Re: faxing
First thanks for the help Second I am not going to start implementing a FAX solution until I get 5.3 and even then it will take me some time since this is volunteer work and I have to find time. I will probably get to it in mid-May. I will first try hylafax with T38modem. If that fails try with IAXmodem and in turn if that fails then with a Cisco PAP2T. I will report on my success or failure.
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iaxmodem works great with asterisk, at least under 4.7 with asterisk 1.6. A little bit tricky at startup to get the right sequence with hylafax, asterisk, iaxmodem. André 2013/4/22 Sebastian Reitenbach : > On Monday, April 22, 2013 19:30 CEST, Peter Fraser wrote: > >> Several years ago I put an OpenBSD system in as a firewall and mail server >> at a small charity that I volunteer at (kwaccessablility.ca) >> that fixed nearly all the problems that they had with viruses, spam etc. >> >> Last year I talked them in to switching to VOIP (on the OpenBSD server using >> Asterisk). Their phone costs dropped from over $250 >> per month to less than $30 per month (I used the service from unlimitel.ca). >> The change is costs per month made up for the costs >> of the new telephone equipment within the year. >> >> Nearly all their communication that was done by fax is now done by email, >> except for one organization. That organization which is >> run by the city supplies transportation for physically handicapped. That >> organization is insisting on faxes. They will not take email. >> The charity currently has an analog fax just for the purpose of arranging >> transportation, and that line is costing over $60 per month. >> >> I looked at email to fax services, but I believe those queue the faxes up >> and send them as time is available. The charity and >> the transportation organization need immediate sending and receiving. They >> carry out a conversation with hand written >> notes (requiring the charity to type the responses would not be a problem). >> >> Asterisk has a fax service, so I thought I could use that. But the Asterisk >> fax sending service requires TIFF in a directory >> and receiving service puts a TIFF file in a directory. >> >> The charity operates in a Windows environment. To the problem is: how does >> a person (probably a volunteer) >> on a Windows machine put a TIFF file into a directory on an OpenBSD, and in >> addition send the information >> as to where send the fax and get back a status on success or failure of >> sending a fax. >> >> I don't think receiving the fax will be that much of a problem; it should >> be easy to take the fax out the directory >> and send it as an email to a group mailbox. >> >> What I don't have is a good to solution for is how the person sitting at the >> Windows machine is to send a fax. >> There are some commercial solutions for Linux, but I have no idea if they >> operate OpenBSD. >> The commercial solutions are generally of the format that an email gets >> sent and fax is extracted from the text of the message. >> >> I would like to know if anyone has done something similar or any good >> suggestions on what I should do to >> get faxing to work >> > > I haven't had a need for FAX yet, but maybe give hylafax together with > iaxmodem a try. > Both are in ports. > Or maybe read up here: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+fax > > cheers, > Sebastian > -- André -- There are no problems, just issues and tickets.
Re: faxing
Andres Genovez [andresgeno...@gmail.com] wrote: > I think this is a clean solution, putting an ATA Works fine even for POS > Machines (Credit Cards) that require a land line. > Only when you have a damn good connection :)
Re: faxing
Peter Fraser [p...@thinkage.ca] wrote: > I believe I am trying to interface into a T38 gateway which is supported by > my SIP supplier. > I expect but don't know, that if I don't uses T38 my Sip supplier will send > the call on a SIP > call to any other client which will not recognize it as FAX. > > > -Original Message- > From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf Of > Mikkel C. Simonsen > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 1:47 PM > To: OpenBSD misc > Subject: Re: faxing > > Peter Fraser wrote: > > I would like to know if anyone has done something similar or any good > > suggestions on what I should do to get faxing to work > > Connect the existing fax to a Linksys PAP2 (or whatever the current model is > called), use the g711 codec, setup the PAP2 correctly, and faxing will work > great. No need for a separate phone line anymore. > Newer ATAs like the Linksys SPA2102 (now discontinued), Cisco SPA122 (replacement), Obihai OBi302, all support T.38. The SPA122 is simply not reliable with anything less than the newest 1.3.1(003) firmware. The Obihai is a great box but I'd recommend it mainly for a service provider or someone who is already familiar with VoIP. If you are an SP, they have a great "Zero touch" provisioning option where they can hit your provisioning server (HTTP or HTTPS) out-of-the-box and you buy direct from them. Stuart Henderson [s...@spacehopper.org] wrote: > > This depends on latency and jitter to your SIP provider. > FAX is very sensitive to this. That's what T.38 is supposed to help with. Translates all the fax modem tones to HDLC frames which then get transported over the IP network. If you have a full duplex Internet link with low load, you can do G.711 based faxing and have a decent success rate. Otherwise, T.38 can handle the more typical situation.
