

 The system freezes at boot and the last line of dmesg is

 scsibus2 at umass1: 2 targets, initiatior 0

 I am booting from an external usb-CD drive and tried from all usb ports
 and the result was the same.

 Using a recent (5.2) snapshot did not work, and the problem was the same.

 What is going on? Any help will be appreciated.

 I installed other OS on the same machine, and had no problems, so
 maybe this is not related to hardware.

 Thanks



Re: Calomel.org [patch for the afterboot.8 man page]

2012-07-27 Thread Matthew Dempsky
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 6:19 AM, ropers rop...@gmail.com wrote:
 Why is Pa only found in the MACRO REFERENCE section of mdoc(7) and not
 in the MACRO OVERVIEW? Is it deprecated?

It's under the Semantic markup for command line utilities subsection.



Re: OpenNTPD as NTP server problem and the manual

2012-07-27 Thread Henning Brauer
* f5b f...@163.com [2012-07-27 13:02]:
 1.
 Only after OpenNTPD server log(/var/log/daemon) display ntpd [] clock is 
 now synced
 NTP client can now sync time successful.
 
 Should manual in ntpd  ntpd.conf mention this for hurry man?

no. wether the client accepts answers with the alarm flag (which
essentially means unsynced) is up to the client.

 2. 
 OpenNTPD server in local net(192.168.0.1)
 
 Windows 7 client sync time successful from 192.168.0.1 within  3s,
 Windows 7 client sync time successful from time.windows.com  within 3s,
 
 .vs.
 
 Windows XP client sync time successful from 192.168.0.1 need more than 15s,
 Windows XP client sync time successful from time.windows.com within 3s.
 
 Why? May OpenNTPD improve?

why? maybe windows stupid?

-- 
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Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Technomage Hawke
it was mentioned in another posting in this thread. I am not sure what uses
that specific format.

-eric

On Jul 27, 2012, at 6:27 AM, ropers wrote:

 On 27 July 2012 14:50, Eric Oyen technomage.ha...@gmail.com wrote:
 I need to use something that supports DOC 7?

 What is DOC 7? Do you mean the Microsoft Office 97 binary .doc file format?



Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Eric Oyen
something like that.

also, you might see a few responses from my alternate email
(technomage.hawke@***.***). I need to make sure my send field is set
correctly. g.

I am not sure what application would be good for editing (or creating) man
pages such that I don't need to worry about all of those codes.

-eric
On Jul 27, 2012, at 12:17 AM, Vadim Zhukov wrote:

 Am I right you need ASCII-like output without extra formatting (e.g.,
terminal escape codes)? Something like:

 xyz utility does the following: blah-blah. The options are as follows: -h
to make you happy. -k to kill your ex-girl's kitten. -v to make sure everyone
know what are you doing. See also manual page for cat in section one, manual
page for kill in section one and for wall in section one.

 This could be accomplished by new backbend for mandoc, as I can understand.
Other easy would be to teach your screen reader to mdoc(7) and man(7) formats.
This will do it best as you'll have hyperlinks and other stuff the way you
want.

 ... And for now going with MANPAGER and /etc/man.conf will be your best
option, I think.

 27.07.2012 4:33 пользователь Eric Oyen eric.o...@gmail.com
написал:
 man,
 the format of that page is ugly to listen to. lots of back slashes. I
noticed
 there didn't appear to be any line/returns in there (and that is  something
my
 screen reader doesn't make clear either).

 I will have to find an online version of the man page mentioned below.

 -eric

 On Jul 26, 2012, at 11:24 AM, Weldon Goree wrote:

  On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 10:54 -0700, Eric Oyen wrote:
  well, I am wondering what packages I can use to edit man pages.
 
  The pages themselves are marked-up text; just use a text editor. Note
  that OpenBSD doesn't use groff anymore to render them. Look at
  mandoc(1)
  mdoc(7) (the suggested format)
  man(7) (the legacy format; you may run across it in older pages you're
  editing)
 
  As an example, here's mdoc(7) in its text format, via cvsweb:
 
 

http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/share/man/man7/mdoc.7?rev=1.93;cont
 ent-type=text%2Fplain
 
  That's what you would be editing.
 
