Re: /stand still useful?

2006-10-19 Thread Martin Schröder

2006/10/19, Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

So getting back on topic, what is /stand for then? It's a tricky thing
to google for, but the hints I've seen make it sound as just a
secondary /bin. Is that about right?


That's what the man page suggests. But when is it actually used? A
typical installation just leaves it empty.

Best
  Martin

PS: How do you google for it?



Re: /stand still useful?

2006-10-19 Thread Dustin Lundquist
Martin Schrvder wrote:
 2006/10/19, Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 So getting back on topic, what is /stand for then? It's a tricky thing
 to google for, but the hints I've seen make it sound as just a
 secondary /bin. Is that about right?
 
 That's what the man page suggests. But when is it actually used? A
 typical installation just leaves it empty.

I know that IRIX uses it for static binaries like sash and other
programs that can be run for directly from the prom before booting the
kernel.


Dustin Lundquist



Re: /stand still useful?

2006-10-19 Thread Martin Schröder

2006/10/19, Dustin Lundquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

I know that IRIX uses it for static binaries like sash and other
programs that can be run for directly from the prom before booting the
kernel.


But this is OpenBSD, not IRIX.

Best
  Martin



/stand still useful?

2006-10-18 Thread Martin Schröder

hier(7) says:
/stand/Programs used in a stand-alone environment.

It's empty here (3.9). Has it any use, i.e. when is it non-empty?

Best
  Martin



Re: /stand still useful?

2006-10-18 Thread Rod.. Whitworth
On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:50:41 +0200, Martin Schrvder wrote:

hier(7) says:
/stand/Programs used in a stand-alone environment.

It's empty here (3.9). Has it any use, i.e. when is it non-empty?

man 7 hier

From the land down under: Australia.
Do we look umop apisdn from up over?

Do NOT CC me - I am subscribed to the list.
Replies to the sender address will fail except from the list-server.
Your IP address will also be greytrapped for 24 hours after any attempt. 
I am continually amazed by the people who run OpenBSD who don't take this 
advice. I always expected a smarter class. I guess not.



Re: /stand still useful?

2006-10-18 Thread Adam
Rod.. Whitworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:50:41 +0200, Martin Schrvder wrote:
 
 hier(7) says:
 /stand/Programs used in a stand-alone environment.
 
 It's empty here (3.9). Has it any use, i.e. when is it non-empty?
 
 man 7 hier

Its generally a good idea to read something before you reply to it.

 Do NOT CC me - I am subscribed to the list.
 Replies to the sender address will fail except from the list-server.
 Your IP address will also be greytrapped for 24 hours after any attempt. 
 I am continually amazed by the people who run OpenBSD who don't take this 
 advice. I always expected a smarter class. I guess not.

I am continually amazed by the people who can't grasp the complexities of
subscribing to a mailing list.  If you don't want duplicate emails from the
list, then configure your procmail or whatever to discard duplicate emails.
Putting stupid demands on the end of your email isn't going to change how
mailing lists work.  Why do you think you deserve special effort from
everyone else when you could solve your problem yourself?

Adam



Re: /stand still useful?

2006-10-18 Thread Nick Guenther

On 10/18/06, Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Rod.. Whitworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:50:41 +0200, Martin Schrvder wrote:

 hier(7) says:
 /stand/Programs used in a stand-alone environment.
 
 It's empty here (3.9). Has it any use, i.e. when is it non-empty?

 man 7 hier

Its generally a good idea to read something before you reply to it.

 Do NOT CC me - I am subscribed to the list. [rants...]

I am continually amazed [blah blah]



So getting back on topic, what is /stand for then? It's a tricky thing
to google for, but the hints I've seen make it sound as just a
secondary /bin. Is that about right?

-Nick



Re: /stand still useful?

2006-10-18 Thread jared r r spiegel
On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 10:15:21PM +1000, Rod.. Whitworth wrote:
 On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 13:50:41 +0200, Martin Schrvder wrote:
 hier(7) says:
 man 7 hier

  oops.

 Do we look umop apisdn from up over?

  i don't know if you look like a mop that had been pissed in.

 Do NOT CC me - I am subscribed to the list.
 Your IP address will also be greytrapped for 24 hours after any attempt. 
 I am continually amazed by the people who run OpenBSD who don't take this 
 advice. I always expected a smarter class. I guess not.

  i'm continually amazed that you have an outright expectation for people
  to comply with that poppycock.

  s/take this advice/honour this demand/

  if you s/^Do NOT/Please do not/ then it's a request.

  it is however not advice.  people aren't trying to solve the issue
  of how to most effectively email rod dot dot whitworth, they're hitting
  'reply' in their MUA however their habits fancy satisfying their intent.

 Replies to the sender address will fail except from the list-server.

  irksome that if this is true, the only way for me to solicit your
  attention to my email is to send to the list, assuming the abuse
  contact addr is also something that won't end up meeting your eyes.

  let me know a real email addr for you and we can bitch at each
  other to our hearts' content; outside of the CC nonsense seems like
  the list does pretty well to have you about.

  ...
 
  anyway, nick, re: google, if you didn't know about the code search
  thing yet, it might yield at list a little more geneology:

http://www.google.com/codesearch?q=+/stand/start=20sa=N

  most things seem to hit on '/stand/sysinstall' or '/stand/vmunix'.

  found a few things in archives -- almost looks like it's been
  used more similar to /boot than /bin

-- 

  jared