Re: Thanks for ACPI

[Giancarlo Razzolini]

Em 24-06-2014 22:14, Theo de Raadt escreveu:
> It's a funny world, here's how, let me explain the road map for you:
>
> In 1 year, Windows will work worse on that particular laptop.  In 2 years,
> it will be expired.  In 4 years, it will barely work.  That is a result of
> chasing new sales.
True to the core. Planned obsolescence at its best.
>
> In 1 year, OpenBSD will work better on that laptop.  In 2 years, it will be
> work even better.  In about 4 years, it will work as well, but the decline
> will start because our developers will move on.  That is an aspect of minimal
> refinement, not chasing the curve.
For i386 and amd64 systems this decline is way longer than 4 years. I do
have OpenBSD systems running on 10 year old i386 machines.
>
> In 1 year, Linux might work better.  In 2 years, it will not work well.
> But hey, don't take my word for me.  Ask the net.  They'll set me straight,
> and they'll set you straight.  I don't know what they are chasing.  Maybe
> it is the same as the first.  Really, honestly, I don't have a clue what
> they are chasing.
>
They are chasing the last "tool" that is cool. One such example is
systemd. It did made all of my linux systems slower. In the end a linux
system is a mix of "cool tools" many doing the same thing, many trying
to do all things at once, and all of them barely working as a system.
You might get lucky and your system might get better and better with
linux over the time. But that's rare.

Cheers,

-- 
Giancarlo Razzolini
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Re: Thanks for ACPI

[Gustav Fransson Nyvell]

On 06/25/14 03:14, Theo de Raadt wrote:

It's funny to me that NO power saving features work in Windows 8, nor
2 finger scrolling on the trackpad.

It's a funny world, here's how, let me explain the road map for you:

In 1 year, Windows will work worse on that particular laptop.  In 2 years,
it will be expired.  In 4 years, it will barely work.  That is a result of
chasing new sales.

In 1 year, OpenBSD will work better on that laptop.  In 2 years, it will be
work even better.  In about 4 years, it will work as well, but the decline
will start because our developers will move on.  That is an aspect of minimal
refinement, not chasing the curve.

In 1 year, Linux might work better.  In 2 years, it will not work well.
But hey, don't take my word for me.  Ask the net.  They'll set me straight,
and they'll set you straight.  I don't know what they are chasing.  Maybe
it is the same as the first.  Really, honestly, I don't have a clue what
they are chasing.

Wow, this is the kind of e-mail I want to read in the (well, sort of) 
morning. <3

Re: Thanks for ACPI

[Leonardo Santagostini]

Hello all, just to add that its true !!! In my notebook also ACPI and two
finger its working perfectly.

Theo the way you define windows, linux and openbsd is brilliant. I will
pass these words to my work colleagues =)

Thank you for doing what you do. Its simply working !!! And simpler that
the other OSes

Saludos.-
Leonardo Santagostini







2014-06-24 22:14 GMT-03:00 Theo de Raadt :

> > It's funny to me that NO power saving features work in Windows 8, nor
> > 2 finger scrolling on the trackpad.
>
> It's a funny world, here's how, let me explain the road map for you:
>
> In 1 year, Windows will work worse on that particular laptop.  In 2 years,
> it will be expired.  In 4 years, it will barely work.  That is a result of
> chasing new sales.
>
> In 1 year, OpenBSD will work better on that laptop.  In 2 years, it will be
> work even better.  In about 4 years, it will work as well, but the decline
> will start because our developers will move on.  That is an aspect of
> minimal
> refinement, not chasing the curve.
>
> In 1 year, Linux might work better.  In 2 years, it will not work well.
> But hey, don't take my word for me.  Ask the net.  They'll set me straight,
> and they'll set you straight.  I don't know what they are chasing.  Maybe
> it is the same as the first.  Really, honestly, I don't have a clue what
> they are chasing.

Re: Thanks for ACPI

[Theo de Raadt]

> It's funny to me that NO power saving features work in Windows 8, nor
> 2 finger scrolling on the trackpad.

It's a funny world, here's how, let me explain the road map for you:

In 1 year, Windows will work worse on that particular laptop.  In 2 years,
it will be expired.  In 4 years, it will barely work.  That is a result of
chasing new sales.

In 1 year, OpenBSD will work better on that laptop.  In 2 years, it will be
work even better.  In about 4 years, it will work as well, but the decline
will start because our developers will move on.  That is an aspect of minimal
refinement, not chasing the curve.

In 1 year, Linux might work better.  In 2 years, it will not work well.
But hey, don't take my word for me.  Ask the net.  They'll set me straight,
and they'll set you straight.  I don't know what they are chasing.  Maybe
it is the same as the first.  Really, honestly, I don't have a clue what
they are chasing.