  Weldon
 
  Weldon



dovecot-2.1.8 with OpenBSD 5.2-current

2012-07-27 Thread Wesley

Hi,

I'm trying to build a small mail server with OpenSmtpd, and Dovecot 
with the last OpenBSD (Snapshot+Updates = -current).

OpenSmtpd config is OK.

Now i want to install a Dovecot to use pop3s (995):
export 
PKG_PATH=http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/packages/i386/

pkg_add dovecot # this install dovecot-2.1.8

I run : 'tail -f /var/log/maillog '
Just after : i modify the dovecot cnf file at my convenience and run 
/usr/local/sbin/dovecot-mkcert.sh


* I didn't modify the file /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf

I have this error :
Jul 27 19:04:48 current dovecot: master: Dovecot v2.1.8 starting upJ
ul 27 19:04:48 current dovecot: master: Error: service(doveadm): pipe() 
failed:Too many open files
Jd: Too many open files dovecot: master: Error: service(dns_client): 
pipe() faile
Jul 27 19:04:48 current dovecot: master: Error: service(director): 
pipe() failed:

 Too many open files
Jul 27 19:04:48 current dovecot: master: Error: service(dict): pipe() 
failed: Too

 many open files
Jul 27 19:04:48 current dovecot: master: Error: service(config): pipe() 
failed: T

oo many open files
Jul 27 19:04:48 current dovecot: master: Error: service(auth): pipe() 
failed: Too

 many open files
Jul 27 19:04:48 current dovecot: master: Error: service(auth-worker): 
pipe() fail

ed: Too many open files
Jul 27 19:04:58 current dovecot: master: Error: service(anvil): command 
startup f

ailed, throttling for 2 secs
Jul 27 19:04:58 current dovecot: master: Error: service(ssl-params): 
command star

tup failed, throttling for 2 secs
Jul 27 19:04:58 current dovecot: ssl-params: Fatal: Error reading 
configuration:

Timeout reading config from /var/dovecot/config
Jul 27 19:04:58 current dovecot: anvil: Fatal: Error reading 
configuration: Timeo

ut reading config from /var/dovecot/config

Any idea ?

--
Wesley



Re: dovecot-2.1.8 with OpenBSD 5.2-current

2012-07-27 Thread Wesley
Sorry, something is missing, this error arrives just after : 
/etc/rc.d/dovecot start

Any idea ?


I have this error :
Jul 27 19:04:48 current dovecot: master: Dovecot v2.1.8 starting upJ
ul 27 19:04:48 current dovecot: master: Error: service(doveadm):
pipe() failed:Too many open files
Jd: Too many open files dovecot: master: Error: service(dns_client):
pipe() faile
Jul 27 19:04:48 current dovecot: master: Error: service(director):
pipe() failed:
 Too many open files
Jul 27 19:04:48 current dovecot: master: Error: service(dict): pipe()
failed: Too
 many open files
Jul 27 19:04:48 current dovecot: master: Error: service(config):
pipe() failed: T
oo many open files
Jul 27 19:04:48 current dovecot: master: Error: service(auth): pipe()
failed: Too
 many open files
Jul 27 19:04:48 current dovecot: master: Error: service(auth-worker):
pipe() fail
ed: Too many open files
Jul 27 19:04:58 current dovecot: master: Error: service(anvil):
command startup f
ailed, throttling for 2 secs
Jul 27 19:04:58 current dovecot: master: Error: service(ssl-params):
command star
tup failed, throttling for 2 secs
Jul 27 19:04:58 current dovecot: ssl-params: Fatal: Error reading
configuration:
Timeout reading config from /var/dovecot/config
Jul 27 19:04:58 current dovecot: anvil: Fatal: Error reading
configuration: Timeo
ut reading config from /var/dovecot/config

Any idea ?

--
Wesley




Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread ropers
On 27 July 2012 14:50, Eric Oyen technomage.ha...@gmail.com wrote:
 a braille API that works in Linux and all flavors of BSD:
 http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=braille+screenreader+OpenBSDsource=we
 bcd=8ved=0CKsEEBYwBwurl=http%3A%2F%2Fhal.inria.fr%2Fdocs%2F00%2F13%2F59%2F
 46%2FTEX%2Fthibault-hinderer-icta-2007.texei=dIYSUP3sDoyq8ASW94HwAgusg=AFQj
 CNExhilt0qbpLvZXKCLVxltZ8-6DqQ

