Re: Happy Birthday OpenBSD ! 10 years !

2005-10-14 Thread Miod Vallat
   Oct 14  OpenBSD born, Saturday 16:36 MST, 1995

Nah, today is Niklas' birthday. Or his weddings' anniversary. I never remember.

Miod



Re: Happy Birthday OpenBSD ! 10 years !

2005-10-14 Thread hky
yay..
viel Gl|ck zum Geburstag f|r OpenBSD :)

On 10/14/05, Frank Denis (Jedi/Sector One) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Oct 14 OpenBSD born, Saturday 16:36 MST, 1995

 
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OpenBSD is suck, but you gonna love it



Re: Happy Birthday OpenBSD ! 10 years !

2005-10-14 Thread johansz
So happy birthday OpenBSD

  http://www.chatou-informatic.com/obsdbirthday.htm

Thanks to all involved persons in Obsd

   Oct 14  OpenBSD born, Saturday 16:36 MST, 1995

  
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Re: Happy Birthday OpenBSD ! 10 years !

2005-10-14 Thread Michael Shalayeff
Making, drinking tea and reading an opus magnum from Miod Vallat:
[Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...]
Oct 14  OpenBSD born, Saturday 16:36 MST, 1995
 
 Nah, today is Niklas' birthday. Or his weddings' anniversary. I never 
 remember.

that's on 18th! (:

cu

-- 
paranoic mickey   (my employers have changed but, the name has remained)



Re: Happy Birthday OpenBSD ! 10 years !

2005-10-14 Thread Theo de Raadt
 Oct 14  OpenBSD born, Saturday 16:36 MST, 1995

Sorry, but so many of you are uninformed.

RCS file: /cvs/src/Makefile,v
revision 1.1
date: 1995/10/18 08:37:01;  author: deraadt;  state: Exp;
branches:  1.1.1;
Initial revision


That is when the repository was created.  That is the official
date.  I don't know where people get the other date from.



Re: Happy Birthday OpenBSD ! 10 years !

2005-10-14 Thread Frank Denis \(Jedi/Sector One\)

On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 08:39:15AM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote:

Oct 14  OpenBSD born, Saturday 16:36 MST, 1995


Sorry, but so many of you are uninformed.

date: 1995/10/18 08:37:01;  author: deraadt;  state: Exp;

That is when the repository was created.  That is the official
date.  I don't know where people get the other date from.


 This is the calendar.openbsd entry for Oct 14.



Re: Happy Birthday OpenBSD ! 10 years !

2005-10-14 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 07:48:28 -0700
Peter Hessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 08:39:15 -0600
 Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 :  Oct 14  OpenBSD born, Saturday 16:36 MST, 1995
 : 
 : Sorry, but so many of you are uninformed.
 : 
 : RCS file: /cvs/src/Makefile,v
 : revision 1.1
 : date: 1995/10/18 08:37:01;  author: deraadt;  state: Exp;
 : branches:  1.1.1;
 : Initial revision
 : 
 : 
 : That is when the repository was created.  That is the official
 : date.  I don't know where people get the other date from.
 : 
 
 /usr/share/calendar/calendar.openbsd
 
It has been there since it's initial import: 
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/~checkout~/src/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/calendar.openbsd?rev=1.1content-type=text/plain

Jasper


-- 
Security is decided by quality -- Theo de Raadt



Re: Happy Birthday OpenBSD ! 10 years !

2005-10-14 Thread Theo de Raadt
Mickey's calendar is not telling the truth.

There problem is there are a few things which happened in the days
beforehands (13th, 14th, 17th) as the decision to setup a repository
started being taken.  It took a few days to get things imported just
right.  Machines were slow back in those days, too.

There are teeny artifacts of those attempts, for instance in
ChangeLog.1 you can see the import attempts (I think on the 13th cvs
was crashing because of some large files in the repository).

The repository we use today is marked Oct 18, 1995 throughout, as
the 1.1 revision is many files.  Many other things are that way too.