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On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2013-04-22, Richard Toohey wrote: > > On 04/23/13 05:30, Peter Fraser wrote: > >> [cut] > >> > >> The charity operates in a Windows environment. To the problem is: how > does a person (probably a volunteer) > >> on a Windows machine put a TIFF file into a directory on an OpenBSD, > and in addition send the information > >> as to where send the fax and get back a status on success or failure of > sending a fax. > >> > >> [cut] > > Sounds like a job for Samba - at least the putting a TIFF file from > > Windows onto an OpenBSD directory. > > > > > > Or you could use something like fdm to process a mailbox, taking TIFF > attachments and moving them to the spool directory. > > +1 Always listen to Stuart ! -- - () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\
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On 2013-04-22, Mikkel C. Simonsen wrote: > Peter Fraser wrote: >> I would like to know if anyone has done something similar or any good >> suggestions on what I should do to >> get faxing to work > > Connect the existing fax to a Linksys PAP2 (or whatever the current > model is called), use the g711 codec, setup the PAP2 correctly, and > faxing will work great. No need for a separate phone line anymore. > > Best regards, > > Mikkel C. Simonsen > > This depends on latency and jitter to your SIP provider. FAX is very sensitive to this.
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On 2013-04-22, Richard Toohey wrote: > On 04/23/13 05:30, Peter Fraser wrote: >> [cut] >> >> The charity operates in a Windows environment. To the problem is: how does >> a person (probably a volunteer) >> on a Windows machine put a TIFF file into a directory on an OpenBSD, and >> in addition send the information >> as to where send the fax and get back a status on success or failure of >> sending a fax. >> >> [cut] > Sounds like a job for Samba - at least the putting a TIFF file from > Windows onto an OpenBSD directory. > > Or you could use something like fdm to process a mailbox, taking TIFF attachments and moving them to the spool directory.
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2013/4/22 Corey > On 04/22/13 12:30, Peter Fraser wrote: > >> Several years ago I put an OpenBSD system in as a firewall and mail >> server at a small charity that I volunteer at (kwaccessablility.ca) >> that fixed nearly all the problems that they had with viruses, spam etc. >> >> Last year I talked them in to switching to VOIP (on the OpenBSD server >> using Asterisk). Their phone costs dropped from over $250 >> per month to less than $30 per month (I used the service from >> unlimitel.ca). The change is costs per month made up for the costs >> of the new telephone equipment within the year. >> >> Nearly all their communication that was done by fax is now done by email, >> except for one organization. That organization which is >> run by the city supplies transportation for physically handicapped. That >> organization is insisting on faxes. They will not take email. >> The charity currently has an analog fax just for the purpose of arranging >> transportation, and that line is costing over $60 per month. >> >> I looked at email to fax services, but I believe those queue the faxes up >> and send them as time is available. The charity and >> the transportation organization need immediate sending and receiving. >> They carry out a conversation with hand written >> notes (requiring the charity to type the responses would not be a >> problem). >> >> Asterisk has a fax service, so I thought I could use that. But the >> Asterisk fax sending service requires TIFF in a directory >> and receiving service puts a TIFF file in a directory. >> >> The charity operates in a Windows environment. To the problem is: how >> does a person (probably a volunteer) >> on a Windows machine put a TIFF file into a directory on an OpenBSD, >> and in addition send the information >> as to where send the fax and get back a status on success or failure of >> sending a fax. >> >> I don't think receiving the fax will be that much of a problem; it >> should be easy to take the fax out the directory >> and send it as an email to a group mailbox. >> >> What