Re: Apple iBook

2005-08-14 Thread Nick Holland
Ober Heim wrote:
> Would it not follow the rule of least suprise to explicitly document that 
> a common feature is not available on a specific platform. Instead of the 
> documentation through implications?

This is not a "common feature".
About 25% of our platforms support multiple consoles.  Multiple text
consoles are an exception, not the rule.  I think that is pretty clear
in the FAQ article.

Unfortunately, as probably 90% of our users use *one* of those sixteen
platforms, they tend to assume every other computer in the world is just
like that one.  Unfortunately, no wording I have ever discovered will
get people to quit treating their Macintosh, their SPARC or their
mvme88k like i386s.  Documenting which features of i386 systems are not
on every other platform would read like the _Iliad's_ "Catalog of ships"
that we all skipped through to get back to the blood, guts and sex, and
documentation that no one will read doesn't do the job...

Nick.



Re: Apple iBook

2005-08-14 Thread Matthias Kilian
On Sun, Aug 14, 2005 at 04:20:40PM -0400, Ted Unangst wrote:
> "On amd64, i386 and Alpha systems with vga(4) cards..."

Which is an understatement.


--- faq7.html.orig  Sun Aug 14 22:40:58 2005
+++ faq7.html   Sun Aug 14 22:52:46 2005
@@ -38,7 +38,7 @@
 7.4 - Accessing the console scrollback
 buffer. (amd64, i386, some Alpha)
 7.5 - How do I switch consoles? (amd64, i386,
-some Alpha)
+some Alpha, Zaurus)
 7.6 - How can I use a console resolution 
 of 80x50? (amd64, i386)
 7.7 - How do I use a serial console?
@@ -146,7 +146,8 @@
 
 
 
-7.5 - How do I switch consoles? (amd64, i386, some Alpha)
+7.5 - How do I switch consoles? (amd64, i386, some Alpha,
+  Zaurus)
 
 On amd64, i386 and Alpha systems with 
 http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=vga&sektion=4";>vga(4)
@@ -194,6 +195,12 @@
 http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=init&sektion=8";>init(8)
 a HUP signal using 
 http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=kill&sektion=1";>kill(1).
+
+
+On the Zaurus, two virtual terminals (/dev/ttyC0 and /dev/ttyC1)
+are available by default, accessible with [ALT]+[CALENDAR]
+and [ALT]+[ADDRESS] (The [ALT] key is the one
+right of the left [CTRL] key).
 
 
 7.6 - How do I use a console resolution of 80x50? (amd64, i386)



Re: Apple iBook

2005-08-14 Thread Ted Unangst
On Sun, 14 Aug 2005, Ober Heim wrote:

> Would it not follow the rule of least suprise to explicitly document that a
> common feature is not available on a specific platform. Instead of the
> documentation through implications?

"On amd64, i386 and Alpha systems with vga(4) cards..."

seems like it's documented to me.


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And that's why we need Eddie Van Halen in our band.



Re: Apple iBook

2005-08-14 Thread Ober Heim
Would it not follow the rule of least suprise to explicitly document that 
a common feature is not available on a specific platform. Instead of the 
documentation through implications?


"I am not your puppet. Since when? Now, get your spongy pink ass out 
there, and dance for the cameras."  -Death to Smoochy


On Sat, 13 Aug 2005, Nick Holland wrote:


Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 12:31:40 -0400
From: Nick Holland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: misc 
Subject: Re: Apple iBook

Nuzaihan Kamalluddin wrote:

Hi,

I've tried googling but with little success, I am trying to use virtual
terminals (console), but I could get ctrl+alt+f1 to work. From what I see in
the dmesg, it detects those keys such as F1 as a device for brightness and
sound volume.


http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq7.html#SwitchConsole
Note the platforms that console switching is supported on.


How do I solve this? My X-window is not working too (I used the default
radeon driver at xorgconfig) for my radeon mobility 9200, I'm using OpenBSD
3.7


That is a completely useless problem report and is being appropriately
ignored.  It also sounds like you didn't read the /usr/X11R6/README file.

Nick.




Re: Apple iBook

2005-08-13 Thread Nick Holland
Nuzaihan Kamalluddin wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've tried googling but with little success, I am trying to use virtual
> terminals (console), but I could get ctrl+alt+f1 to work. From what I see in
> the dmesg, it detects those keys such as F1 as a device for brightness and
> sound volume.

http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq7.html#SwitchConsole
Note the platforms that console switching is supported on.

> How do I solve this? My X-window is not working too (I used the default
> radeon driver at xorgconfig) for my radeon mobility 9200, I'm using OpenBSD
> 3.7

That is a completely useless problem report and is being appropriately
ignored.  It also sounds like you didn't read the /usr/X11R6/README file.

Nick.



Re: Apple iBook

2005-08-13 Thread Alec Berryman
Nuzaihan Kamalluddin on 2005-08-13 23:51:02 +0800:

> I've tried googling but with little success, I am trying to use
> virtual terminals (console), but I could get ctrl+alt+f1 to
> work. From what I see in the dmesg, it detects those keys such as F1
> as a device for brightness and sound volume.

