Re: bsdstats.org WOW

2006-10-19 Thread Breen Ouellette

Miod Vallat wrote:

For historical reference, info taken from bsdstats.org:


[...]

What is the point discussing completely bogus so-called statistics?


At best, I would suggest that some are proud to be OpenBSD users.

At worst, I would say that being an OpenBSD user gives some people an 
excuse to ego stroke. Call it ego masturbation, if you will. Stats like 
this are the porn they use to get off.


The reality is probably somewhere in the middle, but it is no different 
than cheering for a sports team. Whether or not the stats are accurate, 
some people seem to feel a need to cheer on the work of others in an 
attempt to claim a piece of the fame for themselves.


I really seem to be on a roll this month. I'm sure I'll insult at least 
a couple dozen people with these comments.  :)


Breeno



Re: bsdstats.org WOW

2006-10-19 Thread Clint M. Sand
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 12:04:45AM -0600, Breen Ouellette wrote:
 Miod Vallat wrote:
 For historical reference, info taken from bsdstats.org:
 
 [...]
 
 What is the point discussing completely bogus so-called statistics?
 
 At best, I would suggest that some are proud to be OpenBSD users.
 
 At worst, I would say that being an OpenBSD user gives some people an 
 excuse to ego stroke. Call it ego masturbation, if you will. Stats like 
 this are the porn they use to get off.
 
 The reality is probably somewhere in the middle, but it is no different 
 than cheering for a sports team. Whether or not the stats are accurate, 
 some people seem to feel a need to cheer on the work of others in an 
 attempt to claim a piece of the fame for themselves.
 
 I really seem to be on a roll this month. I'm sure I'll insult at least 
 a couple dozen people with these comments.  :)
 
 Breeno

This might be true if a goal of OpenBSD was to be the most widely used
OS. It's not. Next month FreeBSD might be the most widely used. Using
your logic we should be sad. Who cares. OpenBSD is not for everyone and
we like it that way. 



Re: bsdstats.org WOW

2006-10-19 Thread MikeM
On 10/18/2006 at 7:37 PM Sam Fourman Jr. wrote:

|Check out OpenBSD :)
|
|http://www.bsdstats.org/

 =

OK, I see a table full of numbers, but no explanation of what is being
measured or how.  Yes, OpenBSD is on the top, but on the top of what?



Re: bsdstats.org WOW

2006-10-19 Thread mickey
On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 08:52:14AM -0400, MikeM wrote:
 On 10/18/2006 at 7:37 PM Sam Fourman Jr. wrote:
 
 |Check out OpenBSD :)
 |
 |http://www.bsdstats.org/
 
  =
 
 OK, I see a table full of numbers, but no explanation of what is being
 measured or how.  Yes, OpenBSD is on the top, but on the top of what?

it's all written there how it works and how one can participate.

so why ain't you jerk off on random numbers somewhere else please?

cu
-- 
paranoic mickey   (my employers have changed but, the name has remained)



Re: bsdstats.org WOW

2006-10-19 Thread Constantine A. Murenin

On 18/10/06, Constantine A. Murenin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 18/10/06, Sam Fourman Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Check out OpenBSD :)

 http://www.bsdstats.org/

For historical reference, info taken from bsdstats.org:


If you have any questions, comments, or suggestions, please send email
to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Operating System
Systems This Month
Percentage

OpenBSD 3,03544.4 %
FreeBSD 1,82726.7 %
NetBSD  1,65424.2 %
GNU/kFreeBSD  128 1.9 %
DragonFly BSD 126 1.8 %
PC-BSD 57 0.8 %
MirBSD  5 0.1 %

Total:  6,832   100.0 %




Eh, in just about 13 hours after I've taken the previous reading off
bsdstats.org, it now reads:


Operating System
Systems This Month
Percentage

OpenBSD 3,52048.0 %
FreeBSD 1,84525.1 %
NetBSD  1,65422.5 %
GNU/kFreeBSD  128 1.7 %
DragonFly BSD 126 1.7 %
PC-BSD 60 0.8 %
MirBSD  5 0.1 %

Total:  7,338   100.0 %


Way to go, guys! :)



Re: bsdstats.org WOW

2006-10-19 Thread Breen Ouellette

Clint M. Sand wrote:

On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 12:04:45AM -0600, Breen Ouellette wrote:
  

The reality is probably somewhere in the middle, but it is no different
than cheering for a sports team. Whether or not the stats are accurate, 
some people seem to feel a need to cheer on the work of others in an 
attempt to claim a piece of the fame for themselves.

This might be true if a goal of OpenBSD was to be the most widely used
OS. It's not. Next month FreeBSD might be the most widely used. Using
your logic we should be sad. Who cares. OpenBSD is not for everyone and
we like it that way. 


I agree 100% with you. Just forwarding my belief on why OTHERs care 
about these kind of stats.


Breeno



bsdstats.org WOW

2006-10-18 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.

Check out OpenBSD :)

http://www.bsdstats.org/



Re: bsdstats.org WOW

2006-10-18 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 07:37:28PM -0500, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote:
 Check out OpenBSD :)
 
 http://www.bsdstats.org/

Why?

-- 
Darrin Chandler|  Phoenix BSD Users Group
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   |  http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/
http://www.stilyagin.com/  |



Re: bsdstats.org WOW

2006-10-18 Thread Ted Unangst

On 10/18/06, Sam Fourman Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Check out OpenBSD :)

http://www.bsdstats.org/


based on the country distributions, i'm gonna guess this isn't quite a
representative sample.  just a hunch though.



Re: bsdstats.org WOW

2006-10-18 Thread Constantine A. Murenin

On 18/10/06, Sam Fourman Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Check out OpenBSD :)

http://www.bsdstats.org/


For historical reference, info taken from bsdstats.org:


If you have any questions, comments, or suggestions, please send email
to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Operating System
Systems This Month
Percentage

OpenBSD 3,03544.4 %
FreeBSD 1,82726.7 %
NetBSD  1,65424.2 %
GNU/kFreeBSD  128 1.9 %
DragonFly BSD 126 1.8 %
PC-BSD 57 0.8 %
MirBSD  5 0.1 %

Total:  6,832   100.0 %




Re: bsdstats.org WOW

2006-10-18 Thread Constantine A. Murenin

On 18/10/06, Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 10/18/06, Sam Fourman Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Check out OpenBSD :)

 http://www.bsdstats.org/

based on the country distributions, i'm gonna guess this isn't quite a
representative sample.  just a hunch though.


OpenBSD seems to lead in most sampled countries, though...

Although it is a bit strange that the UK, Russia and Japan are missing
from Top 10...



Re: bsdstats.org WOW

2006-10-18 Thread Shane J Pearson

On 19/10/2006, at 11:28 AM, Constantine A. Murenin wrote:


OpenBSD seems to lead in most sampled countries, though...

Although it is a bit strange that the UK, Russia and Japan are missing
from Top 10...


Yes, I thought Russia would be up there.

http://www.google.com/trends?q=OpenBSD


Shane J Pearson
shanejp netspace net au



Re: bsdstats.org WOW

2006-10-18 Thread Miod Vallat
 For historical reference, info taken from bsdstats.org:
[...]

What is the point discussing completely bogus so-called statistics?

Miod