Re: cvs files from attic show up in update

2015-07-03 Thread dan mclaughlin 
On Fri, 3 Jul 2015 13:37:45 +0200 (CEST) n.reu...@hxgn.net wrote:
  dan mclaughlin thev...@openmailbox.org hat am 3. Juli 2015 um 13:18
  geschrieben:
  
  
  On Fri, 3 Jul 2015 12:34:17 +0200 (CEST) n.reu...@hxgn.net wrote:
Nigel J Taylor ni...@openbsd.org hat am 3. Juli 2015 um 11:39
geschrieben:


On 07/03/15 09:33, n.reu...@hxgn.net wrote:
 Dear misc,
 
 i have a script running every night on my openbsd 5.7 -stable box
 to
 fetch
 the latest sources from cvs. If some files changed, it will send a
 mail.
 This morning i got the following output from last nights run:
 
 ? gnu/usr.bin/binutils-2.17/gas/testsuite/gas/mmix
 
 Here is the line of code:
 
 # update system sources
 cd /usr/src
 /usr/bin/cvs -d ${CVSROOT} -q up -rOPENBSD_5_7 -Pd \
 | /usr/bin/tee ${LOG}
 
 As far as is understand, the testsuite was importet by mistake and
 moved
 to the attic directly after the import approx. 4 years ago:
 http://cvsweb.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils-2.17/gas/.
 I also don't have the testsuite-folder on my disk.
 
 Now, is this a problem with cvs or somehow buggy, but expected
 behaviour? I have ever seen this message before, and i don't see
 any
 activity on binutils in -stable. Or is it safe to filter out line
 starting
 with '?' ?
 
 Any insight is greatly appreciated. 
 
 
 Thanks and best regards
 Nils
 
 

From man cvs(1)
? filefile is in your working directory, but does not correspond
to
anything in the source repository, and is not in the list of files
for
cvs to ignore (see the description of the -I option).


$ cd /usr/src/usr.bin/sed
$ cvs -R -q up -Pd
$ touch extra
$ cvs -R -q up -Pd
? extra
$ rm extra
$ cvs -R -q up -Pd
$

   
   Hi Nigel,
   
   thanks for your mail. I should have written my initial mail more
   precisely; i knew that unknown files show up with a '?' (like in svn,
   git,
   ...), but my point was that the file did not exist on my disk before
   the
   update, appeared out of nowhere during the update (from the attic i
   guess)
   and disappeared again (without personally touching anything).
   
   Nils
   
  
  it does seem it was removed quite a while ago (2011). it may just be a
  stray
  bug. what is the result of:
  
  $ ls -ld /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils-2.17/gas/testsuite/gas/mmix
  
  is it even a directory, and what is the timestamp on it?
 
 
 Hi Dan,
 
 that's the funny part, the directory does not exist:
 
 $ ls -ld /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils-2.17/gas/testsuite/gas/mmix
 ls: /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils-2.17/gas/testsuite/gas/mmix: No such
 file or directory
 $ ls -ld /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils-2.17/gas/testsuite/
 ls: /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils-2.17/gas/testsuite/: No such file or
 directory
 $ ls -ld /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils-2.17/gas
 drwxr-xr-x  6 root  wsrc  2048 Jul  3 10:36
 /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils-2.17/gas
 
 Nils
 

some strange bug then. i'm no expert on cvs, and i know that it does create
directories that it then removes, but usually it shows me the unknown files
BEFORE doing updates. sometimes these don't get fixed because they are hard
to track down. i've had my share of odd bugs in the day. nothing seems to
have gone seriously wrong, so it mostly good.

cvs files from attic show up in update

2015-07-03 Thread n . reusse 
Dear misc,

i have a script running every night on my openbsd 5.7 -stable box to fetch
the latest sources from cvs. If some files changed, it will send a mail.
This morning i got the following output from last nights run:

? gnu/usr.bin/binutils-2.17/gas/testsuite/gas/mmix

Here is the line of code:

# update system sources
cd /usr/src
/usr/bin/cvs -d ${CVSROOT} -q up -rOPENBSD_5_7 -Pd \
| /usr/bin/tee ${LOG}

As far as is understand, the testsuite was importet by mistake and moved
to the attic directly after the import approx. 4 years ago:
http://cvsweb.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils-2.17/gas/.
I also don't have the testsuite-folder on my disk.

Now, is this a problem with cvs or somehow buggy, but expected
behaviour? I have ever seen this message before, and i don't see any
activity on binutils in -stable. Or is it safe to filter out line starting
with '?' ?

Any insight is greatly appreciated. 


