Re: OT: 32bit vs 64bit network card question

2007-05-15 Thread Timo Schoeler
On Tue, 15 May 2007 13:38:10 +0200
Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 * Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-15 00:03]:
  * bofh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-14 21:54]:
   I have a question.  Some 64 bit cards (PCI-X?) seem to work in 32
   bit slots (PCI 2.2?).  Is this a feature, or am I looking at
   possible issues down the road?  Specifically, I am trying to
   build a n old(er) box, and on a whim (and vague memories about
   this working), stuck an em card into it.  Box seems to boot, and
   network traffic seems to flow.  Not sure if I should spend some $
   $ to buy another network card.
  
  yes, may 64bit PCI cards (from 64/33 to PCI-X 133) wor just fine in 
^^^
 that should read many. there are cards that are NOT backwards 
 compatible.
 also, the ones that are need 3.3V pci slots, not the ancient 5V ones.

as a rule of thumb one can say that cards that won't work guaranteed
also should NOT fit into that slot; at least not without using a hammer
or similar tools ;)

timo

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Re: OT: 32bit vs 64bit network card question

2007-05-15 Thread bofh

On 5/15/07, Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

* Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-15 00:03]:
 * bofh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-14 21:54]:
  I have a question.  Some 64 bit cards (PCI-X?) seem to work in 32 bit
  slots (PCI 2.2?).  Is this a feature, or am I looking at possible
  issues down the road?  Specifically, I am trying to build a n old(er)
  box, and on a whim (and vague memories about this working), stuck an
  em card into it.  Box seems to boot, and network traffic seems to
  flow.  Not sure if I should spend some $$ to buy another network card.

 yes, may 64bit PCI cards (from 64/33 to PCI-X 133) wor just fine in
   ^^^

Much thanx!


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Re: OT: 32bit vs 64bit network card question

2007-05-15 Thread Henning Brauer
* Timo Schoeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-15 13:47]:
 On Tue, 15 May 2007 13:38:10 +0200
 Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  * Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-15 00:03]:
   * bofh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-14 21:54]:
I have a question.  Some 64 bit cards (PCI-X?) seem to work in 32
bit slots (PCI 2.2?).  Is this a feature, or am I looking at
possible issues down the road?  Specifically, I am trying to
build a n old(er) box, and on a whim (and vague memories about
this working), stuck an em card into it.  Box seems to boot, and
network traffic seems to flow.  Not sure if I should spend some $
$ to buy another network card.
   
   yes, may 64bit PCI cards (from 64/33 to PCI-X 133) wor just fine in 
 ^^^
  that should read many. there are cards that are NOT backwards 
  compatible.
  also, the ones that are need 3.3V pci slots, not the ancient 5V ones.
 
 as a rule of thumb one can say that cards that won't work guaranteed
 also should NOT fit into that slot; at least not without using a hammer
 or similar tools ;)

no, that is not true. there are some that fir physically but just do 
not work unless they are in a 64bit slot. they will not be damanged by 
inserting them in a 32bit one, they'll just not work.

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Re: OT: 32bit vs 64bit network card question

2007-05-15 Thread Timo Schoeler
On Tue, 15 May 2007 14:29:02 +0200
Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 * Timo Schoeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-15 13:47]:
  On Tue, 15 May 2007 13:38:10 +0200
  Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   * Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-15 00:03]:
* bofh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-14 21:54]:
 I have a question.  Some 64 bit cards (PCI-X?) seem to work
 in 32 bit slots (PCI 2.2?).  Is this a feature, or am I
 looking at possible issues down the road?  Specifically, I am
 trying to build a n old(er) box, and on a whim (and vague
 memories about this working), stuck an em card into it.  Box
 seems to boot, and network traffic seems to flow.  Not sure
 if I should spend some $ $ to buy another network card.

yes, may 64bit PCI cards (from 64/33 to PCI-X 133) wor just
fine in 
  ^^^
   that should read many. there are cards that are NOT backwards 
   compatible.
   also, the ones that are need 3.3V pci slots, not the ancient 5V
   ones.
  
  as a rule of thumb one can say that cards that won't work guaranteed
  also should NOT fit into that slot; at least not without using a
  hammer or similar tools ;)
 
 no, that is not true. there are some that fir physically but just do 
 not work unless they are in a 64bit slot. they will not be damanged
 by inserting them in a 32bit one, they'll just not work.

then one should throw them away anyways as being not compliant to specs.

 -- 
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 Amsterdam



Re: OT: 32bit vs 64bit network card question

2007-05-14 Thread Henning Brauer
* bofh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-14 21:54]:
 I have a question.  Some 64 bit cards (PCI-X?) seem to work in 32 bit
 slots (PCI 2.2?).  Is this a feature, or am I looking at possible
 issues down the road?  Specifically, I am trying to build a n old(er)
 box, and on a whim (and vague memories about this working), stuck an
 em card into it.  Box seems to boot, and network traffic seems to
 flow.  Not sure if I should spend some $$ to buy another network card.

yes, may 64bit PCI cards (from 64/33 to PCI-X 133) wor just fine in 
plain old boring slow pci 32/33 slots. it's a feature. if the cards 
shows up it'll work.

-- 
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