The google links that you're quoted above seem quite unwieldy here,
though maybe you just ended up sending those due to limitations of
your environment and/or (assistive) tools. Stripped from all the
unwieldy google stuff, this particular link becomes:

http://hal.inria.fr/docs/00/13/59/46/TEX/thibault-hinderer-icta-2007.tex

I found that uncomfortable to read, especially as a pampered sighted
person used to pretty-printed output. I however had problems
converting it to anything I would consider pretty; I found that it
depended on this class file:

http://hal.inria.fr/docs/00/13/59/46/TEX/IEEEconf.cls

Even with that, I didn't quite manage with OpenBSD (there seems to be
no pdftex/pdflatex 386 port). Using my Ubuntu box, I converted the
above tex file to a PDF, which I've taken the liberty to put here:
http://ompldr.org/vZXcxYg (How are PDF files for you? Do your screen
readers deem them edible?)

regards,
Ian



Re: USB not working after resume

2012-07-27 Thread Jes
El Fri, 27 Jul 2012 11:51:51 +0200
Martin Pieuchot mpieuc...@nolizard.org escribió:

 On 27/07/12(Fri) 10:54, Jes wrote:
  Hi:
 
  Yes, I didn't attach dmesg or usbdevs because I thought it was a
  known issue.
 
  Well, my T410 has USB 3.0 ports, but before suspend everything
  works: mouse, pendrives, SD card reader, usb 3G modem, etc. After
  resume there's no power in any usb port.

 Looks like your ehci controller has no pm capability, can you try
 setting 'pci_dopm = 0 in /sys/dev/acpi/acpi.c, as workaround. And let
 me know if it works or not.

 Martin

Hi Martin:

No success. The behaviour is the same as before: no usb power after
resume.

Thanks,

BR



Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Ted Unangst
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 15:27, ropers wrote:
 On 27 July 2012 14:50, Eric Oyen technomage.ha...@gmail.com wrote:
 I need to use something that supports DOC 7?
 
 What is DOC 7? Do you mean the Microsoft Office 97 binary .doc file format?

mdoc.  I think his screen reader doesn't even read man references so
well.

Eric, where you probably read doc 7, it's actually m d o c left
parenthesis 7 right parenthesis.  man page references typically
include the section number as a clue it's a man page.



Re: USB not working after resume

2012-07-27 Thread Jes
El Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:25:37 +0200
Peter Laufenberg open...@laufenberg.ch escribió:

 Yes, I didn't attach dmesg or usbdevs because I thought it was a
 known issue.
 
 Well, my T410 has USB 3.0 ports, but before suspend everything works:
 mouse, pendrives, SD card reader, usb 3G modem, etc. After resume
 there's no power in any usb port.

 USB 3.0 interface are capable of supplying much more power than USB
 2.0; some PCIe USB 3.0 cards have an extra power connector the way
 higher-end video cards do. Unless your attached devices are actually
 USB 3.0-able the extra features are useless.

 Maybe your BIOS has an option to switch them to USB 2.0 compat mode.

 -- p


Hi Peter:

Yes, I know about USB 3.0. I don't use any 3.0 device. And there's no
2.0 compatibility options in bios, as fas as I know. There are one
option to maintain power even in suspend mode to power devices like
phones or modems, and other one for compatibility with devices like
iphones, ipods, and so... I was playing with this two options but no
success. With any combination, the USB port always run fine except
after resume. This maybe an issue with new i3/i5/i7 T4xx/T5xx/Wxxx
lenovo laptops... I don't know. In linux they work fine before and
after resume.

Thanks,

BR



Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Eric Oyen
I tried the copy link option in the context menu for Safari. It should have
given the direct link but I got that instead. sometimes, being blind can be a
real Pain in the backside.

I hope that was a text based pdf. the  pdf app I use here (Safari) will spit a
blank page at me in voiceover if its graphical.

thanks for shortening those links for me.

also, I corrected my email so that it should send from here in the future.

