Re: Request for a new list: trolling

2012-03-10 Thread Brandon Weaver
Known lazy bastard.

On Mar 10, 2012, at 7:33 AM, 0xAAA <0x...@online.de> wrote:

> It is  quite interesting that  any trolling message  gets more attention
than a
> real, OpenBSD  related problem (view  the threads of  the stupid guy  which
cant
> read installation instructions...)
>
> My suggestion: We  create a new list, eg. "trolling"  or "smalltalk" where
other
> users can discuss about senseless questions.
>
> And misc  should be about real  problems/discussions (like it was  before
stupid
> linus-nerds arrived on this list...)
>
> (sorry for that non-misc related message)



Re: Request for a new list: trolling

2012-03-10 Thread Brandon Weaver
Because answering a question requires knowledge, experience, and patience. Now
I believe there's a difference between a question and a KLB demanding answers
and rainbows.

What I find amusing is that a majority of the people with an OpenBSD
superiority complex don't know heads or tails of its  actual power. There are
exceptions on both sides, but let's draw a line of distinction between fanboy
and guru.

On Mar 10, 2012, at 7:33 AM, 0xAAA <0x...@online.de> wrote:

> It is  quite interesting that  any trolling message  gets more attention
than a
> real, OpenBSD  related problem (view  the threads of  the stupid guy  which
cant
> read installation instructions...)
>
> My suggestion: We  create a new list, eg. "trolling"  or "smalltalk" where
other
> users can discuss about senseless questions.
>
> And misc  should be about real  problems/discussions (like it was  before
stupid
> linus-nerds arrived on this list...)
>
> (sorry for that non-misc related message)



Re: Request for a new list: trolling

2012-03-10 Thread Sevan / Venture37

On 10/03/2012 16:50, Marc Espie wrote:

So call the list Trolling,  please.


& change misc@ to demands@
:)

Sevan



Re: Request for a new list: trolling

2012-03-10 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 02:33:50PM +0100, 0xAAA wrote:
> It is  quite interesting that  any trolling message  gets more attention  
> than a
> real, OpenBSD  related problem (view  the threads of  the stupid guy  which 
> cant
> read installation instructions...)
> 
> My suggestion: We  create a new list, eg. "trolling"  or "smalltalk" where 
> other
> users can discuss about senseless questions.

Every message is a troll... for instance, "smalltalk" is a programming language,
and a very important one at that.

So call the list Trolling,  please.



Re: Request for a new list: trolling

2012-03-10 Thread Kaya Saman

On 03/10/2012 01:33 PM, 0xAAA wrote:

It is  quite interesting that  any trolling message  gets more attention  than a
real, OpenBSD  related problem (view  the threads of  the stupid guy  which cant
read installation instructions...)


It could be just that people need to let off steam once in a while and 
have some fun rather then being all serious.


Basically creating an OpenBSD "playground" and "letting the animals out 
of the zoo for a while" so to speak would be a good idea.




My suggestion: We  create a new list, eg. "trolling"  or "smalltalk" where other
users can discuss about senseless questions.


misc (miscellaneous) sounds perfect for this: might be better to create 
a legitimate questi...@openbsd.org list - like we do on FreeBSD, that 
way people could kinda separate things more clearly Actually as a 
FreeBSD user for round 3+ years now I'm pretty much signed up to all 
non-devel based FBSD lists as they all come in useful for legitimate 
problems and issues.




And misc  should be about real  problems/discussions (like it was  before stupid
linus-nerds arrived on this list...)


Never knew being a nerd was associated with stupidity thought they 
were spectrally at opposite ends :-P


Or is this just an OpenBSD superiority thing?? Hmm. the BSD Daemon 
insignia. didn't they do that back in 1939??? Look where they got! 
:-P :-P :-P :-P




(sorry for that non-misc related message)



P.s. just because am new to OpenBSD and posting back with my thoughts 
and opinions it doesn't mean that I'm trolling!!! :-)


To be honest from what I've seen with OpenBSD to this date: 
gateway/NAT/router/firewall/VPN concentrator (yep done all this), I 
really like it and will continue to use it for many years to come and 
hopefully contribute myself, to help the community. OS wars aside 
OpenBSD is really cool and as router and network appliance capable OS 
kicks Cisco right in their ASCII.


P.p.s. no lynching me please


Regards,


Kaya



Re: Request for a new list: trolling

2012-03-10 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
0xAAA <0x...@online.de> writes:

> My suggestion: We  create a new list, eg. "trolling"  or "smalltalk" where 
> other
> users can discuss about senseless questions.

Wouldn't it be even better if we headed them off with a web forum or
even a facebook group? 

- P
-- 
Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team
http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.bsdly.net/ http://www.nuug.no/
"Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic"
delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.



Request for a new list: trolling

2012-03-10 Thread 0xAAA
It is  quite interesting that  any trolling message  gets more attention  than a
real, OpenBSD  related problem (view  the threads of  the stupid guy  which cant
read installation instructions...)

My suggestion: We  create a new list, eg. "trolling"  or "smalltalk" where other
users can discuss about senseless questions.

And misc  should be about real  problems/discussions (like it was  before stupid
linus-nerds arrived on this list...)

(sorry for that non-misc related message)