Thanks and best regards
Nils

Re: cvs files from attic show up in update

2015-07-03 Thread Nigel J Taylor 
On 07/03/15 09:33, n.reu...@hxgn.net wrote:
 Dear misc,
 
 i have a script running every night on my openbsd 5.7 -stable box to fetch
 the latest sources from cvs. If some files changed, it will send a mail.
 This morning i got the following output from last nights run:
 
 ? gnu/usr.bin/binutils-2.17/gas/testsuite/gas/mmix
 
 Here is the line of code:
 
 # update system sources
 cd /usr/src
 /usr/bin/cvs -d ${CVSROOT} -q up -rOPENBSD_5_7 -Pd \
 | /usr/bin/tee ${LOG}
 
 As far as is understand, the testsuite was importet by mistake and moved
 to the attic directly after the import approx. 4 years ago:
 http://cvsweb.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils-2.17/gas/.
 I also don't have the testsuite-folder on my disk.
 
 Now, is this a problem with cvs or somehow buggy, but expected
 behaviour? I have ever seen this message before, and i don't see any
 activity on binutils in -stable. Or is it safe to filter out line starting
 with '?' ?
 
 Any insight is greatly appreciated. 
 
 
 Thanks and best regards
 Nils
 
 

From man cvs(1)
? filefile is in your working directory, but does not correspond to
anything in the source repository, and is not in the list of files for
cvs to ignore (see the description of the -I option).


$ cd /usr/src/usr.bin/sed
$ cvs -R -q up -Pd
$ touch extra
$ cvs -R -q up -Pd
? extra
$ rm extra
$ cvs -R -q up -Pd
$

Re: cvs files from attic show up in update

2015-07-03 Thread dan mclaughlin 
On Fri, 3 Jul 2015 12:34:17 +0200 (CEST) n.reu...@hxgn.net wrote:
  Nigel J Taylor ni...@openbsd.org hat am 3. Juli 2015 um 11:39
  geschrieben:
  
  
  On 07/03/15 09:33, n.reu...@hxgn.net wrote:
   Dear misc,
   
   i have a script running every night on my openbsd 5.7 -stable box to
   fetch
   the latest sources from cvs. If some files changed, it will send a
   mail.
   This morning i got the following output from last nights run:
   
   ? gnu/usr.bin/binutils-2.17/gas/testsuite/gas/mmix
   
   Here is the line of code:
   
   # update system sources
   cd /usr/src
   /usr/bin/cvs -d ${CVSROOT} -q up -rOPENBSD_5_7 -Pd \
   | /usr/bin/tee ${LOG}
   
   As far as is understand, the testsuite was importet by mistake and
   moved
   to the attic directly after the import approx. 4 years ago:
   http://cvsweb.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils-2.17/gas/.
   I also don't have the testsuite-folder on my disk.
   
   Now, is this a problem with cvs or somehow buggy, but expected
   behaviour? I have ever seen this message before, and i don't see any
   activity on binutils in -stable. Or is it safe to filter out line
   starting
   with '?' ?
   
   Any insight is greatly appreciated. 
   
   
   Thanks and best regards
   Nils
   
   
  
  From man cvs(1)
  ? filefile is in your working directory, but does not correspond to
  anything in the source repository, and is not in the list of files for
  cvs to ignore (see the description of the -I option).
  
  
  $ cd /usr/src/usr.bin/sed
  $ cvs -R -q up -Pd
  $ touch extra
  $ cvs -R -q up -Pd
  ? extra
  $ rm extra
  $ cvs -R -q up -Pd
  $
  
 
 Hi Nigel,
 
 thanks for your mail. I should have written my initial mail more
 precisely; i knew that unknown files show up with a '?' (like in svn, git,
 ...), but my point was that the file did not exist on my disk before the
 update, appeared out of nowhere during the update (from the attic i guess)
 and disappeared again (without personally touching anything).
 
 Nils
 

it does seem it was removed quite a while ago (2011). it may just be a stray
bug. what is the result of:

$ ls -ld /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils-2.17/gas/testsuite/gas/mmix

is it even a directory, and what is the timestamp on it?

Re: cvs files from attic show up in update

2015-07-03 Thread n . reusse 
 Nigel J Taylor ni...@openbsd.org hat am 3. Juli 2015 um 11:39
 geschrieben:
 
 
 On 07/03/15 09:33, n.reu...@hxgn.net wrote:
  Dear misc,
  
  i have a script running every night on my openbsd 5.7 -stable box to
  fetch
  the latest sources from cvs. If some files changed, it will send a
  mail.
  This morning i got the following output from last nights run:
  
  ? gnu/usr.bin/binutils-2.17/gas/testsuite/gas/mmix
  
  Here is the line of code:
  
  # update system sources
  cd /usr/src
  /usr/bin/cvs -d ${CVSROOT} -q up -rOPENBSD_5_7 -Pd \
  | /usr/bin/tee ${LOG}
  
  As far as is understand, the testsuite was importet by mistake and
  moved
  to the attic directly after the import approx. 4 years ago:
  http://cvsweb.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils-2.17/gas/.
  I also don't have the testsuite-folder on my disk.
  