-eric
On Jul 27, 2012, at 8:25 AM, ropers wrote:

 On 27 July 2012 14:50, Eric Oyen technomage.ha...@gmail.com wrote:
 a braille API that works in Linux and all flavors of BSD:
 snipThe google links that you're quoted above seem quite unwieldy here,
 though maybe you just ended up sending those due to limitations of
 your environment and/or (assistive) tools. Stripped from all the
 unwieldy google stuff, this particular link becomes:

 http://hal.inria.fr/docs/00/13/59/46/TEX/thibault-hinderer-icta-2007.tex

 I found that uncomfortable to read, especially as a pampered sighted
 person used to pretty-printed output. I however had problems
 converting it to anything I would consider pretty; I found that it
 depended on this class file:

 http://hal.inria.fr/docs/00/13/59/46/TEX/IEEEconf.cls

 Even with that, I didn't quite manage with OpenBSD (there seems to be
 no pdftex/pdflatex 386 port). Using my Ubuntu box, I converted the
 above tex file to a PDF, which I've taken the liberty to put here:
 http://ompldr.org/vZXcxYg (How are PDF files for you? Do your screen
 readers deem them edible?)

 regards,
 Ian



Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Eric Oyen
h! that explains a lot. now I know where to go. :)

On Jul 27, 2012, at 8:38 AM, Ted Unangst wrote:

 On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 15:27, ropers wrote:
 On 27 July 2012 14:50, Eric Oyen technomage.ha...@gmail.com wrote:
 I need to use something that supports DOC 7?

 What is DOC 7? Do you mean the Microsoft Office 97 binary .doc file
format?

 mdoc.  I think his screen reader doesn't even read man references so
 well.

 Eric, where you probably read doc 7, it's actually m d o c left
 parenthesis 7 right parenthesis.  man page references typically
 include the section number as a clue it's a man page.



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Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Kurt Mosiejczuk

Eric Oyen wrote:
 I tried the copy link option in the context menu for Safari. It 
should have
 given the direct link but I got that instead. sometimes, being blind 
can be a

 real Pain in the backside.

That's not your fault, that is Google (and everyone else) substituting 
their own redirection links so they can track which results you use.  I 
generally have to open the page and then copy the URL to avoid that.


The prevalence of the practice often means that sighted or not, you 
can't be sure where a URL really leads much of the time.


--Kurt



Re: thinkpad x220 boot 5.1 freeze

2012-07-27 Thread Pau
PPS: tried to boot from a flash usb drive... same result

On Friday, July 27, 2012, Pau wrote:

 PS: A bit more of info can be found here, a pic I took from dmesg

 http://i49.tinypic.com/zx2lbo.jpg

 On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Pau vim.u...@googlemail.comjavascript:;
 wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I am trying to install 5.1 on a thinkpad x220 with the i386 image.



Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 12:51:46PM -0400, Kurt Mosiejczuk wrote:
 Eric Oyen wrote:
  I tried the copy link option in the context menu for Safari. It
 should have
  given the direct link but I got that instead. sometimes, being
 blind can be a
  real Pain in the backside.
 
 That's not your fault, that is Google (and everyone else)
 substituting their own redirection links so they can track which
 results you use.  I generally have to open the page and then copy
 the URL to avoid that.
 
 The prevalence of the practice often means that sighted or not, you
 can't be sure where a URL really leads much of the time.
 
 --Kurt
I'm surprised there aren't more plugins to fix that.

Especially since the  link shows the actual location, encoded !



Re: dovecot-2.1.8 with OpenBSD 5.2-current

2012-07-27 Thread Wesley

I tried this :

ulimit -a give me :
time(cpu-seconds)unlimited
file(blocks) unlimited
coredump(blocks) unlimited
data(kbytes) 2097152
stack(kbytes)8192
lockedmem(kbytes)1016125
memory(kbytes)   3043896
nofiles(descriptors) 7030
processes1310

when i type '/etc/rc.d/dovecot start' give me again :

dovecotJul 27 21:12:08 current dovecot: master: Dovecot v2.1.8 starting 
up

(ok)
# Jul 27 21:12:08 current dovecot: master: Error: service(doveadm): 
pipe() failed: Too many open files
Jul 27 21:12:08 current dovecot: master: Error: service(dns_client): 
pipe() failed: Too many open files
Jul 27 21:12:08 current dovecot: master: Error: service(director): 
pipe() failed: Too many open files
Jul 27 21:12:08 current dovecot: master: Error: service(dict): pipe() 
failed: Too many open files
Jul 27 21:12:08 current dovecot: master: Error: service(config): pipe() 
failed: Too many open files
Jul 27 21:12:08 current dovecot: master: Error: service(auth): pipe() 
failed: Too many open files
Jul 27 21:12:08 current dovecot: master: Error: service(auth-worker): 
pipe() failed: Too many open files


Perhaps i need to play with openfiles-cur keyword in 
/etc/login.conf...