If it's detecting them as brightness and sound volume, you probably
need to hold down 'Fn' while you do ctrl-alt-f1.



Apple iBook

2005-08-13 Thread Nuzaihan Kamalluddin
Hi,

I've tried googling but with little success, I am trying to use virtual
terminals (console), but I could get ctrl+alt+f1 to work. From what I see in
the dmesg, it detects those keys such as F1 as a device for brightness and
sound volume.

How do I solve this? My X-window is not working too (I used the default
radeon driver at xorgconfig) for my radeon mobility 9200, I'm using OpenBSD
3.7



Apple iBook 300

2005-06-23 Thread tochy
Hi,

I've installed OpenBSD 3.7 on iBook 300 from official CD.
But in booting and Xorg, I get below messages.  

method  not found; ihandle=ffbc9600 phandle=ff93b470
method  not found; ihandle=ffbc9600 phandle=ff93b470
method  not found; ihandle=ffbc9600 phandle=ff93b470

I want to control backlight and contrast.
Has anyone got any advice?

I use GENERIC kernel. Dmesg output is below.

[ using 308668 bytes of bsd ELF symbol table ]
console out [ATY,RageM_Lp]console in [keyboard] ADB found
: memaddr 9100 size 100, : consaddr 9100, : ioaddr 9002, size 
2: memtag 8000, iotag 8000: width 800 linebytes 800 height 600 depth 8
Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
The Regents of the University of California.  All rights reserved.
Copyright (c) 1995-2005 OpenBSD. All rights reserved.  http://www.OpenBSD.org

OpenBSD 3.7 (GENERIC) #225: Sun Mar 20 00:55:39 MST 2005
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/macppc/compile/GENERIC
real mem = 100663296 (98304K)
avail mem = 81424384 (79516K)
using 1228 buffers containing 5029888 bytes of memory
mainbus0 (root)
cpu0 at mainbus0: 750 (Revision 0x8300): 299 MHz: 512KB backside cache
memc0 at mainbus0: uni-n
mpcpcibr0 at mainbus0: uni-north, Revision 0xff
pci0 at mpcpcibr0 bus 0
pchb0 at pci0 dev 11 function 0 "Apple Uni-N AGP" rev 0x00
vgafb0 at pci0 dev 16 function 0 "ATI Mach64 LN" rev 0x64, mmio
wsdisplay0 at vgafb0: console (std, vt100 emulation)
mpcpcibr1 at mainbus0: uni-north, Revision 0x0
pci1 at mpcpcibr1 bus 0
pchb1 at pci1 dev 11 function 0 "Apple Uni-N" rev 0x00
macobio0 at pci1 dev 23 function 0 "Apple Keylargo" rev 0x02
openpic0 at macobio0: version 0x4614
gpio_obio0 at macobio0
gpio_obio1 at gpio_obio0 irq 47
programmer-switch at gpio_obio0 not configured
extint-gpio12 at gpio_obio0 not configured
zsc0 at macobio0: irq 22,50
zstty0 at zsc0 channel 0
zstty1 at zsc0 channel 1
adb0 at macobio0 irq 25: via-pmu 3 targets
aed0 at adb0 addr 0: ADB Event device
akbd0 at adb0 addr 2: PowerBook G3 keyboard (Japanese layout)
wskbd0 at akbd0 (mux 1 ignored for console): console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
ams0 at adb0 addr 3: EMP trackpad  2-button, 400 dpi
wsmouse0 at ams0 mux 0
abtn0 at adb0 addr 7: brightness/volume/eject buttons
apm0 at adb0: battery flags 0x7, 100% charged
ki2c0 at macobio0
wdc0 at macobio0 irq 19: DMA
wd0 at wdc0 channel 0 drive 0: 
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 3102MB, 6354432 sectors
wd0(wdc0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2, Ultra-DMA mode 2
wdc1 at macobio0 irq 20: DMA
atapiscsi0 at wdc1 channel 0 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0:  SCSI0 5/cdrom 
removable
cd0(wdc1:0:0): using BIOS timings, DMA mode 2
wdc2 at macobio0 irq 21: DMA
ohci0 at pci1 dev 24 function 0 "Apple USB" rev 0x00: irq 27, version 1.0
usb0 at ohci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0 at usb0
uhub0: Apple OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
ohci1 at pci1 dev 25 function 0 "Apple USB" rev 0x00: irq 0, version 1.0
usb1 at ohci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1
uhub1: Apple OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
mpcpcibr2 at mainbus0: uni-north, Revision 0x16
pci2 at mpcpcibr2 bus 0
pchb2 at pci2 dev 11 function 0 "Apple Uni-N Eth" rev 0x00
gem0 at pci2 dev 15 function 0 "Apple GMAC" rev 0x00: irq 41, address 
00:0a:27:97:43:72
bmtphy0 at gem0 phy 0: BCM5201 10/100 PHY, rev. 2
bootpath: '/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]/bsd'
boot device: wd0.
root on wd0a
rootdev=0x0 rrootdev=0xb00 rawdev=0xb02


Best Regards.
--
Tochy