Re: Hardware recommendation for small form factor, noiseless, server
Thanks a lot to you all for these recommendations.
Re: Hardware recommendation for small form factor, noiseless, server
Дана 24/05/08 02:37PM, Karsten Pedersen написа:
> [...] The C program can be as simple as compiling "Hello World" to exhibit the
> issue. Takes about 15 seconds to compile "Hello World". [...]
On a Lenovo IdeaPad 3-15IGL05 81WQ[1] laptop:
$ time sh -c "printf '#include \\nint main() { puts(\"Hello,\
world!\"); }\\n' | cc -o hello -xc -"
0m01.24s real 0m00.16s user 0m00.42s system
15 seconds? What is happening in the background? Ports compilation while
encoding video?
[1]: https://psref.lenovo.com/Product/IdeaPad/IdeaPad_3_15IGL05
Re: Hardware recommendation for small form factor, noiseless, server
> What exactly is "good" with OpenBSD? I summarize the issues in my last email > So again, what is "slow"? The machine running OpenBSD. Compared to similar ThinkCenters I have (m73 Tiny and m92 Tiny). Also a Raspberry Pi 3 (running OpenBSD at lowest freq). It seems not to be the SSD disk because the "slowness" is present when writing to MFS mounts. > 14 Watts for compilation or just idling? Just at idle. Granted OpenBSD tends to run quite hot compared to alternatives it still seems to draw more than the m73 and m93p. > What issues? I mention them in the last email > Might be, but you didn't checked by tests. Yes, of course you have to > use the same "C program" as before. I tested against different operating systems and different hardware. As mentioned there is definitely something up with this combo but I haven't had time to explore further. Hence my general note to avoid this machine if people can for now (if they want something guaranteed working). The C program can be as simple as compiling "Hello World" to exhibit the issue. Takes about 15 seconds to compile "Hello World". It doesn't need to be a "test" to suspect things aren't quite right here. > I suspect something different, I guess it is from the black / red > combination of the case colors. This is a broken combination and a > dangerous one in art and design. The m73 and m92 have similar case colors. So it is definitely not that ;)
Re: Hardware recommendation for small form factor, noiseless, server
2024-05-07T09:54:23Z "Karsten Pedersen" : > > Second-hand Lenovo M710q tiny with a wifi-card could also work: > > https://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi?do=view=5296 > > A quick note that the slightly older M625q (with an AMD processor) isn't > quite so good with OpenBSD. > It runs overly slow and I have yet had time to figure out why. Interestingly, > even on apm -H it takes > longer to compile a C program than a Raspberry Pi 3. It also takes 14 Watts > so the power management > isn't quite there yet. These issues aren't present with Linux or FreeBSD. > > It was ~£30 and completely fanless, so will almost be the perfect hardware > for a home server once > these issues can be resolved. > > In short, the M710q with Intel processor might be the better choice. I > suspect it is to do with the > pstate stuff that the issues are arrising from. > > Karsten I have an M700 10J0 and it works great. I don't use a wifi card so I can't say anything about that. I believe hibernation doesn't work very well (it gets stuck with unpacking or something like that when booting), but other than that I haven't had any issues with it. It's a solid machine I can recommend.
Re: Hardware recommendation for small form factor, noiseless, server
> A quick note that the slightly older M625q (with an AMD processor) isn't > quite so good with OpenBSD. What exactly is "good" with OpenBSD? > It runs overly slow and I have yet had time to figure out why. So again, what is "slow"? > Interestingly, even on apm -H it takes longer to compile a C program than a > Raspberry Pi 3. It also takes 14 Watts so the power management isn't quite there yet. These issues aren't present with Linux or FreeBSD. "A C program"? Well, that is interesting. 14 Watts for compilation or just idling? > It was ~ Ł30 and completely fanless, so will almost be the perfect hardware > for a home server once these issues can be resolved. What issues? > In short, the M710q with Intel processor might be the better choice. Might be, but you didn't checked by tests. Yes, of course you have to use the same "C program" as before. > I suspect it is to do with the pstate stuff that the > issues are arrising from. I suspect something different, I guess it is from the black / red combination of the case colors. This is a broken combination and a dangerous one in art and design. > Karsten You are welcome.
