Re: Hardware recomendations please

2008-12-02 Thread Louis V. Lambrecht

Stuart Henderson wrote:

On 2008-12-02, nuffnough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

Hey there.

My firewalls are getting old, so I thought it would be a great idea to
replace them.  I figured that a budget of around $1500 would be more
than adequate,  but because no one makes mobos with 5 pci slots
anymore I am struggling to get these under $2800.

I have requirements for 6 legs plus the carp sync (which I could do
with a usb nowadays,  so that means just 6).  The rest of the system
is relatively undemanding, so 4 gig RAM is overkill, and it doesn't
require huge CPU grunt either.  It would be great if I could fit it
into a small formfactor case to save rackspace, but this isn't worth
$2k to me.

Please recommend mobo/NIC combo that would fit within the budget!



Most 1U servers have at least two onboard network interfaces (dell r200,
dell 1950, hp dl140, dl145, ...) and there are a few choices for 4-port
PCI-X and PCIE cards. If you look harder you find 6-port ones too e.g.
hotlavasystems.com (copper or SFP, Intel chips, look like rebadged
solway.co.kr boards) and silicom.co.il (copper, Broadcom).

Or "firewall-on-a-stick" as mentioned before is a good option in some
environments (tagged VLANs to a managed switch).


  

Ever considered non "standard" PC's (what it might mean).
http://www.soekris.com/net4801.htm
http://www.pcengines.ch/alix.htm
these really cuts your budget and are well OpenBSD supported.



Re: Hardware recomendations please

2008-12-02 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2008-12-02, nuffnough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey there.
>
> My firewalls are getting old, so I thought it would be a great idea to
> replace them.  I figured that a budget of around $1500 would be more
> than adequate,  but because no one makes mobos with 5 pci slots
> anymore I am struggling to get these under $2800.
>
> I have requirements for 6 legs plus the carp sync (which I could do
> with a usb nowadays,  so that means just 6).  The rest of the system
> is relatively undemanding, so 4 gig RAM is overkill, and it doesn't
> require huge CPU grunt either.  It would be great if I could fit it
> into a small formfactor case to save rackspace, but this isn't worth
> $2k to me.
>
> Please recommend mobo/NIC combo that would fit within the budget!

Most 1U servers have at least two onboard network interfaces (dell r200,
dell 1950, hp dl140, dl145, ...) and there are a few choices for 4-port
PCI-X and PCIE cards. If you look harder you find 6-port ones too e.g.
hotlavasystems.com (copper or SFP, Intel chips, look like rebadged
solway.co.kr boards) and silicom.co.il (copper, Broadcom).

Or "firewall-on-a-stick" as mentioned before is a good option in some
environments (tagged VLANs to a managed switch).



Re: Hardware recomendations please

2008-12-02 Thread Joseph A Borg

I just bought an Asus P5KPL-C, if you're going really cheap.
http://asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=563&l4=0&model=1978&modelmenu=2

The onboard Gbit ethernet is not compatible with OpenBSD, it lacks  
onboard graphics, but has 4 onboard sata ports available and 1 pata,  
if you need them. Has 3pci, 1x pcie x16, 1x pcie x1


As for nic cards I use realtek, but I'm cheap!



On Dec 2, 2008, at 07:43, nuffnough wrote:


Hey there.

My firewalls are getting old, so I thought it would be a great idea to
replace them.  I figured that a budget of around $1500 would be more
than adequate,  but because no one makes mobos with 5 pci slots
anymore I am struggling to get these under $2800.

I have requirements for 6 legs plus the carp sync (which I could do
with a usb nowadays,  so that means just 6).  The rest of the system
is relatively undemanding, so 4 gig RAM is overkill, and it doesn't
require huge CPU grunt either.  It would be great if I could fit it
into a small formfactor case to save rackspace, but this isn't worth
$2k to me.

Please recommend mobo/NIC combo that would fit within the budget!

