Re: Sun SMP Hardware [was RE: Version 4.0 release ]

2006-10-12 Thread Jason George
 So far, every reply has been, It's yours if you pay
 to ship it.
 Count me in; I will help pay shipping as well.

Count me in too, I have slightly limited funds but will help as much as I can. 
Please contact me off list if I can be of any use.


There isn't a shortage of multi-processor sparc64 machines that are available 
for development use, per se.  Theo and I literally had to force Kjell to take 
a dual U60 machine off my hands earlier this year.

The issue is that the longevity of the port is much more dependent on getting 
proper support for Ultrasparc III and more recent incarnations of the 
processor and glue logic.

It wasn't until Jason Wright and Mark Kettenis started plowing away at the 
2006 Hackathon on US3 gear I donated that the port progressed.  Theo had a US3 
machine for over a year but we could barely get past a hung boot kernel 
because there were so many nuances in the processor, cache and glue logic.  
As I type this, I'm testing Mark's latest tweaks to try to get the US3 
processor running better than an M5 burning bunker oil as fuel.  We didn't 
ship a Blade 1000 back with Mark because it would seriously upset the center 
of gravity on his bike for his summer tour!

Given the choice between giving EOL'ed hardware a second chance at life and 
supporting the effort to get the port to work on current Sun hardware, we're 
currently choosing the latter.

i386 and amd64 clearly win from an effort-expended standpoint for SMP 
enhancements.  And just how many significant patches have been committed 
recently to improve the performance on those platforms?  Not enough to start 
focusing attention on other platforms with multi-processor options.

The extension to the give us open documentation is give us money so that we 
can reallocate human resources in a more efficient, business-like manner in 
order to try to find other solution paths around problem sets.

If your turnaround time for functionality isn't being met by volunteers 
working in areas they find interesting, there is always the suitable and 
adequate funding approach.  There are vehicles available and in place for 
this type of work other than personal cheques to Theo, Paypal and CD 
sales.  Serious inquiries may contact me off list for more information.  
No tire-kickers, please.

In the meantime, Money, meet Mouth.  Sorry to be harsh, but from time to time, 
the list needs to have this idea pounded solidly back into place in people's 
minds.

--J
Jason George, P.Eng.
Calgary 



Re: Sun SMP Hardware [was RE: Version 4.0 release ]

2006-10-11 Thread Patsy
 So far, every reply has been, It's yours if you pay
 to ship it.
 Count me in; I will help pay shipping as well.

Count me in too, I have slightly limited funds but will help as much as I can. 
Please contact me off list if I can be of any use.

Patsy



Sun SMP Hardware [was RE: Version 4.0 release ]

2006-10-10 Thread Matt Radtke
Good morning all

I've gotten a few replies with people interested in
parting with E450s, 250s, 280s, and 220s (I have an
Ultra 2 to throw onto the pile, for what its worth). 
So far, every reply has been, It's yours if you pay
to ship it.

If any devs would find any of these useful, or know of
a dev who would find them useful, please let me know. 
I'm happy to get this rolling--either by myself or
with the help of others.

-Matt
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Re: Sun SMP Hardware [was RE: Version 4.0 release ]

2006-10-10 Thread Charles Dietlein

I've gotten a few replies with people interested in
parting with E450s, 250s, 280s, and 220s (I have an
Ultra 2 to throw onto the pile, for what its worth).
So far, every reply has been, It's yours if you pay
to ship it.

If any devs would find any of these useful, or know of
a dev who would find them useful, please let me know.
I'm happy to get this rolling--either by myself or
with the help of others.


Count me in; I will help pay shipping as well.