Re: OpenBSD in Rock Band 3
On Wed, 15 Dec 2010, Daniel B. wrote: On Wed, 8 Dec 2010, Marco Peereboom wrote: So you suggest they should continue to break the law? Thinking on how things are actually done today, they are obviously wrong, but at least then mentioned OpenBSD. * not then, it's they
Re: OpenBSD in Rock Band 3
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010, Marco Peereboom wrote: So you suggest they should continue to break the law? Thinking on how things are actually done today, they are obviously wrong, but at least then mentioned OpenBSD.
Re: OpenBSD in Rock Band 3
My guess would be strlcpy() and/or friends, but IIRC that's millert@'s copyright. Time to get a lawyer, Todd! On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Ted Unangst ted.unan...@gmail.com wrote: That's a little strange, because I don't think there is any code anywhere copyrighted by OpenBSD. All the code is copyright by the individual contributors. On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Doug Clements dcleme...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim jfs.wo...@gmail.com wrote: :) well, possible to sit through those again? This time, prepare your camera. :) Here's the best I got: http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?5bec65cccf.jpg - SGI http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?29f575c27e.jpg - Rgindael/AES http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?80e8f1270b.jpg - Mark Borgerding http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?7b8ba7a5c6.jpg - Simon Brown http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?3bd1000b8f.jpg - RSA/MD5 http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?be87682cdd.jpg - OpenBSD http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?2b516d12eb.jpg - Nvidia Not much info there, so it's hard for me to speculate. --Doug
Re: OpenBSD in Rock Band 3
Yeah they took a shortcut. No good. They have to list *every* individual copyright message from every file they use. Someone should point that out to them. On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 05:55:33PM -0500, Ted Unangst wrote: That's a little strange, because I don't think there is any code anywhere copyrighted by OpenBSD. All the code is copyright by the individual contributors. On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Doug Clements dcleme...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim jfs.wo...@gmail.com wrote: :) well, possible to sit through those again? This time, prepare your camera. :) Here's the best I got: http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?5bec65cccf.jpg - SGI http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?29f575c27e.jpg - Rgindael/AES http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?80e8f1270b.jpg - Mark Borgerding http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?7b8ba7a5c6.jpg - Simon Brown http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?3bd1000b8f.jpg - RSA/MD5 http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?be87682cdd.jpg - OpenBSD http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?2b516d12eb.jpg - Nvidia Not much info there, so it's hard for me to speculate. --Doug
Re: OpenBSD in Rock Band 3
I'm sure they'll recall all the CD's and reprint them. -- Jeremy Chase http://twitter.com/jeremychase On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 4:46 AM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote: Yeah they took a shortcut. B No good. They have to list *every* individual copyright message from every file they use. B Someone should point that out to them. On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 05:55:33PM -0500, Ted Unangst wrote: That's a little strange, because I don't think there is any code anywhere copyrighted by OpenBSD. B All the code is copyright by the individual contributors. On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Doug Clements dcleme...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim jfs.wo...@gmail.com wrote: :) well, possible to sit through those again? This time, prepare your camera. :) Here's the best I got: http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?5bec65cccf.jpg - SGI http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?29f575c27e.jpg - Rgindael/AES http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?80e8f1270b.jpg - Mark Borgerding http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?7b8ba7a5c6.jpg - Simon Brown http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?3bd1000b8f.jpg - RSA/MD5 http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?be87682cdd.jpg - OpenBSD http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?2b516d12eb.jpg - Nvidia Not much info there, so it's hard for me to speculate. --Doug
Re: OpenBSD in Rock Band 3
Doubtful, but with the magic of over-the-air updates these days, it should be a simple patch given sufficient motivation on their part. --Doug On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Jeremy Chase jeremych...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure they'll recall all the CD's and reprint them.
