Re: remote su root: SORRY

2005-11-22 Thread Paul Yiu
Hi Otto,

>>I would like to see the output of userinfo pyiu. Added to that, the
>>output of getcap -f /etc/login.conf class, where class is the login
>>class of teh user, as reported by userinfo.

login   pyiu
passwd  WhatEverWasHere
uid 1002
groups  users wheel
change  NEVER
class  
gecos   Paul Yiu
dir /home/pyiu
shell   /usr/local/bin/bash
expire  NEVER

pyiu do not assign to any class as shown above.
-bash-3.00# getcap -f /etc/login.conf default
default::path=/usr/bin /bin /usr/sbin /sbin /usr/X11R6/bin 
/usr/local/bin:  :umask=022: :datasize-max=256M: 
:datasize-cur=75M:  :maxproc-max=128:   :maxproc-cur=64:
:openfiles-cur=64:  :stacksize-cur=4M:  
:localcipher=blowfish,6::ypcipher=old:  :auth=passwd,skey:  
:auth-ftp=passwd:

>>Also, we need to see the exact command line used and errors reported.
>>Not just some vague description. 

I use ssh.com client 3.2.9 to login as pyiu and type su to su as root 
and what has been capture in /var/log/authlog is
Nov 21 11:27:02 openbsd1 su: BAD SU pyiu to root on /dev/ttyp0
I can provide more details if necessery.

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Otto Moerbeek wrote:

>On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, Lars Hansson wrote:
>
>  
>
>>On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 14:02:17 +1100
>>Paul Yiu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>/etc/passwd
>>>pyiu:*:1002:10:P Yiu:/home/pyiu:/usr/local/bin/bash
>>>
>>>/etc/group
>>>wheel:*:0:root,pyiu
>>>  
>>>
>>10 != 0
>>
>>
>
>Indeed, but what does that have to do with the problem? You do not
>have to have wheel as primary group to be able to use su(1).
>
>I would like to see the output of userinfo pyiu. Added to that, the
>output of getcap -f /etc/login.conf class, where class is the login
>class of teh user, as reported by userinfo.
>
>Also, we need to see the exact command line used and errors reported.
>Not just some vague description. 
>
>   -Otto



Re: remote su root: SORRY

2005-11-21 Thread Lars Hansson
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 09:37:17 +0100 (CET)
Otto Moerbeek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Indeed, but what does that have to do with the problem? You do not
> have to have wheel as primary group to be able to use su(1).

Indeed, I'm totally wrong. I missed the puyi at the end of the group
entry.
Just ignore this silly post.

---
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Re: remote su root: SORRY

2005-11-21 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005, Lars Hansson wrote:

> On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 14:02:17 +1100
> Paul Yiu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > /etc/passwd
> > pyiu:*:1002:10:P Yiu:/home/pyiu:/usr/local/bin/bash
> > 
> > /etc/group
> > wheel:*:0:root,pyiu
> 
> 10 != 0

Indeed, but what does that have to do with the problem? You do not
have to have wheel as primary group to be able to use su(1).

I would like to see the output of userinfo pyiu. Added to that, the
output of getcap -f /etc/login.conf class, where class is the login
class of teh user, as reported by userinfo.

Also, we need to see the exact command line used and errors reported.
Not just some vague description. 

-Otto



Re: remote su root: SORRY

2005-11-20 Thread Lars Hansson
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 14:02:17 +1100
Paul Yiu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> /etc/passwd
> pyiu:*:1002:10:P Yiu:/home/pyiu:/usr/local/bin/bash
> 
> /etc/group
> wheel:*:0:root,pyiu

10 != 0

---
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Re: remote su root: SORRY

2005-11-20 Thread Paul Yiu

Hi Guys,

Hope you guys can help on this ssh issue has been posted in 2004. Thank 
you in advance.


I hit the same ssh problem with openbsd 3.7. I got serial console set 
up, I got a user which assigned in a wheel group, when I log in using 
ssh as a user and try to su. System said sorry and I check 
/var/log/authlog it said BAD SU pyiu to root on /dev/ttyp0. I can ssh in 
as root, but not su as root. Please find following lines from config file.


