Re: OpenBSD forked
Who is J.R. Steven?
Re: OpenBSD forked
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Otto Moerbeek o...@drijf.net wrote: On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 04:02:51PM +0200, Mic J wrote: Who is J.R. Steven? I think Marc intended to mention W. Richard Stevens. See http://www.kohala.com -Otto That what i thought, no JR stevens came up in my search. (+network +perl) Closest one was, Freak economy, and the 7 habits of highly (D)Effective people. :)
Re: Snappy Answers to Stupid Questions - WTF?
Dear Fredrik Staxeng. Im sorry to hear you had a bad experience when communicating with our team. Could you please specify your exact problem, What was the question you got a snappy answer about And what was it Linus was right about. WE at OpenBSD.org works hard to provide a great customer and user experience. I assure you that we have pointed out to staff members that they have to provide precise and courteous answers to customers. Also the internal guidelines for customer communications have ben strengthened, To ensure these incidents shouldnt happen in the future. Being an opensource project is challenging to ensure conforming answers, but we have implemented a proxy where by all team members mail are forwarded and screened for accuracy and content and discussed internally before reaching the customer. Yours sincerely Chief head of OpenBSD communication department. (i did fix a typo in documentation once) On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Fredrik Staxeng fst...@update.uu.se wrote: Do you want users at all? Or was Linus right? -- Fredrik Stax\ang | rot13: s...@hcqngr.hh.fr This is all you need to know about vi: ESC : q ! RET
Re: Ted Unangst Static Source Code Analysis
Coverity also i think i remember one of the OpenBSD developers worked/works for coverity There is open source projects scanning. Also look in the archives there are several interesting threads try f.ex using coverity in your search. there is a list of tools on wikipedia !!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tools_for_static_code_analysis On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Stuart Henderson s...@spacehopper.org wrote: On 2012-01-08, Lars nore...@z505.com wrote: What tools are used in OpenBSD for static source code analysis? I guess Lint is considered one tool? Various people have used various tools at various times to look at OpenBSD source code. Besides lint, examples include: clang's static analyser, cppcheck, parfait (and I'm sure there are others which have been run over at least parts of the codebase).
Re: Forum engine
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Jesus Sanchez zexe...@gmail.com wrote: Samuel Baldwin escribiC3: I've heard good things about FluxBB and PunBB, but really you should consider using a mailing list instead of a server. +1, mail list with archive it's always better than a forum. Why is that better?
Re: Defending OpenBSD Performance
So since benchmarking is out, how do we then find out where potential problems are. What does OpenBSD developers do, since surely they don't benchmark :) Maybe we should profile instead ? I'm not very experienced with webservers, but here how i would approach it. 1. i have a problem, i think about it where/what the problem could be 2 i check the logs - test my equipment 3. I create 1 or a few profiling tests / micro benchmarks to test my assumptions or make certain i haven't misinterpreted my problems. 4. Step back and interpret results 5. think of other tests / micro benchmarks that could further enlighten me and confirm/unconfirm(?) my findings What i wouldnt do, is design a mother of a benchmark that covers all the bases. It's to hard to get right. It would take to much time. How would OpenBSD dev's approach a issue. How are issues generally searched for/ found out? I imagine something like OpenBSD dev works on the httpd daemon - asks for testing. I find a problem, ex: it'd slow like heck - check configuration - interfaces - logs What now - i write back to dev. dev asks me to do what? What does the dev do behind the scenes? regards mic
Re: Where can I find the cksum source code?
There was a great post not so long time ago, Where som other code couldnt be found. Someone showed how to search the tree inside the makefiles. Because the name of an executable etc, might not be listed in the src files. but be specified in the makefile, ie some executables with more than 1 name and so on. I think it was tip / cu maybe that went missing ? Mic On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Jonathan Grayj...@goblin.cx wrote: sure it is, look at the contents of /usr/src/bin/md5 On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 08:17:47AM -0300, Jo?o Salvatti wrote: Hi Misc, Where can I find the cksum source code? Not in the base system. Thanks in advanced.