TIA

nuffi




Re: Hardware recomendations please

2008-12-02 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 17:43:39 +1100, nuffnough wrote:

>Hey there.
>
>My firewalls are getting old, so I thought it would be a great idea to
>replace them.  I figured that a budget of around $1500 would be more
>than adequate,  but because no one makes mobos with 5 pci slots
>anymore I am struggling to get these under $2800.
>
>I have requirements for 6 legs plus the carp sync (which I could do
>with a usb nowadays,  so that means just 6).  The rest of the system
>is relatively undemanding, so 4 gig RAM is overkill, and it doesn't
>require huge CPU grunt either.  It would be great if I could fit it
>into a small formfactor case to save rackspace, but this isn't worth
>$2k to me.
>
>Please recommend mobo/NIC combo that would fit within the budget!

OK I know how many ether ports you need but little else.

However I have just received two of these
http://www.yawarra.com.au/product.php?productCode=HW-NT55-R2 (Go down
the spec list and choose the 500MHz processor for board 1, choose the
LAN 1641 for board 2 and you will see a price of $1220.00)

The price includes Aussie GST 10% so divide by 1.1 and then correct for
$AUD1=$US0.64 and you get a nice surprise.

You could just buy the case and get the boards from Soekris.
Also note that the internal PSU is specced at 240V input but the input
range is 100-240VAC.

I have to configure two of these in a CARP setup with BGPd handling a
/21 IPv4 feed and a /32 IPv6 feed with three sources (1 v4, 1 v6, 1
both). That's really fun - I've never done any BGP before but, after
all, I am using OpenBSD so I'll get there somehow. 8-)


>
>TIA
>
>nuffi
>


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Re: Hardware recomendations please

2008-12-02 Thread Jussi Peltola
On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 05:43:39PM +1100, nuffnough wrote:
> Hey there.
> 
> My firewalls are getting old, so I thought it would be a great idea to
> replace them.  I figured that a budget of around $1500 would be more
> than adequate,  but because no one makes mobos with 5 pci slots
> anymore I am struggling to get these under $2800.
> 
> I have requirements for 6 legs plus the carp sync (which I could do
> with a usb nowadays,  so that means just 6).  The rest of the system
> is relatively undemanding, so 4 gig RAM is overkill, and it doesn't
> require huge CPU grunt either.  It would be great if I could fit it
> into a small formfactor case to save rackspace, but this isn't worth
> $2k to me.
> 
> Please recommend mobo/NIC combo that would fit within the budget!
 
Any server, some extra gigabit cards and a good manageable switch. That
will take an extra rack unit but should fit in $1500. With the small
(depth-wise) supermicro servers it might actually fit in 1U but that's a
bit hack-ish.

-- 
Jussi Peltola



Re: Hardware recomendations please

2008-12-01 Thread James Shupe
I'd recommend building some Supermicro boxes on the 512L-260B/PDSBM-LN2+
(1u, s775, 946gz) platform. You can build a very nice box and pair it
with riser card and a quad port DFE-570TX NIC and come in well under
your $1500 budget. If you need exact part numbers, I can get you the
ones we use.

On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 17:43 +1100, nuffnough wrote:
> Hey there.
>
> My firewalls are getting old, so I thought it would be a great idea to
> replace them.  I figured that a budget of around $1500 would be more
> than adequate,  but because no one makes mobos with 5 pci slots
> anymore I am struggling to get these under $2800.
>
> I have requirements for 6 legs plus the carp sync (which I could do
> with a usb nowadays,  so that means just 6).  The rest of the system
> is relatively undemanding, so 4 gig RAM is overkill, and it doesn't
> require huge CPU grunt either.  It would be great if I could fit it
> into a small formfactor case to save rackspace, but this isn't worth
> $2k to me.
>
> Please recommend mobo/NIC combo that would fit within the budget!
>
> TIA
>
> nuffi
>
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Hardware recomendations please

2008-12-01 Thread nuffnough
Hey there.

My firewalls are getting old, so I thought it would be a great idea to
replace them.  I figured that a budget of around $1500 would be more
than adequate,  but because no one makes mobos with 5 pci slots
anymore I am struggling to get these under $2800.

I have requirements for 6 legs plus the carp sync (which I could do
with a usb nowadays,  so that means just 6).  The rest of the system
is relatively undemanding, so 4 gig RAM is overkill, and it doesn't
require huge CPU grunt either.  It would be great if I could fit it
into a small formfactor case to save rackspace, but this isn't worth
$2k to me.

Please recommend mobo/NIC combo that would fit within the budget!

TIA

nuffi