Open source SD card utilities?

2016-03-01 Thread Alan Corey
They aren't hard drives, it's a whole different process.  They work
superficially the same because that's a layer designed on.  If you go
to sdcard.org there are technical specifications and formatters for
Windows and Mac, like that's the whole world.

I've seen formatting with hard disk tools work, I've also had better
luck formatting in cameras or phones.  And many times scanning for bad
 blocks causes a hard crash of the whole computer.  I've got about 3
USB memory sticks here about 10 years old that I don't dare to scan
again.  But that in itself is odd, that for 10 years we haven't come
up with a better approach.  There are hundreds of pages of PDFs on how
they work at http://www.sdcard.org but there seem to be limitations on
how you can use that information.  Like that .org maybe should have
been a .com or .biz  Despicable.

But as we enter an era of solid state drives having proper utilities
becomes more important.  And many of us experiment with rooted phones
with Linux on SD cards, and small single board computers like the
Raspberry Pi, Beagleboard, etc. using SD cards instead of hard drives.

You have to accept this disclaimer before you can download their PDFs:
The information contained in the Simplified Specifications are
presented only as a standard specification for SD cards and SD
host/ancillary products and is provided "AS-IS" without any
representations or warranties of any kind. No responsibility is
assumed by the SD Group, SD-3C, LLC or the SD Card Association for any
damages, any infringements of patents or other right of the SD Group,
SD-3C, LLC, the SD Card Association or any third parties, which may
result from there use or any portion there of. No license is granted
by implication, estoppel or otherwise under any patent or other rights
of the SD Group, SD-3C, LLC, the SD Card Association or any third
party. Nothing herein shall be construed as an obligation by the SD
Group, the SD-3C, LLC or the SD Card Association to disclose or
distribute any technical information, know-how or other confidential
information to any third party.

Ooops, I probably broke some law by posting that. :)  I was never
interested in law school.

-- 
Credit is the root of all evil.  - AB1JX



Re: Open source SD card utilities?

2016-03-01 Thread Mike Larkin
On Tue, Mar 01, 2016 at 01:11:52PM -0500, Alan Corey wrote:
> They aren't hard drives, it's a whole different process.  They work
> superficially the same because that's a layer designed on.  If you go
> to sdcard.org there are technical specifications and formatters for
> Windows and Mac, like that's the whole world.
> 
> I've seen formatting with hard disk tools work, I've also had better
> luck formatting in cameras or phones.  And many times scanning for bad
>  blocks causes a hard crash of the whole computer.  I've got about 3
> USB memory sticks here about 10 years old that I don't dare to scan
> again.  But that in itself is odd, that for 10 years we haven't come
> up with a better approach.  There are hundreds of pages of PDFs on how
> they work at http://www.sdcard.org but there seem to be limitations on
> how you can use that information.  Like that .org maybe should have
> been a .com or .biz  Despicable.
> 
> But as we enter an era of solid state drives having proper utilities
> becomes more important.  And many of us experiment with rooted phones
> with Linux on SD cards, and small single board computers like the
> Raspberry Pi, Beagleboard, etc. using SD cards instead of hard drives.
> 
> You have to accept this disclaimer before you can download their PDFs:
> The information contained in the Simplified Specifications are
> presented only as a standard specification for SD cards and SD
> host/ancillary products and is provided "AS-IS" without any
> representations or warranties of any kind. No responsibility is
> assumed by the SD Group, SD-3C, LLC or the SD Card Association for any
> damages, any infringements of patents or other right of the SD Group,
> SD-3C, LLC, the SD Card Association or any third parties, which may
> result from there use or any portion there of. No license is granted
> by implication, estoppel or otherwise under any patent or other rights
> of the SD Group, SD-3C, LLC, the SD Card Association or any third
> party. Nothing herein shall be construed as an obligation by the SD
> Group, the SD-3C, LLC or the SD Card Association to disclose or
> distribute any technical information, know-how or other confidential
> information to any third party.
> 
> Ooops, I probably broke some law by posting that. :)  I was never
> interested in law school.
> 
> -- 
> Credit is the root of all evil.  - AB1JX
> 

This has nothing to do with OpenBSD. Please keep this trash off the
list.

-ml