Re: Printing to Windows

2009-05-25 Thread Stefan Unterweger
* Ed Ahlsen-Girard on Mon, May 25, 2009 at 07:43:51AM -0500:
>  > The best answer is simply buy a good quality, postscript, network
>  > enabled printer.

> That might be an option once I have a job again, but even then
> space considerations will weigh heavily.  This is at home.

If it is at home, then I'd seriously suggest that you'd use LPD
on Windows. This way, at least the connection from your OpenBSD
box to the spooler is not cluttered by a myriad of byzantine
protocols (especially of all things SMB and CUPS...), and you can
concentrate on finding a way to convert your jobs to a format the
printer understands (and the setup stays *much* simpler and thus
much easier to debug should problems arise someday).

Last time I did it, setting up LPD on Windows was almost a
no-brainer, and the correspinging printcap was straightforward
and worked out of the box at the first try.

As for the "printer driver" (for lack of a better term), you
might want to take a look at http://openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi?make=HP
for your specific OfficeJet. On a cursory look, it seems as if
the OfficeJets are quite well supported by a number of different
ways, so it should be relatively easy to e.g. plug a filter
programme into printcap.

I believe I have a few OfficeJets around at work; if I find the
time I will experiment a little bit with them.


s//un



Re: Printing to Windows

2009-05-25 Thread Ed Ahlsen-Girard
On Mon, 25 May 2009 01:53 -0500 J. C. Roberts wrote:

 > On Sun, 24 May 2009 23:39:17 -0400  wrote:
 >
 > > > If anyone is printing successfully to an OfficeJet served on an XP
 > > > box from OBSD 4.4 or later, I'd sure appreciate knowing how you 
do it.
 >
 > The best answer is simply buy a good quality, postscript, network
 > enabled printer.

That might be an option once I have a job again, but even then space 
considerations will weigh heavily.  This is at home.

 >
 > The second best answer is CUPS.
 >
 > You're attempting the worst possible answer, namely printing through
 > MS-windows. I haven't ever tried it myself, but I'd bet if it is
 > possible, then you'll be doing it through samba (in ports) and possibly
 > CUPS (in ports).
 >
 > NOTE: There were a handful of commits to ports-changes@ in the last
 > week or two regarding samba and cups, so you might want to try
 > installing -current through a snapshot, and building the needed
 > printing related ports yourself.
 >
 > -- J.C. Roberts

I will check those out.  Previous attempts with samba and cups would 
allow things like printing straight text only.

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Re: Printing to Windows -- waste

2009-05-25 Thread Lars Nooden
> If anyone is printing successfully to an OfficeJet served on
> an XP  box ...

I find, after asking over a dozen such admins over the last two years,
that the admins who take care of such boxes can't give connecton
information at all.

One work-around is to fire up tcpdump, with regex limiters if you wish,
carry the computer over to the printer and plug it in directly.  Use a
patch cable if necessary.  That will tell you the IP number to use for
that particular session and then use jetdirect for printing.

-Lars



Re: Printing to Windows

2009-05-25 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 08:27:20AM +0200, nils.reuv...@sparkholland.com wrote:
> It would require Samba and Cups.

not necesarily.  Windows XP has an LPD.

http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/features/techtips/lpd_print_solaris.html

is the first result from googling "windows lpd".

> 
> Read more here
> http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Debian-and-Windows-Shared-Printing.html
> 
> Should give you a headstart.
> 
> Nils
> 
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> Subject: Printing to Windows
> 
> If anyone is printing successfully to an OfficeJet served on an XP box from
> OBSD 4.4 or later, I'd sure appreciate knowing how you do it.
> 
> --
> Ed Ahlsen-Girard
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Re: Printing to Windows

2009-05-25 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
On Sun, 24 May 2009, J.C. Roberts wrote:

> On Sun, 24 May 2009 23:39:17 -0400  wrote:
> 
> > If anyone is printing successfully to an OfficeJet served on an XP
> > box from OBSD 4.4 or later, I'd sure appreciate knowing how you do it.
> 
> The best answer is simply buy a good quality, postscript, network
> enabled printer.
> 
> The second best answer is CUPS.

IIRC, if you want to share a windows printer, you can enable LPD.


-- 
Antoine



Re: Printing to Windows

2009-05-24 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Sun, 24 May 2009 23:39:17 -0400  wrote:

> If anyone is printing successfully to an OfficeJet served on an XP
> box from OBSD 4.4 or later, I'd sure appreciate knowing how you do it.

The best answer is simply buy a good quality, postscript, network
enabled printer.

The second best answer is CUPS.

You're attempting the worst possible answer, namely printing through
MS-windows. I haven't ever tried it myself, but I'd bet if it is
possible, then you'll be doing it through samba (in ports) and possibly
CUPS (in ports).

NOTE: There were a handful of commits to ports-changes@ in the last
week or two regarding samba and cups, so you might want to try
installing -current through a snapshot, and building the needed
printing related ports yourself.

-- 
J.C. Roberts



Re: Printing to Windows

2009-05-24 Thread Nils.Reuvers
It would require Samba and Cups.

Read more here
http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Debian-and-Windows-Shared-Printing.html

Should give you a headstart.

Nils

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Subject: Printing to Windows

If anyone is printing successfully to an OfficeJet served on an XP box from
OBSD 4.4 or later, I'd sure appreciate knowing how you do it.

--
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Ft. Walton Beach FL


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Printing to Windows

2009-05-24 Thread eagirard
If anyone is printing successfully to an OfficeJet served on an XP box from 
OBSD 4.4 or later, I'd sure appreciate knowing how you do it.

--
Ed Ahlsen-Girard
Ft. Walton Beach FL