I don't have is a good to solution for is how the person sitting at >> the Windows machine is to send a fax. >> There are some commercial solutions for Linux, but I have no idea if >> they operate OpenBSD. >> The commercial solutions are generally of the format that an email gets >> sent and fax is extracted from the text of the message. >> >> I would like to know if anyone has done something similar or any good >> suggestions on what I should do to >> get faxing to work >> >> Have you tried connecting your analog fax machine to an ATA (analog > telephone adapter) and then to your Asterisk box? It may not be what you > are looking for, but my fax machine works fine over my VoIP (Voipo is the > provider). I'm not using Asterisk, but if it's all SIP I wouldn't think > that would matter. > > Corey > > I think this is a clean solution, putting an ATA Works fine even for POS Machines (Credit Cards) that require a land line. -- Atentamente Andrés Genovez Tobar / DTIT Tel: 842388 ext 177 Perfil profesional http://lnkd.in/gcdhJE
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On 04/22/13 12:30, Peter Fraser wrote: Several years ago I put an OpenBSD system in as a firewall and mail server at a small charity that I volunteer at (kwaccessablility.ca) that fixed nearly all the problems that they had with viruses, spam etc. Last year I talked them in to switching to VOIP (on the OpenBSD server using Asterisk). Their phone costs dropped from over $250 per month to less than $30 per month (I used the service from unlimitel.ca). The change is costs per month made up for the costs of the new telephone equipment within the year. Nearly all their communication that was done by fax is now done by email, except for one organization. That organization which is run by the city supplies transportation for physically handicapped. That organization is insisting on faxes. They will not take email. The charity currently has an analog fax just for the purpose of arranging transportation, and that line is costing over $60 per month. I looked at email to fax services, but I believe those queue the faxes up and send them as time is available. The charity and the transportation organization need immediate sending and receiving. They carry out a conversation with hand written notes (requiring the charity to type the responses would not be a problem). Asterisk has a fax service, so I thought I could use that. But the Asterisk fax sending service requires TIFF in a directory and receiving service puts a TIFF file in a directory. The charity operates in a Windows environment. To the problem is: how does a person (probably a volunteer) on a Windows machine put a TIFF file into a directory on an OpenBSD, and in addition send the information as to where send the fax and get back a status on success or failure of sending a fax. I don't think receiving the fax will be that much of a problem; it should be easy to take the fax out the directory and send it as an email to a group mailbox. What I don't have is a good to solution for is how the person sitting at the Windows machine is to send a fax. There are some commercial solutions for Linux, but I have no idea if they operate OpenBSD. The commercial solutions are generally of the format that an email gets sent and fax is extracted from the text of the message. I would like to know if anyone has done something similar or any good suggestions on what I should do to get faxing to work Have you tried connecting your analog fax machine to an ATA (analog telephone adapter) and then to your Asterisk box? It may not be what you are looking for, but my fax machine works fine over my VoIP (Voipo is the provider). I'm not using Asterisk, but if it's all SIP I wouldn't think that would matter. Corey
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On 04/23/13 05:30, Peter Fraser wrote: [cut] The charity operates in a Windows environment. To the problem is: how does a person (probably a volunteer) on a Windows machine put a TIFF file into a directory on an OpenBSD, and in addition send the information as to where send the fax and get back a status on success or failure of sending a fax. [cut] Sounds like a job for Samba - at least the putting a TIFF file from Windows onto an OpenBSD directory.