/etc/passwd
pyiu:*:1002:10:P Yiu:/home/pyiu:/usr/local/bin/bash

/etc/group
wheel:*:0:root,pyiu

/etc/ttys
ttyp0   nonenetwork

/var/log/authlog
su: BAD SU pyiu to root on /dev/ttyp0

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Re: [Fwd: Re: Theo, I am truely sorry. You misunderstood me.]

2005-10-21 Thread terry tyson
On 10/21/05, Szechuan Death <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> frantisek holop wrote:
> > hmm, on Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 04:01:18PM -0800, Szechuan Death said that
> >> This has been a public service announcement, paid for by the "Friends
> >> of Civilized Vendors" economic-action committee.  The FCV reminds you;
> >> FCV also stands for "Fuck Closed Vendors!"  >;->
> >
> > and fuck closed www ports for half of the world.
>
> Wazzat?  "Please, Szechuan, I want to host the store?"  That's what
> it sounded like.  Let me know the second _you_ want to have it on
> _your_ network, I'll pack it all up and forward it over to you.
> See, then _you_ can decide which ports and which countries you want
> to block.
>
> A new decoding for "FWD" just came to me, but in the interests of
> politeness, I'll forego sharing it with the rest of the class.

hehehe, I think the subject line is way overdue for a change on this thread.
;-)



Re: [Fwd: Re: Theo, I am truely sorry. You misunderstood me.]

2005-10-21 Thread Szechuan Death

frantisek holop wrote:

hmm, on Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 04:01:18PM -0800, Szechuan Death said that

This has been a public service announcement, paid for by the "Friends
of Civilized Vendors" economic-action committee.  The FCV reminds you;
FCV also stands for "Fuck Closed Vendors!"  >;->


and fuck closed www ports for half of the world.


Wazzat?  "Please, Szechuan, I want to host the store?"  That's what
it sounded like.  Let me know the second _you_ want to have it on
_your_ network, I'll pack it all up and forward it over to you.
See, then _you_ can decide which ports and which countries you want
to block.

A new decoding for "FWD" just came to me, but in the interests of
politeness, I'll forego sharing it with the rest of the class.

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Re: [Fwd: Re: Theo, I am truely sorry. You misunderstood me.]

2005-10-21 Thread Szechuan Death

Daniel A. Ramaley wrote:

I submitted the Adaptec 1205 SA to your list. I put it in my OpenBSD 3.7 
machine and it just worked. 

The drive plugged into the 1205 is wd1. I believe these are the relevant 
dmesg lines:


pciide1 at pci0 dev 16 function 0 "CMD Technology SiI3112 SATA" rev 
0x02: DMA

pciide1: using irq 10 for native-PCI interrupt
pciide1: port 0: device present, speed: 1.5Gb/s
wd1 at pciide1 channel 0 drive 0: 
wd1: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 381554MB, 781422768 sectors
wd1(pciide1:0:0): using BIOS timings, Ultra-DMA mode 6


Thank you Daniel, that was what I needed to know.  Thanks for the
submission, too!  Got any others?

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Re: [Fwd: Re: Theo, I am truely sorry. You misunderstood me.]

2005-10-21 Thread Daniel A. Ramaley
On Thursday 20 October 2005 19:01, you wrote:
>Currently tracking 30+ pieces of hardware.  However, I need help:  I
>need people to email me supported hardware, or use the "Submit New
> Kit" link on the page to do it.  It's pretty easy, and the only
> requirement is that you need to have personally witnessed its
> (correct) operation with some version of OpenBSD, and that it is
> possible to buy it new. Speaking of which:  Which driver supports the
> Adaptec 1205SA?  Anybody? Bueller?  Manpages are not forthcoming.

I submitted the Adaptec 1205 SA to your list. I put it in my OpenBSD 3.7 
machine and it just worked. 

