Re: A great article ( found on the OpenBSD site)

2005-11-02 Thread Darrin Chandler

Spruell, Darren-Perot wrote:



Don't forget the "rest of the story":

http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20051024113247&pid=27&mode=ex
panded

DS

 

Right on. I blogged this a week or so ago 
(http://www.stilyagin.com/darrin/blog/2005/10/25/1310/). Damn 
sensationalist media types.


--
Darrin Chandler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.stilyagin.com/



Re: A great article ( found on the OpenBSD site)

2005-11-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Put OpenBSD anywhere you can and play with it.  It will prove itself even
> in the Trashiest Windows Infested American Enterprise.

Yea, they be see-through brothels.

Windows will now close your curtains.



Re: A great article ( found on the OpenBSD site)

2005-11-01 Thread Jason Houx
An American Speaks here:

I work for a ISP *Routing/Switching/MPLS/Multicast/SS7/IP Video/VoIP*

I managed to get my eye balls on OpenBSD about 5 years ago now.  After
spending about 8 months using Frankenstein hardware I finally got my Boss
to let me start using OpenBSD firewalls in the network.  Now we have a
embedded system running on CF making the company all kinds of money.  I
also am using bgpd as a route reflector and testing ospfd in my lab of
Cisco gear.  I'm really looking forward to also seeing a PIM DM/SM capable
router in the future running OpenBSD  ;-)

Put OpenBSD anywhere you can and play with it.  It will prove itself even
in the Trashiest Windows Infested American Enterprise.

Jason Houx

--  Mirco$oft Gives you Windows || Unix Gives you a Home --


> Ah, an American speaks.
>
>> Sounds like a bold and daring idea, but one should be aware that
>> they might find themselves unemployed if they practice such a
>> philosophy at most companies.
>>
>>
>> PG
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > > quote:
>> > > "My experience is that if something has to be done, just do it -
>> don't
>> > > ask! They will thank you later," he said.
>> >
>> > Yeah, an interesting quote, all right. It's obvious that his corporate
>> > culture is very different from the one where i work. I did exactly
>> that
>> > for a few years (not exclusively with OpenBSD, but with a mixture of
>> > what i consider good operating systems). I saved the company money and
>> > set up a stable, secure infrastructure. They found out and told me to
>> > replace all of it with new hardware and a single "standardized"
>> > operating system. They'll thank You later? Not a chance.
>> >
>> >-&



Re: A great article ( found on the OpenBSD site)

2005-11-01 Thread Siju George
On 11/2/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sounds like a bold and daring idea, but one should be aware that they might 
> find >themselves unemployed if they practice such a philosophy at most 
> companies.
>

maybe, but sometimes its better that way. You could find a more
sensible employer who would allow you to do the right things the right
way when it obviously benefits the company :-)

kind regards

Siju



Re: A great article ( found on the OpenBSD site)

2005-11-01 Thread Theo de Raadt
Ah, an American speaks.

> Sounds like a bold and daring idea, but one should be aware that
> they might find themselves unemployed if they practice such a
> philosophy at most companies.
>
> 
> PG
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > > quote:
> > > "My experience is that if something has to be done, just do it - don't
> > > ask! They will thank you later," he said.
> > 
> > Yeah, an interesting quote, all right. It's obvious that his corporate
> > culture is very different from the one where i work. I did exactly that
> > for a few years (not exclusively with OpenBSD, but with a mixture of
> > what i consider good operating systems). I saved the company money and
> > set up a stable, secure infrastructure. They found out and told me to
> > replace all of it with new hardware and a single "standardized"
> > operating system. They'll thank You later? Not a chance.
> > 
> > -&



Re: A great article ( found on the OpenBSD site)

2005-11-01 Thread pauljgreene
Sounds like a bold and daring idea, but one should be aware that they might 
find themselves unemployed if they practice such a philosophy at most companies.

PG



> 
> > quote:
> > "My experience is that if something has to be done, just do it - don't
> > ask! They will thank you later," he said.
> 
> Yeah, an interesting quote, all right. It's obvious that his corporate
> culture is very different from the one where i work. I did exactly that
> for a few years (not exclusively with OpenBSD, but with a mixture of
> what i consider good operating systems). I saved the company money and
> set up a stable, secure infrastructure. They found out and told me to
> replace all of it with new hardware and a single "standardized"
> operating system. They'll thank You later? Not a chance.
> 
>   -&



Re: A great article ( found on the OpenBSD site)

2005-11-01 Thread Greg Thomas
On 11/1/05, Spruell, Darren-Perot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Don't forget the "rest of the story":
>
>
>
http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20051024113247&pid=27&mode=ex
> panded



Awesome. Thanks for pointing us to the follow up. Working in a similar
environment to Mark I kind of assumed many of the things he clarified.

Greg



Re: A great article ( found on the OpenBSD site)

2005-11-01 Thread Ste Jones
another article worth a mention???