Re: Hardware recommendation for small form factor, noiseless, server
> Second-hand Lenovo M710q tiny with a wifi-card could also work: > https://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi?do=view=5296 A quick note that the slightly older M625q (with an AMD processor) isn't quite so good with OpenBSD. It runs overly slow and I have yet had time to figure out why. Interestingly, even on apm -H it takes longer to compile a C program than a Raspberry Pi 3. It also takes 14 Watts so the power management isn't quite there yet. These issues aren't present with Linux or FreeBSD. It was ~£30 and completely fanless, so will almost be the perfect hardware for a home server once these issues can be resolved. In short, the M710q with Intel processor might be the better choice. I suspect it is to do with the pstate stuff that the issues are arrising from. Karsten
Re: Hardware recommendation for small form factor, noiseless, server
Second-hand Lenovo M710q tiny with a wifi-card could also work: https://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi?do=view=5296 Jan Stary írta 2024. máj.. 7, K-n 08:47 órakor: > On May 06 21:03:17, mytraddr...@gmail.com wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> can anyone please advise on what computer I can purchase with the following >> requirements: >> >> - fully supports OpenBSD >> - no noise >> - good quality wifi >> - small form factor preferably >> - processor does not need to be fast (no highly intensive compute load) >> - low RAM need >> - needs 1 TB of hard drive at least >> - will be used only remotely, for basic and low-intensity server-type >> applications (no desktop use) >> - under $500 > > PC Engiunes APU2, with a wifi card plugged in, > and most of the $500 buying the 1 TB storage. > > > > OpenBSD 7.5-current (GENERIC.MP) #34: Sat Apr 27 21:19:57 MDT 2024 > dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP > real mem = 2112446464 (2014MB) > avail mem = 2027487232 (1933MB) > random: good seed from bootblocks > mpath0 at root > scsibus0 at mpath0: 256 targets > mainbus0 at root > bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 3.0 @ 0x7ee97040 (13 entries) > bios0: vendor coreboot version "v4.19.0.1" date 01/31/2023 > bios0: PC Engines apu2 > acpi0 at bios0: ACPI 6.0 > acpi0: sleep states S0 S1 S4 S5 > acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SSDT MCFG TPM2 APIC HEST IVRS SSDT SSDT DRTM > HPET > acpi0: wakeup devices PBR4(S4) PBR5(S4) PBR6(S4) PBR7(S4) PBR8(S4) > UOH1(S3) UOH2(S3) UOH3(S3) UOH4(S3) UOH5(S3) UOH6(S3) XHC0(S4) > acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 32 bits > acpimcfg0 at acpi0 > acpimcfg0: addr 0xf800, bus 0-63 > acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat > cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) > cpu0: AMD GX-412TC SOC, 998.17 MHz, 16-30-01, patch 07030105 > cpu0: > FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,PCLMUL,MWAIT,SSSE3,CX16,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,MOVBE,POPCNT,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,CMPLEG,SVM,EAPICSP,AMCR8,ABM,SSE4A,MASSE,3DNOWP,OSVW,IBS,SKINIT,TOPEXT,DBKP,PERFTSC,PCTRL3,HWPSTATE,ITSC,BMI1,XSAVEOPT > cpu0: 32KB 64b/line 8-way D-cache, 32KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 2MB > 64b/line 16-way L2 cache > cpu0: smt 0, core 0, package 0 > mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support, 8 var ranges, 88 fixed ranges > cpu0: apic clock running at 99MHz > cpu0: mwait min=64, max=64, IBE > cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor) > cpu1: AMD GX-412TC SOC, 998.44 MHz, 16-30-01, patch 07030105 > cpu1: > FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,PCLMUL,MWAIT,SSSE3,CX16,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,MOVBE,POPCNT,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,CMPLEG,SVM,EAPICSP,AMCR8,ABM,SSE4A,MASSE,3DNOWP,OSVW,IBS,SKINIT,TOPEXT,DBKP,PERFTSC,PCTRL3,HWPSTATE,ITSC,BMI1,XSAVEOPT > cpu1: 32KB 64b/line 8-way D-cache, 32KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 2MB > 64b/line 16-way L2 cache > cpu1: smt 0, core 1, package 0 > cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 2 (application processor) > cpu2: AMD GX-412TC SOC, 998.37 MHz, 16-30-01, patch 