Re: disks not detected during install

2006-11-22 Thread Patrick Cummings

On 11/10/06, Patrick Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi misc,

I'm trying to setup a new openbsd 3.9 install on i386. It worked before 
on

that computer when I installed quickly to test for compatibility, but I
needed to finish up some hardware stuff on it and then I wanted to 
install

for real but it does not work anymore.

It hangs at the disk: line

"Loading /3.9/I386/CDBOOT
probing: pc0 com0 apm mem[639K 382M a20=on]
disk:"

and then it stays there forever.

The computer has two storage controllers. One is an ami-compatible raid
controller. The other is the pciide-compatible sata sil3114 chip. Both
appear to be working.

If I unplug the scsi drives from the controller and leave the controller 
in,

it will work.
Also if I unplug the sata drives and leave the controller in, it will 
work.


However all appears to be working quite well as I can install win2000 on 
it
and all drives work well. Also as I've said openbsd 3.9 worked on it just 
a

few days ago, but I can't find what I've changed. I thought it might be a
bios settings problem so I played with the settings, but nothing seemed 
to

help.

Overall I think this makes no sense, what are some of the problems that
might be happening?


Can you boot from any of the install boot floppies?
If so, can you provide a dmesg?



Sure, I can get a dmesg if I use it with the two sata drives unplugged:

OpenBSD 3.9 (GENERIC) #617: Thu Mar  2 02:26:48 MST 2006
. (end deleted)



I just tried back a few days ago, now it's working. I think it might be 
caused by a flawed bios on the motherboard. Also I noticed the operating 
sytem won't boot if either the mouse or keyboard is unplugged. It simply 
hangs when it should boot with no errors. That might be bios problems too if 
I'm not wrong. I think I will buy a new motherboard. This time I'll try with 
a gigabyte board instead of ECS. The hardware was a few years old anyway. 
ECS refused to provide support when I contacted them because the motherboard 
is EOL'ed.


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Re: disks not detected during install

2006-10-17 Thread Nick Holland
I'm a little behind in my reading, obviously...

Patrick Cummings wrote:
>>On 11/10/06, Patrick Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>Hi misc,
>>>
>>>I'm trying to setup a new openbsd 3.9 install on i386. It worked before on
>>>that computer when I installed quickly to test for compatibility, but I
>>>needed to finish up some hardware stuff on it and then I wanted to install
>>>for real but it does not work anymore.
>>>
>>>It hangs at the disk: line
>>>
>>>"Loading /3.9/I386/CDBOOT
>>>probing: pc0 com0 apm mem[639K 382M a20=on]
>>>disk:"
>>>
>>>and then it stays there forever.
>>>
>>>The computer has two storage controllers. One is an ami-compatible raid
>>>controller. The other is the pciide-compatible sata sil3114 chip. Both
>>>appear to be working.
>>>
>>>If I unplug the scsi drives from the controller and leave the controller 
>>>in,
>>>it will work.
>>>Also if I unplug the sata drives and leave the controller in, it will 
>>>work.
>>>
>>>However all appears to be working quite well as I can install win2000 on 
>>>it
>>>and all drives work well. Also as I've said openbsd 3.9 worked on it just 
>>>a
>>>few days ago, but I can't find what I've changed. I thought it might be a
>>>bios settings problem so I played with the settings, but nothing seemed to
>>>help.
>>>
>>>Overall I think this makes no sense, what are some of the problems that
>>>might be happening?
>>
>>Can you boot from any of the install boot floppies?
>>If so, can you provide a dmesg?

Considering how it is hanging, I wouldn't expect booting from floppy if
the CDROM didn't work...

> 
> Sure, I can get a dmesg if I use it with the two sata drives unplugged:

ok, that sounds familiar...
...
> pciide1 at pci0 dev 13 function 0 "CMD Technology SiI3114 SATA" rev 0x02: DMA

that looks familiar...
(ick.)