Hard-as-nails OpenBSD releases v3.8
http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=680



Re: A great article ( found on the OpenBSD site)

2005-11-01 Thread Spruell, Darren-Perot
From: Greg Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On 11/1/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Greg Thomas wrote:
> >
> > > On 11/1/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Bob DeBolt wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Greets
> > >>>
> > >>> I certainly found it worth a read.
> > >>>
> > >>> 
> http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1375194866;fp;16;fpid;0
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Bob D
> > >>
> > >> This was already posted a week or two ago.
> > >
> > > On Slashdot and other places but as far as I can see Bob 
> was the first
> > to
> > > post it on misc.
> > > Greg
> >
> > My bad. I saw it on openbsd-newbies. Sorry about that Bob.
> 
>  Anyway, it's a damn cool article. I keep slipping OpenBSD in 
> at work but I
> haven't had a chance to initiate a sea change. We've got 
> several firewall
> projects at work where OpenBSD and CARP would save us big 
> bucks but our
> networking department is just too close-minded.

Don't forget the "rest of the story":

http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20051024113247&pid=27&mode=ex
panded

DS



Re: A great article ( found on the OpenBSD site)

2005-11-01 Thread Stuart Henderson

--On 01 November 2005 13:18 -0500, marrandy wrote:


http://www.openbsd-support.com/jp/en/htm/mgp/tokyopc05/mgp5.html


looks like an le-564.



Re: A great article ( found on the OpenBSD site)

2005-11-01 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 08:57:56 -0700
Bob DeBolt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Greets
> 
> I certainly found it worth a read.
> 
> http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1375194866;fp;16;fpid;0
> 
> 
> Bob D
How about the first entry on this page: http://openbsd.org/press.html ;-)

Jasper
 


-- 
"Security is decided by quality" -- Theo de Raadt



Re: A great article ( found on the OpenBSD site)

2005-11-01 Thread Andrew Rucker Jones
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> quote:
> "My experience is that if something has to be done, just do it - don't
> ask! They will thank you later," he said.

Yeah, an interesting quote, all right. It's obvious that his corporate
culture is very different from the one where i work. I did exactly that
for a few years (not exclusively with OpenBSD, but with a mixture of
what i consider good operating systems). I saved the company money and
set up a stable, secure infrastructure. They found out and told me to
replace all of it with new hardware and a single "standardized"
operating system. They'll thank You later? Not a chance.

-&

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Re: A great article ( found on the OpenBSD site)

2005-11-01 Thread marrandy
On Tuesday 01 November 2005 11:31, you wrote:
> On 11/1/05, Bob DeBolt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Greets
> >
> > I certainly found it worth a read.
> >
> > http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1375194866;fp;16;fpid;0
>
> quote:
> "My experience is that if something has to be done, just do it - don't
> ask! They will thank you later," he said.
>
> hmm!! interesting... :)
>
> one question though - is this the same Mark Uemura from
> www.openbsd-support.com?
>
> thanks for pointing out the article!!
>
> -jf


what is the via based box they are using here

http://www.openbsd-support.com/jp/en/htm/mgp/tokyopc05/mgp5.html



Re: A great article ( found on the OpenBSD site)

2005-11-01 Thread Greg Thomas
On 11/1/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Greg Thomas wrote:
>
> > On 11/1/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Bob DeBolt wrote:
> >>
> >>> Greets
> >>>
> >>> I certainly found it worth a read.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1375194866;fp;16;fpid;0
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Bob D
> >>
> >> This was already posted a week or two ago.
> >
> > On Slashdot and other places but as far as I can see Bob was the first
> to
> > post it on misc.
> > Greg
>
> My bad. I saw it on openbsd-newbies. Sorry about that Bob.

 Anyway, it's a damn cool article. I keep slipping OpenBSD in at work but I
haven't had a chance to initiate a sea change. We've got several firewall
projects at work where OpenBSD and CARP would save us big bucks but our
networking department is just too close-minded.
 Greg



Re: A great article ( found on the OpenBSD site)

2005-11-01 Thread beebum

On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Greg Thomas wrote:


On 11/1/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Bob DeBolt wrote:


Greets

I certainly found it worth a read.

http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1375194866;fp;16;fpid;0


Bob D


This was already posted a week or two ago.


On Slashdot and other places but as far as I can see Bob was the first to
post it on misc.
Greg


My bad. I saw it on openbsd-newbies. Sorry about that Bob.

--
Terry



Re: A great article ( found on the OpenBSD site)

2005-11-01 Thread Jeffrey Lim
On 11/1/05, Bob DeBolt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greets
>
> I certainly found it worth a read.
>
> http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1375194866;fp;16;fpid;0
>

quote:
"My experience is that if something has to be done, just do it - don't
ask! They will thank you later," he said.

hmm!! interesting... :)

one question though - is this the same Mark Uemura from www.openbsd-support.com?

thanks for pointing out the article!!

-jf



Re: A great article ( found on the OpenBSD site)

2005-11-01 Thread beebum

On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Bob DeBolt wrote:


Greets

I certainly found it worth a read.

http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1375194866;fp;16;fpid;0


Bob D


This was already posted a week or two ago.

--
Terry



A great article ( found on the OpenBSD site)

2005-11-01 Thread Bob DeBolt
Greets

I certainly found it worth a read.

http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1375194866;fp;16;fpid;0


Bob D