07030105 > cpu2: > FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,PCLMUL,MWAIT,SSSE3,CX16,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,MOVBE,POPCNT,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,CMPLEG,SVM,EAPICSP,AMCR8,ABM,SSE4A,MASSE,3DNOWP,OSVW,IBS,SKINIT,TOPEXT,DBKP,PERFTSC,PCTRL3,HWPSTATE,ITSC,BMI1,XSAVEOPT > cpu2: 32KB 64b/line 8-way D-cache, 32KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 2MB > 64b/line 16-way L2 cache > cpu2: smt 0, core 2, package 0 > cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 3 (application processor) > cpu3: AMD GX-412TC SOC, 998.31 MHz, 16-30-01, patch 07030105 > cpu3: > FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,PCLMUL,MWAIT,SSSE3,CX16,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,MOVBE,POPCNT,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,CMPLEG,SVM,EAPICSP,AMCR8,ABM,SSE4A,MASSE,3DNOWP,OSVW,IBS,SKINIT,TOPEXT,DBKP,PERFTSC,PCTRL3,HWPSTATE,ITSC,BMI1,XSAVEOPT > cpu3: 32KB 64b/line 8-way D-cache, 32KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 2MB > 64b/line 16-way L2 cache > cpu3: smt 0, core 3, package 0 > ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 4 pa 0xfec0, version 21, 24 pins > ioapic1 at mainbus0: apid 5 pa 0xfec2, version 21, 32 pins > acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318180 Hz > acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) > acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus -1 (PBR4) > acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 1 (PBR5) > acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus -1 (PBR6) > acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 2 (PBR7) > acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (PBR8) > acpicpu0 at acpi0: C2(0@400 io@0x1771), C1(@1 halt!), PSS > acpicpu1 at acpi0: C2(0@400 io@0x1771), C1(@1 halt!), PSS > acpicpu2 at acpi0: C2(0@400 io@0x1771), C1(@1 halt!), PSS > acpicpu3 at acpi0: C2(0@400 io@0x1771), C1(@1 halt!), PSS > acpicpu4 at acpi0: no cpu matching ACPI ID 4 > acpicpu5 at acpi0: no cpu matching ACPI ID 5 > acpicpu6 at acpi0: no cpu matching ACPI ID 6 > acpicpu7 at acpi0: no cpu matching ACPI ID 7 > acpipci0 at acpi0 PCI0:
Re: Hardware recommendation for small form factor, noiseless, server
On May 06 21:03:17, mytraddr...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi all, > > can anyone please advise on what computer I can purchase with the following > requirements: > > - fully supports OpenBSD > - no noise > - good quality wifi > - small form factor preferably > - processor does not need to be fast (no highly intensive compute load) > - low RAM need > - needs 1 TB of hard drive at least > - will be used only remotely, for basic and low-intensity server-type > applications (no desktop use) > - under $500 PC Engiunes APU2, with a wifi card plugged in, and most of the $500 buying the 1 TB storage. OpenBSD 7.5-current (GENERIC.MP) #34: Sat Apr 27 21:19:57 MDT 2024 dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP real mem = 2112446464 (2014MB) avail mem = 2027487232 (1933MB) random: good seed from bootblocks mpath0 at root scsibus0 at mpath0: 256 targets mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 3.0 @ 0x7ee97040 (13 entries) bios0: vendor coreboot version "v4.19.0.1" date 01/31/2023 bios0: PC Engines apu2 acpi0 at bios0: ACPI 6.0 acpi0: sleep states S0 S1 S4 S5 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SSDT MCFG TPM2 APIC HEST IVRS SSDT SSDT DRTM HPET acpi0: wakeup devices PBR4(S4) PBR5(S4) PBR6(S4) PBR7(S4) PBR8(S4) UOH1(S3) UOH2(S3) UOH3(S3) UOH4(S3) UOH5(S3) UOH6(S3) XHC0(S4) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 32 bits acpimcfg0 at acpi0 acpimcfg0: addr 0xf800, bus 0-63 acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: AMD GX-412TC SOC, 998.17 MHz, 16-30-01, patch 07030105 cpu0: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,PCLMUL,MWAIT,SSSE3,CX16,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,MOVBE,POPCNT,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,CMPLEG,SVM,EAPICSP,AMCR8,ABM,SSE4A,MASSE,3DNOWP,OSVW,IBS,SKINIT,TOPEXT,DBKP,PERFTSC,PCTRL3,HWPSTATE,ITSC,BMI1,XSAVEOPT cpu0: 32KB 64b/line 8-way D-cache, 32KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 