So i increased 'default class' 512 to 2048, 'daemon class' 128 to 2048.
Seems to work ;-)
Any advices ?

Thank you very much for your help !

--
Wesley
www.mouedine.net



Le 2012-07-27 19:30, Mark Patruck a écrit :

Make sure you've increased limits (f.e. open file descriptors).
This is new since v2.1.8. Check the README-server file in the
dovecot-2.1.8 package.

On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 07:22:33PM +0400, Wesley wrote:

Sorry, something is missing, this error arrives just after :
/etc/rc.d/dovecot start
Any idea ?

I have this error :
Jul 27 19:04:48 current dovecot: master: Dovecot v2.1.8 starting 
upJ

ul 27 19:04:48 current dovecot: master: Error: service(doveadm):
pipe() failed:Too many open files
Jd: Too many open files dovecot: master: Error: 
service(dns_client):

pipe() faile
Jul 27 19:04:48 current dovecot: master: Error: service(director):
pipe() failed:
 Too many open files
Jul 27 19:04:48 current dovecot: master: Error: service(dict): 
pipe()

failed: Too
 many open files
Jul 27 19:04:48 current dovecot: master: Error: service(config):
pipe() failed: T
oo many open files
Jul 27 19:04:48 current dovecot: master: Error: service(auth): 
pipe()

failed: Too
 many open files
Jul 27 19:04:48 current dovecot: master: Error: 
service(auth-worker):

pipe() fail
ed: Too many open files
Jul 27 19:04:58 current dovecot: master: Error: service(anvil):
command startup f
ailed, throttling for 2 secs
Jul 27 19:04:58 current dovecot: master: Error: 
service(ssl-params):

command star
tup failed, throttling for 2 secs
Jul 27 19:04:58 current dovecot: ssl-params: Fatal: Error reading
configuration:
Timeout reading config from /var/dovecot/config
Jul 27 19:04:58 current dovecot: anvil: Fatal: Error reading
configuration: Timeo
ut reading config from /var/dovecot/config

Any idea ?

--
Wesley




Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Dennis Davis
On Fri, 27 Jul 2012, ropers wrote:

 From: ropers rop...@gmail.com
 To: Eric Oyen technomage.ha...@gmail.com
 Cc: misc misc@openbsd.org
 Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:25:14
 Subject: Re: man page contents [was: Re: C**.org]

...

 Even with that, I didn't quite manage with OpenBSD (there seems to
 be no pdftex/pdflatex 386 port). Using my Ubuntu box, I converted
 the above tex file to a PDF, which I've taken the liberty to put
 here: http://ompldr.org/vZXcxYg (How are PDF files for you? Do
 your screen readers deem them edible?)

I certainly have pdftex  pdflatex on my 5.1 i386 boxes.  I suspect
they were installed as part of the texlive_base-2011p3.tgz package.
-- 
Dennis Davis, BUCS, University of Bath, Bath, BA2 7AY, UK
d.h.da...@bath.ac.uk   Phone: +44 1225 386101



Re: dovecot-2.1.8 with OpenBSD 5.2-current

2012-07-27 Thread Mark Patruck
Create the new login class for dovecot as stated here and you
should be fine.

http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/ports/mail/dovecot/pkg/README-server?rev=1.1


On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 09:18:21PM +0400, Wesley wrote:
 I tried this :
 
 ulimit -a give me :
 time(cpu-seconds)unlimited
 file(blocks) unlimited
 coredump(blocks) unlimited
 data(kbytes) 2097152
 stack(kbytes)8192
 lockedmem(kbytes)1016125
 memory(kbytes)   3043896
 nofiles(descriptors) 7030
 processes1310
 
 when i type '/etc/rc.d/dovecot start' give me again :
 
 dovecotJul 27 21:12:08 current dovecot: master: Dovecot v2.1.8
 starting up
 (ok)
 # Jul 27 21:12:08 current dovecot: master: Error: service(doveadm):
 pipe() failed: Too many open files
 Jul 27 21:12:08 current dovecot: master: Error: service(dns_client):
 pipe() failed: Too many open files
 Jul 27 21:12:08 current dovecot: master: Error: service(director):
 pipe() failed: Too many open files
 Jul 27 21:12:08 current dovecot: master: Error: service(dict):
 pipe() failed: Too many open files
 Jul 27 21:12:08 current dovecot: master: Error: service(config):
 pipe() failed: Too many open files
 Jul 27 21:12:08 current dovecot: master: Error: service(auth):
 pipe() failed: Too many open files
 Jul 27 21:12:08 current dovecot: master: Error:
 service(auth-worker): pipe() failed: Too many open files
 
