Re: Why does time/ident/daytime/comsat run after an OpenBSD 5.2 install?

2013-01-07 Thread Random, Eyes
frantisek holop's answer is the most logical yet:

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hi,

i seem to recall reading in some RFC or maybe in
one of the stevens books that these services are
required for a server.  i look at it as being
a good internet neighbour, a bit like can you tell
me the time please when someone stops you on the street...
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p.s.: I created a bounty for this question on the stackexchange site.
p.s.2: @Jeremie Courreges-Anglas: are you ok bro'? didn't got your pills?

2013/1/6 Lars Hansson romaby...@gmail.com:
 ntpd and sshd are only running if you enabled them when installing. For the
 rest, just turn off inetd.
 Why are they enabled by default? Search the mailing lists, it has been
 asked and answered before.

 
 Lars



Re: Why does time/ident/daytime/comsat run after an OpenBSD 5.2 install?

2013-01-07 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
As Lars Hansson said,

  ntpd and sshd are only running if you enabled them when installing. For the
  rest, just turn off inetd.

Like the man said. If you see no use for inetd, don't run it.

  Why are they enabled by default? Search the mailing lists, it has been
  asked and answered before.

Did you search the mailing lists?

In almost all cases, 'search the mailing lists' is a friendly attempt to
provide a pointer to good information.
-- 
Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team
http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.bsdly.net/ http://www.nuug.no/
Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic
delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.



Re: Why does time/ident/daytime/comsat run after an OpenBSD 5.2 install?

2013-01-05 Thread Lars Hansson
ntpd and sshd are only running if you enabled them when installing. For the
rest, just turn off inetd.
Why are they enabled by default? Search the mailing lists, it has been
asked and answered before.


Lars



Re: Why does time/ident/daytime/comsat run after an OpenBSD 5.2 install?

2013-01-04 Thread Gilles Chehade
On Fri, Jan 04, 2013 at 08:44:33AM +0100, Random, Eyes wrote:
 I installed an OpenBSD 5.2 using -*  +etc*  +base*  +bsd.
 
 Can someone tell my why are these:
 
 [...]

 important in the default install to be enabled? With this the KISS
 principle is not followed...
 

Interesting question ...


 Please read the thread in the:
 
 http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/60175/why-does-time-ident-daytime-comsat-run-after-an-openbsd-5-2-install
 
 if further comments needed.


... by obvious know-it-all troll.


-- 
Gilles Chehade

https://www.poolp.org  @poolpOrg



Re: Why does time/ident/daytime/comsat run after an OpenBSD 5.2 install?

2013-01-04 Thread Random, Eyes
obviously you or someone from this list knows the answer that why are
these rarely used services needed to be enabled by default.

p.s.: are you Gilles ( http://unix.stackexchange.com/users/885/gilles )?

2013/1/4 Gilles Chehade gil...@poolp.org:
 On Fri, Jan 04, 2013 at 08:44:33AM +0100, Random, Eyes wrote:
 I installed an OpenBSD 5.2 using -*  +etc*  +base*  +bsd.

 Can someone tell my why are these:

 [...]

 important in the default install to be enabled? With this the KISS
 principle is not followed...


 Interesting question ...


 Please read the thread in the:

 http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/60175/why-does-time-ident-daytime-comsat-run-after-an-openbsd-5-2-install

 if further comments needed.


 ... by obvious know-it-all troll.


 --
 Gilles Chehade

 https://www.poolp.org  @poolpOrg



Re: Why does time/ident/daytime/comsat run after an OpenBSD 5.2 install?

2013-01-04 Thread Gilles Chehade
On Fri, Jan 04, 2013 at 10:37:13AM +0100, Random, Eyes wrote:
 obviously you or someone from this list knows the answer that why are
 these rarely used services needed to be enabled by default.
 

I don't, as a matter of fact I don't rely on inetd so it's disabled on
my machines.


 p.s.: are you Gilles ( http://unix.stackexchange.com/users/885/gilles )?


No


-- 
Gilles Chehade

https://www.poolp.org  @poolpOrg



Re: Why does time/ident/daytime/comsat run after an OpenBSD 5.2 install?

2013-01-04 Thread Random, Eyes
Should this question posted on the dev mailing list?

2013/1/4 Gilles Chehade gil...@poolp.org:
 On Fri, Jan 04, 2013 at 10:37:13AM +0100, Random, Eyes wrote:
 obviously you or someone from this list knows the answer that why are
 these rarely used services needed to be enabled by default.


 I don't, as a matter of fact I don't rely on inetd so it's disabled on
 my machines.


 p.s.: are you Gilles ( http://unix.stackexchange.com/users/885/gilles )?


 No


 --
 Gilles Chehade

 https://www.poolp.org  @poolpOrg



Re: Why does time/ident/daytime/comsat run after an OpenBSD 5.2 install?

2013-01-04 Thread Jeremie Courreges-Anglas
On vendredi 04 janvier 2013 à 01:23:56, Random, Eyes wrote:
 Should this question posted on the dev mailing list?

I don't think so.  What are you trying to do?  Broadcasting
line noise?

wrt to your question: the fact that you have no use for these
services doesn't mean they aren't useful to developers and
other users.

Or perhaps did you just want to show off on your crapexchange
website?  Oops, I just followed your link and indeed...
Congrats, you've just wasted a few minutes of my life.

KISS...

*plonk*



Re: Why does time/ident/daytime/comsat run after an OpenBSD 5.2 install?

2013-01-04 Thread frantisek holop
hi,

i seem to recall reading in some RFC or maybe in
one of the stevens books that these services are
required for a server.  i look at it as being
a good internet neighbour, a bit like can you tell
me the time please when someone stops you on the street...

-f
-- 
and god said, i'll buy a vowel.



Why does time/ident/daytime/comsat run after an OpenBSD 5.2 install?

2013-01-03 Thread Random, Eyes
I installed an OpenBSD 5.2 using -*  +etc*  +base*  +bsd.

Can someone tell my why are these:

egrep -i '^time|^daytime|^ident|comsat' /etc/inetd.conf
ident  stream  tcp nowait  _identd /usr/libexec/identd
identd -el
ident  stream  tcp6nowait  _identd /usr/libexec/identd
identd -el
127.0.0.1:comsat dgram udp waitroot/usr/libexec/comsat
comsat
[::1]:comsat   dgram   udp6waitroot/usr/libexec/comsat
comsat
daytimestream  tcp nowait  rootinternal
daytimestream  tcp6nowait  rootinternal
time   stream  tcp nowait  rootinternal
time   stream  tcp6nowait  rootinternal
daytimedgram   udp waitrootinternal
daytimedgram   udp6waitrootinternal
time   dgram   udp waitrootinternal
time   dgram   udp6waitrootinternal

important in the default install to be enabled? With this the KISS
principle is not followed...

Please read the thread in the:

http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/60175/why-does-time-ident-daytime-comsat-run-after-an-openbsd-5-2-install

if further comments needed.