Re: Cisco 3002 VPN client to OpenBSD?

2007-10-09 Thread Brian A. Seklecki
On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 18:50 -0400, Rod Dorman wrote:
 On Friday, October 5, 2007, 15:14:41, Jeff Simmons wrote:
  On Friday 05 October 2007 01:17, Claer wrote:
  The Cisco client license forbids explicitely to connect to anything but
  Cisco Hardware.

You could rip the ISA controller out of a Pix 525 and out a CF adapter
in it.  Genuine intel P3 w/ quad fxp(4).  ~BAS




IMPORTANT: This message contains confidential information and is intended only 
for the individual named. If the reader of this message is not an intended 
recipient (or the individual responsible for the delivery of this message to an 
intended recipient), please be advised that any re-use, dissemination, 
distribution or copying of this message is prohibited.  Please notify the 
sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and 
delete this e-mail from your system.



Re: Cisco 3002 VPN client to OpenBSD?

2007-10-05 Thread Claer
On Wed, Oct 03 2007 at 32:20, Jeff Simmons wrote:
 Anyone have any experience with this?
 
 A company a client of mine wishes to work with insists this will work, but I 
 have my doubts. The documentation for the 3002 seems to indicate that it is 
 specifically for connections to a Cisco 3000 series VPN concentrator, and it 
 requires (?) group-password and user-password entries for connections to the 
 3000. Most of the rest of the configuration is pretty standard, if old (3des, 
 sha1).
It's just a no-go.

The Cisco client license forbids explicitely to connect to anything but
Cisco Hardware.

Here is an extract from the Cisco Client license :

--8---8--8-

Grant of License

2. Cisco Systems hereby grants you the right to install and use the
Software on an unlimited number of computers, provided that each of
those computers must use the Software only to connect to Cisco Systems
products, and subject to export restrictions in Paragraph 4 hereof. You
may make one copy of the Software for each such computer for the purpose
of installing the Software on that computer. The Software is licensed
for use only with Cisco Systems products, and for no other use.

--8---8--8-


Claer



Re: Cisco 3002 VPN client to OpenBSD?

2007-10-05 Thread Jeff Simmons
On Friday 05 October 2007 01:17, Claer wrote:
 The Cisco client license forbids explicitely to connect to anything but
 Cisco Hardware.

If that's so, then legal forgot to tell marketing. ;-)

The Cisco VPN 3002 Hardware Client works with all operating systems ... 
http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/prod_040401.html

In addition, the VPN 3002 Hardware Client works with any operating system 
including Solaris, Mac and Linux.
http://www.tribecaexpress.com/cisco_VPN_clients.htm

And yes, knowing Cisco, I can come up with a bunch of fudge factors. IF you 
use our proprietary software. We meant any OS can USE one of our 
proprietary tunnels. Etc. 

I know that native OpenBSD tools (ipsecctl, isakmpd) work fine with the Cisco 
3005 concentrator, I'm running several. I've got a 3002 loaner coming, I'll 
post the results.

-- 
Jeff Simmons   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Simmons Consulting - Network Engineering, Administration, Security
You guys, I don't hear any noise.  Are you sure you're doing it right?
--  My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult



Re: Cisco 3002 VPN client to OpenBSD?

2007-10-05 Thread Brian A. Seklecki
On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 12:14 -0700, Jeff Simmons wrote:
 On Friday 05 October 2007 01:17, Claer wrote:
  The Cisco client license forbids explicitely to connect to anything but
  Cisco Hardware.
 
 If that's so, then legal forgot to tell marketing. ;-)
 
 The Cisco VPN 3002 Hardware Client works with all operating systems ... 
 http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/prod_040401.html

The hayday of Cisco making billions on the Cisco PIX 5xx is long
over(*).   The advent of SSL VPNs and other Windoze-specific crap.

Something tells me they're not going to ante up for a fight to make
their products more-interoperable.  ipsec-tools and vpnc as examples.

~BAS

* Back then you could recall the Cisco product line from memory.



Re: Cisco 3002 VPN client to OpenBSD?

2007-10-05 Thread Rod Dorman
On Friday, October 5, 2007, 15:14:41, Jeff Simmons wrote:
 On Friday 05 October 2007 01:17, Claer wrote:
 The Cisco client license forbids explicitely to connect to anything but
 Cisco Hardware.

 If that's so, then legal forgot to tell marketing. ;-)

 The Cisco VPN 3002 Hardware Client works with all operating systems ... 
 http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/prod_040401.html

 In addition, the VPN 3002 Hardware Client works with any operating system
 including Solaris, Mac and Linux.
 http://www.tribecaexpress.com/cisco_VPN_clients.htm

Hummm...  the  way  I  read that is you can use any 'client' you want to
connect  to  their  'Hardware',  but, their 'client' may only be used to
connect to their 'Hardware'.


-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] The avalanche has already started, it is too
Rod Dorman  late for the pebbles to vote. - Ambassador Kosh



Re: Cisco 3002 VPN client to OpenBSD?

2007-10-04 Thread Brian A. Seklecki
There is a lot of work in racoon(8) as a server and client on Cisco
proprietary extensions.  I haven't tested it in about 10 weeks, though.
You'll want to run the trunk source code from ipsec-tools if you test
it.  I'm not sure if the ipsec(4) stack in OpenBSD 4.x will work with
racoon, though.

~BAS

On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 20:32 -0700, Jeff Simmons wrote:
 3002
-- 
Brian A. Seklecki [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Collaborative Fusion, Inc.




IMPORTANT: This message contains confidential information and is intended only 
for the individual named. If the reader of this message is not an intended 
recipient (or the individual responsible for the delivery of this message to an 
intended recipient), please be advised that any re-use, dissemination, 
distribution or copying of this message is prohibited.  Please notify the 
sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and 
delete this e-mail from your system.



Re: Cisco 3002 VPN client to OpenBSD?

2007-10-03 Thread Aaron W. Hsu
I highly recommend that you don't go with the routers, and just do your own 
work, mostly because it's a pain. On the other hand, vpnc is ported to OpenBSD 
and it works. You can see some of the issues relating to this when you check 
out the ports@ list where you can find some of the discussions about porting a 
newer version of vpnc to OpenBSD.


-- 
((name Aaron Hsu)
 (email/xmpp [EMAIL PROTECTED])
 (phone 703-597-7656)
 (site http://www.aaronhsu.com;))

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]