Re: Hardware/System Question
> > Optiplexes have a reputation for spontaneously letting the magic smoke out > > of their own power supply capacitors. hard to recommend unless you have a > > good support deal with dell > > Knowing which way round to hold a soldering iron is a useful skill > if you're dealing with cheap hardware :) I keep forgetting that, no wonder I'm a cripple. Worrying, I have an optiplex connected to my TV which sounds like a whining stressed capacitor whenever it's first turned on. Hopefully the damage is always contained. -- Why not do something good every day and install BOINC.
Re: Hardware/System Question
On 23.06.12 20:12, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2012/06/23 11:02, Ben Calvert wrote: >> Optiplexes have a reputation for spontaneously letting the magic smoke out >> of their own power supply capacitors. hard to recommend unless you have a >> good support deal with dell > > Knowing which way round to hold a soldering iron is a useful skill > if you're dealing with cheap hardware :) Thats what I did with my SX270s ;-)
Re: Hardware/System Question
On 06/23/2012 01:12 PM, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2012/06/23 11:02, Ben Calvert wrote: >> Optiplexes have a reputation for spontaneously letting the magic smoke out of their own power supply capacitors. hard to recommend unless you have a good support deal with dell > > Knowing which way round to hold a soldering iron is a useful skill > if you're dealing with cheap hardware :) > > > While on the subject of cheap hardware My test lab is made of a bunch of Wyse 941GXLs I bought on Ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wyse-Terminals-Lot-of-5-FREE-SHIPPING-/120922782473?p t=US_Thin_Clients&hash=item1c278f3b09 Mine specifically have Via C3 1Ghz CPUs (i386 only) with 256MB RAM (with an empty DIMM slot) and I use IDE to CF adapters like these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Compact-Flash-CF-to-3-5-Female-40-Pin-IDE-Bootable-Ad apter-Converter-Card-/120937687353?pt=US_Drive_Cables_dapters&hash=item1c2872 a939 ... (with CF cards, of course) for the boot disks. The cards are kind of a tight fit, but you can still add a half-length PCI card to the units, and I have mine populated with these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Intel-PRO-100-Dual-Port-Server-Adapter-9213P-/20 0739620019?pt=US_Internal_Network_Cards&hash=item2ebd0384b3 I haven't had any issues out of any of them, running at times for weeks on end doing various tasks. They're also silent :) I spent about $100 on each of them a while back, and prices look to have come down a good bit since then. A very good purchase, in my opinion. I don't really think these fit your needs very well, but thought I'd throw these out there while the subject was on cheap hardware. *I'd personally look at* some of the more current and powerful Mini-ITX stuff. You can even get LGA1155 Mini-ITX boards nowdays, with i7 processor support for around $75 (Intel BOXDH61DLB3, for example) and add whatever components you want to it. If you're on a budget, a Celeron G530 should work and would kill an Atom or E-350 at any task. Thank you, -- James Shupe [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature which had a name of signature.asc]
Re: Hardware/System Question
On 2012/06/23 11:02, Ben Calvert wrote: > Optiplexes have a reputation for spontaneously letting the magic smoke out of > their own power supply capacitors. hard to recommend unless you have a good > support deal with dell Knowing which way round to hold a soldering iron is a useful skill if you're dealing with cheap hardware :)
Re: Hardware/System Question
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Michał Markowski wrote: > 2012/6/23 Stuart Henderson : >> They don't appear to be cheap enough to counteract the fact that >> performance/spec is probably best described as "optimized for running >> as a terminal service client", looks like something a bit newer like >> an eee box is only a little more expensive (and comes with a hard drive..) > > Well, my t5135 cost me about 70 pln (ca. 20 usd), so I don't see Eee > box "only a little more exspensive". :) It depends on what performance > you need, but for home file server it's enough - with external hdd it > can easily saturate 100 Mbps link during nfs transfers. > Do you have some spare? ;-) On Ebay they start from 50USD > -- > Michał Markowski
Re: Hardware/System Question
Optiplexes have a reputation for spontaneously letting the magic smoke out of their own power supply capacitors. hard to recommend unless you have a good support deal with dell On Jun 23, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2012-06-23, Peter wrote: >>> On 2012-06-22, Michał Markowski wrote: I can recommend this one: http://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/hp/t5135/index.shtml Other HP thin clients should be ok as well. >>> >>> They don't appear to be cheap enough to counteract the fact that >>> performance/spec is probably best described as "optimized for running >>> as a terminal service client", looks like something a bit newer like >>> an eee box is only a little more expensive (and comes with a hard drive..) >> >> EeePCs and EeeBoxes have an ExpressGate/Splashtop remote BIOS. Not that other >> BIOSes are necessarily cleaner but this one's a stinker for sure. > > I don't know specifically about eeeboxes but not all the eeepcs have this bios. > Maybe Optiplex fx160 then? they're cheap at the moment and also small.