 Perhaps i need to play with openfiles-cur keyword in
 /etc/login.conf...
 So i increased 'default class' 512 to 2048, 'daemon class' 128 to 2048.
 Seems to work ;-)
 Any advices ?
 
 Thank you very much for your help !
 
 --
 Wesley
 www.mouedine.net
 
 
 
 Le 2012-07-27 19:30, Mark Patruck a ??crit??:
 Make sure you've increased limits (f.e. open file descriptors).
 This is new since v2.1.8. Check the README-server file in the
 dovecot-2.1.8 package.
 
 On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 07:22:33PM +0400, Wesley wrote:
 Sorry, something is missing, this error arrives just after :
 /etc/rc.d/dovecot start
 Any idea ?
 
 I have this error :
 Jul 27 19:04:48 current dovecot: master: Dovecot v2.1.8
 starting upJ
 ul 27 19:04:48 current dovecot: master: Error: service(doveadm):
 pipe() failed:Too many open files
 Jd: Too many open files dovecot: master: Error:
 service(dns_client):
 pipe() faile
 Jul 27 19:04:48 current dovecot: master: Error: service(director):
 pipe() failed:
  Too many open files
 Jul 27 19:04:48 current dovecot: master: Error: service(dict):
 pipe()
 failed: Too
  many open files
 Jul 27 19:04:48 current dovecot: master: Error: service(config):
 pipe() failed: T
 oo many open files
 Jul 27 19:04:48 current dovecot: master: Error: service(auth):
 pipe()
 failed: Too
  many open files
 Jul 27 19:04:48 current dovecot: master: Error:
 service(auth-worker):
 pipe() fail
 ed: Too many open files
 Jul 27 19:04:58 current dovecot: master: Error: service(anvil):
 command startup f
 ailed, throttling for 2 secs
 Jul 27 19:04:58 current dovecot: master: Error:
 service(ssl-params):
 command star
 tup failed, throttling for 2 secs
 Jul 27 19:04:58 current dovecot: ssl-params: Fatal: Error reading
 configuration:
 Timeout reading config from /var/dovecot/config
 Jul 27 19:04:58 current dovecot: anvil: Fatal: Error reading
 configuration: Timeo
 ut reading config from /var/dovecot/config
 
 Any idea ?
 
 --
 Wesley
 

-- 
Mark Patruck ( mark at wrapped.cx )
GPG key 0xF2865E51 / 187F F6D3 EE04 1DCE 1C74  F644 0D3C F66F F286 5E51

http://www.wrapped.cx



Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread ropers
On 27 July 2012 18:51, Kurt Mosiejczuk kurt-openbsd-m...@se.rit.edu wrote:
 Eric Oyen wrote:
 I tried the copy link option in the context menu for Safari. It should
 have
 given the direct link but I got that instead. sometimes, being blind can
 be a
 real Pain in the backside.

 That's not your fault, that is Google (and everyone else) substituting
their
 own redirection links so they can track which results you use.  I generally
 have to open the page and then copy the URL to avoid that.

 The prevalence of the practice often means that sighted or not, you can't
be
 sure where a URL really leads much of the time.

Ah! Yes, of course; thank you; that explains it. This
usability-hostile tracking/marketing-oriented nonsense is just one of
the ways in which Google increasingly is being slightly (or sometimes
not so slightly) Evil™ these days. If you use Firefox, you can use the
Google/Yandex search link fix add-on to get rid of this complete
mullarkey:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/google-search-link-fix/



Re: dovecot-2.1.8 with OpenBSD 5.2-current

2012-07-27 Thread Wesley
As i said in the last reply, i modified Default and daemon class 
openfiles-cur value to 2048.
I think it is better to follow your link, create a dovecot class and 
add the value.

