Re: alternatives to sendmail
You should start by reading this: http://openbsd.org/faq/faq15.html#PkgMgmt Just set your PKG_PATH variable and then it's a simple 'pkg_add' to install your favorite MTA: # export PKG_PATH=ftp://your.ftp.mirror/pub/OpenBSD/4.1/packages/`machine -a`/ # pkg_add -i exim OR # pkg_add -i postfix OR # pkg_add -i whatever -Jd On 6/4/07, Douglas Allan Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm totally new to OBSD and have it installed on my 486 which acts basically like a slim client allowing me to ssh in to my main box. OBSD comes with sendmail which I have never knowingly used before and while it works as-is for local mail delivery, I thought I'd set it up to send non-local mail to my main box as a smarthost. However, sendmail is a very steep and tall learning curve. I'm coming from Debian (which no longer installes with 32 MB ram) so I'm used to exim. I know that exim is GPL. I'm wondering if there are other BSD-licensed MTAs. While in this case, setting up outgoing mail isn't important, I'm using the box also as a test-bed to see how well OBSD would work instead of Debian on my main box. Being able to configure mail in that case is quite important, since without it I can't ask for help :) Thanks, Doug.
Re: APC UPSD
If you want to use an APC UPS you might need to compile nut from ports (or download and compile the latest version). For some reason, the newhidups/hidups drivers are not in the 4.1 package and are not compiled when using vanilla ports (those are the drivers needed by most usb APC UPS, look it up to be sure). There seems to be a problem in the hidups driver (somewhere it requires /usr/linux/something) so it never gets compiled...and for some reason the newhidups driver doesn't get compiled either. I had to add to do ./configure --with-drivers=newhidups to compile the newhidups driver. My two cents, Jd On 5/20/07, John Nietzsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to try nut! Does anybody have it working with APC USB UPS ? Could you send me you configuration file? Thanks in advance. On 5/20/07, Patrick Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 13:11:39 -0300 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: APC UPSD What about USB support? Is there any in ports collection supoprting USB? Thanks in advance. On 5/19/07, Patrick Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 03:48:49 -0300 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: APC UPSD Dear gentleman, i realized apc-upsd port in 4.1 does not support USB UPS devices. Is anyone here aware of a patch for it? Thanks in advance. Best regards. Hi, the apcupsd port is very old, so it should not be used. You can try the latest source from their website, which seems to work well for most people, if you follow their instructions carefully. I personnally use it with an USB SmartUPS 1500. Soyez parmi les premiers ` essayer Windows Live Mail. Not for apc-upsd. Your can try nut, available as a package. It will work with usb since the port is up-to-date. However, as I said, apc-upsd works perfectly for me with usb, using the version from their official website that I compiled from source. There is also upsd that you can try, also not available as a package, you must compile from source. Soyez parmi les premiers ` essayer Windows Live Mail.
Any Gotchas when installing on a box and running on another box?
Hi everyone, What do I have to take into account if I plan on doing a fresh install in one box and then take the hard drive and put it in another box? I am aware of the networking configs that I will have to change. But apart from that, can this cause any problem? Thank you, -Jd
Recommendation for a UPS
Hi everyone, I have to replace a UPS and I was wondering if anyone could make a recommendation (Last time I purchased one was 4 years ago, so I've a bit out of the loop by now). Here is what I will be working with: - Fresh install of 4.1 (as soon as my copy gets here) - I Will probably be using nut to shutdown the server. I'm trying to find something that won't require too much configs/poking around. I'm not looking for something fancy either, I just need enough juice to shutdown the server properly when the electricity goes out. Thank you for your time, -Jd
Re: Recommendation for a UPS
What are your power requirements? Just a single server? How big of a system are we talking about? ...mainframe, onyx, or a single opteron? Regards, ~Jason My power requirements are very small. The server is running an Athlon xp 2000+ with 2 HDDs in raid 1 (no screen). And that's the only thing that will be attached to the UPS. Regards, -Jd
Problem installing DSPAM (with postfix)