2MB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache cpu0: smt 0, core 0, package 0 mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support, 8 var ranges, 88 fixed ranges cpu0: apic clock running at 99MHz cpu0: mwait min=64, max=64, IBE cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor) cpu1: AMD GX-412TC SOC, 998.44 MHz, 16-30-01, patch 07030105 cpu1: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,PCLMUL,MWAIT,SSSE3,CX16,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,MOVBE,POPCNT,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,CMPLEG,SVM,EAPICSP,AMCR8,ABM,SSE4A,MASSE,3DNOWP,OSVW,IBS,SKINIT,TOPEXT,DBKP,PERFTSC,PCTRL3,HWPSTATE,ITSC,BMI1,XSAVEOPT cpu1: 32KB 64b/line 8-way D-cache, 32KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 2MB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache cpu1: smt 0, core 1, package 0 cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 2 (application processor) cpu2: AMD GX-412TC SOC, 998.37 MHz, 16-30-01, patch 07030105 cpu2: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,PCLMUL,MWAIT,SSSE3,CX16,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,MOVBE,POPCNT,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,CMPLEG,SVM,EAPICSP,AMCR8,ABM,SSE4A,MASSE,3DNOWP,OSVW,IBS,SKINIT,TOPEXT,DBKP,PERFTSC,PCTRL3,HWPSTATE,ITSC,BMI1,XSAVEOPT cpu2: 32KB 64b/line 8-way D-cache, 32KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 2MB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache cpu2: smt 0, core 2, package 0 cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 3 (application processor) cpu3: AMD GX-412TC SOC, 998.31 MHz, 16-30-01, patch 07030105 cpu3: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,PCLMUL,MWAIT,SSSE3,CX16,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,MOVBE,POPCNT,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,CMPLEG,SVM,EAPICSP,AMCR8,ABM,SSE4A,MASSE,3DNOWP,OSVW,IBS,SKINIT,TOPEXT,DBKP,PERFTSC,PCTRL3,HWPSTATE,ITSC,BMI1,XSAVEOPT cpu3: 32KB 64b/line 8-way D-cache, 32KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 2MB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache cpu3: smt 0, core 3, package 0 ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 4 pa 0xfec0, version 21, 24 pins ioapic1 at mainbus0: apid 5 pa 0xfec2, version 21, 32 pins acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318180 Hz acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus -1 (PBR4) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 1 (PBR5) acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus -1 (PBR6) acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 2 (PBR7) acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (PBR8) acpicpu0 at acpi0: C2(0@400 io@0x1771), C1(@1 halt!), PSS acpicpu1 at acpi0: C2(0@400 io@0x1771), C1(@1 halt!), PSS acpicpu2 at acpi0: C2(0@400 io@0x1771), C1(@1 halt!), PSS acpicpu3 at acpi0: C2(0@400 io@0x1771), C1(@1 halt!), PSS acpicpu4 at acpi0: no cpu matching ACPI ID 4 acpicpu5 at acpi0: no cpu matching ACPI ID 5 acpicpu6 at acpi0: no cpu matching ACPI ID 6 acpicpu7 at acpi0: no cpu matching ACPI ID 7 acpipci0 at acpi0 PCI0: 0x 0x0011 0x0001 acpicmos0 at acpi0 com0 at acpi0 COM1 addr 0x3f8/0x8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo com0: console com1 at acpi0 COM2 addr 0x2f8/0x8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo amdgpio0 at acpi0 GPIO uid 0 addr 0xfed81500/0x300 irq 7, 184 pins "PRP0001" at acpi0 not configured "PRP0001" at acpi0 not
Re: Hardware recommendation for small form factor, noiseless, server
On Mon, May 06, 2024 at 09:03:17PM +0100, James Johnson wrote: > Hi all, > > can anyone please advise on what computer I can purchase with the following \ > requirements: > - fully supports OpenBSD > - no noise > - good quality wifi > - small form factor preferably > - processor does not need to be fast (no highly intensive compute load) > - low RAM need > - needs 1 TB of hard drive at least > - will be used only remotely, for basic and low-intensity server-type > applications \ > (no desktop use) > - under $500 > > Thanks! > James The recommendation on the OpenBSD Router Guide site works really well: https://openbsdrouterguide.net/#the-hardware There are several different models.
