Re: dhclient implementation

2011-08-27 Thread Iñigo Ortiz de Urbina
On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 1:01 AM, Jona Joachim j...@hcl-club.lu wrote:
 On 2011-08-26, I??igo Ortiz de Urbina inigoortizdeurb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Supersede gives me what I want. It just felt weird those entries
 ended up on resolv.conf when I had not requested them.

 Thanks and sorry for the noise.

 This is expected behaviour for the prepend option, it does just that:
 request the name servers and prepend the one(s) you supplied. That way
 by default the system will use the name server you supplied in the
 configuration file but will fall back to the ones given by your router
 in case the first name server is not reachable.

As I said Jona offlist, yes, I understand that behavior. My line is
prepended and then anything
else goes after it.

Still, what I do not understand is why two nameserver entries appear
on my resolv.conf, if I have never requested them.

 Best regards,
 Jona





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Re: dhclient implementation

2011-08-27 Thread Jona Joachim
On 2011-08-27, I??igo Ortiz de Urbina inigoortizdeurb...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 1:01 AM, Jona Joachim j...@hcl-club.lu wrote:
 On 2011-08-26, I??igo Ortiz de Urbina inigoortizdeurb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Supersede gives me what I want. It just felt weird those entries
 ended up on resolv.conf when I had not requested them.

 Thanks and sorry for the noise.

 This is expected behaviour for the prepend option, it does just that:
 request the name servers and prepend the one(s) you supplied. That way
 by default the system will use the name server you supplied in the
 configuration file but will fall back to the ones given by your router
 in case the first name server is not reachable.

 As I said Jona offlist, yes, I understand that behavior.

I did not say anything off list.



Re: dhclient implementation

2011-08-26 Thread Jona Joachim
On 2011-08-26, I?igo Ortiz de Urbina tarom...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all users and developers

 I simply noticed what I would call a weird behaviour on my 32 bit 4.9
 GENERIC#671 box's dhclient, which I hope is not the expected behavior.
 While reading RFC2131, I didnt find any sentence stating or implying
 that is the desired behavior, as in a server MUST

 Say I run a local instance of named on my machine. I dont want dhcp to
 overwrite my resolv.conf, so I add the classical prepend
 dns-name-servers to my dhclient.conf.

 I capture the traffic while asking for an IP address (no prior leases)
 and I can see how DHCP packets do not request DNS servers. However,
 which I am afraid happens more often than not, my crappy Comtrend
 domestic router ignores the request and simply decides to always
 answer including my ISPs DNS servers. I could check this with
 Wireshark also. The result is resolv.conf has 3 nameserver entries,
 instead of the only one I want to prepend.

Not sure I understand exactly what you mean but perhaps you want supersede
instead of prepend.

Best regards,
Jona



Re: dhclient implementation

2011-08-26 Thread Iñigo Ortiz de Urbina
Supersede gives me what I want. It just felt weird those entries
ended up on resolv.conf when I had not requested them.

Thanks and sorry for the noise.

2011/8/27 IC1igo Ortiz de Urbina tarom...@gmail.com:
 Hi all users and developers

 I simply noticed what I would call a weird behaviour on my 32 bit 4.9
 GENERIC#671 box's dhclient, which I hope is not the expected behavior.
 While reading RFC2131, I didnt find any sentence stating or implying
 that is the desired behavior, as in a server MUST

 Say I run a local instance of named on my machine. I dont want dhcp to
 overwrite my resolv.conf, so I add the classical prepend
 dns-name-servers to my dhclient.conf.

 I capture the traffic while asking for an IP address (no prior leases)
 and I can see how DHCP packets do not request DNS servers. However,
 which I am afraid happens more often than not, my crappy Comtrend
 domestic router ignores the request and simply decides to always
 answer including my ISPs DNS servers. I could check this with
 Wireshark also. The result is resolv.conf has 3 nameserver entries,
 instead of the only one I want to prepend.

 I also tried not prepending my localhost named entry, just in case
 that would trigger something weird in the code and eventually
 nameservers got appended. No luck.

 dhclient.conf(5) states the following:

 The protocol also allows the client to reject offers
 B  B  from servers if they don't contain information the client needs, or
if
 B  B  the information provided is not satisfactory.

 So, shouldnt dhclients just keep track of what they requested and just
 accept that specific set of properties, instead of all it was sent by
 the router? I am not talking about whether RFCs or the implementation
 is correct or not. I am no authority of course. It simply seems
 reasonable to me to implement it as I just mentioned. I understand
 clients can ask for parameters that would lead to an invalid network
 configurations. Still, Unix doesnt let you shoot yourself in the foot
 for a good reason? Am I missing the obvious?

 Any comment would be highly appreciated.

 Thanks for your time and have a nice day





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http://www.twitter.com/ioc32



Re: dhclient implementation

2011-08-26 Thread Jona Joachim
On 2011-08-26, I??igo Ortiz de Urbina inigoortizdeurb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Supersede gives me what I want. It just felt weird those entries
 ended up on resolv.conf when I had not requested them.

 Thanks and sorry for the noise.

This is expected behaviour for the prepend option, it does just that:
request the name servers and prepend the one(s) you supplied. That way
by default the system will use the name server you supplied in the
configuration file but will fall back to the ones given by your router
in case the first name server is not reachable.

Best regards,
Jona