The drive plugged into the 1205 is wd1. I believe these are the relevant 
dmesg lines:

pciide1 at pci0 dev 16 function 0 "CMD Technology SiI3112 SATA" rev 
0x02: DMA
pciide1: using irq 10 for native-PCI interrupt
pciide1: port 0: device present, speed: 1.5Gb/s
wd1 at pciide1 channel 0 drive 0: 
wd1: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 381554MB, 781422768 sectors
wd1(pciide1:0:0): using BIOS timings, Ultra-DMA mode 6

The full dmesg follows, in case what i quoted above isn't sufficient:


OpenBSD 3.7 (GENERIC) #50: Sun Mar 20 00:01:57 MST 2005
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel Pentium II ("GenuineIntel" 686-class, 512KB L2 cache) 451 
MHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MM
X,FXSR
real mem  = 536453120 (523880K)
avail mem = 482713600 (471400K)
using 4278 buffers containing 26927104 bytes (26296K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(00) BIOS, date 01/15/99, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 
0xfdb60
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2
apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0x1
pcibios0: PCI BIOS has 10 Interrupt Routing table entries
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:07:0 ("Intel 82371AB PIIX4 ISA" 
rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000 0xc8000/0x4800 0xcc800/0x2800
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel 82443BX AGP" rev 0x03
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 "Intel 82443BX AGP" rev 0x03
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
pcib0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 "Intel 82371AB PIIX4 ISA" rev 0x02
pciide0 at pci0 dev 7 function 1 "Intel 82371AB IDE" rev 0x01: DMA, 
channel 0 wi
red to compatibility, channel 1 wired to compatibility
wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: 
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 9536MB, 19531250 sectors
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 1
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0:  SCSI0 5/cdrom 
removabl
e
wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
cd0(pciide0:0:1): using PIO mode 0
pciide0: channel 1 disabled (no drives)
uhci0 at pci0 dev 7 function 2 "Intel 82371AB USB" rev 0x01: irq 11
usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0 at usb0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
"Intel 82371AB Power Mgmt" rev 0x02 at pci0 dev 7 function 3 not 
configured
fxp0 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 "Intel 82557" rev 0x02: irq 9, address 
00:a0:c9:7
4:9a:a9
inphy0 at fxp0 phy 1: i82555 10/100 PHY, rev. 0
pciide1 at pci0 dev 16 function 0 "CMD Technology SiI3112 SATA" rev 
0x02: DMA
pciide1: using irq 10 for native-PCI interrupt
pciide1: port 0: device present, speed: 1.5Gb/s
wd1 at pciide1 channel 0 drive 0: 
wd1: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 381554MB, 781422768 sectors
wd1(pciide1:0:0): using BIOS timings, Ultra-DMA mode 6
pciide2 at pci0 dev 18 function 0 "Promise PDC20269" rev 0x02: DMA, 
channel 0 co
nfigured to native-PCI, channel 1 configured to native-PCI
pciide2: using irq 5 for native-PCI interrupt
wd2 at pciide2 channel 0 drive 0: 
wd2: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 239372MB, 490234752 sectors
wd2(pciide2:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 6
vga1 at pci0 dev 20 function 0 "S3 Trio32/64" rev 0x54
wsdisplay0 at vga1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
isa0 at pcib0
isadma0 at isa0
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0 (mux 1 ignored for console): console keyboard, using 
wsdisplay0
pms0 at pckbc0 (aux slot)
pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot
wsmouse0 at pms0 mux 0
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
midi0 at pcppi0: 
sysbeep0 at pcppi0
lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7
lm0 at isa0 port 0x290/8: W83781D
npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: using exception 16
pccom0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
pccom1 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2
fd0 at fdc0 drive 0: 1.44MB 80 cyl, 2 head, 18 sec
biomask ed65 netmask ef65 ttymask ffe7
pctr: 686-class user-level performance counters enabled
mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support
dkcsum: wd0 matched BIOS disk 80
dkcsum: wd1 matched BIOS disk 81
dkcsum: wd2 matched BIOS disk 82
root on wd0a
rootdev=0x0 rrootdev=0x300 rawdev=0x302



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Re: [Fwd: Re: Theo, I am truely sorry. You misunderstood me.]

2005-10-21 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 04:01:18PM -0800, Szechuan Death said that
> This has been a public service announcement, paid for by the "Friends
> of Civilized Vendors" economic-action committee.  The FCV reminds you;
> FCV also stands for "Fuck Closed Vendors!"  >;->

and fuck closed www ports for half of the world.