Re: Hardware recommendation for small form factor, noiseless, server
On Mon, May 06, 2024 at 09:03:17PM +0100, James Johnson wrote: > Hi all, > > can anyone please advise on what computer I can purchase with the following > requirements: > > - fully supports OpenBSD > - no noise > - good quality wifi > - small form factor preferably > - processor does not need to be fast (no highly intensive compute load) > - low RAM need > - needs 1 TB of hard drive at least > - will be used only remotely, for basic and low-intensity server-type > applications (no desktop use) > - under $500 > > Thanks! > James You can get a Fujistu Futro S920 with a quad-core AMD GX-424GC @2.4GHz, up to 8Gb RAM, for around €75. Models with a GX-222GC (dual-core @2.1GHz) or a GX-415GA (quad-core @1.5Ghz) go for even less. Stick a wifi card and a 2.5" disk in it, and bob's your uncle. I have one as (very) low traffic web + mail server, and another as a development machine running a VM with Alpine Linux hosting docker containers (which works better than I anticipated, honestly). dmesg for a model with a GX-222CG dual-core @2.2GHz (no wifi, though): OpenBSD 7.5 (GENERIC.MP) #82: Wed Mar 20 15:48:40 MDT 2024 dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP real mem = 8213266432 (7832MB) avail mem = 7943299072 (7575MB) random: good seed from bootblocks mpath0 at root scsibus0 at mpath0: 256 targets mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.8 @ 0xacfdc018 (55 entries) bios0: vendor FUJITSU // American Megatrends Inc. version "V4.6.5.4 R1.16.0 for D3313-G1x" date 08/13/2018 bios0: FUJITSU FUTRO S920 acpi0 at bios0: ACPI 5.0 acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC FPDT FIDT TCPA MCFG HPET SSDT SSDT SSDT SSDT SSDT acpi0: wakeup devices LAN1(S4) LAN2(S4) LAN3(S4) SBAZ(S4) EHC1(S4) EHC2(S4) EHC3(S4) XHC0(S4) GFX_(S3) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 32 bits acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: AMD GX-222GC SOC with Radeon(TM) R5E Graphics, 2196.02 MHz, 16-30-01, patch 07030106 cpu0: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,PCLMUL,MWAIT,SSSE3,CX16,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,MOVBE,POP CNT,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,CMPLEG,SVM,EAPICSP,AMCR8,ABM,SSE4A,MASSE,3DNOWP,OSVW,IBS,SKINIT,TOPEXT,DBKP,PERFTSC,PCTRL 3,HWPSTATE,ITSC,BMI1,IBPB,XSAVEOPT cpu0: 32KB 64b/line 8-way D-cache, 32KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 1MB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache cpu0: smt 0, core 0, package 0 mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support, 8 var ranges, 88 fixed ranges cpu0: apic clock running at 99MHz cpu0: mwait min=64, max=64, IBE cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor) cpu1: AMD GX-222GC SOC with Radeon(TM) R5E Graphics, 2196.05 MHz, 16-30-01, patch 07030106 cpu1: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,HTT,SSE3,PCLMUL,MWAIT,SSSE3,CX16,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,MOVBE,POP CNT,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,CMPLEG,SVM,EAPICSP,AMCR8,ABM,SSE4A,MASSE,3DNOWP,OSVW,IBS,SKINIT,TOPEXT,DBKP,PERFTSC,PCTRL 3,HWPSTATE,ITSC,BMI1,IBPB,XSAVEOPT cpu1: 32KB 64b/line 8-way D-cache, 32KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 1MB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache cpu1: smt 0, core 1, package 0 ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 3 pa 0xfec0, version 21, 24 pins ioapic1 at mainbus0: apid 4 pa 0xfec01000, version 21, 32 pins acpimcfg0 at acpi0 acpimcfg0: addr 0xe000, bus 0-255 acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318180 Hz acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 1 (GPP0) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus -1 (GPP1) acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus -1 (GPP2) acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (GPP3) acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (GFX_) acpipci0 at acpi0 PCI0: 0x 0x0011 0x0001 com0 at acpi0 UAR0 addr 0x3f8/0x8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo com0: console acpicmos0 at acpi0 com1 at acpi0 UAR1 addr 0x2f8/0x8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo "FUJ02E3" at acpi0 not configured acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB tpm0 at acpi0 TPM_ 1.2 (TIS) addr 0xfed4/0x5000, device 0x001a15d1 rev 0x10 acpicpu0 at acpi0: C2(0@400 io@0x414), C1(@1 halt!), PSS acpicpu1 at acpi0: C2(0@400 io@0x414), C1(@1 halt!), PSS acpivideo0 at acpi0: VGA_ acpivout0 at acpivideo0: LCD_ acpivideo1 at acpi0: VGA_ cpu0: 2196 MHz: speeds: 2200 2000 1800 1600 1400 1200 1000 MHz pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0 pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "AMD 16h Root Complex" rev 0x00 radeondrm0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 "ATI Mullins" rev 0x06 drm0 at radeondrm0 radeondrm0: msi azalia0 at pci0 dev 1 function 1 "ATI Radeon HD Audio" rev 0x00: msi azalia0: no supported codecs pchb1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "AMD 16h Host" rev 0x00 ppb0 at pci0 dev 2 function 2 "AMD 16h PCIE" rev 0x00: msi pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 re0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 "Realtek 8168" rev 0x0c: RTL8168G/8111G (0x4c00), msi, address 4c:52:62:11:13:ef rgephy0 at re0 phy 7: RTL8251 PHY, rev. 0 ccp0 at pci0 dev 8 function 0 "AMD 16h Crypto" rev 0x00 ahci0 at pci0 dev 17 function 0 "AMD Hudson-2 SATA" rev 0x40: msi, AHCI 1.3 ahci0: port 0:
Re: Hardware recommendation for small form factor, noiseless, server
I recently switched my RockPro64 over to OpenBSD and so far everything works nicely with it. I had trouble getting it to boot at first, but it was my fault for not fully reading the installation instructions[1], and assuming that I could simply `dd` the provided miniroot75.img to an SD card and boot. In fact you also have to write bootloader firmware to certain constant addresses on the SD card, depending on which board you use. I also would have been lost without a UART USB adapter. [1] https://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/7.5/arm64/INSTALL.arm64
Re: Hardware recommendation for small form factor, noiseless, server
For various values of 'fully supports', I have multiple odroid HC4 units, and they all run very well. I've booted them with OpenBSD to play with it, but inevitably switched back to Linux. No built-in WiFi, but it has a single USB socket that you could plug in a WiFi/Bluetooth dongle. -JD. > On May 6, 2024, at 4:03 PM, James Johnson wrote: > > Hi all, > > can anyone please advise on what computer I can purchase with the following > requirements: > > - fully supports OpenBSD > - no noise > - good quality wifi > - small form factor preferably > - processor does not need to be fast (no highly intensive compute load) > - low RAM need > - needs 1 TB of hard drive at least > - will be used only remotely, for basic and low-intensity server-type > applications (no desktop use) > - under $500 > > Thanks! > James
Hardware recommendation for small form factor, noiseless, server
Hi all, can anyone please advise on what computer I can purchase with the following requirements: - fully supports OpenBSD - no noise - good quality wifi - small form factor preferably - processor does not need to be fast (no highly intensive compute load) - low RAM need - needs 1 TB of hard drive at least - will be used only remotely, for basic and low-intensity server-type applications (no desktop use) - under $500 Thanks! James
