Re: 5.8 EOL

2016-12-03 Thread Alessandro Baggi

Il 02/12/2016 23:30, Erling Westenvik ha scritto:

On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 02:43:01PM +0100, Alessandro Baggi wrote:

Il 02/12/2016 00:47, OpenBSD lists ha scritto:

Alessandro Baggi wrote:

Il 01/12/2016 17:01, Marko Cupać ha scritto:

On Thu, 1 Dec 2016 15:59:41 +0100
Alessandro Baggi  wrote:


Hi list,
I've installed some years ago OpenBSD 5.8 on apu with 3 nics.
I've tried to search but no look. What is the EOL for OpenBSD 5.8?

Thanks in advance.



https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Flavors

AFAIK Once 6.0 is out, 5.8 becomes unsupported (EOS). But it by no means
its life ends (EOL). I have just upgraded 2 boxes that were at 5.5,
but were quite alive and kicking :)

--
Before enlightenment - chop wood, draw water.
After  enlightenment - chop wood, draw water.

Marko Cupać
https://www.mimar.rs/



Then, when 6.1 will be released,

Somewhere between March and May of next year.  Depends on when the code
is in a releasable state.


5.9 will become unsupported.

Yep, it won't be getting patches anymore.


How do you provide to security patch for 5.5?

We don't.  Supporting a release that old would require quite a lot more
volunteers to back-port and test every patch that would apply and we'd
rather not waste resources on supporting the old stuff and use our time
to move the project forward.  Upgrading is painless and major changes
are very rare, so I can't think of any compelling reasons to stay on an
old version (well, unless it is the last version your platform supports)



Thanks to all for your answer.

It's time to upgrade.


Please take note of the upgrade guides in the FAQ and upgrade one
version at a time, first from 5.8 to 5.9, then from 5.9 to 6.0 -- NOT
directly from 5.8 to 6.0. The upgrade guides can be found here:

http://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade59.html
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade60.html

Be sure to read both guides carefully. There may be files that
needs to be removed manually, and services that may require
configuration.

Have fun! :)


Thank you Erling for suggestions.



Re: 5.8 EOL

2016-12-02 Thread Erling Westenvik
On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 02:43:01PM +0100, Alessandro Baggi wrote:
> Il 02/12/2016 00:47, OpenBSD lists ha scritto:
> > Alessandro Baggi wrote:
> > > Il 01/12/2016 17:01, Marko Cupać ha scritto:
> > > > On Thu, 1 Dec 2016 15:59:41 +0100
> > > > Alessandro Baggi  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Hi list,
> > > > > I've installed some years ago OpenBSD 5.8 on apu with 3 nics.
> > > > > I've tried to search but no look. What is the EOL for OpenBSD 5.8?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Flavors
> > > > 
> > > > AFAIK Once 6.0 is out, 5.8 becomes unsupported (EOS). But it by no means
> > > > its life ends (EOL). I have just upgraded 2 boxes that were at 5.5,
> > > > but were quite alive and kicking :)
> > > > 
> > > > --
> > > > Before enlightenment - chop wood, draw water.
> > > > After  enlightenment - chop wood, draw water.
> > > > 
> > > > Marko Cupać
> > > > https://www.mimar.rs/
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > Then, when 6.1 will be released,
> > Somewhere between March and May of next year.  Depends on when the code
> > is in a releasable state.
> > 
> > > 5.9 will become unsupported.
> > Yep, it won't be getting patches anymore.
> > 
> > > How do you provide to security patch for 5.5?
> > We don't.  Supporting a release that old would require quite a lot more
> > volunteers to back-port and test every patch that would apply and we'd
> > rather not waste resources on supporting the old stuff and use our time
> > to move the project forward.  Upgrading is painless and major changes
> > are very rare, so I can't think of any compelling reasons to stay on an
> > old version (well, unless it is the last version your platform supports)
> > 
> > 
> Thanks to all for your answer.
> 
> It's time to upgrade.

Please take note of the upgrade guides in the FAQ and upgrade one
version at a time, first from 5.8 to 5.9, then from 5.9 to 6.0 -- NOT
directly from 5.8 to 6.0. The upgrade guides can be found here:

http://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade59.html
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade60.html

Be sure to read both guides carefully. There may be files that
needs to be removed manually, and services that may require
configuration. 

Have fun! :)

-- 
Erling Westenvik



Re: 5.8 EOL

2016-12-02 Thread Alessandro Baggi

Il 02/12/2016 00:47, OpenBSD lists ha scritto:

Alessandro Baggi wrote:

Il 01/12/2016 17:01, Marko Cupać ha scritto:

On Thu, 1 Dec 2016 15:59:41 +0100
Alessandro Baggi  wrote:


Hi list,
I've installed some years ago OpenBSD 5.8 on apu with 3 nics.
I've tried to search but no look. What is the EOL for OpenBSD 5.8?

Thanks in advance.



https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Flavors

AFAIK Once 6.0 is out, 5.8 becomes unsupported (EOS). But it by no means
its life ends (EOL). I have just upgraded 2 boxes that were at 5.5,
but were quite alive and kicking :)

--
Before enlightenment - chop wood, draw water.
After  enlightenment - chop wood, draw water.