-f
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[Fwd: Re: Theo, I am truely sorry. You misunderstood me.]

2005-10-20 Thread Szechuan Death

Rico wrote:

If you need anything - write the stuff yourself, if you can't then just 
ask nicely, otherwise buy hardware that is supported or run something 
that works on your hardware - it's your choise!

[...]

Many of us experience the same as you! I too have experienced hardware
that isn't supported on OpenBSD, but OpenBSD's goal isn't to support
every piece of hardware that exists. I could imagine that one of the
most borring tasks would be to write drivers for hardware, especially 
hardware one doesn't even use.


And if I might take this opportunity to engage in what seems like a
timely segue, making the purchase of supported hardware easy is the
purpose of the OpenBSD MetaStore:

http://www.sdeath.net/obsdstore

Currently tracking 30+ pieces of hardware.  However, I need help:  I
need people to email me supported hardware, or use the "Submit New Kit"
link on the page to do it.  It's pretty easy, and the only requirement
is that you need to have personally witnessed its (correct) operation
with some version of OpenBSD, and that it is possible to buy it new.
Speaking of which:  Which driver supports the Adaptec 1205SA?  Anybody?
Bueller?  Manpages are not forthcoming.

This has been a public service announcement, paid for by the "Friends
of Civilized Vendors" economic-action committee.  The FCV reminds you;
FCV also stands for "Fuck Closed Vendors!"  >;->

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Re: Theo, I am truely sorry. You misunderstood me.

2005-10-20 Thread Rico

Dear Sophie

I think you have misunderstood the main point of OpenBSD. OpenBSD isn't 
developed for you! The developers develope for themselves!


If you need anything - write the stuff yourself, if you can't then just 
ask nicely, otherwise buy hardware that is supported or run something 
that works on your hardware - it's your choise!


Maybe no one wants to help with that particular driver, maybe nobody has 
the time, maybe nobody think that particular driver is important - so 
what?! With all due respect, OpenBSD isn't about you!


> I've been very patient waiting for support for
> over a year now and the more time that passed, the less i could see my
> chances of being able to use it.

You have been very patient.. so what? The OpenBSD team of developers 
doesn't owe you anything. They have developed the OS for themselves and 
you have bought a CD with a copy of the system over the last couple of 
years..


> If you count all of the OpenBSD CD releases that I've already bought
> in the past, I've  already paid for it

Shame on you Sophie!! You haven't paid for anything! If you truly where 
to pay the price the system is worth, you would find yourself paying 
thousands of dollars. The price of the CD hardly covers the work it is 
to buy an empty CD, manufacture the CD and ship the CD.


Many of us experience the same as you! I too have experienced hardware 
that isn't supported on OpenBSD, but OpenBSD's goal isn't to support 
every piece of hardware that exists. I could imagine that one of the 
most borring tasks would be to write drivers for hardware, especially 
hardware one doesn't even use.


>>>>>>I don't care about anything else other than the USB ports.
>>>>>>REALLY: This is making life unbearable.
>>>>>>I can't use a USB mouse and I have no serial ports.
>>>>>>I have no mouse (the touchpad doesn't work properly).
>>>>>>I can't use any USB devices at all (but the mouse is all
>>>>>>that matters to me). I'm desperate. I LOVE OpenBSD

If it is that much of a problem get another computer!! Do something 
constructive to solve your problem instead! And if you can't you 
proberly just have to live with this anyway!


You have apologized and you are desperate, but really - I think you 
kindda blew it.


Best regards,
Rico


Sophie L wrote:

Hi Theo,

Straight up, I'm very sorry. It was not my intention to be rude and I'm
not a rude person. All I am is desperate to be able to use OpenBSD
again. The fact is I have been a supporter and advocate for OpenBSD for
many years and I admire you for what you've done. I just want to be able
to use OpenBSD again. I've been very patient waiting for support for
over a year now and the more time that passed, the less i could see my
chances of being able to use it. 
I'm wheelchair strickened due to a car accident as a child and OpenBSD

was a really great way to pass the time (it's more than that though - I
love it).

