Re: Architeture Choose
On 11/10/2010 12:39 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 10:45:15 -0500 Joe McDonagh wrote: On 11/10/2010 09:09 AM, Diana Eichert wrote: I just saw the v20z 4.8 dmesg on ajacoutot@ webpage and noticed he was running i386 instead of 64-bit. Curious if that is just a preference on his part or an issue with running 64-bit O/S on the box. g.day diana I've had a lot of problems with the amd64 kernel, mostly on HP DL3xx systems. Very difficult to track down and 100% remediable by moving to i386. It's a shame considering it's a more secure cpu stack, but that's just life. Is there certain hardware that it works flawlessly and as well as i386 on? No clue, however in talks with several developers I was told the hard locks I was experiencing aren't exactly 'rare', and have gotten worse over time. -- Joe McDonagh AIM: YoosingYoonickz IRC: joe-mac on freenode "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
Re: Architeture Choose
On 11/10/2010 09:09 AM, Diana Eichert wrote: I just saw the v20z 4.8 dmesg on ajacoutot@ webpage and noticed he was running i386 instead of 64-bit. Curious if that is just a preference on his part or an issue with running 64-bit O/S on the box. g.day diana I've had a lot of problems with the amd64 kernel, mostly on HP DL3xx systems. Very difficult to track down and 100% remediable by moving to i386. -- Joe McDonagh AIM: YoosingYoonickz IRC: joe-mac on freenode "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
Re: OpenBSD 4.8 can't find CD drive on Dell Latitude E6500
On my e4300 I had to mess with the ATA operation mode to get it to even boot the cd... On 11/09/2010 10:37 AM, Leslie Jensen wrote: Hello list. I'm quite new to OpenBSD, have made one installation in Virtualbox plus an installation on a USB stick on a 32-bit pc. Now I want to make an installation on a USB stick using the amd64 installation CD. The machine Dell Latitude E6500 is currently running Win7 plus FreeBSD 8.1 in a dual boot configuration. I removed the hard drive not to make a mistake, inserted the CD and the USB stick. Installation starts, when asked how to install on the stick I those use the whole (w) drive. Then comes the question of installation media and the choices are ftp http or done. I can do the installation via http so I'm ok. But I am wondering how do I do in order to find the CD-rom drive. My plan is to install OpenBSD on this machine in the future. Thanks /Leslie -- Joe McDonagh AIM: YoosingYoonickz IRC: joe-mac on freenode "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
Re: Architeture Choose
On 11/08/2010 12:44 PM, Christopher Dukes wrote: On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 14:30 -0400, Joe McDonagh wrote: "If your Sun fails"<-- that's a big IF. It's approaching a possibility of 0 in my experience. If performance isn't an issue and stability is your chief goal, none of this hardware is as stable as a Sun. Not quite my experience. In 2001 I worked at a place with a lot of used Sun hardware courtesy of Fujitsu layoffs (Sparc 20s, Ultra 5s). Entirely too many fried ethernet ports on the sparc 20s. And it took too many iterations to find a sparc 20 that wouldn't crash and burn while building OpenBSD from source. A fidgety developer kicking an ultra 5 from a | orientation to a _ orientation would reliably destroy the power supply and harddrives. On the bright side, I could repair the ultra 5s with power supply and drives scavenged from eMachines with ALI motherboards with the wonderful DMA that shoved garbage into memory for every OS we tried on them. I thought the Micro Channel based RS/6Ks (Before the horrid SMP ones designed by Group Bull) were a bit more bullet proof, with the only dead hardware I'd experience being. 1) Rats pissing on the system boards, because the customer refused to keep the covers on their systems in manufacturing. 2) A ladybird beetle invasion. The RT PC was pretty reliable too. I had one manufactured in 1987 that was still trundling along in 2006 when I gave it away. To be fair, the ultra 5 was sort of an attempt to cut corners and produce 'cheaper' workstations. They also OEM'd their boards at that point (my first Sun was an Ultra 5 board in some kind of no-name chassis). The next iteration, the Blade 100, had a fair amount of problems but generally, you get what you pay for. I'm talking more about their servers in terms of reliability. -- Joe McDonagh AIM: YoosingYoonickz IRC: joe-mac on freenode "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
Re: relayd port to linux
