Re: Remove outdated /etc/examples/unwind.conf?
On 2021-07-24, David Higgs wrote: > I wonder if there would be any benefit to a sysclean-like tool as part of a > standard upgrade/sysmerge that automatically deletes everything older than > the (supported) current and prior release? I think it's not possible, sometimes config files move from being installed in /etc by default to not having a default but still used, such a tool would remove those. sysclean is great, and for files in "system owned" directories like /usr/lib, /usr/include, /usr/share and the various bin directories, in almost all cases the list of files can be removed directly. But for "user owned" directories like /etc that's very much not the case.
Re: Remove outdated /etc/examples/unwind.conf?
David Higgs(hig...@gmail.com) on 2021.07.24 14:05:04 -0400: > I wonder if there would be any benefit to a sysclean-like tool as part of a > standard upgrade/sysmerge that automatically deletes everything older than > the (supported) current and prior release? It would remove the need to > curate removal lists in upgrade.html. Just an idle thought... pay me no > mind. At this time we believe it is enough to provide the list in upgrade.html. If the removal of a file is needed because leaving it around can cause problems (for example include files), it will be mentioned in current.html. Sometimes less is more, for example more time for developers to do important things. Also note that any automatically generated list should be reviewed, you may have valid reasons to keep a file around.
Re: Remove outdated /etc/examples/unwind.conf?
On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 5:33 AM Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2021-07-21, David Higgs wrote: > > I was looking into how to configure unwind for my needs, and found > > significant discrepancies between /etc/examples/unwind.conf and the > > unwind.conf(5) manual. Namely, the example file had lots of captive > portal > > info, while the manual made no mention of it. > > > > After browsing source history, I learned that when captive portal support > > was removed, the example config was removed. > > > > I'm going to compare the contents of etc.tgz versus my /etc/examples > > directory to avoid confusion in the future, but should sysmerge(8) have > > removed example files such as this? > > sysmerge doesn't deal with files in /etc/examples, they aren't expected > to be modified in-place so they are just overwritten as part of > extracting the base set. As with other files in the base there's nothing > to remove old ones no longer present, but you can use "sysclean" (in > packages) to identify files in system directories that aren't present > in base - either local additions or obsolete files - if you'd like to > remove them. > Oh, that makes more sense. I use sysclean on my -stable systems, but not on this VM running -current. I had somehow gotten the idea in my head that sysmerge ingested files from /etc/examples to perform updates - and thus they were treated differently - but clearly I was very wrong. I wonder if there would be any benefit to a sysclean-like tool as part of a standard upgrade/sysmerge that automatically deletes everything older than the (supported) current and prior release? It would remove the need to curate removal lists in upgrade.html. Just an idle thought... pay me no mind. Apologies for the noise. --david
Re: Remove outdated /etc/examples/unwind.conf?
On 2021-07-21, David Higgs wrote: > I was looking into how to configure unwind for my needs, and found > significant discrepancies between /etc/examples/unwind.conf and the > unwind.conf(5) manual. Namely, the example file had lots of captive portal > info, while the manual made no mention of it. > > After browsing source history, I learned that when captive portal support > was removed, the example config was removed. > > I'm going to compare the contents of etc.tgz versus my /etc/examples > directory to avoid confusion in the future, but should sysmerge(8) have > removed example files such as this? sysmerge doesn't deal with files in /etc/examples, they aren't expected to be modified in-place so they are just overwritten as part of extracting the base set. As with other files in the base there's nothing to remove old ones no longer present, but you can use "sysclean" (in packages) to identify files in system directories that aren't present in base - either local additions or obsolete files - if you'd like to remove them.
Remove outdated /etc/examples/unwind.conf?
I was looking into how to configure unwind for my needs, and found significant discrepancies between /etc/examples/unwind.conf and the unwind.conf(5) manual. Namely, the example file had lots of captive portal info, while the manual made no mention of it. After browsing source history, I learned that when captive portal support was removed, the example config was removed. I'm going to compare the contents of etc.tgz versus my /etc/examples directory to avoid confusion in the future, but should sysmerge(8) have removed example files such as this? Thanks. --david