  Now, is this a problem with cvs or somehow buggy, but expected
  behaviour? I have ever seen this message before, and i don't see any
  activity on binutils in -stable. Or is it safe to filter out line
  starting
  with '?' ?
  
  Any insight is greatly appreciated. 
  
  
  Thanks and best regards
  Nils
  
  
 
 From man cvs(1)
 ? filefile is in your working directory, but does not correspond to
 anything in the source repository, and is not in the list of files for
 cvs to ignore (see the description of the -I option).
 
 
 $ cd /usr/src/usr.bin/sed
 $ cvs -R -q up -Pd
 $ touch extra
 $ cvs -R -q up -Pd
 ? extra
 $ rm extra
 $ cvs -R -q up -Pd
 $
 

Hi Nigel,

thanks for your mail. I should have written my initial mail more
precisely; i knew that unknown files show up with a '?' (like in svn, git,
...), but my point was that the file did not exist on my disk before the
update, appeared out of nowhere during the update (from the attic i guess)
and disappeared again (without personally touching anything).

Nils

Re: cvs files from attic show up in update

2015-07-03 Thread n . reusse 
 dan mclaughlin thev...@openmailbox.org hat am 3. Juli 2015 um 13:18
 geschrieben:
 
 
 On Fri, 3 Jul 2015 12:34:17 +0200 (CEST) n.reu...@hxgn.net wrote:
   Nigel J Taylor ni...@openbsd.org hat am 3. Juli 2015 um 11:39
   geschrieben:
   
   
   On 07/03/15 09:33, n.reu...@hxgn.net wrote:
Dear misc,

i have a script running every night on my openbsd 5.7 -stable box
to
fetch
the latest sources from cvs. If some files changed, it will send a
mail.
This morning i got the following output from last nights run:

? gnu/usr.bin/binutils-2.17/gas/testsuite/gas/mmix

Here is the line of code:

# update system sources
cd /usr/src
/usr/bin/cvs -d ${CVSROOT} -q up -rOPENBSD_5_7 -Pd \
| /usr/bin/tee ${LOG}

As far as is understand, the testsuite was importet by mistake and
moved
to the attic directly after the import approx. 4 years ago:
http://cvsweb.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils-2.17/gas/.
I also don't have the testsuite-folder on my disk.

Now, is this a problem with cvs or somehow buggy, but expected
behaviour? I have ever seen this message before, and i don't see
any
activity on binutils in -stable. Or is it safe to filter out line
starting
with '?' ?

Any insight is greatly appreciated. 


Thanks and best regards
Nils


   
   From man cvs(1)
   ? filefile is in your working directory, but does not correspond
   to
   anything in the source repository, and is not in the list of files
   for
   cvs to ignore (see the description of the -I option).
   
   
   $ cd /usr/src/usr.bin/sed
   $ cvs -R -q up -Pd
   $ touch extra
   $ cvs -R -q up -Pd
   ? extra
   $ rm extra
   $ cvs -R -q up -Pd
   $
   
  
  Hi Nigel,
  
  thanks for your mail. I should have written my initial mail more
  precisely; i knew that unknown files show up with a '?' (like in svn,
  git,
  ...), but my point was that the file did not exist on my disk before
  the
  update, appeared out of nowhere during the update (from the attic i
  guess)
  and disappeared again (without personally touching anything).
  
  Nils
  
 
 it does seem it was removed quite a while ago (2011). it may just be a
 stray
 bug. what is the result of:
 
 $ ls -ld /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils-2.17/gas/testsuite/gas/mmix
 
 is it even a directory, and what is the timestamp on it?


Hi Dan,

that's the funny part, the directory does not exist:

$ ls -ld /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils-2.17/gas/testsuite/gas/mmix
ls: /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils-2.17/gas/testsuite/gas/mmix: No such
file or directory
$ ls -ld /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils-2.17/gas/testsuite/
ls: /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils-2.17/gas/testsuite/: No such file or
directory
$ ls -ld /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils-2.17/gas
drwxr-xr-x  6 root  wsrc  2048 Jul  3 10:36
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils-2.17/gas

Nils