I think what you have is BIOSs stomping on each other's feet in a way
that the OpenBSD boot loader isn't happy about.  You actually have (at
least) three boot ROMs on this thing -- the RAID card, the SATA card and
the motherboard's BIOS.  Unplug the drives, the BIOS turns itself off
after probing and finding no disks, which is probably why it boots.

Consider yourself lucky, I spent a lot of time just trying to get TO the
OpenBSD boot loader with those dang cards.  I picked up two different
cards that used that chip...  What a mess.  Both demonstrated a
different problem, they refused to work with a 1T SATA RAID box that
looked like a single SATA disk.  I'm not sure if it was the size or the
product, but they would hang in the BIOS probe of the SATA channels if
the drive was attached.

Flashing the BIOS on one card "fixed" the problem, but the card I could
flash had only one internal SATA port, I needed two.  The other card had
an OTP-EPROM (i.e., you ain't changing this).

After a lot of puzzlement (and buying a third card which had other
quirks I feared), I finally decided a good solution was to pop the EPROM
off the non-updatable card, as I didn't want to boot from it anyway.
No, it wasn't socketed, but a little gentle work with a screwdriver did
the job nicely.

So, what I would recommend would be:
  1) try to update the BIOS on your card.  The one that shipped on the
two I had sucked...the newer one worked much better.
  2) updating the other boot ROMs (mobo BIOS, RAID card BIOS) might
help, too.
  3) look for "boot order" options in your BIOS or the ami(4) card's
BIOS that let the boot process progress (or even the SATA card's BIOS)
  4) If you don't need to boot from this card, consider ripping the
ROM/flash/EPROM/whatever off the card.  IF you don't need it, of course.
  5) fiddle with the order of the cards in the slots.  It might help.

Nick.



Re: disks not detected during install

2006-10-11 Thread Patrick Cummings

On 11/10/06, Patrick Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi misc,

I'm trying to setup a new openbsd 3.9 install on i386. It worked before on
that computer when I installed quickly to test for compatibility, but I
needed to finish up some hardware stuff on it and then I wanted to install
for real but it does not work anymore.

It hangs at the disk: line

"Loading /3.9/I386/CDBOOT
probing: pc0 com0 apm mem[639K 382M a20=on]
disk:"

and then it stays there forever.

The computer has two storage controllers. One is an ami-compatible raid
controller. The other is the pciide-compatible sata sil3114 chip. Both
appear to be working.

If I unplug the scsi drives from the controller and leave the controller 
in,

it will work.
Also if I unplug the sata drives and leave the controller in, it will 
work.


However all appears to be working quite well as I can install win2000 on 
it
and all drives work well. Also as I've said openbsd 3.9 worked on it just 
a

few days ago, but I can't find what I've changed. I thought it might be a
bios settings problem so I played with the settings, but nothing seemed to
help.

Overall I think this makes no sense, what are some of the problems that
might be happening?


Can you boot from any of the install boot floppies?
If so, can you provide a dmesg?



Sure, I can get a dmesg if I use it with the two sata drives unplugged:

OpenBSD 3.9 (GENERIC) #617: Thu Mar  2 02:26:48 MST 2006
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel Pentium III ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1 GHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXS   
   R,SSE

real mem  = 402169856 (392744K)
avail mem = 359616512 (351188K)
using 4278 buffers containing 20209664 bytes (19736K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(71) BIOS, date 04/12/01, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfb1b0
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2
apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown
apm0: flags 70102 dobusy 1 doidle 1
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0xdbd4
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdb40/144 (7 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Exclusive IRQs: 10 11 15
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:07:0 ("VIA VT82C596A ISA" rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xa000 0xcc000/0x2200
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "VIA VT82C691 PCI" rev 0xc4
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 "VIA VT82C598 AGP" rev 0x00
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 "S3 Savage 4" rev 0x03
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
pcib0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 "VIA VT82C686 ISA" rev 0x40
pciide0 at pci0 dev 7 function 1 "VIA VT82C571 IDE" rev 0x06: ATA100, 
channel 0   configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to 
compatibility

atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0
scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0:  SCSI0 5/cdrom 
removab  le