Re: OpenBSD in Rock Band 3
So you suggest they should continue to break the law? On Wed, Dec 08, 2010 at 10:38:10AM -0500, Jeremy Chase wrote: I'm sure they'll recall all the CD's and reprint them. -- Jeremy Chase http://twitter.com/jeremychase On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 4:46 AM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote: Yeah they took a shortcut. B No good. They have to list *every* individual copyright message from every file they use. B Someone should point that out to them. On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 05:55:33PM -0500, Ted Unangst wrote: That's a little strange, because I don't think there is any code anywhere copyrighted by OpenBSD. B All the code is copyright by the individual contributors. On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Doug Clements dcleme...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim jfs.wo...@gmail.com wrote: :) well, possible to sit through those again? This time, prepare your camera. :) Here's the best I got: http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?5bec65cccf.jpg - SGI http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?29f575c27e.jpg - Rgindael/AES http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?80e8f1270b.jpg - Mark Borgerding http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?7b8ba7a5c6.jpg - Simon Brown http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?3bd1000b8f.jpg - RSA/MD5 http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?be87682cdd.jpg - OpenBSD http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?2b516d12eb.jpg - Nvidia Not much info there, so it's hard for me to speculate. --Doug
Re: OpenBSD in Rock Band 3
I'm fairly certain that he's suggesting that they *will* continue to break the law, not that they *should* do so. / It's like Wikileaks *accepting* brown envelopes, but not *soliciting* them. // Actually, it's nothing like that. /// Other than being a semantic difference with significant legal ramifications. /// Too many slashies; going to bed now. On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote: So you suggest they should continue to break the law? On Wed, Dec 08, 2010 at 10:38:10AM -0500, Jeremy Chase wrote: I'm sure they'll recall all the CD's and reprint them. -- Jeremy Chase http://twitter.com/jeremychase On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 4:46 AM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote: Yeah they took a shortcut. B No good. They have to list *every* individual copyright message from every file they use. B Someone should point that out to them. On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 05:55:33PM -0500, Ted Unangst wrote: That's a little strange, because I don't think there is any code anywhere copyrighted by OpenBSD. B All the code is copyright by the individual contributors. On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Doug Clements dcleme...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim jfs.wo...@gmail.com wrote: :) well, possible to sit through those again? This time, prepare your camera. :) Here's the best I got: http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?5bec65cccf.jpg - SGI http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?29f575c27e.jpg - Rgindael/AES http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?80e8f1270b.jpg - Mark Borgerding http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?7b8ba7a5c6.jpg - Simon Brown http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?3bd1000b8f.jpg - RSA/MD5 http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?be87682cdd.jpg - OpenBSD http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?2b516d12eb.jpg - Nvidia Not much info there, so it's hard for me to speculate. --Doug
Re: OpenBSD in Rock Band 3
Exactly. MTV couldn't care less. -- Jeremy Chase http://twitter.com/jeremychase On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Marti Martinez ma...@ece.arizona.edu wrote: I'm fairly certain that he's suggesting that they *will* continue to break the law, not that they *should* do so. / It's like Wikileaks *accepting* brown envelopes, but not *soliciting* them. // Actually, it's nothing like that. /// Other than being a semantic difference with significant legal ramifications. /// Too many slashies; going to bed now. On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote: So you suggest they should continue to break the law? On Wed, Dec 08, 2010 at 10:38:10AM -0500, Jeremy Chase wrote: I'm sure they'll recall all the CD's and reprint them. -- Jeremy Chase http://twitter.com/jeremychase On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 4:46 AM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote: Yeah they took a shortcut. B No good. They have to list *every* individual copyright message from every file they use. B Someone should point that out to them. On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 05:55:33PM -0500, Ted Unangst wrote: That's a little strange, because I don't think there is any code anywhere copyrighted by OpenBSD. B All the code is copyright by the individual contributors. On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Doug Clements dcleme...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim jfs.wo...@gmail.com wrote: :) well, possible to sit through those again? This time, prepare your camera. :) Here's the best I got: http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?5bec65cccf.jpg - SGI http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?29f575c27e.jpg - Rgindael/AES http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?80e8f1270b.jpg - Mark Borgerding http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?7b8ba7a5c6.jpg - Simon Brown http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?3bd1000b8f.jpg - RSA/MD5 http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?be87682cdd.jpg - OpenBSD http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?2b516d12eb.jpg - Nvidia Not much info there, so it's hard for me to speculate. --Doug
Re: OpenBSD in Rock Band 3