Thank you a lot. (Andre and Mark)

--
Wesley

Le 2012-07-27 21:36, Andre Keller a écrit :

Hi

 Am 27.07.2012 19:18, schrieb Wesley:


Perhaps i need to play with openfiles-cur keyword in
/etc/login.conf...
So i increased 'default class' 512 to 2048, 'daemon class' 128 to
2048.
Seems to work ;-)


 Did you even look into the readme, that mark pointed out?



http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/ports/mail/dovecot/pkg/README-server?rev=1.1;content-type=text%2Fplain
[1]

For example, add this to the login.conf(5) file:

 dovecot:
 :openfiles-cur=512:
 :openfiles-max=2048:
 :tc=daemon:

Rebuild the login.conf.db file if necessary:

 # [ -f /etc/login.conf.db ]  cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf

 I guess thats all you need to know...



Links:
--
[1]

http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/ports/mail/dovecot/pkg/README-server?rev=1.1;content-type=text%2Fplain




Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Ted Unangst
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 19:11, Marc Espie wrote:

 I'm surprised there aren't more plugins to fix that.
 
 Especially since the  link shows the actual location, encoded !

maybe try this?  pretty simple, worksforme (c).

http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/107272



Re: dovecot-2.1.8 with OpenBSD 5.2-current

2012-07-27 Thread Andre Keller
Hi

Am 27.07.2012 19:18, schrieb Wesley:
 Perhaps i need to play with openfiles-cur keyword in /etc/login.conf...
 So i increased 'default class' 512 to 2048, 'daemon class' 128 to 2048.
 Seems to work ;-)


Did you even look into the readme, that mark pointed out?


http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/ports/mail/dovecot/pkg/README-server?rev=1.1;content-type=text%2Fplain

For example, add this to the login.conf(5) file:

dovecot:\
 :openfiles-cur=512:\
 :openfiles-max=2048:\
 :tc=daemon:

Rebuild the login.conf.db file if necessary:

# [ -f /etc/login.conf.db ]  cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf



I guess thats all you need to know...



Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Eric Oyen
well, the PDF appears to be very readable in Safari. This is a pleasant
surprise indeed.  I have run across some PDF files doing a google search that
were nothing but a series of JPG images (containing text) which locked me out
of viewing them without an OCR tool. My opinion is that if anyone embeds a
graphic in a PDF, that it should be describable and parsed from the text
content. there is already a standard in HTML to do just this (and it wouldn't
be all that hard to implement in a PDF.

h. that may be another method of viewing a man page, converting it to a
text based PDF.  that is something to consider.

-eric

On Jul 27, 2012, at 9:14 AM, Dennis Davis wrote:

 On Fri, 27 Jul 2012, ropers wrote:

 From: ropers rop...@gmail.com
 To: Eric Oyen technomage.ha...@gmail.com
 Cc: misc misc@openbsd.org
 Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 16:25:14
 Subject: Re: man page contents [was: Re: C**.org]

 ...

 Even with that, I didn't quite manage with OpenBSD (there seems to
 be no pdftex/pdflatex 386 port). Using my Ubuntu box, I converted
 the above tex file to a PDF, which I've taken the liberty to put
 here: http://ompldr.org/vZXcxYg (How are PDF files for you? Do
 your screen readers deem them edible?)

 I certainly have pdftex  pdflatex on my 5.1 i386 boxes.  I suspect
 they were installed as part of the texlive_base-2011p3.tgz package.
 --
 Dennis Davis, BUCS, University of Bath, Bath, BA2 7AY, UK
 d.h.da...@bath.ac.uk   Phone: +44 1225 386101



Re: Calomel.org

2012-07-27 Thread Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 05:36:38PM +1000, David Diggles wrote:
 The calomel phenomenon is fascinating!
 
 I was calomeled.
 
 Those who have been calomeled have done the following:
 
 1. lazily google: openbsd tuning (or similar)
 2. click on: Network Tuning and Performance Guide (OpenBSD) - Calomel
(currently ranked 2 on google)

Calomel is ranked 2 on google because it has been linked several hundred
times from this list. Google doesn't know about good/bad opinions or
flamewars. Google only cares about the reputation of the origin of the
link.

Also tens of mailing list archives include the links. So, the OpenBSD
community is the SEO of Calomel. Ironic but true.