Re: faxing
I believe I am trying to interface into a T38 gateway which is supported by my SIP supplier. I expect but don't know, that if I don't uses T38 my Sip supplier will send the call on a SIP call to any other client which will not recognize it as FAX. -Original Message- From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf Of Mikkel C. Simonsen Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 1:47 PM To: OpenBSD misc Subject: Re: faxing Peter Fraser wrote: > I would like to know if anyone has done something similar or any good > suggestions on what I should do to get faxing to work Connect the existing fax to a Linksys PAP2 (or whatever the current model is called), use the g711 codec, setup the PAP2 correctly, and faxing will work great. No need for a separate phone line anymore. Best regards, Mikkel C. Simonsen
Re: faxing
Peter Fraser wrote: I would like to know if anyone has done something similar or any good suggestions on what I should do to get faxing to work Connect the existing fax to a Linksys PAP2 (or whatever the current model is called), use the g711 codec, setup the PAP2 correctly, and faxing will work great. No need for a separate phone line anymore. Best regards, Mikkel C. Simonsen
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On Monday, April 22, 2013 19:30 CEST, Peter Fraser wrote: > Several years ago I put an OpenBSD system in as a firewall and mail server at > a small charity that I volunteer at (kwaccessablility.ca) > that fixed nearly all the problems that they had with viruses, spam etc. > > Last year I talked them in to switching to VOIP (on the OpenBSD server using > Asterisk). Their phone costs dropped from over $250 > per month to less than $30 per month (I used the service from unlimitel.ca). > The change is costs per month made up for the costs > of the new telephone equipment within the year. > > Nearly all their communication that was done by fax is now done by email, > except for one organization. That organization which is > run by the city supplies transportation for physically handicapped. That > organization is insisting on faxes. They will not take email. > The charity currently has an analog fax just for the purpose of arranging > transportation, and that line is costing over $60 per month. > > I looked at email to fax services, but I believe those queue the faxes up and > send them as time is available. The charity and > the transportation organization need immediate sending and receiving. They > carry out a conversation with hand written > notes (requiring the charity to type the responses would not be a problem). > > Asterisk has a fax service, so I thought I could use that. But the Asterisk > fax sending service requires TIFF in a directory > and receiving service puts a TIFF file in a directory. > > The charity operates in a Windows environment. To the problem is: how does a > person (probably a volunteer) > on a Windows machine put a TIFF file into a directory on an OpenBSD, and in > addition send the information > as to where send the fax and get back a status on success or failure of > sending a fax. > > I don't think receiving the fax will be that much of a problem; it should be > easy to take the fax out the directory > and send it as an email to a group mailbox. > > What I don't have is a good to solution for is how the person sitting at the > Windows machine is to send a fax. > There are some commercial solutions for Linux, but I have no idea if they > operate OpenBSD. > The commercial solutions are generally of the format that an email gets sent > and fax is extracted from the text of the message. > > I would like to know if anyone has done something similar or any good > suggestions on what I should do to > get faxing to work > I haven't had a need for FAX yet, but maybe give hylafax together with iaxmodem a try. Both are in ports. Or maybe read up here: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+fax cheers, Sebastian
faxing
Several years ago I put an OpenBSD system in as a firewall and mail server at a small charity that I volunteer at (kwaccessablility.ca) that fixed nearly all the problems that they had with viruses, spam etc. Last year I talked them in to switching to VOIP (on the OpenBSD server using Asterisk). Their phone costs dropped from over $250 per month to less than $30 per month (I used the service from unlimitel.ca). The change is costs per month made up for the costs of the new telephone equipment within the year. Nearly all their communication that was done by fax is now done by email, except for one organization. That organization which is run by the city supplies transportation for physically handicapped. That organization is insisting on faxes. They will not take email. The charity currently has an analog fax just for the purpose of arranging transportation, and that line is costing over $60 per month. I looked at email to fax services, but I believe those queue the faxes up and send them as time is available. The charity and the transportation organization need immediate sending and receiving. They carry out a conversation with hand written notes (requiring the charity to type the responses would not be a problem). Asterisk has a fax service, so I thought I could use that. But the Asterisk fax sending service requires TIFF in a directory and receiving service puts a TIFF file in a directory. The charity operates in a Windows environment. To the problem is: how does a person (probably a volunteer) on a Windows machine put a TIFF file into a directory on an OpenBSD, and in addition send the information as to where send the fax and get back a status on success or failure of sending a fax. I don't think receiving the fax will be that much of a problem; it should be easy to take the fax out the directory and send it as an email to a group mailbox. What I don't have is a good to solution for is how the person sitting at the Windows machine is to send a fax. There are some commercial solutions for Linux, but I have no idea if they operate OpenBSD. The commercial solutions are generally of the format that an email gets sent and fax is extracted from the text of the message. I would like to know if anyone has done something similar or any good suggestions on what I should do to get faxing to work