Re: About the OpenBSD repository
I was reading about version control systems and i found a lot of the distributed software with best performance, but really i don't know much about it. There are some technicals or philosophicals reasons why the OpenBSD repository does not change to something other than CVS? Discussed much in archives, try also to search for opencvs, and i think you will hit some information of why cvs. (i think!) You seem to make the assumption that _everything_ else is better than CVS. This may be your opinion, but that's all it is. I can't see any assumption of that? Well, I suppose it is better than RCS or SCCS, and in some small ways, CVS even did things right that SVN gets wrong (namely, tags). But to imply that CVS is better than (or equal to) Mercurial or Git is a bit ridiculous :) Flamer! :) http://www.openbsd.org/why-cvs.html Because none of the above mentioned will allow for 70+ developers to update ~1.2GB/~140,000 files of source code, allow anonymous checkouts, has an available web based interface and interfaces with ssh. Instead though non atomic commits, expensive branches and almost 20 years of work arounds are utilized. SVN can definitely do this, lost of large project are using it. Ealier posts mentions distributed systems like Mercurial, and GIT. They can definitely also do it. it has webbased frontend, anonymous checkouts. interfaces with ssh, what do you mean, SVN does that. Most systems can send commands via ssh. so that should be no reason to not choose it. Or is there some specific detail I am missing? Mercurial is used by netbeans team, opensolaris, xen. Mozilla? Im sure that is quite large codebases. Git is used by linux kernel devs, and that has a ridiclous amount of code. Comparable to the openbsd source tree. I have used CVS, SVN, SVK(svn with repository mirroed locally), git, mercurial sourcesafe. RCS (still use it, sometimes together with one of the other SCM systems) I use mercurial right now for my own projects, having the repository locally makes it much easier when travelling etc(offline situations), i think. Could as well be Git. (i assumed you were on the look out for something to use yourself?) mic
Re: List of old forked or frozen code like apache that needs cleanup?
Discussed many times. :) check archives for many interesting repsonses. But some of the developers has some work wishlist of what the want to do have done. Or some used to have. Otherwise their is lots of ports, that could be interesting, if it doesnt have to be base system work (wine might include both). Also i would like wireshark ;) but thats a contreversial subject. If its base systems check the netbsd wishlist, http://www.netbsd.org/contrib/projects.html And see if some of it applies to OpenBSD. Personally i'm working on a editor that could supplant the obsolete vi/vim/nvi. editor, I'm modelling it after this notepad thing... Mic
Re: OpenBSD install question
what about making an NFS export, then the underlying file system wouldnt matter? What about using sshfs? mic
Re: Low power OpenBSD machine
What about the Intel Atom, there is a version targeted for kind of embedded systems. Think its called z5xx or something. Its a x86, so i suppose its well supported? i'm buying 1 soonish, board, with no fan, 2GB ram , and a case. Adding a semi old harddisk 2.5 from my own drawers. Total is about 200 Euros. Or is it to fast for you ? :) I think it use about 30 W because of a chipset that uses quite a lot of power. Something about a chip set that uses much more power than the cpu (about 22 W) But there is a chipset with lower wattage, but you have too look for it. Check out this wikipedia article, see power requirements http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silverthorne_(CPU) And then there is offcourse the core duo bugs?, to think about, isnt there? mic
Re: assembly for x86
http://www.drpaulcarter.com/pcasm/ Gratis book. Uses nasm as assembler. and you can use yasm (BSD license) if you want. Mic
Re: Newbie some problem with OpenBSD
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Josh Grosse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:27:25 -0400, Josh Grosse neglected to check for typos: I'd written: ...Every -release cycle, I see people their pre-ordered - release systems into production prior to release by the Project. I meant to type: Every -release cycle, I see people put their pre-ordered -release systems into production prior to -release date, then run into support problems with the Project. Where do you see this, i newer heard of that to be a big problem. There is offcourse the usual nagging of packages not being available instanly. mic
Re: Why Perl for pkg_* tools ?
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 9:35 PM, Christer Solskogen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hyjial wrote: What technical reasons have lead the developers to elect this language ? Her is an interview with Espie It contains many hints to research from I also thought Espie said that perl enabled them to do some stuff that other tools wouldnt and accompplish it faster, i actually thought it was this interview but couldnt find it with a quick glance. http://mongers.org/openbsd/interview-espie-ports
Re: removing a list of users
#!/bin/sh - or #!/bin/ksh - But are there any places in the man page i can find this? something about it, maybe, at ~26% in man sh(in the section: Search and Execution). regards cognacc
Re: Segmentation fault in sh script using base utilities only
well for completeness stdout wasnt changed either. but as you said, the script is in progress. michael
Re: Free Linux Driver Development!
On 2/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How long have you people been reading these lists? When are people going to realize that Han is just a troll. I've been here since 2004 and i never noticed! However i noticed that Han is sometimes bearer of apparently unpopular opinions So you think he is subscribed just to troll? cognacc