Hi eveyrone, I am having a bit of trouble installing DSPAM with Postfix. The problem seems to be with the unix socket (and my lack of knowledge on the subjecT). Here is a small snippet of the config fordspam and postfix: # grep -R -e 'dspam.sock' /etc/* /etc/dspam.conf:ServerDomainSocketPath /tmp/dspam.sock /etc/dspam.conf:#ClientHost /tmp/dspam.sock /etc/postfix/master.cf:-o content_filter=lmtp:unix:/tmp/dspam.sock And here is the content of /tmp: -- # ls -l total 0 srwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 0 Apr 9 20:11 dspam.sock And unfortunately I get the following errors in /var/log/maillog: Apr 10 00:22:17 mail_server postfix/lmtp[21514]: 2E9682B6: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], orig_to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=none, delay=15444, delays=15444/0.22/0/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to mail_server.mydomain.com[/tmp/dspam.sock]: No such file or directory) This strikes me as odd since the file /tmp/dspam.sock seems to be there. Anyone has an idea what's going on? Thank you for your time, -Jd
DragonflyBSD creating a new FS
Hi everyone, It seems that DragonflyBSD is going to create a new FS: ( http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/kernel/2007-02/msg00097.html). I know Dragonfly has totally different goals than OpenBSD but I was wondering if this new FS might be useful to OpenBSD. Since I know little about filesystems, I'm basically asking to any developper if this FS would be a good addition to OpenBSD...or the goals are way too different and it wouldn't be very useful. -Jd
malloc guard page question
Hi everyone, Recently I have been going over a bunch of the documents in openbsd.org/papers in order to write an overview of the security features in OpenBSD for school. I have a small question concerning the malloc G option. Theo basically says this in slide: (http://www.openbsd.org/papers/ven05-deraadt/mgp00028.html) - [...SNIP...] malloc.conf 'G' option: [...SNIP...] Cannot enabled by default yet. Maybe never, but we will see. --- This was written in 2005 (2 years ago). I installed 4.0 and read through the man page of malloc, and I didn't find any indication that the G option is enabled by default yet (couldn't find the answer on google either). My question is the following: Is there any plans to enable the guard page feature of malloc ('G' option) in the future? Is so any timetable? Thank you for your time, Jd
Re: malloc guard page question
I was hoping re-re-re-reading Theo's slide would help me understand, but unfortunately it only raised another question to which I can't find an answer: On slide 27 (http://www.openbsd.org/papers/ven05-deraadt/mgp00027.html) it says: If you try to read/write beyond the end of an object, maybe there is a guard page there? So is there a guard page or not? :) If the G option of malloc is used I'm under the impression that every object will be surrounded by guard pages. But if the G option is not used, will there be any guard pages at all? If so how are they allocated? Thanks, -Jd
Anyone tried the Raid solution Accusys ACS-75170?
Hi everyone, I am thinking about buying this raid solution for a small server. Has anyone had experience with this device on OpenBSD? Any comment would be welcome. Also I noticed something that caught my attention... At the address: http://www.accusys.com.tw/eng/products_inneraid_75170_spec.asp Under SPECIFICATIONS == Management === it says: Open API for proprietary GUI and integration. I then went to read the manual ('InneRAID GUI ACSView User Manual v2.3 ') in the SPECIFICATIONS section and there's actually a section on how to setup the web-based gui on Linux (no BSDs...but it's a start). Does this mean these raid solutions could possibly be integrated in the existing OpenBSD framework? Has anyone gotten it's hand on any of these devices and checked out this 'Open API'? -Jd
SVN question
Hi everyone, Firstly, I know my question is a bit off-topic for this list...but I don't exactly trust the subversion mailing list to give me an objective view if subversion is safe or not. Basically I'd like to know what people think about having a svn repository on a web host like dreamhost.com (http://wiki.dreamhost.com/index.php/Svn). Is it safe if using svn+ssh? Or is it just basically a big no-no? Thanks, Jd
Re: Idea for additionnal funding
On 1/20/07, J.C. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 20 January 2007 10:09, Jean-Daniel Beaubien wrote: Feeling unloved? -Don't worry, Theo can flame you when he gets home. I'm sure he will...but damn it I still think it's a good idea... :) A bit of (possibly unwanted and) unsolicited advice; do not suggest setting up a non-profit for OpenBSD. When exactly did I suggest setting up a non-profit for OpenBSD? My suggestion was to have an OpenBSD-Google search page where part of the money generate by the ads are given to OpenBSD/Theo. Nothing more, nothing less. Whatever Theo wishes to do with this is completely up to him. Jd