For a project so large, how else should we date it.  First time I used
the name OpenBSD?  Date the DNS record was allocated?  Date web page went
up?  Date other developers got accounts?  Or should we set the date based
on some previous conversation with the NetBSD guys?

So, with that said,

CVSROOT:/cvs
Module name:src
Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005/10/14 09:06:10

Modified files:
usr.bin/calendar/calendars: calendar.openbsd 

Log message:
assume niklas's dating for openbsd birth


CVSROOT:/cvs
Module name:src
Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005/10/14 09:09:25

Modified files:
usr.bin/calendar/calendars: calendar.openbsd 

Log message:
doh! it was a wednesday. and fix the time as well then


And that is:

Oct 18  OpenBSD born, Wednesday 08:37:01 GMT, 1995


It's more important that we agree ;)



Re: Happy Birthday OpenBSD ! 10 years !

2005-10-14 Thread Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 17:01:16 +0200
Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 07:48:28 -0700
 Peter Hessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 08:39:15 -0600
  Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  :  Oct 14  OpenBSD born, Saturday 16:36 MST, 1995
  : 
  : Sorry, but so many of you are uninformed.
  : 
  : RCS file: /cvs/src/Makefile,v
  : revision 1.1
  : date: 1995/10/18 08:37:01;  author: deraadt;  state: Exp;
  : branches:  1.1.1;
  : Initial revision
  : 
  : 
  : That is when the repository was created.  That is the official
  : date.  I don't know where people get the other date from.
  : 
  
  /usr/share/calendar/calendar.openbsd
  
 It has been there since it's initial import: 
 http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/~checkout~/src/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/calendar.openbsd?rev=1.1content-type=text/plain
 
 Jasper

And in the time between sending this e-mail and receiving it via the list,
mickey@ has already fixed it. :-)

-- 
Security is decided by quality -- Theo de Raadt



Re: Happy Birthday OpenBSD ! 10 years !

2005-10-14 Thread Marco Peereboom
Neat now OpenBSD and I share the same birthday :-)

On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 09:11:00AM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote:
 Mickey's calendar is not telling the truth.
 
 There problem is there are a few things which happened in the days
 beforehands (13th, 14th, 17th) as the decision to setup a repository
 started being taken.  It took a few days to get things imported just
 right.  Machines were slow back in those days, too.
 
 There are teeny artifacts of those attempts, for instance in
 ChangeLog.1 you can see the import attempts (I think on the 13th cvs
 was crashing because of some large files in the repository).
 
 The repository we use today is marked Oct 18, 1995 throughout, as
 the 1.1 revision is many files.  Many other things are that way too.
 
 For a project so large, how else should we date it.  First time I used
 the name OpenBSD?  Date the DNS record was allocated?  Date web page went
 up?  Date other developers got accounts?  Or should we set the date based
 on some previous conversation with the NetBSD guys?
 
 So, with that said,
 
 CVSROOT:/cvs
 Module name:src
 Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005/10/14 09:06:10
 
 Modified files:
 usr.bin/calendar/calendars: calendar.openbsd 
 
 Log message:
 assume niklas's dating for openbsd birth
 
 
 CVSROOT:/cvs
 Module name:src
 Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005/10/14 09:09:25
 
 Modified files:
 usr.bin/calendar/calendars: calendar.openbsd 
 
 Log message:
 doh! it was a wednesday. and fix the time as well then
 
 
 And that is:
 
   Oct 18  OpenBSD born, Wednesday 08:37:01 GMT, 1995
 
 
 It's more important that we agree ;)



Re: Happy Birthday OpenBSD ! 10 years !

2005-10-14 Thread Frank Bax

At 11:11 AM 10/14/05, Theo de Raadt wrote:

There problem is there are a few things which happened in the days
beforehands (13th, 14th, 17th) as the decision to setup a repository
started being taken.


Roughly equivalent to birthing pains?


For a project so large, how else should we date it.  First time I used
the name OpenBSD?  Date the DNS record was allocated?  Date web page went
up?  Date other developers got accounts?  Or should we set the date based
on some previous conversation with the NetBSD guys?


