Re: 50Gbe

2021-08-11 Thread Brad Smith

Only bnxt and mcx support 50. Intel chips that do are 800 series, beyond ixl.

On August 11, 2021 5:13:11 p.m. Chris Cappuccio  wrote:


ha...@sdf.org [ha...@sdf.org] wrote:

> Hi folks!
>
> I wonder if OBSD supports 50Gbe network cards. And what is the cable
> standard to support such data transfers ?
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> The lion and the tiger may be more powerful, but the wolves do not perform
> in the circus

$ apropos 50gb
bnxt(4) - Broadcom NetXtreme-C/E 10/25/40/50Gb Ethernet device

https://man.openbsd.org/bnxt.4


mcx and ixl cards are the most likely 10/25/40/50/100 GbE chips to be well 
supported, bnxt doesn't even support per-CPU queues yet



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Re: 50Gbe

2021-08-11 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Brad Smith [b...@comstyle.com] wrote:
> Only bnxt and mcx support 50. Intel chips that do are 800 series, beyond ixl.
> 

Oh and bnxt does support multiple queues I was wrong in that last email.



Re: 50Gbe

2021-08-11 Thread Chris Cappuccio
ha...@sdf.org [ha...@sdf.org] wrote:
> > Hi folks!
> >
> > I wonder if OBSD supports 50Gbe network cards. And what is the cable
> > standard to support such data transfers ?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > --
> > The lion and the tiger may be more powerful, but the wolves do not perform
> > in the circus
> 
> $ apropos 50gb
> bnxt(4) - Broadcom NetXtreme-C/E 10/25/40/50Gb Ethernet device
> 
> https://man.openbsd.org/bnxt.4

mcx and ixl cards are the most likely 10/25/40/50/100 GbE chips to be well 
supported, bnxt doesn't even support per-CPU queues yet



Re: 50Gbe

2021-08-06 Thread Joel Wirāmu Pauling
Also SFP28 ports are backwards compatible with SFP+ optics.

On Fri, Aug 6, 2021 at 9:12 PM Joel Wirāmu Pauling 
wrote:

> SFP28  (25gbit) is the way to go for density on x86 as it matches CPU
> bound bus architecture well. QSFP28 to 4*SFP28 offers the best price per
> port density both for interconnects (the DAC TwinAX 'squid' cables are
> cheap as chips)
>
> Network Stack Throughput through CPU on modern Intel x86 _64 even on perf
> tuned OS's tops out around 40Gbit locally so 50gbit ports don't make a lot
> of sence bar for specific use cases. Going faster means SmartNIC offloads,
> which are fine for certain use cases or if you just want to push packets
> without doing anything with them (i.e NIC to NVME etc, or switching).
>
> On Fri, Aug 6, 2021 at 7:33 PM Stuart Henderson 
> wrote:
>
>> On 2021-08-06, ha...@sdf.org  wrote:
>> >> Hi folks!
>> >>
>> >> I wonder if OBSD supports 50Gbe network cards. And what is the cable
>> >> standard to support such data transfers ?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> The lion and the tiger may be more powerful, but the wolves do not
>> perform
>> >> in the circus
>> >
>> > $ apropos 50gb
>> > bnxt(4) - Broadcom NetXtreme-C/E 10/25/40/50Gb Ethernet device
>> >
>> > https://man.openbsd.org/bnxt.4
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Cable is usually single-mode fibre (duplex or simplex depending on which
>> QSFP28 you use) or twinax DACs. There might also be some using multimode
>> MTP cables but if there are, they're less common.
>>
>> Don't expect to get anywhere close to line rate with OpenBSD.
>>
>>
>>


Re: 50Gbe

2021-08-06 Thread Joel Wirāmu Pauling
SFP28  (25gbit) is the way to go for density on x86 as it matches CPU bound
bus architecture well. QSFP28 to 4*SFP28 offers the best price per port
density both for interconnects (the DAC TwinAX 'squid' cables are cheap as
chips)

Network Stack Throughput through CPU on modern Intel x86 _64 even on perf
tuned OS's tops out around 40Gbit locally so 50gbit ports don't make a lot
of sence bar for specific use cases. Going faster means SmartNIC offloads,
which are fine for certain use cases or if you just want to push packets
without doing anything with them (i.e NIC to NVME etc, or switching).

On Fri, Aug 6, 2021 at 7:33 PM Stuart Henderson  wrote:

> On 2021-08-06, ha...@sdf.org  wrote:
> >> Hi folks!
> >>
> >> I wonder if OBSD supports 50Gbe network cards. And what is the cable
> >> standard to support such data transfers ?
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> --
> >> The lion and the tiger may be more powerful, but the wolves do not
> perform
> >> in the circus
> >
> > $ apropos 50gb
> > bnxt(4) - Broadcom NetXtreme-C/E 10/25/40/50Gb Ethernet device
> >
> > https://man.openbsd.org/bnxt.4
> >
> >
>
> Cable is usually single-mode fibre (duplex or simplex depending on which
> QSFP28 you use) or twinax DACs. There might also be some using multimode
> MTP cables but if there are, they're less common.
>
> Don't expect to get anywhere close to line rate with OpenBSD.
>
>
>


Re: 50Gbe

2021-08-06 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2021-08-06, ha...@sdf.org  wrote:
>> Hi folks!
>>
>> I wonder if OBSD supports 50Gbe network cards. And what is the cable
>> standard to support such data transfers ?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> --
>> The lion and the tiger may be more powerful, but the wolves do not perform
>> in the circus
>
> $ apropos 50gb
> bnxt(4) - Broadcom NetXtreme-C/E 10/25/40/50Gb Ethernet device
>
> https://man.openbsd.org/bnxt.4
>
>

Cable is usually single-mode fibre (duplex or simplex depending on which
QSFP28 you use) or twinax DACs. There might also be some using multimode
MTP cables but if there are, they're less common.

Don't expect to get anywhere close to line rate with OpenBSD.




Re: 50Gbe

2021-08-05 Thread hagen
> Hi folks!
>
> I wonder if OBSD supports 50Gbe network cards. And what is the cable
> standard to support such data transfers ?
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> The lion and the tiger may be more powerful, but the wolves do not perform
> in the circus

$ apropos 50gb
bnxt(4) - Broadcom NetXtreme-C/E 10/25/40/50Gb Ethernet device

https://man.openbsd.org/bnxt.4



50Gbe

2021-08-05 Thread Gustavo Rios
Hi folks!

I wonder if OBSD supports 50Gbe network cards. And what is the cable
standard to support such data transfers ?

Thanks.

-- 
The lion and the tiger may be more powerful, but the wolves do not perform
in the circus