Problems installing OpenBSD-4.3 using bsd.rd
Hello I'm currently trying to install OpenBSD-4.3 on my subnotebook (JVC MP-XP3), the problem is that it doesn't have any CD-ROM and/or floppy drive and it isn't capable of booting using PXE nor booting from USB-HDD. (Already checked that) I read in the FAQ that there's a possibility to install OpenBSD from harddisk through bsd.rd, so I downloaded the latest (4.3-RELEASE) bsd.rd, put it on a small separate partition in a directory named /boot, modified the Grub menu and tried to boot that. It didn't work out, here's what I get: panic: /boot too old: upgrade! The operating system has halted. Please press any key to reboot After this I thought that maybe bsd.rd needs some other files which it expects to be usually found in /boot. So I downloaded cd43.iso, extracted its contents to /boot and retried. Still the same problem. Following to that I also tried with install43.iso, same procedure, but the problem remains. The Grub menu entry I used for the 2nd and 3rd try: root (hd0,3) kernel --openbsd=openbsd /boot/4.3/i386/bsd.rd In the FAQ, section 4.11 it says: [0] ... if you have a running older version of OpenBSD, ... Does this probably mean that the install method with bsd.rd is only possible if there's already an OpenBSD system existing on the harddisk? If that's correct, is there any other suitable installation method using a install-image on a harddisk? Currently I don't have any more ideas, beside the following: I could install OpenBSD on an other (totally different) computer using the standard CD-ROM install method, after that I'd copy the hole system to an USB-HDD which in turn I would plug to my subnotebook. There I'd copy the hole system to a temporary partition, download the latest (4.3) bsd.rd again, edit the Grub menu and retry to boot the bsd.rd. I already searched the web for other installing methods suitable for my case and searched further if there's a possibility of directly booting .iso images using Grub but couldn't find anything useful. Suggestions most welcome Thanks, ~fc [0] http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#bsd.rd
Re: Problems installing OpenBSD-4.3 using bsd.rd
use a usb floppy. On 5/25/08, F. Caulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello I'm currently trying to install OpenBSD-4.3 on my subnotebook (JVC MP-XP3), the problem is that it doesn't have any CD-ROM and/or floppy drive and it isn't capable of booting using PXE nor booting from USB-HDD. (Already checked that) I read in the FAQ that there's a possibility to install OpenBSD from harddisk through bsd.rd, so I downloaded the latest (4.3-RELEASE) bsd.rd, put it on a small separate partition in a directory named /boot, modified the Grub menu and tried to boot that. It didn't work out, here's what I get: panic: /boot too old: upgrade! The operating system has halted. Please press any key to reboot After this I thought that maybe bsd.rd needs some other files which it expects to be usually found in /boot. So I downloaded cd43.iso, extracted its contents to /boot and retried. Still the same problem. Following to that I also tried with install43.iso, same procedure, but the problem remains. The Grub menu entry I used for the 2nd and 3rd try: root (hd0,3) kernel --openbsd=openbsd /boot/4.3/i386/bsd.rd In the FAQ, section 4.11 it says: [0] ... if you have a running older version of OpenBSD, ... Does this probably mean that the install method with bsd.rd is only possible if there's already an OpenBSD system existing on the harddisk? If that's correct, is there any other suitable installation method using a install-image on a harddisk? Currently I don't have any more ideas, beside the following: I could install OpenBSD on an other (totally different) computer using the standard CD-ROM install method, after that I'd copy the hole system to an USB-HDD which in turn I would plug to my subnotebook. There I'd copy the hole system to a temporary partition, download the latest (4.3) bsd.rd again, edit the Grub menu and retry to boot the bsd.rd. I already searched the web for other installing methods suitable for my case and searched further if there's a possibility of directly booting .iso images using Grub but couldn't find anything useful. Suggestions most welcome Thanks, ~fc [0] http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#bsd.rd
Re: Problems installing OpenBSD-4.3 using bsd.rd
F. Caulier wrote: ... I read in the FAQ that there's a possibility to install OpenBSD from harddisk through bsd.rd, so I downloaded the latest (4.3-RELEASE) bsd.rd, put it on a small separate partition in a directory named /boot, modified the Grub menu and tried to boot that. It didn't work out, here's what I get: panic: /boot too old: upgrade! yep, GRUB doesn't know how to load OpenBSD. It may have once, but apparently no one has maintained that. The operating system has halted. Please press any key to reboot [snip] In the FAQ, section 4.11 it says: [0] ... if you have a running older version of OpenBSD, ... Does this probably mean that the install method with bsd.rd is only possible if there's already an OpenBSD system existing on the harddisk? yep. You put it on the OpenBSD partition and use the OpenBSD boot loader to load it instead of the normal kernel. If that's correct, is there any other suitable installation method using a install-image on a harddisk? Currently I don't have any more ideas, beside the following: I could install OpenBSD on an other (totally different) computer using the standard CD-ROM install method, after that I'd copy the hole system to an USB-HDD which in turn I would plug to my subnotebook. There I'd copy the hole system to a temporary partition, download the latest (4.3) bsd.rd again, edit the Grub menu and retry to boot the bsd.rd. oh, the pain. Hint: grub is not an answer to your question. The people who write grub don't care much about OpenBSD, and OpenBSD developers don't have a lot of use for GRUB. Anything it can do, we can do other ways better and easier. As far as booting OpenBSD, all grub can do is replace a 500 byte program...with clumsy monster. People sometimes ask questions like this, usually posing it as if it were OpenBSD that is not installable on the system...yet, as you describe it, from a blank disk, no OS would be. Obviously, that's not the case, so the first guide you should use is how would I install the intended OS on this system? Odds are, OpenBSD installs in the exact same way. However, assuming something like with a special external CDROM drive I don't own, and am not willing to spend the money to get, I'd just pull the disk out of this machine, plug it (with appropriate adapters) into whatever else you have that is self-sufficient, and install there, and move the disk back to the laptop. OpenBSD (with minor tweaking for the network adapter) will then Just Work. (not true of the intended OS, and possibly not going to work with the OS GRUB was intended for, either). Note: you could probably even use an external USB enclosure attached to a machine that can't even boot from USB (load, yes. Test, no). IF you happen to have a 3Com network adapter in that thing, 3Com has a PXE boot floppy available, which can turn almost any 3Com network adapter into a PXE device. 'Course, once you get it to boot off a floppy, might as well just do as Ted suggested and install OpenBSD from that... Nick.