When code becomes available.  A baby can have a name before it's born.  The 
other dates probably have corresponding events in a child's life.  Web page 
= birth announcement?



It's more important that we agree ;)


Agreed. 



Re: Happy Birthday OpenBSD ! 10 years !

2005-10-14 Thread francisco

On Fri, 14 Oct 2005, Theo de Raadt wrote:


Mickey's calendar is not telling the truth.


For this particular case i am going to make 2 assumptions:

1- this year OpenBSD gets 2 birthdays - the former, incorrect one, and the
   new, correct one.

2- the best way to say happy birthday is through donations:
   http://www.openbsd.org/donations.html


Would be good for other users to at least follow #2.


Happy birthday OpenBSD; your present is on its way, today and again on the 
18th!


-f
http://www.blackant.net/



Re: Happy Birthday OpenBSD ! 10 years !

2005-10-14 Thread Anselm Hook
I remember walking around with Theo in SunnySide after he got kicked out
of NetBSD, talking about code openness and code quality, and his making a
decision to eat ramen for a year or so to make this happen.

Congrats!

 - a


On Fri, 14 Oct 2005, Marco Peereboom wrote:

 Neat now OpenBSD and I share the same birthday :-)

 On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 09:11:00AM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote:
  Mickey's calendar is not telling the truth.
 
  There problem is there are a few things which happened in the days
  beforehands (13th, 14th, 17th) as the decision to setup a repository
  started being taken.  It took a few days to get things imported just
  right.  Machines were slow back in those days, too.
 
  There are teeny artifacts of those attempts, for instance in
  ChangeLog.1 you can see the import attempts (I think on the 13th cvs
  was crashing because of some large files in the repository).
 
  The repository we use today is marked Oct 18, 1995 throughout, as
  the 1.1 revision is many files.  Many other things are that way too.
 
  For a project so large, how else should we date it.  First time I used
  the name OpenBSD?  Date the DNS record was allocated?  Date web page went
  up?  Date other developers got accounts?  Or should we set the date based
  on some previous conversation with the NetBSD guys?
 
  So, with that said,
 
  CVSROOT:/cvs
  Module name:src
  Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005/10/14 09:06:10
 
  Modified files:
  usr.bin/calendar/calendars: calendar.openbsd
 
  Log message:
  assume niklas's dating for openbsd birth
 
 
  CVSROOT:/cvs
  Module name:src
  Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005/10/14 09:09:25
 
  Modified files:
  usr.bin/calendar/calendars: calendar.openbsd
 
  Log message:
  doh! it was a wednesday. and fix the time as well then
 
 
  And that is:
 
  Oct 18  OpenBSD born, Wednesday 08:37:01 GMT, 1995
 
 
  It's more important that we agree ;)



Re: Happy Birthday OpenBSD ! 10 years !

2005-10-14 Thread Daniel Ouellet

Marco Peereboom wrote:

Neat now OpenBSD and I share the same birthday :-)


Neat in fact! But we won't wish you happy 10th birthday right?

Or you sure would have started to bang on that keyboard very early for 
sure! (; May be that's where some of the early bugs came from! (;


Unless you were already thinking OpenBSD before you see the light! (: 
Always possible I guess...


I know some of the OpenBSD guys really spend their life on the project, 
but that would be way to much...


Happy birthday to both of you early then!

Daniel



Re: Happy Birthday OpenBSD ! 10 years !

2005-10-14 Thread Michael Shalayeff
Making, drinking tea and reading an opus magnum from francisco:
 On Fri, 14 Oct 2005, Theo de Raadt wrote:
 
  Mickey's calendar is not telling the truth.
 
 For this particular case i am going to make 2 assumptions:
 
 1- this year OpenBSD gets 2 birthdays - the former, incorrect one, and the
 new, correct one.

they are both correct.
it's like yom kippur -- celebrate it the whole week!

cu

-- 
paranoic mickey   (my employers have changed but, the name has remained)