Marko Cupać
https://www.mimar.rs/



Then, when 6.1 will be released,

Somewhere between March and May of next year.  Depends on when the code
is in a releasable state.


5.9 will become unsupported.

Yep, it won't be getting patches anymore.


How do you provide to security patch for 5.5?

We don't.  Supporting a release that old would require quite a lot more
volunteers to back-port and test every patch that would apply and we'd
rather not waste resources on supporting the old stuff and use our time
to move the project forward.  Upgrading is painless and major changes
are very rare, so I can't think of any compelling reasons to stay on an
old version (well, unless it is the last version your platform supports)





Thanks to all for your answer.

It's time to upgrade.

Best regards.



Re: 5.8 EOL

2016-12-01 Thread OpenBSD lists

Alessandro Baggi wrote:

Il 01/12/2016 17:01, Marko Cupać ha scritto:

On Thu, 1 Dec 2016 15:59:41 +0100
Alessandro Baggi  wrote:


Hi list,
I've installed some years ago OpenBSD 5.8 on apu with 3 nics.
I've tried to search but no look. What is the EOL for OpenBSD 5.8?

Thanks in advance.



https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Flavors

AFAIK Once 6.0 is out, 5.8 becomes unsupported (EOS). But it by no means
its life ends (EOL). I have just upgraded 2 boxes that were at 5.5,
but were quite alive and kicking :)

--
Before enlightenment - chop wood, draw water.
After  enlightenment - chop wood, draw water.

Marko Cupać
https://www.mimar.rs/



Then, when 6.1 will be released,
Somewhere between March and May of next year.  Depends on when the code 
is in a releasable state.



5.9 will become unsupported.

Yep, it won't be getting patches anymore.


How do you provide to security patch for 5.5?
We don't.  Supporting a release that old would require quite a lot more 
volunteers to back-port and test every patch that would apply and we'd 
rather not waste resources on supporting the old stuff and use our time 
to move the project forward.  Upgrading is painless and major changes 
are very rare, so I can't think of any compelling reasons to stay on an 
old version (well, unless it is the last version your platform supports)




Re: 5.8 EOL

2016-12-01 Thread OpenBSD lists

Alessandro Baggi wrote:

Hi list,
I've installed some years ago OpenBSD 5.8 on apu with 3 nics.
I've tried to search but no look. What is the EOL for OpenBSD 5.8?

Thanks in advance.



1 September 2016 when 6.0 was released.  The only support versions are 
the current and the immediately previous.


I'd recommend upgrading to 6.0 anyway, a lot of drivers for the AMD APUs 
were added/updated between 18 October 2015 when 5.8 was released and 
now.  Mostly newer graphics chips and USB 3.0 XHCI support.  Helped with 
some issues on an A6-5200 based system I use as my backup desktop box.


-Christopher Ahrens



Re: 5.8 EOL

2016-12-01 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2016-12-01, Alessandro Baggi  wrote:
> How do you provide to security patch for 5.5?

Patches to 5.5 are provided in the form of an upgrade to a current supported 
release.



Re: 5.8 EOL

2016-12-01 Thread Johan Mellberg
Skickat från min "enhet" :-)
> 1 dec. 2016 kl. 15:59 skrev Alessandro Baggi :
>
> Hi list,
> I've installed some years ago OpenBSD 5.8 on apu with 3 nics.
> I've tried to search but no look. What is the EOL for OpenBSD 5.8?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>

Not sure that "end of life" is the way to put it, but OpenBSD developers
support the current and the previous releases (see picture on
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html).  So 5.8 was "EOL:ed" when 6.0 was
released.
/Johan



Re: 5.8 EOL

2016-12-01 Thread Alessandro Baggi

Il 01/12/2016 17:01, Marko Cupać ha scritto:

On Thu, 1 Dec 2016 15:59:41 +0100
Alessandro Baggi  wrote:


Hi list,
I've installed some years ago OpenBSD 5.8 on apu with 3 nics.
I've tried to search but no look. What is the EOL for OpenBSD 5.8?

Thanks in advance.



https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Flavors

AFAIK Once 6.0 is out, 5.8 becomes unsupported (EOS). But it by no means
its life ends (EOL). I have just upgraded 2 boxes that were at 5.5,
but were quite alive and kicking :)

--
Before enlightenment - chop wood, draw water.
After  enlightenment - chop wood, draw water.

Marko Cupać
https://www.mimar.rs/



Then, when 6.1 will be released, 5.9 will become unsupported.
How do you provide to security patch for 5.5?



Re: 5.8 EOL

2016-12-01 Thread Marko Cupać
On Thu, 1 Dec 2016 15:59:41 +0100
Alessandro Baggi  wrote:

> Hi list,
> I've installed some years ago OpenBSD 5.8 on apu with 3 nics.
> I've tried to search but no look. What is the EOL for OpenBSD 5.8?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>

https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Flavors

AFAIK Once 6.0 is out, 5.8 becomes unsupported (EOS). But it by no means
its life ends (EOL). I have just upgraded 2 boxes that were at 5.5,
but were quite alive and kicking :)

--
Before enlightenment - chop wood, draw water.
After  enlightenment - chop wood, draw water.

Marko Cupać
https://www.mimar.rs/