 3. lazy and in a hurry to get it working, apply stuff from calomel
 4. lazily email misc without first searching marc.info, referring
to the calomel recipe and asking further questions
 
 While calomel has the high rank in google, this keeps repeating.

-- 
Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado http://juanfra.info



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Re: Calomel.org

2012-07-27 Thread mxb
On Jul 27, 2012, at 8:41 PM, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado wrote:

 Calomel is ranked 2 on google


There is must be a reason why this kind of sites exists.
Ppl whom take care of www.openbsd.org documentation/FAQ maybe have to take a
look and pinpoint what is missing?
For some reason ppl refer to those sites than openbsd.org.

//mxb



Re: Calomel.org

2012-07-27 Thread Peter Laufenberg
Calomel is ranked 2 on google because it has been linked several hundred
times from this list. Google doesn't know about good/bad opinions or
flamewars. Google only cares about the reputation of the origin of the
link.

I don't think that's true; google link:calomel.org -site:calomel.org to find 
sites that link to it.

Pagerank is more sophisticated than that; otherwise it'd be too easy to trick.

-- p



Re: Calomel.org

2012-07-27 Thread Ted Unangst
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 22:51, mxb wrote:
 On Jul 27, 2012, at 8:41 PM, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado wrote:
 
 Calomel is ranked 2 on google
 
 
 There is must be a reason why this kind of sites exists.
 Ppl whom take care of www.openbsd.org documentation/FAQ maybe have to take a
 look and pinpoint what is missing?
 For some reason ppl refer to those sites than openbsd.org.

Because people want their computer to be more faster.  If the FAQ had
a section on more faster, people would still search for a site to make
their computer be more more fasterer.



[www.openbsd.org] faster machines and scareware

2012-07-27 Thread Eric Oyen
a lot of people get sucked into the scareware (al la cleanmypc, macdefender,
etc.).  most of them don't understand (or want to) how their machines operate.
to them, its a black box.  Usually, they just install anything that sounds
zippy to them and then end up spending lots of money to get back to where they
were.  Even Mac users aren't amune to this (though there is a much smaller
percentage of dumb mac users than windows).

One of the advantages to OpenBSD (and other unix like systems) is there are
few pieces of malware floating around out there.  Thanks, in large part, to
Theo and his development team, we are blessed with one of the most secure
operating systems possible (outside of the very occasional exploit or dumb
user mistakes) because of this, I would rather burn 300 watts/hour running a
firewall machine that I have total control over than one of those cheap
commodity router devices (the ones you can get at wal-mart or best buy).

btw, I hope no one minds if I plug OpenBSD's website in the subject. this is a
method of trying to get the site back up to better rankings in google.

-eric

On Jul 27, 2012, at 2:20 PM, Ted Unangst wrote:

 On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 22:51, mxb wrote:
 On Jul 27, 2012, at 8:41 PM, Juan Francisco Cantero Hurtado wrote:

 Calomel is ranked 2 on google


 There is must be a reason why this kind of sites exists.
 Ppl whom take care of www.openbsd.org documentation/FAQ maybe have to take
a
 look and pinpoint what is missing?
 For some reason ppl refer to those sites than openbsd.org.

 Because people want their computer to be more faster.  If the FAQ had
 a section on more faster, people would still search for a site to make
 their computer be more more fasterer.



Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Brett
  that may be another method of viewing a man page

You can use:

man manpagename | col -b  file

to convert a page to a text file, this might be easier for you to read/edit.

Brett.



Re: man page contents [was: Re: C******.org]

2012-07-27 Thread Anthony J. Bentley
Eric Oyen writes:
 h. that may be another method of viewing a man page, converting it to a
 text based PDF.  that is something to consider.

mandoc supports PDF output as well. For example, with the following command:

mandoc -Tpdf  /usr/share/man/man1/ls.1   /tmp/ls.pdf



Re: thinkpad x220 boot 5.1 freeze

2012-07-27 Thread ml
Hi Pau,

Owner of a Thinkpad x220 here. 
As far as I can remember, my laptop does actually 'freeze' for a few minutes 
when booting from usb flash drive. This does not happen after installation. 

Please wait around 5-10 minutes or more, everything should work fine after that.

Regards,
Alex

P.S. I use Thinkpad x220 + OpenBSD 5.1 as my primary development machine. Many 
thanks to people, who made that possible!