Re: Chances of this hardware running OpenBSD?

2007-06-04 Thread Johan M:son Lindman
  It is the same scam and con artists behind this scheme as in the
  other cases of amiga vapoware that we've seen over the course of the
  last ten years or so.
  
  So please, don't start foaming at the mouth before you actually hold
  one of these units in your hand.
 
 IMHO this attitude destroys (not only) their business model; of course
 one need pre-orders before they really start to create PCBs et al. out
 of nothing.

In my not so humble opinion you should go read this article, I believe
saying I told you so is unnecessary at this point.

http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=18018


Regards
Johan M:son Lindman



Re: Chances of this hardware running OpenBSD?

2007-05-09 Thread Tobias Weingartner
Timo Schoeler wrote:
 
  I was disappointed quite often by vaporware in the Amiga universe,

  However, as this really might become reality


Don't hold your breath.  $1500 for a system that is meant to cator
to the amiga crowd.  *shrug*  If you want to start on a port, get
in contact with P.A.Semi, and buy their SDK board.  The amiga board
looks like a 100% knock-off of it.

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Chances of this hardware running OpenBSD?

2007-05-08 Thread Timo Schoeler
Hi list,

during the last days news popped up [0] verifying that the new 'Power
System' (aka Amiga) will be based on PA Semi's very nice PowerPC chip.

I was disappointed quite often by vaporware in the Amiga universe,
especially during the hard, long time of agony of this system.

However, as this really might become reality, how are chances to port
OpenBSD to this machine? I'd like to be able to replace my x86/amd64
workstation at work by something non-SPARCy [I *like* SPARC] ;)

[0] -- http://www.amiga.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=7310

-- 
I think sex is better than logic, but I can't prove it.



Re: Chances of this hardware running OpenBSD?

2007-05-08 Thread Lars D . Noodén
It's been an awfully long time since the last model.

What's the expected timeline on the release date for the hardware?  It
looks interesting.  I'd be even more interested in a PPC-based equivalent
of the MacMini.

-Lars

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Re: Chances of this hardware running OpenBSD?

2007-05-08 Thread Johan M:son Lindman
On Tuesday 08 May 2007, you wrote:
 Hi list,
 
 during the last days news popped up [0] verifying that the new 'Power
 System' (aka Amiga) will be based on PA Semi's very nice PowerPC chip.
 
 I was disappointed quite often by vaporware in the Amiga universe,
 especially during the hard, long time of agony of this system.
 
 However, as this really might become reality, how are chances to port
 OpenBSD to this machine? I'd like to be able to replace my x86/amd64
 workstation at work by something non-SPARCy [I *like* SPARC] ;)
 
 [0] -- http://www.amiga.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=7310
 
 -- 
 I think sex is better than logic, but I can't prove it.

Timo,

Please check the URL you provided yourself.
It is the same scam and con artists behind this scheme as in the other cases
of amiga vapoware that we've seen over the course of the last ten years or so.

So please, don't start foaming at the mouth before you actually hold one of 
these
units in your hand.

The Pegasos story ought to have taught us all a very valuable lesson about the
fraudsters that have been (and I believe still are) dealing with what is left of
Amiga.


Regards
Johan M:son



Re: Chances of this hardware running OpenBSD?

2007-05-08 Thread Timo Schoeler
On Tue, 8 May 2007 17:59:13 +0200
Johan M:son Lindman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tuesday 08 May 2007, you wrote:
  Hi list,
  
  during the last days news popped up [0] verifying that the new
  'Power System' (aka Amiga) will be based on PA Semi's very nice
  PowerPC chip.
  
  I was disappointed quite often by vaporware in the Amiga universe,
  especially during the hard, long time of agony of this system.
  
  However, as this really might become reality, how are chances to
  port OpenBSD to this machine? I'd like to be able to replace my
  x86/amd64 workstation at work by something non-SPARCy [I *like*
  SPARC] ;)
  
  [0] -- http://www.amiga.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=7310
  
  -- 
  I think sex is better than logic, but I can't prove it.
 
 Timo,
 
 Please check the URL you provided yourself.

I never do such things ;)

 It is the same scam and con artists behind this scheme as in the
 other cases of amiga vapoware that we've seen over the course of the
 last ten years or so.
 
 So please, don't start foaming at the mouth before you actually hold
 one of these units in your hand.

IMHO this attitude destroys (not only) their business model; of course
one need pre-orders before they really start to create PCBs et al. out
of nothing.

 The Pegasos story ought to have taught us all a very valuable lesson
 about the fraudsters that have been (and I believe still are) dealing
 with what is left of Amiga.

So did Phase 5.

 Regards
 Johan M:son

If you don't have a dream .. Then you'll never have a dream come true

(South Pacific)

 ;)



Re: Chances of this hardware running OpenBSD?

2007-05-08 Thread Ted Unangst

On 5/8/07, Timo Schoeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

However, as this really might become reality, how are chances to port
OpenBSD to this machine? I'd like to be able to replace my x86/amd64
workstation at work by something non-SPARCy [I *like* SPARC] ;)


i'll answer that when i have one sitting on my desk...



Re: Chances of this hardware running OpenBSD?

2007-05-08 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Tue, 8 May 2007, Lars D. NoodC)n wrote:

 It's been an awfully long time since the last model.

 What's the expected timeline on the release date for the hardware?  It
 looks interesting.  I'd be even more interested in a PPC-based equivalent
 of the MacMini.

Wow, I have EXACTLY such a beast, and OpenBSD already runs on it!

-Otto



Re: Chances of this hardware running OpenBSD?

2007-05-08 Thread Timo Schoeler
On Tue, 8 May 2007 11:39:33 -0400 (EDT)
Lars D. Noodin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It's been an awfully long time since the last model.

 What's the expected timeline on the release date for the hardware?

The press release states 'Winter 2007'. A reasonable time frame for
this project, AFAICS.

 It looks interesting.  I'd be even more interested in a PPC-based
 equivalent of the MacMini.

http://openbsd.org/macppc.html

 -Lars

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