Idea for additionnal funding
Hello everyone, Recently I wrote an email to Theo about this idea I had to help fund OpenBSD. I never got a reply back, so either he found it very stupid and refrained himself from flaming me (that's probably not it) or something else happened. Anyways the point is I taught (and still think) it's a good idea, so I'd like to know what people on the list think about it. My idea is the following: The mozilla foundation now makes a boat load of money by shipping firefox with a default search page set to google (http://www.google.ca/firefox?client=firefox-arls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official for my installed version). Mozilla simply gets a percentage of the ad money generated by the searches that originate from that page. Since google seem reasonably friendly to OpenBSD (I remember a large donation from google) wouldn't it be possible to have an OpenBSD-google search page where part of the profits generated are given to OpenBSD? The way I see it it's 'free' money for the project in the sense that it doesn't cost the devs OR the users anything. Am I the only one who would use such a page (and force it on every other computer in thehouse :) )? Feel free to flame me if you think it's a ridiculous idea...but I still think it's a damn good idea... Jd
Re: Idea for additionnal funding
What has open and free to do with being tracked by a single evil empire!? :) Being tracked? I don't see how people would be more or else than by using the standard google.com search page. Oh wait, yes now I see the difference...this way OpenBSD would receive money :) Also most OpenBSD (and *BSD for that matter I guess) users either: - don't have a default page at all What a great reason to set one then :) - use google toolbar in the browser, thus using client=toolbar orso Well I don't have an answer to that one...you can't win them all - don't browse on their servers running OpenBSD Eumh...I think your missing my point. I don't think people should be doing this from there server. But I'm pretty sure most people have some kind of desktop computer at work or home, oyu know that computer that the whole family uses? The idea is that alot of people use those google-ads. Why not let OpenBSD have a portion of those revenus instead of giving it all to google? That would allow students with no income (like me) or other people that don't have that much money to contribute a bit. and other forms avoiding the client id to be sent at all Next to that of course, why should one be giving money to somebody else when there was a way to get that in your own pocket? Because there is no money in my pocket? If you want Google to give cash, better simply propose a good project that has value for the community (and for them too) and then do that project. That will catch their attention and will earn you cash... True...but let's be realistic. Google has a boat load of very good/bright people...what are the odds. Greets, Jeroen
Re: Idea for additionnal funding
Feeling unloved? -Don't worry, Theo can flame you when he gets home. I'm sure he will...but damn it I still think it's a good idea... :) If you read this list regularly, you'd know that for the next five to six weeks Theo is out hiking. Expecting Theo (or any FOSS developer) to be available whenever you want them is more than a bit rude. jcr Oh sorry I was unaware that Theo was out hiking. I used to read misc@ regularly, but then I got alot of problem with my university email account. I just recently switched everything over to this account. Jd
Groklaw artical about the BSD license
Groklaw has an article about some misconceptions of the BSD license http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070114093427179 I am curious what people on this list (with the proper knowledge) think about the correctnessof the article. Jd
Friendly registrar
Hi everyone, I'm about to purchase a domain name and I was wondering if there are any registrar out there that are friendly to OpenBSD (donations, contributions, etc...). Thanks, JD
Re: Merchandise idea: OpenBSD mug
I just wanted to say that if your worried about the cost of broken mugs (like bofh mentioned a few post earlier) you could simply sell the 'Travel mugs'. Since they are made of stainless steel, I very much doubt they would break during shipping...Also I find them more practical. You would even have more possibiliy with the travel mugs I think: Normal type mug: http://www.discountmugs.com/steel_stbistro-travel.htm Car/travel type mug: http://www.discountmugs.com/travel-mugs-dm399.htm Vaccuum flask (thermos): http://www.discountmugs.com/vacuum-flask-large-travel.htm Anyways, those are just my 2 cents. Jd P.S. I'd probably be interested to buy some of your product if you followed through with your idea.