Move your puppet to apache+passenger instead of starting serveral mongrel instances. It is much simpler to manage. Claer I guess that depends on your definition of simple; I've done this setup but there are version incompatibilities that make it a PITA. I would definitely like to move to it, but it just seems too finicky. -- Joe McDonagh Operations Engineer AIM: YoosingYoonickz IRC: joe-mac on freenode "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
Re: relayd port to linux
On 11/05/2010 05:31 PM, Aleksandar Lazic wrote: On Fre 05.11.2010 10:45, Theo de Raadt wrote: due to the fact that openssh and some other parts of openbsd are ported to linux maybe you can tell me if you plan to make a openrelayd which is able to compile on linux. relayd depends deeply on pf. so the answer is no. ok, sorry for rush. Do you know a good replacement for stunnel with http-header rewrite on non openbsd OS?! Well, besides Marco being right about the best Unix system for networking out there (OpenBSD, keep in mind I manage a lot of reenucksh systems too), I would check out nginx or mod_proxy_balancer. I am big into puppet (uses ssl for communication), and I load balance with mod_proxy_balancer, and I know a lot of people who use nginx (but not me). -- -- Joe McDonagh Operations Engineer AIM: YoosingYoonickz IRC: joe-mac on freenode "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
Re: Architeture Choose
"If your Sun fails" <-- that's a big IF. It's approaching a possibility of 0 in my experience. If performance isn't an issue and stability is your chief goal, none of this hardware is as stable as a Sun. On 11/05/2010 01:14 PM, Nick Holland wrote: On 11/05/10 08:46, Felipe Mesquita de Oliveira wrote: Hi All, I'm long time far from OpenBSD world, but planning to come back. The plan is to buy an old machine, but, maybe try an new platform, if the investment worths... I have these options, all in the same price range: A) Sun Fire V100 UltraSPARC IIi 650 Mhz - 2x160Gb Hd - 2Gb RAM - CDROM -> US$ 350 B) Apple Power PC G4 733 Mhz - 768 Gb RAM - 38Gb HD -> US$ 320,00 C) Atlhon 64 X2 +5200, 2 GB RAM, 160Gb HD -> US$ 320,00 The idea is to build an server with: WWW/Email/Firewall funcionalities, with better stablity as possible. I don't think that I will need to upgrade for an period, but pieces that have mechanical components (Hd, cooler) may be a problem, if they are platform-exclusive... Thanks for any help, and sorry for any mistake in my English.. Best Regards, Felipe SP-Brazil well... Given that choice, I'd go for the Athlon if you need performance (you probably won't), or the Sun Fire v100 if you want to learn something new. I'm not fond of MacPPC machines for the very reason many people love them: the style. The cute cases are a pain in the butt to deal with -- I use a lot of wire rack shelving units, I actually have to velcro-tie the tower macppc systems to the rack to keep the bottom handle from slipping over the front of the shelf and ending up on the floor. The prices on all of them seem high to me, at least in my market. That doesn't mean much. :) One thing to consider is what happens if the box itself fails. OpenBSD is great about moving disks to new hardware in the same platform, but if your Sun fails, you need a compatible sun, if your MacPPC fails, you need another macppc, if your amd64 fails, you need another amd64 (or i386, if you have installed OpenBSD/i386). So, if you run on a macppc or sun system, in the event of failure, you will need to put your hands on a similar machine quickly. The 160G disks in the Sun Fire v100 might hurt you in that regard -- a lot of the Sun IDE disk systems are hw limited to 128G, so you won't be able to stick your 160G disks in an Ultra5, Ultra10, or a Blade100 should your v100 fail. If you go with this machine, I'd put smaller disks in it in case you have to fall back to a U5/U10. If you have to do a cross-platform move, it will require restoring data from your backup, you can't (in general) mount disks from one platform in another and read the data. Nick. -- Joe McDonagh AIM: YoosingYoonickz IRC: joe-mac on freenode "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
Re: relayd port to linux
I can only imagine Reyk's face if he saw this. On 11/05/2010 11:54 AM, Aleksandar Lazic wrote: Dear Listmember, due to the fact that openssh and some other parts of openbsd are ported to linux maybe you can tell me if you plan to make a openrelayd which is able to compile on linux. I'am willing to try it by my self, maybe you can help me to miss the most common pitfalls ;-). thanks Aleks -- Joe McDonagh AIM: YoosingYoonickz IRC: joe-mac on freenode "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."