Please accept my appology and help me. As I said, I'm not a rude lady
and I'm sorry I may have come accross like that.

Cheers,
SophieL 



On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 23:30 -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote:


If you don't know why your mail is rude, you better read it a few
times through.

Totally sick of doing stuff for people who are rude to us.



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Re: Theo, I am truely sorry. You misunderstood me.

2005-10-20 Thread Kurt B. Kaiser
Sophie L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Please accept my appology and help me. As I said, I'm not a rude lady
> and I'm sorry I may have come accross like that.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Submit=GO&Range=1&InnerCata=421&bop=and&Range=1&description=pcmcia&srchInDesc=usb

[  http://tinyurl.com/77r9f  ]


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Theo, I am truely sorry. You misunderstood me.

2005-10-19 Thread Sophie L
Hi Theo,

Straight up, I'm very sorry. It was not my intention to be rude and I'm
not a rude person. All I am is desperate to be able to use OpenBSD
again. The fact is I have been a supporter and advocate for OpenBSD for
many years and I admire you for what you've done. I just want to be able
to use OpenBSD again. I've been very patient waiting for support for
over a year now and the more time that passed, the less i could see my
chances of being able to use it. I don't have much in my life that makes
it worth while being here and one of my few sources of pleaseure has
just been cut off.
I'm wheelchair strickened due to a car accident as a child and OpenBSD
was a really great way to pass the time (it's more than that though - I
love it).

Please accept my appology and help me. As I said, I'm not a rude lady
and I'm sorry I may have come accross like that.

Cheers,
SophieL 


On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 23:30 -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote:
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> 
> Totally sick of doing stuff for people who are rude to us.
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> > Cc: "Theo de Raadt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
> > Subject: Re: "ATI SB200 USB" ports on Toshiba Satellite
> > Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:52:46 +1000
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> > 
> > Hi Jonathan,
> > (please read my message in full and see my desperation - All I want
is 
> > my usb port working - I've got no mouse)
> > 
> > You may not have got my last email. My question was:
> > 
> > If ATI don't release information about their hardware designs, then
how
> > did the OpenBSD developers get the info needed to write the driver
for
> > my dreadfully incompatible ATI IXP soundcard in this system (sound
works
> > under 3.8 snapshots)?
> > Also, USB works under NetBSD 2.0/Linux (FC3-4, SuSe - I've tried
it). 
> > How did they get it working?
> > How come OpenBSD developers can't?
> > It's all I want. I'd even be prepared to pay for it (If you count
all of 
> > the OpenBSD CD releases that I've already bought in the past, I've 
> > already paid for it)
> > 
> > Please, please help me.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Sophie
> > 
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Sophie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Jonathan Gray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: 
> > Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 10:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: "ATI SB200 USB" ports on Toshiba Satellite
> > 
> > 
> > > Thanks for the response Jonathan,
> > >
> > > Not questioning you. Just asking for enlightenment!
> > >
> > > If ATI don't release information about their hardware
> > > designs, then how did the OpenBSD developers
> > > get the info needed to write the driver for my dreadfully
incompatible
> > > ATI IXP soundcard in this system (sound works under 3.8
snapshots)?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Soph
> > >
> > > - Original Message - 
> > > From: "Jonathan Gray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Sophie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Cc: "Chris Kuethe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 08,

Re: Ethereal 0.10.12 [X-Post, Sorry!]

2005-09-08 Thread Sebastian .Rother

Sebastian .Rother schrieb:


Jakob Schlyter schrieb:


On Thu, 8 Sep 2005, Matt Jibson wrote:

I believe that Ethereal has improved greatly since when it was 
removed from

ports.




surely, but has security improved? does it have privsep? until that 
has changed, ethereal will not come back. sorry.


jakob




Then drop all ports!
Has Gnome Priv-Sep? hydra? nmap? KDE? xpdf? XMMS? mplayer?
If you choose ports because of security and priv.-sep. then you should 
think about dropping

the most ports and keeping just some (~150?) ports.

Kind regards,
Sebastian



Sorry, wrong mailinglist!
Sorry for the misstake...

Kind regards,
Sebastian



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