Attempting to create sqlports2
Hi everyone, a little while back I wanted to create a web front-end to sqlports. Unfortunately I am not crazy about the database schema of sqlports so I'm trying to make a new script (based alot on mksqlitedb by Marc Espie) to generate a new database. Now I have a few questions concerning flavors/subpackages/all those kinds of things. At the moment I am a bit confused. I haven't looked at ports in awhile, but I was under the impression that there were categories (archivers, astro, audio, etc...) that contained ports, and the ports could have different 'flavors'. When I issue the make dump-vars command in /usr/ports, I realized that there's something I'm not quite understanding. Here are a few examples of what I mean: -- # cd /usr/ports/archivers/gtar/ # make show=FLAVORS static # make dump-vars archivers/gtar.PKGNAME=gtar-1.15.1p4 TRUNCATED A BUNCH OF LINES archivers/gtar.CONFIGURE_ARGS=--program-prefix=g --prefix='/usr/local' --sysconfdir='/etc' --mandir='/usr/local/man' --infodir='/usr/local/info' Now everything is about gtar in here. But if I do make dump-vars in /usr/ports/archivers, I'll get the following: === archivers/gtar archivers/gtar.PKGNAME=gtar-1.15.1p4 TRUNCATED A BUNCH OF LINES archivers/gtar.CONFIGURE_ARGS=--program-prefix=g --prefix='/usr/local' --sysconfdir='/etc' --mandir='/usr/local/man' --infodir='/usr/local/info' === archivers/gtar,static archivers/gtar,static.PKGNAME=gtar-1.15.1p4 TRUNCATED A BUNCH OF LINES archivers/gtar,static.CONFIGURE_ARGS=--program-prefix=g --prefix='/us I get 2 ports. Now the part that really confuses me, is that if I go see the /astro/abcde port, it says it has 1 flavor. But even if I do a make dump-vars in /usr/ports/astro I don't see 2 ports this time, I only see 1. And for those thatwant to me more confused, go look into /usr/ports/audio/festival and do a make dump-vars...you'll get a whole tree of ports. -- Is anyone willing to explain this to me? Thanks, JD
Web interface to sqlports
Hi everyone, I've been waiting for 4.0 to start playing around with your package sqlports. More precisely I've been reading/learning alot about Ruby on Rails lately and I'd like to give a try at making a web interface to search the ports collection through sqlports. For the rest of the email, please keep in mind i've never touch sqlite. I used MySQL and PgSQL alot, but not SQLite. Now I just installed 4.0 and installed sqlports with pkg_add...and well I was hoping for a little post-install message to get me started, but nothing. So I installed sqlite: pkg_add sqlite which installed sqlite-2.8.17p1. Unfortunately still no post-install message to get me started, no man sqlports, man sqlite, man sqlite3... The only thing I noticed is /usr/local/share/sqlports which is a 17MB binary file... So yeah, could you give me a few pointers to at least get the schema/data out of sqlite? At least then I can dump that back in pgsql. Thanks for any help you can give me, JD
Re: Via C7 fully supported?
Sweet Is there any company doing a ready-to-use board with this chip? Something like what soekris does...but with the VIA C7 chip... JD
Re: Sun Niagara supported?
Jason George wrote: I'm just wondering if the Niagara chip (by Sun) is supported on OpenBSD Full and proper support of the Ultrasparc III processor is pretty much an implied requirement first... and we're still working on that... Sorry for my ignorance but why Ultrasparc III? I taught Niagara was based on Ultrasparc II, and there is no talk ofproblems about UltrasparcII on http://www.openbsd.org/sparc64.html. The Niagara chip is comprised of eight four-threaded UltraSparc-II cores, and running at 1.2 GHz Taken from: http://www.itjungle.com/breaking/bn080206-story01.html - 3rd paragraph JD
Re: Sun Niagara supported?
Jason George wrote: On Mon, 23 Oct 2006, Jean-Daniel Beaubien wrote: Jason George wrote: I'm just wondering if the Niagara chip (by Sun) is supported on OpenBSD Full and proper support of the Ultrasparc III processor is pretty much an implied requirement first... and we're still working on that... Sorry for my ignorance but why Ultrasparc III? I taught Niagara was based on Ultrasparc II, and there is no talk ofproblems about UltrasparcII on http://www.openbsd.org/sparc64.html. The Niagara chip is comprised of eight four-threaded UltraSparc-II cores, and running at 1.2 GHz Taken from: http://www.itjungle.com/breaking/bn080206-story01.html - 3rd paragraph The issue that Mark Kettenis is working on has to do with getting the US3 running at full speed. Currently, if you are running on a US3, you aren't running at full speed because the cache is disabled. There are likely fewer than 5 people on the planet running Mark's patches and I'm one of them. Small form-factor US3 machines (1 or 2U) are currently much more interesting to many developers and users, both from a price and availability standpoint. Not everyone wants to run an E450 in their living room. Given that Niagara is multi-core and multi-threaded and we don't have SMP support yet for sparc64, it makes sense to solidify the current sparc64 offering first. That, and I won't mention Theo's thoughts on the virtual machine of sorts that is Niagara... Of course, interested parties with large budgets and desire to see this work happen are more than free to contact me to have a project charter written and a contract signed... --Jason I see I see, thanks for the explanation. I hope I didn't get your hopes up for financing...I am only a poor student finishing his Bachelor's... Jd
Sun Niagara supported?