cd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2
pciide0: channel 1 ignored (disabled)
uhci0 at pci0 dev 7 function 2 "VIA VT83C572 USB" rev 0x16: irq 11
usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0 at usb0
uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1 at pci0 dev 7 function 3 "VIA VT83C572 USB" rev 0x16: irq 11
usb1 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1 at usb1
uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
viaenv0 at pci0 dev 7 function 4 "VIA VT82C686 SMBus" rev 0x40
rl0 at pci0 dev 11 function 0 "Realtek 8139" rev 0x10: irq 10, address 
00:02:44:  26:2f:12

rlphy0 at rl0 phy 0: RTL internal PHY
ami0 at pci0 dev 12 function 0 "AMI MegaRAID Series 428" rev 0x04: irq 11 
AMI 42  8 32b

ami0: FW UF82, BIOS v1.66, 16MB RAM
ami0: 2 channels, 16 targets, 1 logical drives
scsibus1 at ami0: 1 targets
sd0 at scsibus1 targ 0 lun 0:  SCSI2 0/direct fixed
sd0: 34730MB, 34730 cyl, 64 head, 32 sec, 512 bytes/sec, 71127040 sec total
pciide1 at pci0 dev 13 function 0 "CMD Technology SiI3114 SATA" rev 0x02: 
DMA

pciide1: using irq 15 for native-PCI interrupt
isa0 at pcib0
isadma0 at isa0
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
midi0 at pcppi0: 
spkr0 at pcppi0
npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: using exception 16
pccom0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
biomask fbed netmask ffed ttymask ffef
pctr: 686-class user-level performance counters enabled
mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support
dkcsum: sd0 matches BIOS drive 0x80
root on sd0a
rootdev=0x400 rrootdev=0xd00 rawdev=0xd02



Re: disks not detected during install

2006-10-11 Thread ropers

On 11/10/06, Patrick Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi misc,

I'm trying to setup a new openbsd 3.9 install on i386. It worked before on
that computer when I installed quickly to test for compatibility, but I
needed to finish up some hardware stuff on it and then I wanted to install
for real but it does not work anymore.

It hangs at the disk: line

"Loading /3.9/I386/CDBOOT
probing: pc0 com0 apm mem[639K 382M a20=on]
disk:"

and then it stays there forever.

The computer has two storage controllers. One is an ami-compatible raid
controller. The other is the pciide-compatible sata sil3114 chip. Both
appear to be working.

If I unplug the scsi drives from the controller and leave the controller in,
it will work.
Also if I unplug the sata drives and leave the controller in, it will work.

However all appears to be working quite well as I can install win2000 on it
and all drives work well. Also as I've said openbsd 3.9 worked on it just a
few days ago, but I can't find what I've changed. I thought it might be a
bios settings problem so I played with the settings, but nothing seemed to
help.

Overall I think this makes no sense, what are some of the problems that
might be happening?


Can you boot from any of the install boot floppies?
If so, can you provide a dmesg?



disks not detected during install

2006-10-11 Thread Patrick Cummings

Hi misc,

I'm trying to setup a new openbsd 3.9 install on i386. It worked before on 
that computer when I installed quickly to test for compatibility, but I 
needed to finish up some hardware stuff on it and then I wanted to install 
for real but it does not work anymore.


It hangs at the disk: line

"Loading /3.9/I386/CDBOOT
probing: pc0 com0 apm mem[639K 382M a20=on]
disk:"

and then it stays there forever.

The computer has two storage controllers. One is an ami-compatible raid 
controller. The other is the pciide-compatible sata sil3114 chip. Both 
appear to be working.


If I unplug the scsi drives from the controller and leave the controller in, 
it will work.

Also if I unplug the sata drives and leave the controller in, it will work.

However all appears to be working quite well as I can install win2000 on it 
and all drives work well. Also as I've said openbsd 3.9 worked on it just a 
few days ago, but I can't find what I've changed. I thought it might be a 
bios settings problem so I played with the settings, but nothing seemed to 
help.


Overall I think this makes no sense, what are some of the problems that 
might be happening?