Ugh, people, Marco was joking. No one is breaking the law. On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 14:58 -0500, Jeremy Chase jeremych...@gmail.com wrote: Exactly. MTV couldn't care less. -- Jeremy Chase http://twitter.com/jeremychase On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Marti Martinez ma...@ece.arizona.edu wrote: I'm fairly certain that he's suggesting that they *will* continue to break the law, not that they *should* do so. / It's like Wikileaks *accepting* brown envelopes, but not *soliciting* them. // Actually, it's nothing like that. /// Other than being a semantic difference with significant legal ramifications. /// Too many slashies; going to bed now. On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote: So you suggest they should continue to break the law? On Wed, Dec 08, 2010 at 10:38:10AM -0500, Jeremy Chase wrote: I'm sure they'll recall all the CD's and reprint them. -- Jeremy Chase http://twitter.com/jeremychase On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 4:46 AM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote: Yeah they took a shortcut. B No good. They have to list *every* individual copyright message from every file they use. B Someone should point that out to them. On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 05:55:33PM -0500, Ted Unangst wrote: That's a little strange, because I don't think there is any code anywhere copyrighted by OpenBSD. B All the code is copyright by the individual contributors. On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Doug Clements dcleme...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim jfs.wo...@gmail.com wrote: :) well, possible to sit through those again? This time, prepare your camera. :) Here's the best I got: http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?5bec65cccf.jpg - SGI http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?29f575c27e.jpg - Rgindael/AES http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?80e8f1270b.jpg - Mark Borgerding http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?7b8ba7a5c6.jpg - Simon Brown http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?3bd1000b8f.jpg - RSA/MD5 http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?be87682cdd.jpg - OpenBSD http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?2b516d12eb.jpg - Nvidia Not much info there, so it's hard for me to speculate. --Doug
Re: OpenBSD in Rock Band 3
On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 07:38:10PM -0500, Doug Clements wrote: Misc, I sat through the ending credits of Rock Band 3 for the PS3 tonight, and I saw a license inclusion from OpenBSD. I'm guessing they lifted some bit of code and used it in the game. Does anyone have any idea what portion it might have been? There were also license notifications for AES, MD5, and RSA. I'm guessing these were probably for making sure online play integrity is assured, but I'm curious of those as well. --Doug Aw, I read the subject and thought that some openbsd release songs had made it in..
Re: OpenBSD in Rock Band 3
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Josh Rickmar joshua_rick...@eumx.net wrote: Aw, I read the subject and thought that some openbsd release songs had made it in.. Me too! That would've been awesome!
Re: OpenBSD in Rock Band 3
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim jfs.wo...@gmail.com wrote: :) well, possible to sit through those again? This time, prepare your camera. :) Here's the best I got: http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?5bec65cccf.jpg - SGI http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?29f575c27e.jpg - Rgindael/AES http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?80e8f1270b.jpg - Mark Borgerding http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?7b8ba7a5c6.jpg - Simon Brown http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?3bd1000b8f.jpg - RSA/MD5 http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?be87682cdd.jpg - OpenBSD http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?2b516d12eb.jpg - Nvidia Not much info there, so it's hard for me to speculate. --Doug
Re: OpenBSD in Rock Band 3
That's a little strange, because I don't think there is any code anywhere copyrighted by OpenBSD. All the code is copyright by the individual contributors. On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Doug Clements dcleme...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim jfs.wo...@gmail.com wrote: :) well, possible to sit through those again? This time, prepare your camera. :) Here's the best I got: http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?5bec65cccf.jpg - SGI http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?29f575c27e.jpg - Rgindael/AES http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?80e8f1270b.jpg - Mark Borgerding http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?7b8ba7a5c6.jpg - Simon Brown http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?3bd1000b8f.jpg - RSA/MD5 http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?be87682cdd.jpg - OpenBSD http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?2b516d12eb.jpg - Nvidia Not much info there, so it's hard for me to speculate. --Doug
OpenBSD in Rock Band 3
Misc, I sat through the ending credits of Rock Band 3 for the PS3 tonight, and I saw a license inclusion from OpenBSD. I'm guessing they lifted some bit of code and used it in the game. Does anyone have any idea what portion it might have been? There were also license notifications for AES, MD5, and RSA. I'm guessing these were probably for making sure online play integrity is assured, but I'm curious of those as well. --Doug
Re: OpenBSD in Rock Band 3
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Doug Clements dcleme...@gmail.com wrote: Misc, I sat through the ending credits of Rock Band 3 for the PS3 tonight, and I saw a license inclusion from OpenBSD. I'm guessing they lifted some bit of code and used it in the game. Does anyone have any idea what portion it might have been? :) well, possible to sit through those again? This time, prepare your camera. :) -jf There were also license notifications for AES, MD5, and RSA. I'm guessing these were probably for making sure online play integrity is assured, but I'm curious of those as well. --Doug