Hi, I'm just wondering if the Niagara chip (by Sun) is supported on OpenBSD (On-die encryption would make for very sweet vpn firewalls me thinks). I think I read somewhere something about Sun kind of open sourcing the design of the chip, did I dream this? Thanks, JD P.S. WHEN WILL THOSE 4.0 CDs ARRIVE DAMN IT? :) N.B. Yes I did try to find out the answer on my own, but couldn't find any info on the Niagara on http://www.openbsd.org/sparc64.html and http://www.armorlogic.com/openbsd_information_server_compatibility_list.html.
Question about the book Secure architecture with OpenBSD
Hi everyone, I was just about to order the 4.0 CDs and I figured I'd get a book along with it. I was thinking on getting 'Secure architecture with OpenBSD'. My question is since it was written in 2004 is it still up-to-date? Also is there a 2nd edition in the works? Thank you for your time, Jd
Re: avoiding INTEL
I completely agree with Mr. Chehade. Mr. Majid Awad, I do not work for a company that has hundreds of laptop. I only have 1 laptop, but I guarantee you that the next one will not run on Intel. Jean-Daniel Beaubien Gilles Chehade wrote: Mr. Majid Awad, I have recently been provided with a DELL laptop at work which runs Windows and OpenBSD. I have recently bought a VAIO laptop for personal use which runs OpenBSD. These two laptops have a point in common. ALL of the hardware is recognized and works ... except for the Intel wifi chipsets. About four days ago, at an airport, I had written code that I needed to synchronize with the current code base at work. This forced me to keep booting between Windows and my working operating system so that I could actually work and make the changes visible for the people at my company by ... using the network. You can't imagine how irritable one can get when spending time waiting for a couple systems to boot about twenty times within a few hours. This has wasted both me and my company a lot of time and money. And worst of all, this is how we are treated for trusting your company and SPENDING MONEY on its hardware. I just got back from my business trip and first thing I'll do tomorrow is discuss with the decision takers at work so that they contact dell and tell them the Intel based hardware is not working and we need it replaced (oh don't worry that's just about a hundred laptops, it won't affect your sales that much). And for my personal use, this is the last time I buy a laptop or desktop with Intel hardware in it, I have wasted enough time with your integrated graphic chipsets and your integrated wifi chipsets, I can't even recall how many times I got angry at some of your hardware not being working properly (or at all) because you refuse to cooperate with ... your customers. I'd rather spend my money on something that works and keep a smile on my face while working. I am angry and you lost a customer.
Finally got my 3.9 CDs... Congratz to the artists for the artwork
I was beginning to think that us up in Canada had been forgotten, but then yesterday I got my CDs. I just wanted to say thanks for another great release. I have 2 more things to say: 1) for the first time the little pins holding the CDs were all intact on delivery...WOOT 2) the artwork is REALLY nice I find (the CD covers case cover), and the song is pretty cool too. Congratz to whoever did those. Jean-Daniel
Anyone tried this hardware raid solution?
Hi everyone, I am wondering if anyone tried this (http://www.allmediait.com/html/araid.html) hardware raid solution. It seems to only support PATA. Anyways I was just wondering if anyone had any experiences with this box. Anyone ever compared it to an Accusys 7500? On a side note, anyone knows hardware raid solution similar to this or to Accusys's 7500 solution but SATA? Jd http://www.allmediait.com/html/araid.html
DBMail on openBSD
Hi everyone, I'd like to get an idea of the status of DBMail on openBSD. If anyone has had some experience with DBMail on obsd please let me know what you think about it. Is it stable? How is the speed? How's the initial setup? I know I there's a dbmail mailing list...but I wanted a non-partisan opinion. Thanks, Jean-Daniel P.S. Anyone has an approx ETA until we can pre-order 3.8 cds?
OpenBSD stickers would be awesome
Hi everyone, I just assembled a new pc for my friend and seeing all the little stickers (to stick in front of the case) that come in the various cpu/mobo/etc... boxes, I started to wonder HOW COME I DON'T HAVE A WIREFRAME PUFFY STICKER ON MY CASES? I think it would be awesome to have wireframe puffy garding my cases. (even better if we can get them in 3d, i think it's called embossed?; sorry english not my main language and I can't find the right word for this). Anyways just a taught, but I would definitely buy a few of those :) Jd