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On 2012-06-23, Peter wrote: >>On 2012-06-22, Michał Markowski wrote: >>> I can recommend this one: >>> http://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/hp/t5135/index.shtml >>> Other HP thin clients should be ok as well. >> >>They don't appear to be cheap enough to counteract the fact that >>performance/spec is probably best described as "optimized for running >>as a terminal service client", looks like something a bit newer like >>an eee box is only a little more expensive (and comes with a hard drive..) > > EeePCs and EeeBoxes have an ExpressGate/Splashtop remote BIOS. Not that other > BIOSes are necessarily cleaner but this one's a stinker for sure. I don't know specifically about eeeboxes but not all the eeepcs have this bios. Maybe Optiplex fx160 then? they're cheap at the moment and also small.
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>On 2012-06-22, Michał Markowski wrote: >> I can recommend this one: >> http://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/hp/t5135/index.shtml >> Other HP thin clients should be ok as well. > >They don't appear to be cheap enough to counteract the fact that >performance/spec is probably best described as "optimized for running >as a terminal service client", looks like something a bit newer like >an eee box is only a little more expensive (and comes with a hard drive..) EeePCs and EeeBoxes have an ExpressGate/Splashtop remote BIOS. Not that other BIOSes are necessarily cleaner but this one's a stinker for sure. -- p
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2012/6/23 Stuart Henderson : > They don't appear to be cheap enough to counteract the fact that > performance/spec is probably best described as "optimized for running > as a terminal service client", looks like something a bit newer like > an eee box is only a little more expensive (and comes with a hard drive..) Well, my t5135 cost me about 70 pln (ca. 20 usd), so I don't see Eee box "only a little more exspensive". :) It depends on what performance you need, but for home file server it's enough - with external hdd it can easily saturate 100 Mbps link during nfs transfers. -- Michał Markowski
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On 2012-06-22, Michał Markowski wrote: > I can recommend this one: > http://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/hp/t5135/index.shtml > Other HP thin clients should be ok as well. They don't appear to be cheap enough to counteract the fact that performance/spec is probably best described as "optimized for running as a terminal service client", looks like something a bit newer like an eee box is only a little more expensive (and comes with a hard drive..)
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I can recommend this one: http://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/hp/t5135/index.shtml Other HP thin clients should be ok as well. -- Michał Markowski
Re: Hardware/System Question
Opie wrote: > I'm looking for a small system that I can run ftp, web, personal mail and > maybe a build enviroment. I say small system only due to space requirements. > A normal desktop computer or small would work well. This is one that I was > looking at but not sure if it would be i386 since it is an embedded chip. Or > if it would lack the abillity to do what I'm asking. > > http://soekris.com/products/net6501.html The net6501 can run OpenBSD/amd64 or OpenBSD/i386. > and the net5501. That one is i386 only. Some Soekris resellers also offer alternative cases. If you don't need an expansion card, you may be able to get a case that's about 1/3 smaller than the regular one. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber na...@mips.inka.de
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> I'm looking for a small system that I can run ftp, web, personal mail and >maybe a build enviroment. I say small system only due to space requirements. >A normal desktop computer or small would work well. This is one that I was >looking at but not sure if it would be i386 since it is an embedded chip. Or >if it would lack the abillity to do what I'm asking. > >http://soekris.com/products/net6501.html >and the net5501. Those seem overkill for ftp/web/mail and underpowered for build, which are wildly different requirements (and bad idea to combine). You can get a cheap Alix for the server part, I'm looking at a Gigabyte GA-H61N-USB3 to build a Mac Mini-like dev box. -- p
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On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Opie wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking for a small system that I can run ftp, web, personal mail and > maybe a build enviroment. I say small system only due to space requirements. > A normal desktop computer or small would work well. This is one that I was > looking at but not sure if it would be i386 since it is an embedded chip. Or > if it would lack the abillity to do what I'm asking. > > http://soekris.com/products/net6501.html > and the net5501. > I'm looking for something similar. However Soekris stuff is good, but quite expensive. This one seems promising http://www.viaembedded.com/en/products/minipcs/1850/1/ARTiGO_A1200.html You can probably build good ones from these http://www.supermicro.com/products/nfo/atom.cfm#MB , again more expensive when comparing with typical Atom-based MB, but these have COM ports, 2xLAN and so on. Seems like in the end there's not much to choose from :-( > Thanks > Andy
Hardware/System Question
Hi, I'm looking for a small system that I can run ftp, web, personal mail and maybe a build enviroment. I say small system only due to space requirements. A normal desktop computer or small would work well. This is one that I was looking at but not sure if it would be i386 since it is an embedded chip. Or if it would lack the abillity to do what I'm asking. http://soekris.com/products/net6501.html and the net5501. Thanks Andy
